PuNk^BoY''s Threat

[Hope]

Let me begin with something I sent to Ali Sina a while ago:

Assalam wa alaikum wa rahma tullahi wa barakatih,
> >
> > This greeting has a beautiful meaning. May
gods
> > please and blessings be upon you. Our beloved
> > prophet Muhammad (SWS) taught us this greeting.
> > Whenever we meet a Muslim I say this greeting and
he
> > replies Wa alaikum assalam, which means may god's

> > peace and blessings be upon you. How would a
rapist,
> > liar, looter, assassin, and a man of all your
other
> > accusations deliver such a beautiful message? when

> > my beloved prophet first came with his message
> > people like you made the same accusations. They
> > called him a liar, poet, and a mad man. God
himself
> > gave these people a challenge just as you have
given
> > me a challenge. God asked these people if heyr
could
> > come up with a single verse that is equal to the
> > unparalleled beauty of Quranic Arabic. No one
could
> > do it.
> >
> > Was Muhammad mentally disturbed? Did he have
> > hallucinations? Did he try to commit suicide. He
did
> > in fact threaten to fall off a mountain for he was

> > ready to serve his lord and God had not answered
> > yet. My beloved prophet used to go up to the
> > mountains around Mecca to meditate. On one such
day
> > he suddenly felt a tremendous squeezing. He felt
as
> > if his ribs were being broken! then suddenly the
> > pain stopped and he heard a voice. " Read," said
the
> > voice. Muhammad replied " I cannot read!" The
Angel
> > said again " read, Read in the name of thy lord
that
> > created you from a clot of blood," ( I am not
quite
> > sure about the exact wording but if you want it I
> > can give it to you). Then beautiful Arabic verses
> > flowed from the Angels mind. I have answered your
> > questions about seeing hallucinations and suicide.

> > Only mentally ill people have hallucinations and
if
> > Muhammad (SWS) was mentally ill how could the
Quran
> > which is unmatched in its beauty still today have
> > come from such a man?
> > About Muhammad having suffered from
depression
> > I can tell you that at times he was indeed sad.
Once
> > one of the companions of the prophet saw the
prophet
> > crying so he asked the daughter of the prophet to
go
> > ask the prophet why. The prophet told his daughter

> > that he was crying because god had told him that
> > some Muslims would burn in hell for their bad
deeds.
> > So yes, Muhammad (SWS) was at times depressed but
> > for reasons that would bring tears to our own
eyes.
> >
> > You have written that my beloved prophet is a

> > looter. To answer this question I tell you that
yes
> > he did indeed steal the goods of a Meccan caravan.

> > Before the Muslims moved to Medinah the Meccans
> > looted their homes, stole their good and their
> > crops. When my beloved prophet learned about a
> > caravan loaded with the stolen belongings of the
> > Muslims he and his followers attacked the caravan
> > and took back their belongings. So yes, the
prophet
> > Muhammad did indeed loot but you tell if you would

> > have done the same thing.
> >
> > The last questions I will answer is " Was the prophet Muhammad (SWS) a mass
> > murderer?" To answer this questions I will take
you
> > back over 1400 years. During a major battle of the

> > struggle between the Meccans and the Muslims, over

> > ten thousands non-muslims marched to Medinah ( the

> > city of the prophet). The Muslims had previously
> > created the Constitution of Medinah in which all
the
> > tribes of Medinah agreed to defend Medinah if it
was
> > attacked. When the Meccans attacked one of the
> > Jewish tribes secretly helped the Meccans. The
> > battle ended with the Meccans leaving after a long

> > siege and with the Meccans the Prophet turned his
> > attention towards that Jewish tribe which betrayed

> > the people of Medinah. He Left the decision up to
a
> > man of Medinah. That man was injured by the battle

> > and he told the prophet that every man of the
tribe
> > should be killed. The prophet agreed and the
> > traitorous tribesmen were killed. Yet this does
not
> > go to show that my beloved prophet was
anti-Semitic.
> > The other Jewish tribes of Medinah continued to
live
> > in peace with Medinah. So yes, Muhammad did order
> > the killing of the traitorous tribesmen.
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I am just a normal Muslims trying to react to Ali Sina's website.

[Yohan]

[SherKhan]

Dear Hope,

[Hope]

[piggy]

This hadith provides evidence of how the fake prophet, Mohammed makes excuses for INVENTING lies.

Would a true prophet of God condone lying in ANY form?

How can this faker, Mohammed be believed?

He re-invents the meaning of lying.

Sahih al-Bukari
كتاب الصلح (The Book of Peacemaking)

No. 2519 - Narrated Um Kulthum bint Uqba:

That she heard Allah's Apostle saying, "He who makes peace between the people by INVENTING good information or saying good things, is not a liar."

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This faker, Mohammed even has the audacity to fore-tell what Allah WILL SAY!

Have you seen the posts where clear historical evidence shows Mohammed was "the greatest liar against Allah"?

This thread: http://www.faithfreedom.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=6780&highlight=liar#6780

Fortune-telling of the prophet, thus by his and Allah's standards, the "greatest liar against Allah".

Sahih al-Bukari
كتاب المناقب (The Book of the Virtues of the Prophet and His Companions)
No. 3364 - Narrated Abu Huraira:

The Prophet said, "The Hour will not be established till there is a war between two groups among whom there will be a great number of casualties, though the claims (or religion) of both of them will be one and the same. And the Hour will not be established till there appear about thirty liars, all of whom will be claiming to be the messengers of Allah. "

Now this?

Sahih Muslim

‏الإيمان (The Book of Faith)
No. 337

It is narrated on the authority of Masruq that he said: I was resting at (the house of) 'A'isha that she said: O Abu 'A'isha (kunya of Masruq), there are three things, and he who affirmed even one of them fabricated the greatest lie against Allah.

I asked that they were.

She said: He who presumes that he would inform about what was going to happen tomorrow fabricates the greatest lie against Allaah. And Allaah says" Say thou (Muhammad): None in the heavens and the earth knoweth the unseen save Allaah" (al-Qur'an, xxvii 65).

Sahih al-Bukari

كتاب الطب (The Book of Medicine)
No. 5389 - Narrated 'Aisha:
Some people asked Allah's Apostle about the fore-tellers He said. ' They are nothing" They said, 'O Allah's Apostle! Sometimes they tell us of a thing which turns out to be true." Allah's Apostle said, "A Jinn snatches that true word and pours it Into the ear of his friend (the fore-teller) (as one puts something into a bottle) The foreteller then mixes with that word one hundred lies."

Sahih al-Bukari
كتاب التفسير (The Book of Exegesis of the Quraan)
No. 4367 - Narrated Ibn Umar:

Allah's Apostle said, "The keys of Unseen are five which none knows but Allah: None knows what will happen tomorrow but Allah; no one knows what is in the wombs (a male child or a female) but Allah; no one knows when it will rain but Allah; none knows at what place one will die; none knows when the Hour will be established but Allah". (See The Quran 31:34.")

Then we have.................

Sahih al-Bukari

اب التفسير (The Book of Exegesis of the Quraan)
No. 4155 - Narrated Anas:
[truncated]

Then he added "As for the first portent of the Hour, it will be a fire that will collect the people from the East to West. And as for the first meal of the people of Paradise, it will be the caudite (i.e. extra) lobe of the fish liver.

And if a man's discharge proceeded that of the woman, then the child resembles the father, and if the woman's discharge proceeded that of the man, then the child resembles the mother."

Sahih al-Bukari
كتاب التفسير (The Book of Exegesis of the Quraan)
No. 4253 - Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri:

During the lifetime of the Prophet some people said, : O Allah's Apostle! Shall we see our Lord on the Day of Resurrection?" The Prophet said, "Yes; do you have any difficulty in seeing the sun at midday when it is bright and there is no cloud in the sky?" They replied, "No." He said, "Do you have any difficulty in seeing the moon on a full moon night when it is bright and there is no cloud in the sky?" They replied, "No." The Prophet said, "(Similarly) you will have no difficulty in seeing Allah on the Day of Resurrection as you have no difficulty in seeing either of them. On the Day of Resurrection, a call-maker will announce, "Let every nation follow that which they used to worship." Then none of those who used to worship anything other than Allah like idols and other deities but will fall in Hell (Fire), till there will remain none but those who used to worship Allah, both those who were obedient (i.e. good) and those who were disobedient (i.e. bad) and the remaining party of the people of the Scripture. Then the Jews will be called upon and it will be said to them, 'Who do you use to worship?' They will say, 'We used to worship Ezra, the son of Allah.' It will be said to them, 'You are liars, for Allah has never taken anyone as a wife or a son. What do you want now?' They will say, 'O our Lord! We are thirsty, so give us something to drink.' They will be directed and addressed thus, 'Will you drink,' whereupon they will be gathered unto Hell (Fire) which will look like a mirage whose different sides will be destroying each other. Then they will fall into the Fire. Afterwards the Christians will be called upon and it will be said to them, 'Who do you use to worship?' They will say, 'We used to worship Jesus, the son of Allah.' It will be said to them, 'You are liars, for Allah has never taken anyone as a wife or a son,' Then it will be said to them, 'What do you want?' They will say what the former people have said. Then, when there remain (in the gathering) none but those who used to worship Allah (Alone, the real Lord of the Worlds) whether they were obedient or disobedient. Then (Allah) the Lord of the worlds will come to them in a shape nearest to the picture they had in their minds about Him. It will be said, 'What are you waiting for?' Every nation have followed what they used to worship.' They will reply, 'We left the people in the world when we were in great need of them and we did not take them as friends. Now we are waiting for our Lord Whom we used to worship.' Allah will say, 'I am your Lord.' They will say twice or thrice, 'We do not worship any besides Allah.' "

Sahih Muslim

‏الإيمان (The Book of Faith)
No. 378

This hadeeth comes under the following chapter:
THE LOWEST OF THE RANKS IN PARADISE

Abu Huraira reported: Meat was one day brought to the Messenger of Allaah (sallAllaahu alayhi wa sallam) and a foreleg was offered to him, a part which he liked. He sliced with his teeth a piece out of it and said: I shall be the leader of mankind on the Day of Resurrection. Do you know why? Allaah would gather in one plain the earlier and the later (of the human race) on the Day of Resurrection. Then the voice of the proclaimer would be heard by all of them and the eyesight would penetrate through all of them and the sun would come near.

People would then experience a degree of anguish, anxiety and agony which they shall not be able to bear and they shall not be able to stand. Some people would say to the others: Don't you see in which trouble you are? Don't you see what (misfortune) has overtaken you? Why don't you find one who should intercede for you with your Lord? Some would say to the others: Go to Adam. And they would go to Adam and say: O Adam, thou art the father of mankind. Allaah created thee by His own Hand and breathed in thee of His spirit and ordered the angels to prostrate before thee. Intercede for us with thy Lord Don't you see in what (trouble) we are? Don't you see what (misfortune) has overtaken us? Adam would say: Verily, my Lord is angry, to an extent to which He had never been angry before nor would He be angry afterward. Verily, He forbade me (to go near) that tree and I disobeyed Him. I am concerned with my own self. Go to someone else; go to Noah. They would come to Noah and would say: O Noah, thou art the first of the Messengers (sent) on the earth (after Adam), and Allaah named thee as a" Grateful Servant," intercede for us with thy Lord. Don't you see in what (trouble) we are? Don't you see what (misfortune) has overtaken us? He would say: Verily, my Lord is angry today as He had never been angry before, and would never be angry afterwards. There had emanated a curse from me with which I cursed my people. I am concerned with only myself, I am concerned only with myself; you better go to Ibrahim (sallAllaahu alayhi wa sallam). They would go to Ibrahim and say: Thou art the Prophet of Allaah and His Friend amongst the inhabitants of the earth; intercede for us with thy Lord. Don't you see in which (trouble) we are? Don't you see what (misfortune) has overtaken us? Ibrahim would say to them: Verily, my Lord is today angry as He had never been angry before and would never be angry afterwards, and (Ibrahim) would mention his lies (and then say): I am concerned only with myself, I am concerned only with myself. You better go to someone else: go to Moses. They would come to Moses (sallAllaahu alayhi wa sallam) and say: O Moses, thou art Allaah's messenger, Allaah blessed thee with His messengership and His conversation amongst people. Intercede for us with thy Lord. Don't you see in what (trouble) we are? Don't you see what (misfortune) has overtaken us? Moses (sallAllaahu alayhi wa sallam) would say to them: Verily. my Lord is angry as He had never been angry before and would never be angry afterwards. I, in fact, killed a person whom I had not been ordered to kill. I am concerned with myself, I am concerned with myself. You better go to Jesus (sallAllaahu alayhi wa sallam). They would come to Jesus and would say: O Jesus, thou art the messenger of Allaah and thou conversed with people in the cradle, (thou art) His Word which I-Ie sent down upon Mary. and (thou art) the Spirit from Him; so intercede for us with thy Lord. Don't you see (the trouble) in which we are? Don't you see (the misfortune) that has overtaken us? Jesus (sallAllaahu alayhi wa sallam) would say: Verily, my Lord is angry today as He had never been angry before or would ever be angry afterwards. He mentioned no sin of his. (He simply said: ) I am concerned with myself, I am concerned with myself; you go to someone else: better go to Muhammad (sallAllaahu alayhi wa sallam).
They would come to me and say: O Mahammad, thou art the messenger of Allaah and the last of the Prophets. Allaah has pardoned thee all thy previous and later sins. Intercede for us with thy Lord; don't you see in which (trouble) we are? Don't you see what (misfortune) has overtaken us? I shall then set off and come below the Throne and fall down prostrate before my Lord; then Allaah would reveal to me and inspire me with some of His Praises and Glorifications which He had not revealed to anyone before me. He would then say: Muhammad, raise thy head; ask and it would be granted; intercede and intercession would be accepted I would then raise my head and say: O my Lord, my people, my people. It would be said: O Muhammad, bring in by the right gate of Paradise those of your people who would have no account to render. They would share with the people some other door besides this door. The Prophet then said: By Him in Whose Hand is the life of Muhammad, verify the distance between two door leaves of the Paradise is as great as between Mecca and Hajar, or as between Mecca and Busra.

So BOTH Mohammed and his moon-god, Allah are deliberate deceivers.

There is more evidence, look in the ahadith.

Here:
http://www.salafipublications.com/sps/sbk/

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So far it has been shown that Mohammed was a person who did not keep his oath and said it was right to break ones oaths and who also believed and said it is right to lie and deceive and claims that his god (Allah) is also a deceiver.


Let's see what else this liar would have us to teach the children.

[piggy]

Sahih al_Bukari

أبواب الخمس (The Book of One-Fifth of War Booty)
No. 2919 - Narrated Zahdam:

Once we were in the house of Abu Musa who presented a meal containing cooked chicken. A man from the tribe of Bani Taim Allah with red complexion as if he were from the Byzantine war prisoners, was present. Abu Musa invited him to share the meal but he (apologised) saying. "I saw chickens eating dirty things and so I have had a strong aversion to eating them, and have taken an oath that I will not eat chickens." Abu Musa said, "Come along, I will tell you about this matter (i.e. how to cancel one's oath ). I went to the Prophet in the company of a group of Al-Ashariyin, asked him to provide us with means of conveyance. He said, 'By Allah, I will not provide you with any means of conveyance and I have nothing to make you ride on.' Then some camels as booty were brought to Allah's Apostle and he asked for us saying. 'Where are the group of Al-Ash'ariyun?' Then he ordered that we should be given five camels with white humps. When we set out we said, 'What have we done? We will never be blessed (with what we have been given).' So, we returned to the Prophet and said, 'We asked you to provide us with means of conveyance, but you took an oath that you would not provide us with any means of conveyance. Did you forget (your oath when you gave us the camels)? He replied. 'I have not provided you with means of conveyance, but Allah has provided you with it, and by Allah, Allah willing, if ever I take an oath to do something, and later on I find that it is more beneficial to do something different, I will do the thing which is better, and give expiation for my oath."


كتاب المغازي (The Book of Military Expeditions)
No. 4067 - Narrated Zahdam:

When Abu Musa arrived (at Kufa as a governor) he honored this family of Jarm (by paying them a visit). I was sitting near to him, and he was eating chicken as his lunch, and there was a man sitting amongst the people. Abu Musa invited the man to the lunch, but the latter said, "I saw chickens (eating something (dirty) so I consider them unclean." Abu Musa said, "Come on! I saw the Prophet eating it (i.e. chicken)." The man said "I have taken an oath that I will not ea (chicken)" Abu Musa said." Come on! I will tell you about your oath. We, a group of Al-Ash'ariyin people went to the Prophet and asked him to give us something to ride, but the Prophet refused. Then we asked him for the second time to give us something to ride, but the Prophet took an oath that he would not give us anything to ride. After a while, some camels of booty were brought to the Prophet and he ordered that five camels be given to us. When we took those camels we said, "We have made the Prophet forget his oath, and we will not be successful after that." So I went to the Prophet and said, "O Allah' Apostle ! You took an oath that you would not give us anything to ride, but you have given us." He said, "Yes, for if I take an oath and later I see a better solution than that, I act on the later (and gave the expiation of that oaths"

[piggy]

The fake prophet had his followers afraid to speak all the truth about him with fear of death if they did.

Sahih al-Bukari
كتاب العلم (The Book of Knowledge)

No. 122 - Narrated Abu Huraira:

I have memorized two kinds of knowledge from Allah's Apostle . I have propagated one of them to you and if I propagated the second, then my pharynx (throat) would be cut (i.e. killed).

[piggy]

Dear Hope,

Here is what your holy, kind, merciful, gentle "prophet" used to do.

Sahih al-Bukari
كتاب (The Book of Penalty of Hunting While on Pilgrimage)

No. 1734 - Narrated Anas bin Malik:

Allah's Apostle entered Mecca in the year of its Conquest wearing an Arabian helmet on his head and when the Prophet took it off, a person came and said, "Ibn Khatal is holding the covering of the Ka'ba (taking refuge in the Ka'ba)." The Prophet said, "kill him."

[piggy]

Hope,
More assassinations ordered by the thug, ganster, fake prophet.

Now how could anyone "harm Allah"?

Do you really think Mohammed was being truthful when he said that Allah had been "harmed"?

Sahih al-Bukari
كتاب الرهن (The Book of Mortgaging)

No. 2349 - Narrated Jabir bin 'Abdullah:

Allah's Apostle said, "Who would kill Ka'b bin Al-Ashraf as he has harmed Allah and His Apostle ?" Muhammad bin Maslama (got up and) said, "I will kill him." So, Muhammad bin Maslama went to Ka'b and said, "I want a loan of one or two Wasqs of food grains." Ka'b said, "Mortgage your women to me." Muhammad bin Maslama said, "How can we mortgage our women, and you are the most handsome among the Arabs?" He said, "Then mortgage your sons to me." Muhammad said, "How can we mortgage our sons, as the people will abuse them for being mortgaged for one or two Wasqs of food grains? It is shameful for us. But we will mortgage our arms to you." So, Muhammad bin Maslama promised him that he would come to him next time. They (Muhammad bin Maslama and his companions came to him as promised and murdered him. Then they went to the Prophet and told him about it.

Sounds like how a Mafia gang boss would behave, don't you think so?

Mohammed, the "God Father"......holy-man?...........pfffffft!

[yeezevee]

piggy you are drowning our dear hope with volumes of hadith., Hope forget Hadith and forget discussing Q'uran ., Focus on your education., Also think a bit what you wriet such as

[piggy]

Yes Yeezevee, it is a barrage of posts intended to educate Hope.

Hope, you have been repeatedly and consistently asking for ayats and hadith to be put to you for your attention and commentary, so when you have the time I would be interested to see your "reaction" to the flood of posts that I have placed here.

No rush on your part is expected, but seeing as you initiated this thread and it may be a thread where you will seek to participate in more than others, I feel it is appropriate that you are made aware of the hadith that I have posted herein.

These hadith are sourced from authorative and authenticated islamic sources.

Take your time and when you get the opportunity please respond to what I have posted for your attention.

[SaveTheWorld]

PLEASE, please, please, do not spend you or your family's hard earned money on their writings, or whatever it is that they will wish to sell you. I think that you should stick with the "Islamic scholars" from middle eastern backgrounds if you are going to spend dollars.

[Hope]

I just saw your replies and I am eager to get to them. Bt one at a time. I will discuss yeezavee's topic first. The life of the prophet muhammad. But soon very soon. My crazed teachers have lost the idea that ourlives do not revolve on homework!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I am just a normal Muslims trying to react to Ali Sina's website.