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wachamalit
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PRACTICALLY SPEAKING, when was the last time we had a balanced diet?Not for most people. So to be safe, go outdoors for some sunshine every morning.
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michelezoe
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| If the diet is balanced there is no need for exposure to sunlight. |
Actually I don't think that is true. I will have to look, perhaps someone here can help me out, but if I remember correctly the vD in sunlight is non replaceable.
I have a dietican in the family, I have just emailed her, I will post her response. I myself am very curious. |
This is from my (fantastic) Hyperhealth program:
4 columns
Food Practical Quantity Vitamin D Content in IU % of Daily Value
(Daily Value = 400 IU)
Cod Liver Oil 1 Tablespoon 1,360 IU 340%
Salmon (cooked) 100 grams 360 IU 90%
Mackerel (cooked) 100 grams 345 IU 86%
Sardines
(canned in oil and drained) 100 grams 270 IU 67%
Eel (cooked) 100 grams 200 IU 50%
Milk (non-fat, reduced fat, or whole, fortified with additional Vitamin D) 1 Cup 98 IU 25%
Margarine (fortified with additional Vitamin D) 1 Tablespoon 60 IU 15%
Liver (beef, cooked) 100 grams 30 IU 8%
Egg (including yolk) 1 Whole Egg 25 IU 6%
In-Tele-Health © 2003 (from Hyperhealth CD-ROM)
Sorry for the formatting, this program does not cut and paste very well, so each line comes in 2 lines. when text is a bit long.
I advise though against maragarine, a processed fat which contains most often canola oil (huile de colza pour les francais), which leads to retinpathy and blindness. 
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VirtualEye
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| Posted: Sun May 28, 2006 7:49 pm Post subject: Re: The sun and the hijab thread |
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I need the link to the thread that discussed how the sun creates Vitamin D (?) in the body when the sun rays contact the skin. The thread questioned how hijab prevents women of getting this much needed vitamin and how the lack of such vitamin affects the human body. I can't find it. Thanks. |
This is simply stupidest thing .
Women's are not restricted in their homes to use complete Hijjab as they should do including face and head.
Secondly, Its not obligatory to be naked to get sunshie to make vitamin D. Instaed in the hot countries nobody can even tolerate standing in sunshine. And in cold countries they might need that less, because there is already cloudy weather most of times. So they might not need that so badly. For instance, if the people from cold countries come to Asia then they feel hot even in winters.
VirtualEye.
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JoeJew
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| Women's are not restricted in their homes to use complete Hijjab as they should do including face and head. |
You idiot.  Unless they have a private garden where they can sit, they will not be exposed to sunlight inside their homes whether they wear a hijab or not.
The INDISPUTABLE facts are that Muslim women in the UK are having health problems due to them not getting sufficient sunlight. This especially affects women with a dark skin living in the UK, since they already have a built in "sun-block" that evolved to help them survive living in very sunny climates.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/1154211.stm
This proves beyond doubt that Islamic laws could not be created by God, who also designed the human body. Why would God design the human body to need sunlight on its skin to make Vitamin D, and then create a law mandating that women cover themselves up so they dont get enough vitamin D?
Its totally illogical considering the Islamic laws are supposed to be for ALL mankind, not just people in sunny climates. 
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VirtualEye
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| Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 11:59 am Post subject: |
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| Women's are not restricted in their homes to use complete Hijjab as they should do including face and head. |
You idiot. Unless they have a private garden where they can sit, they will not be exposed to sunlight inside their homes whether they wear a hijab or not.
The INDISPUTABLE facts are that Muslim women in the UK are having health problems due to them not getting sufficient sunlight. This especially affects women with a dark skin living in the UK, since they already have a built in "sun-block" that evolved to help them survive living in very sunny climates.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/1154211.stm
This proves beyond doubt that Islamic laws could not be created by God, who also designed the human body. Why would God design the human body to need sunlight on its skin to make Vitamin D, and then create a law mandating that women cover themselves up so they dont get enough vitamin D?
Its totally illogical considering the Islamic laws are supposed to be for ALL mankind, not just people in sunny climates. |
I think in your country, people live in rat holes, that they cant get sunlight. While in my country every house has sunlight and its not essential to be naked to make vitamin D. Go ask the doctor first then come and eat back your vomit.
VE
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ixolite
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| While in my country every house has sunlight and its not essential to be naked to make vitamin D. Go ask the doctor first then come and eat back your vomit. |
Duh, window glas only lets UV-A rays through, not UV-B and UV-C. You need UV-B rays for the production of Vitamin D. 
How much skin you have to expose to get enough Vitamin D depends on your skin colour and the region where you live.
Go ask the doctor first and then come back.
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VirtualEye
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| Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 12:20 pm Post subject: |
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| BrownEye wrote: |
| While in my country every house has sunlight and its not essential to be naked to make vitamin D. Go ask the doctor first then come and eat back your vomit. |
Duh, window glas only lets UV-A rays through, not UV-B and UV-C. You need UV-B rays for the production of Vitamin D.
How much skin you have to expose to get enough Vitamin D depends on your skin colour and the region where you live.
Go ask the doctor first and then come back. |
That required quantity of Vitamin D is also varied. So dont need to be naked.
VE
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Anna Doe
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| Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 12:50 pm Post subject: black/dark burkas/hijab muslimas women |
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I think you don't understand the thread. The koran is said to be for everytime and everywhere.
But there are many problems, one of them being black/dark burkas/hijab muslimas women living in not sunny countries for example.
Why didn't allah thought about that? Because he didn't know about vitamin D!
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JoeJew
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| I think in your country, people live in rat holes, that they cant get sunlight. While in my country every house has sunlight and its not essential to be naked to make vitamin D. |
Like I said before you ignorant fool, Islam is supposedly for ALL of mankind, even people who live in rat holes, whatever thats supposed to mean.
And you dont have to be naked to get Vitamin D, which is not what I said, but you also cannot be totally covered up either everytime you go outside.
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| Go ask the doctor first then come and eat back your vomit |
Can you actually read you illiterate mongrel??? I posted a link REFERENCING WHAT DOCTORS SAID. I dont need to ask a doctor when the doctors have already given us the story.
Here let me quote from the article you are too afraid to even read.
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| An increase in the number of cases of the bone disease rickets may be partly due to strict Muslim dress codes, say doctors. |
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| Girls approaching puberty who are adhering to traditional dress are also at risk, say experts, as more vitamin D is needed during this growth spurt. |
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Dr Zulf Mughal, from St Mary's Hospital in Manchester, described an case in which a young girl had to have operations to correct both the bones in both legs.
"She has been left with scars on both her legs, which is not pleasant," he said. |
Rickets is an entirely preventable disease that results from a lack of Vitamin D, which comes from sun exposure. Do you get it?? Its not that they dont get even a drop of sunlight, its that they dont get ENOUGH sun exposure (from wearing the hijab) to make ENOUGH vitamin D to suit their bodies requirements.
The only vomit that exists is between your ears that serves as your brain, since all this info is so easy to research and to confirm.
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VirtualEye
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| Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 5:36 am Post subject: Re: black/dark burkas/hijab muslimas women |
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I think you don't understand the thread. The koran is said to be for everytime and everywhere.
But there are many problems, one of them being black/dark burkas/hijab muslimas women living in not sunny countries for example.
Why didn't allah thought about that? Because he didn't know about vitamin D!
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Then you may ask, why Allah made the sunshine more intense in Africa and very rare in UK. Did not UK people need the Vitamin D equally? Go fight with your creator.
Allah has creator men according to there whereabouts. People in the cold countries have more ammune system against the cold as compared to the people living in hot countries. So everyone is not same in getting Vitamin D and other vitamin. Some people need one vitamin and some need others. While you get vitamin D when you are laying in the sunshine in you home. While you may go fight with God why did not he give equal vitamin D in UK where there is rare sunshine so people are dying of lack of Vitamin D.
People living in UK have less floride in their water, so the companies there add floride to the tooth pastes richly as floride is good for teeth. But people living in other countries dont need that floride , instead there are some people in Pakistan who got their bones twisted and damaged due to the excess of floride in water.
So do get died of Vitamin D. You get it accoringly in you home also, So there is no need to be naked for vitamin D. Are you such motivated to get this vitamin, no matter somebody comes and rapes you after seeing your hot body? or if he does not rape you , then at least he will develop hot feelings about women body and he might f.ck someone else. So you think you are safe on the beach, but that man has done his anarchy work already, either by adulty or rape or handjob.
VE
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bugmenot_666
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| Virtualdouche. Nobody said anything about getting naked. Get your mind out of the gutter. And hijab is definately making women sick. Its a fact you cannot deny. |
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Radagast
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| Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 6:08 am Post subject: Re: black/dark burkas/hijab muslimas women |
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| Then you may ask, why Allah made the sunshine more intense in Africa and very rare in UK. Did not UK people need the Vitamin D equally? Go fight with your creator. |
Intensity of sunlight becomes irrelevant when one is completely covered up.
Furthermore, the higher intensity of sunlight is often partially offset by darker skin. The darker the skin, the less Vitamin D is produced by the skin. So, you may actually need more and not less exposure to get your Vitamin D daily requirement, depends on how much melanin you have in your skin. Melanin is a natural sun screen.
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| So do get died of Vitamin D. You get it accoringly in you home also, |
Only if you stand out in the sun and have the sun actually touch your skin. Is it a practice for Middle Eastern women to sun themselves in the privacy of their own homes? From statistical studies, it appears not.
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http://www.scidev.net/News/index.cfm?fuseaction=readNews&itemid=2679&language=1
Co-author John Adams of the Cedars-Sinai Medical Center, also in Los Angeles, told SciDev.Net that there have been no large-scale studies of the prevalence of vitamin D deficiency. However, smaller studies suggest the problem is widespread among poor populations throughout Africa, the Middle East and South Asia.
"A study in Tunisia found that nearly half the study population had vitamin D levels well below the threshold for D deficiency," said Adams. "Similar results were found on the Indian subcontinent." |
Talking about melanin, tunisia and northern hemispheres, it occurred to me that the VitD-burqha problem is worse in northern countries like the UK. I don't know why anybody would wear a burqha in these countries, especially someone with dark skin. You get the double whammy effect of a weaker sun and darker skin. Covering up completely become ridiculous. And your Allah apparently is unconcerned by this since his rules don't have any geographic limits.
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| So there is no need to be naked for vitamin D. |
No. But you won't get any in a burqha. That is why most women in the West don't go around naked. A nice business suit or casual gear will do just fine. How many of these people are naked?
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VirtualEye
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| Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 6:26 am Post subject: Re: black/dark burkas/hijab muslimas women |
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Burka is not obligatory, and nor its color to be black. Also women dont have to use burka in home, When they will stay at home home according to the encouraging of Islam, then they are free to take sunshine and vitamin D at homes.
While I think this vitimin D problem is the biggest problem of the world? and many people have died due to that, right?
Ve
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Radagast
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| Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 6:40 am Post subject: Re: black/dark burkas/hijab muslimas women |
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| VirtualEye wrote: |
| Burka is not obligatory, and nor its color to be black. |
The topic is not whether the burka is or isn't obligatory. That is another question.
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| Also women dont have to use burka in home, When they will stay at home home according to the encouraging of Islam, then they are free to take sunshine and vitamin D at homes. |
I don't think you appreciate the issue here. If according to all the research and news articles we see on the subject, women in middle eastern countries are developing vitamin D deficiency, then it is something that has to be addressed. Before that, we need to discuss it.
You might say ... "but oh, they can do this, or they can do that", the real problem remains that they are not doing any of those. That is why they are developing such problems for their health. I don't have to remind you that half the women in Tunisia have this problem. Clearly, they are not sunning themselves at home.
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| While I think this vitimin D problem is the biggest problem of the world? and many people have died due to that, right? |
Do you realise the implications of what you have written? Do we need to have a problem become the "biggest problem" in the world before we address it?
No. Concern for the health of people must be a holistic and comprehensive strategy. That is why in the West, medical intervention exists even for the most minute of complaints.
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Anna Doe
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| Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 3:56 pm Post subject: dark skin muslimas wearing veil in not sunny country |
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allah demands all women to wear veil.
allah is claimed to be omniscient (for VirtualEye, that means he should know everything, he is god, isn't it?).
Many reasons why allah didn't know that dark skin muslimas wearing veil in not sunny country will have health problem:
allah didn't know:
1) about vitamin d
2) islam will get in not sunny country
3) dark skin women will become muslimas
4) muslimas will be so much veiled
5) dark skin need more sun than light skin
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Conclusions:
allah is not omniscient
allah is not god
mohamed was fooled. By who??? 
One fact (already above in the thread but VirtualEye's eye is not working so well) :
People living in sunny country need more sun to get their quota of vitamin D while people living in not sunny country need less sun.
This is evolution 's logic, no need to while to allah, allah doesn't exist.
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