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yeezevee
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| Taqqiya Tactician : These great defenders of Islam are intellectually dishonest people. All of them. Masadi, sbwus, virtual High, ia786, XX all of them are dishonest people. Liars and decievers. |
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dear TT you are upset, you are angry. People who are trained/brain washed right from the day they are born making Mr. Mohammad as the man Bigger than anything in their life, including their mothers who gave them the life and thelove. it is hard to get over that RasoolAllah was actually Rascallollah. So that is life.
Now Ruby is upset because of you and she is flying four letter words.. lol..
with best wishes
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Taqqiya Tactician
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Hey Ruby,
I never mentioned your name. So calm down. Im not accusing you of anything now. Like I said, we will surely know from your posts in future. But rather than us knowing who Ruby is or what she believes in, I think it is more important that you are honest with yourself. Do everything only with your own conviction, thats what finally matters. It is your life and you alone must charter it. Who is TT or firesnake? We are just your cyber friends. Only you should be the boss of your own life.
As for muslim apostates, I was generalising. Of course there will always be exceptions. But typically, unlike what Ali says, the shock of being bombarded with opposing views should jolt you to reality. That initial shock of having your beliefs you hold dear shattered should do it, and typically no honest person would stick aroud and dishonestly try and defend Islam after the initial shock and doubt has set it.
Thats all I was trying to say.
I wish you well.
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yeezevee
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firesnake: Ruby, as a new apostate you should not speaking harsh word like fu*cking or bi*tch anymore.
........we are women and we should show our decency and politeness. because we are human, we are not living in the 7th century anymore |
Hi firesnake., is that a new rule for apostate that he/she can not speak words like fu*cking or bi*tch anymore?? lol.. you can give a bit of slack for Ruby....
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miss ruby
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firesnake: Ruby, as a new apostate you should not speaking harsh word like fu*cking or bi*tch anymore.
........we are women and we should show our decency and politeness. because we are human, we are not living in the 7th century anymore |
Hi firesnake., is that a new rule for apostate that he/she can not speak words like fu*cking or bi*tch anymore?? lol.. you can give a bit of slack for Ruby....
with best regards
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LOL Firesnake is now monitoring what I say and what I dont, thats censorship if ever I saw it. And btw firesnake, I wont use words like that if it bothers you, but when I get angry then I reserve the right to use colourful language as I see fit.
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Ali Sina
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Ali Sina
Tell me how many days does it take for a muslim who is ignorant about Islam, to know about Muhamad and his life andteachings? |
It actually could take years. Some people become like teflon. They can read everything and simply dismiss them and tell themselves "Allah knows best". They never use their brians and dismiss every doubt at once. But only one small thing, may scrach the teflon of denial and then everything falls apart. Then he will start doubting things that he had believed all his life.
Some people will never be enightened. Masadi is one example. I can say with near certaint that he will die in total ignorance. Others may awaken after a while. XXX could see the truth one day and so ia786. Eventually there is something that will make them come to their senses. But when it will happen, no one knows. It could be years. I can tell you this with certainty that over 50% of Muslims will leave Islam on their own and the other 50% will follow the rest because they are too stupid and too coward to be the leaders. They will only leave when they see Islam has fallen and they are being ridiculed by their friends who are now ex-Muslims.
I am a strong believer in ridicule. Muslims must be ridiculed.
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| Typically it should take no more than a week to read the essential articles from this site and come to the conclusion that Islam is a hoax. |
It actually could take more than weeks. In my case it took two years. Of course I did not know any of things now available in FFI. All this truth I found out later. I only had the Quran.
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Ali Sina
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| Did you read my article From Belief to Enlightenment? |
No I dont. Do I have to?
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Yes that is part of the final exam.
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ia786
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| I have given you sources that give hadith. |
Which hadith? Please show clearly reference to any original Islamic sources where any of your wild claims are corroborated.
I have shown you hadith that clearly state:
1. Muhammed said his father is in hell.
2. Amina, muhammed's mother is in hell and Muhammed is forbidden by Allah to even pray for her.
3. Abu Talib is in hell and Muhammed is forbidden by Allah to even pray for him.
The above statements are confirmed by Tabari and ibn Sa'd.
Now you throw a lot of verbiage and you are bringing in sources of 20th century mullahs who give no reference to any original hadith or historical source what so ever. So why do you lie that your source give reference to a hadith? So I ask again: Which hadith? What are the sources for prophets coming to meet Amina? Do you follow Muhammed or some "sunni scholar"? Sunni scholars cannot invent and put words in muhammed's mouth.
You reject the sunnah of muhammed. You are unable to squarely face the Sunnah of muhammed and are now creating angles helping pregnancy and dreams of prophets getting Amina out of Kufr. That is lame as lame can be. You reveal your islam to be a concoction of some silly fairy tales of angles, jinns, unseens, prophets talking in dreams, etc. etc. You are welcome to your personal beliefs.
You came here as the "lion of allah" and lied and then underwent a change in persona to ia786 and disawoved all words of lion of allah and the hatred that was spewed under that avatar. ia786 presents a more "reasonable" face so the kaffirs can see that muslims can be peaceful and can live among them peacefully. Why start lying again and claiming you have given a hadith? I have even read your Hizmet reference and again he relies upon a 19th century mullah and a lot of spurious mention of "noble ancestry". So once again "Which hadith?". At least show that the hate for kaffirs is not so deep that a muslim is forbidden to even pray for kaffirs soul.
The kaffirs should be aware however that the hatred for kaffirs is imbedded very deeply in Islam and all the hypocrisy of the "moderate" faces of Islam cannot and will not change the fundamental basics upon which Islam is founded. The moderate face of Islam will always surface when it is under stress in the Kaffir lands. The moderate face does not exist in the muslim lands, and pick any muslim country and see the state of their religious minorities to confirm that. Remove the stress, scratch the surface, and the incurable hatred for the kaffirs will surface again. Believe the lies of the muslims at your own peril. |
I seriously don't see the point. I have already addressed these issues. Now if I even begin to discuss the issue you already see me as talking nonsense, so what's the point. You think you are right and if I saying anything else you always start acting aggressively, its the same with your type.
You know I have spoken about the hadith, I have not contradicted them. Now I gave a link to a book that has many, many hadith that explain the issue. Did you read that? I don't think you have.
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| Now you throw a lot of verbiage and you are bringing in sources of 20th century mullahs who give no reference to any original hadith or historical source what so ever. So why do you lie that your source give reference to a hadith? So I ask again: Which hadith? What are the sources for prophets coming to meet Amina? Do you follow Muhammed or some "sunni scholar"? Sunni scholars cannot invent and put words in muhammed's mouth. |
You are just being deceptive now. The works of the Sunni scholars of today are based on the words of Muhammad. Islamic learning is very deep and thorough, you have heard of the Ijazah system? Where only a qualified person can tell others that they are now ready to start preaching (therefore the history of current day scholars can be traced over hundreds of years back to those that were close to the Prophet). Sunni scholars cannot invent and put words into Muhammad's mouth, if they did, Muslims would abandon them as they would be outright liars. However the scholars of the majority are on the right path (hadith) as the Prophet predicted, that came from his mouth. The Prophet also said that the righteous scholars are the inheritors of the Prophet (hadith)
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| You reject the sunnah of muhammed. You are unable to squarely face the Sunnah of muhammed and are now creating angles helping pregnancy and dreams of prophets getting Amina out of Kufr. That is lame as lame can be. You reveal your islam to be a concoction of some silly fairy tales of angles, jinns, unseens, prophets talking in dreams, etc. etc. You are welcome to your personal beliefs. |
This is how you try to make people leave Islam!  Come on!
You ignore everything I say then try to tell me what I think!
(Thank you for allowing me to follow my personal beliefs – like I needed your permission  )
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You came here as the "lion of allah" and lied and then underwent a change in persona to ia786 and disawoved all words of lion of allah and the hatred that was spewed under that avatar. ia786 presents a more "reasonable" face so the kaffirs can see that muslims can be peaceful and can live among them peacefully. Why start lying again and claiming you have given a hadith? I have even read your Hizmet reference and again he relies upon a 19th century mullah and a lot of spurious mention of "noble ancestry". So once again "Which hadith?". At least show that the hate for kaffirs is not so deep that a muslim is forbidden to even pray for kaffirs soul.
The kaffirs should be aware however that the hatred for kaffirs is imbedded very deeply in Islam and all the hypocrisy of the "moderate" faces of Islam cannot and will not change the fundamental basics upon which Islam is founded. The moderate face of Islam will always surface when it is under stress in the Kaffir lands. The moderate face does not exist in the muslim lands, and pick any muslim country and see the state of their religious minorities to confirm that. Remove the stress, scratch the surface, and the incurable hatred for the kaffirs will surface again. Believe the lies of the muslims at your own peril. |
When I first came here I was probably aggressive and all that, for that I apologise. It was a mere fight or flight situation, you know? 
I have never supported terrorism or extremism. I am opposed to them completely as they only bring misery and destruction for everyone. Now I openly support freedom fighters (those that do not target innocent people, only military targets etc.) I have said that all along. That won't change.
I have given hadith in the link provided and here they are:
http://www.hizmetbooks.org/Endless_Bliss_First_Fascicle/b1-59.html
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In a hadith in the book of Imam-i Muslim, which has, of the thousands of hadith books, won second place, Rasulullah declares: "Of the descendants of Hadrat Ismail 'alaihis- salam', Allahu ta'ala selected a person named Quraish. And of the descendants of Quraish, He selected the Hashim Family. And among them He placed me."
In a hadith communicated by Tirmuzi, he declares: "Allahu ta'ala created everyone. He made me from the best group of humans. Then He created the best of these groups in Arabia. He made me from them. Then, choosing the best of homes, the best of families, He created me from them. Then, my soul and body are the best of creatures. My ancestors are the best people."
In a hadith in a book by Tabarani, one of the most valuable hadith savants, he declares: "Allahu ta'ala created everything out of nothing. Of all things, He liked human beings and made them valuable. Of mankind He made those whom He selected settle in Arabia. And of the distinguished in Arabia, He chose me. He placed me among the distinguished, the best of the people in every age. Then, those who love the ones in Arabia who are obedient to me, love them for my sake. Those who feel hostility towards them feel hostility towards me." This hadith ash-Sharif is also written at the beginning of Mawahib-i Ladunniyya.
As it is informed in Mawahib-i-Ladunniyya and in the explanation of Zarqani 'rahmatullahi ta'ala alaih', it is stated in a hadith ash-Sharif quoted by Abdullah bin Abbas 'radi-Allahu anhuma': "None of my grandfathers committed adultery. Allahu ta'ala made me from beautiful and good fathers and pure mothers. If one of my grandfathers had two sons. I would be in the most useful, the best of these." Before Islam, adultery was usual in Arabia. A woman would not marry a man before having been his mistress for a long time. [Today's disbelievers do the same.] |
Now you are merely taking one interpretation and saying it applies to all Muslims, wrong! you must take the mainstream position of the Muslims! That is the most important thing. Now please re-read my previous post, I have explained all this in detail. (Doing good/evil, being judged based on those etc.)
You are wrong about Islam calling on Muslims to hate all other people. Again that is simply taking things out of context, out of balance and then applying it to all Muslims. I have always mixed with Non-Muslims, some of my close friends are Non-Muslims. What extremists and those that support them (people like you! ) don't bother me. I will always mix with Non-Muslims.
The key issue for me, the most important thing is a knowing that Islam can be practised in the West peacefully and moderately, causing no stress or aggravation for anyone else. That is the key issue, now I know that there are no issues when it comes to this, there are some which are stubborn on both sides however I know Islam can be practiced peacefully and moderately. That to me is the main issue.
Can Islam be practised peacefully in the West, Yes or No?
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Moderate-Nazi
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| I will practise Islam moderately, peacefully as the Prophet advised. |
Dear ia786,
I am Moderate Nazi.
I practise Nazism moderately,  just like some muslims like you follow Islam moderately.
My Ideology founder is Adolf Hitler, Highly moral man ever lived on the planet. Nazism is most peaceful religion in the World.
My founder Said "Mohammedian Ideology is much more compatibile to us"
So, We Moderate Nazis and Moderate Muslims like you are Close Friends. What do you think Brother ?
Long Live FriendShip with Nazism and Islam !
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yeezevee
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ia786 writes: Now I openly support freedom fighters (those that do not target innocent people, only military targets etc.) I have said that all along. That won't change
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Can Islam be practised peacefully in the West, Yes or No? |
dear ia786 read the Q'uranic surahs carefully. you take a society and take few disgruntled people out of it and mix them few criminals pour the fire in their heads with the following Q'uranic Surahs and make them FREEDOM FIGHTERS. and you are asking a question.. I am sorry, I don't see way for people like you to practice Islam peacefully. What you think peaceful for you is not peaceful for others.. History of Islam is the proof for that read these verses carefully..
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Oh ye who believe! Murder those of the disbelievers and let them find harshness in you.
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I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off.
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Whoso desires another religion than Islam, it shall not be accepted of him; in the next world he shall be among the losers."
2:191
kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from wherever they drove you out
9:5
Slay the idolaters wherever you find them
2:193
Fight them on until there is no more fithah (sedition, discord) and religion becomes that of Allah.
9:14
Fight them, and Allah will punish them by your hands, cover them with shame, help you (to victory) over them, heal the breasts of Believers.
9:29
Fight those who do not believe in God and the last day... and fight People of the Book, who do not accept the religion of truth (Islam) until they pay tribute by hand, being inferior"
9:30
The Jews call 'Uzair a son of Allah, and the Christians call Christ the son of Allah. That is a saying from their mouth; (in this) they but imitate what the unbelievers of old used to say. Allah's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth!
9:28
O you who believe! Verily, the Mushrikûn (unbeleivers) are Najasun (impure). So let them not come near Al-Masjid-al-Harâm (at Makkah) after this year, …
9: 66
Make ye no excuses: ye have rejected Faith after ye had accepted it. If We pardon some of you, We will punish others amongst you…
47:4
When you meet the unbelievers, strike off their heads; then when you have made wide slaughter among them, carefully tie up the remaining captives.
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O Prophet! rouse the Believers to the fight. If there are twenty amongst you, patient and persevering, they will vanquish two hundred: if a hundred, they will vanquish a thousand of the Unbelievers.
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Let not the believers take for friends or helpers unbelievers rather than believers: if any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah. except by way of precaution, that ye may guard yourselves from them. But Allah cautions you (to fear) Himself; for the final goal is to Allah.
8: 60
Against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power, including steeds of war, to strike terror into (the hearts of) the enemies, of Allah and your enemies. |
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ia786
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We don't need a source. We know the source. What we ask you is to use your brain. How can someone emit light from her vagina in Mecca that ilumines a building in Damascus? How much stupid one must be to believe in this tale? This is like saying when my cat farts in America, the Ka'ba shakes.
Please ia786. Are you a human? Do you have any brain? Have you ever stopped to think about the asininity of this story? Don't you feel ashamed of making a fool of yourself repeating these stupid stories? How can a vagina produce so much light? Was this light brighter than the light of the Sun? Sun is illumining the buildings in Damascus evrerday. How come no one from Mecca can see them under such an intense light? Even if a nuclear bomb explodes in Damascus, one cannot see it in Mecca.
Assuming you have an extremely intense source of light, there is no way to bend the light to follow the curvature of the Earth and under no circumstances a light going out from the vagina of a woman in Mecca can lit any building in Damascus.
This concept is so stupid that there is no need to refute it. When you say "we believe in this", what you actually are saying is that you are a stupid person. |
Yeh...  (God is Great! )
I believe it was a vision, other people would not have been able to see that light (as far as I know) The Prophets mother could see the castles of Damascus, that is what has been passed down. That is what I believe. Now your 'analysis' means nothing to me. When it comes to miracles some people will never accept it unless they see it. Now with you, its not just Muhammad, its the other Prophets too. Do you believe that the Nile parted as Moses went through? You don't, water can't do this, blah blah.
The thing is you probably don't even believe in God. How can your understanding be the same as mine, I can't expect you to see things the way I do and you cannot expect me to see things the way you do. I have studied science so I’m not just an idiot, I know many things that did happen (miracles) were impossible. The Nile can't just part, babies can't talk and Angels don't exist, however that is where my faith in God comes in. (my faith in God comes back to the Prophets, and holy Books etc) Something you probably don't have, though there is hope! who knows 10 years from now you might become a beliver!!!
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]Being stupid is better?
What Islam has done to you that has made you better? You have been reduced into a subhuman. You talk gibrish and nonsense and believe in the most stupid things imaginable. At the same time you worship a pedophile an assassin a rapist. Is that better? |
I'm not stupid! (God is Great!!!!)
Islam has done alot to make me a better person. When I wasn't that religious I would do things without thinking. I would do bad things, I was mixing with the wrong people and going down the wrong path. I then began praying and reading Quran, learning about my religion and studying Muhammad. I changed for the better, all praise be to God!
You need to let all those stereotypes of your mind.
All religions (practised moderately) bring out the best in people. I do alot when it comes to looking after people that are ill, when I do things like that, I want those people to be happy and like that one also makes God happy, so its a good thing. Its good for society and everything like that. That is what religion and faith in God brings out in people, when practised moderately and peacefully, it brings out the best in people.
Now people throw the words 'pedophile an assassin a rapist' whenever Muhammad is mentioned. Now those are designed for shock value, that slander can always be fought against. Now there is alot of religion and philosophy behind those insults, the stuff people don't want others to know. One story I love reading is when Muhammad began preaching the people began threatening him and attacking him. There was this one woman that would throw rubbish at him all the time. Now once she didn't throw anything, when this happened, Muhammad went to see if she was okay. He went to her and found her ill, he helped her and when she saw this her heart began to melt, she accepted him as a Prophet, That is the Prophet of Allah!
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| ]Yes of course I am in a positoin ot judge you. You are an idiot. A total fool. A stupid person who believes in the most abusrd and ridiculous things and has no shame admitting them and becoming the object of ridicule. |
You meanie!!!
leave me alone!!!! 
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| ]Which truth? Truth must be demonstrated. Show us the truth you are talking about. I can prove everything I claim to be true. Where is your proof? |
I believe Islam can transform me into a good human being, I believe Islam is what will bring me close to those around me and to my Lord. I believe Islam will bring me success in this life and also in the hereafter. That is the truth I believe in, that is the truth I have tasted! My life story in itself is proof.
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| ]You are practicing evil moderately. What this makes you? It makes you a moderately evil person. |
No!!!!! 
There is beauty in all religion, can you admit that?
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]When something is stupid and can't be proven, it does not mean that it is deep; it means that it is stupid.
Are we supposed to believe that Santa Clause is living in the North Pole or in the lamp of Aladin? Are these "deep" because no one can prove them?
If something cannot be proven, that is because it is a fairytale. There is nothing wrong in fairytales but one must be a real stupid to believe in them. |
No. The difference between me and you is I believe in God and miracles, miracles cannot be proven, the are extra ordinary events, freak occurrences.
Let me ask you something (off-topic). Do you believe in UFOs? Now you probably haven't seen them. Now I've seen documentaries where groups of people, where whole towns have reported seeing UFOs, and I mean UFOS - triangle shaped flying objects. Can science prove that? No it can't, however people did see that. (just an example)
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| ]Dreams are fabrications of the brain during the sleep. It's foolish to assume what you dream is real. People dream of a famous personality that they know only from TV, that famous person has no idea that such an individual even exists. Does that mean there has been a contact between this famous person and this unknown individual? Sometimes my friends call to say they dreamed of me doing and saying this or that. If I had anything to do with those dreams how come I have no clue about them? If a live person has nothing to do with the dreams of other people about him, how come a dead person can have such control? You seem to be determined to be stupid, aren't you? |
No I'm not.
There are many kinds of dreams. In Islam we are told that there are 3 types, one that comes from the mind (your own thoughts) this is what you're referring too. We also have dreams that come from the Devils and then those that are from the Angels through God. People can be given messages through dreams, dreams are very, very significant. We know this from the story of Joseph (Yusuf), this is in the Quran. The interpretation of dreams is also a very important subject, it is not all conjecture.
There are many cases of people that see things in their dreams before they happen, sometimes people get warnings etc. I myself have had some experiences like this (they are personal so I won't go into them)
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ia786
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| I will practise Islam moderately, peacefully as the Prophet advised. |
Dear ia786,
I am Moderate Nazi.
I practise Nazism moderately, just like some muslims like you follow Islam moderately.
My Ideology founder is Adolf Hitler, Highly moral man ever lived on the planet. Nazism is most peaceful religion in the World.
My founder Said "Mohammedian Ideology is much more compatibile to us"
So, We Moderate Nazis and Moderate Muslims like you are Close Friends. What do you think Brother ?
Long Live FriendShip with Nazism and Islam !
Hail Mein Kempf ! Hail Koran ! |
Hey, what’s up Nazi, hey why don't you go to sleep. You sound tired. Seriously. But before that, why don't you close your account. (*cough* c.unt *cough*)
Hey Nazi, did you know that Hitler used Christianity to preach his message against Jews. You know that right? you manipulative b@stard!
http://www.nobeliefs.com/Hitler1.htm
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| Hitler wrote: "I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.." As a boy, Hitler attended to the Catholic church and experienced the anti-Semitic attitude of his culture. In his book, Mein Kampf, Hitler reveals himself as a fanatical believer in God and country. This text presents selected quotes from the infamous anti-Semite himself. |
We will always have deceptive people twisting peaceful religions in order to demonise others (in this case, a fifth of Mankind). Nazi C.unt, please eff off.
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Sister, you speak this like because you have been mislead.
Read our rebuttals to Ali Sina:
http://www.answering-christianity.com/faithfreedom_rebuttals.htm
Seriously, can you honestly trust this liar named Sina who tampers with evidence, and selectively quotes hadiths?????
By leaving Deen al-Islam you made a huge mistake, and we are trying to make you a Muslim again, by educating you on your Deen.
Firstly, my advice to you is this:
Leave this Forum immediately!
This is a debate forum, remember that. They aren't here to answer questions. |
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Hey, what’s up Nazi, hey why don't you go to sleep. You sound tired. Seriously. But before that, why don't you close your account. (*cough* c.unt *cough*)
Hey Nazi, did you know that Hitler used Christianity to preach his message against Jews. You know that right? you manipulative b@stard! We will always have deceptive people twisting peaceful religions in order to demonise others (in this case, a fifth of Mankind). Nazi C.unt, please eff off.
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If you don´t believe moderate nazism is possible then why do you believe moderate mohammedanism is possible?
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ia786
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| Hume wrote: |
| ia786 wrote: |
Hey, what’s up Nazi, hey why don't you go to sleep. You sound tired. Seriously. But before that, why don't you close your account. (*cough* c.unt *cough*)
Hey Nazi, did you know that Hitler used Christianity to preach his message against Jews. You know that right? you manipulative b@stard! We will always have deceptive people twisting peaceful religions in order to demonise others (in this case, a fifth of Mankind). Nazi C.unt, please eff off.
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If you don´t believe moderate nazism is possible then why do you believe moderate mohammedanism is possible? |
Because it is.
I am a Muslim, I practise Islam peacefully. I don't interfere with other people, I don't do anything that is wrong, I don't harm others. I follow my religion as it is preached, Islam calls on Muslims to be good human beings.
You need to follow what is preached in mainstream Mosques. Taking fringe movements and thinking all Muslims are like that is wrong!
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Because it is.
I am a Muslim, I practise Islam peacefully. I don't interfere with other people, I don't do anything that is wrong, I don't harm others. I follow my religion as it is preached, Islam calls on Muslims to be good human beings. |
Well so does moderate nazism apperently
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You need to follow what is preached in mainstream Mosques. Taking fringe movements and thinking all Muslims are like that is wrong!
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Was Mohammed practicing a fringe movement within mohammedanism!?
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