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Always_Kafir
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 Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 4:40 pm Post subject: 250000 Muslim apostates in Malaysia,100000 became christians |
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English Translation of Malay Article,
http://www.harakahdaily.net/v06/index.php?option=com_content&task=view%20&id=791&Itemid=28
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Tue | Feb 14, 06 | 06:15:44 PM
Oleh Ekmal Yusof IPOH, 14 Feb (Hrkh)
Head of the Malaysian State of Perak Mufti (religious head) Dato' Seri Haji Harussani Haji Zakaria announced that there are close to 250,000 muslim apostates in Malaysia.
This figure includes about 100,000 Malay muslims who have declared themselves Christians.
This announcement was made on a TV Forum entitled "Pekerti Islam" in the Malaysian State of Kedah recently which was aired by RTM (Malaysian TV & Radio Department) at 2 pm this evening.
Another 100,000 muslims are in the process of filing for apostasy while the rest are filing in to have their muslim name changed to "other religion name"
"This figure does not include individuals who don't do solat, doesn't fast and breaks all the tenets of Islam" he said.
According to the Perak Mufti he has personally received a letter from the American Christian Missionary Association which accuse the Malaysian (?) / Perak (?) religious authorities of being cruel (or mean) for not allowing about 30,000 Malay Muslims to convert out to Christianity. |
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Galadriel
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| Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 5:01 pm Post subject: |
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Good news! Let us all pray for Lina Joy.
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Galadriel
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Evangelizing (proselytizing) i.e sharing the Gospel is the most effective way to defeat Islam.
Some Anti-religionists might hate it but they do not offer better alternative solution to defeat Islam.
Christian missionaries are risking their life to evangelize in Muslim countries.
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Wiking
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| Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 5:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Galadriel wrote: |
Evangelizing (proselytizing) i.e sharing the Gospel is the most effective way to defeat Islam.
Some Anti-religionists might hate it but they do not offer better alternative solution to defeat Islam.
Christian missionaries are risking their life to evangelize in Muslim countries. |
Hello Galadriel,
You are probably right and quite frankly I don't care if they convert to christanity, buddhism, thaoism, atheism or whatever, if they only converet.
By the way, thank you for supporting Denmark. 
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ex-muslim
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| Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 5:59 pm Post subject: |
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FFI is starting to sound like a Christian Missionary site.
Why do so many ex-Muslims convert to Christianity?  |
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yeezevee
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FFI is starting to sound like a Christian Missionary site.
Why do so many ex-Muslims convert to Christianity? |
dear Ex_M., greestings., There is nothing wrongs in Muslims and ex-Muslims converting in to Christianity., It is just that "ISLAM" is closer to Chritianity., I think It is the next best alternative to Islam ., So I think it is good. here I didn't mean to say "Jesus Christ" is closer to Mr. PUBH.
with best wishes
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xyxx
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| Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 6:07 pm Post subject: |
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Well, many seem to need some sort of religion or spirituality. On the other hand, if 100000 of 250000 became Christians, it would mean that 150000 are without religion (if they didn't convert to another religion).
Of course, like always it is difficult to verify the authenticity, if you don't know the language and the source... |
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doubtless
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| ex-muslim wrote: |
FFI is starting to sound like a Christian Missionary site.
Why do so many ex-Muslims convert to Christianity? |
Because chritianity is an evangelizing religion. Christian missionaries are very active. Buddhist missionaries are not as active at present. Buddhist countries like China and Japan are not pushing conversions around the globe. Hindus have not figured out whether they want to get into the conversion game as yet or not. So far they have not. Jews have been forced out of the conversion game by islam and chrisitianity over the last two millenia. So it is not surprising that a lot of conversions are to christianity.
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Galadriel
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| Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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| ex-muslim wrote: |
Why do so many ex-Muslims convert to Christianity? |
Jesus Christ.
Jesus said: Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. (Matthew 11:28 )
Plus: this is the age of the Internet. Information not available in the past is now available to them freely and some of them must have listened to:
http://crosswalk.oneplace.com/ministries/walk_in_the_word/Archives.asp
http://crosswalk.oneplace.com/ministries/a_new_beginning/Archives.asp
If you follow Malaysian newspapers online such as Malaysiakini.com, you will find that apostasy is now a major problem in Malaysia. That is why we can hear some Muslim politicians are advocating death penalty for apostates.
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Tommy S
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| ex-muslim wrote: |
FFI is starting to sound like a Christian Missionary site.
Why do so many ex-Muslims convert to Christianity? |
As stated earlier. We do push our agenda: "Please, convert!Here's a free hospital." The denominations who evangelise the most are the catholics and protestants. The protestants are mainly calvin influenced charismatic movements, such as different pentecostal movements. The orthodox churches, as a rule, do not send missionaries.
Why do we evangelise? Jesus told us to.
Why don't we leave people alone? Nah, our religion is far too cool not to tell people about. But honestly, is there a nation anywhere that's actually suffered from becoming christian? Sweden is doing ok. South Korea isn't exactly on it's last legs... South America is dealing with the corruprion and is evolving quite rapidly these days. I admit this is a political matter rather than a religious one, but still. The christian tradition does a nation good.
Islam? Look at the entire moslem cultural sphere and name ONE nation that can compete with any of the nations in the European union, north america or wherever you have a christian majority.
I know I'll get a lot of flak for this, but please don't just call me an idiot, prove me wrong! I'm not, and you know it!
T
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XXX
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Yes, evangelizing by Lying to Muslims. Very nice of them isn't it? I've seen several TV's on this very matter- it amazes me how little they know about Islam and how much baloney they come out with. Like 'Quran teaches muslims to take guidence from the Gospel' or Quran confirms Jesus was God....
Rubbish. Let them become Christians-its not like its any huge loss to Us. |
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Vincent
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| XXX wrote: |
Yes, evangelizing by Lying to Muslims. Very nice of them isn't it? I've seen several TV's on this very matter- it amazes me how little they know about Islam and how much baloney they come out with. Like 'Quran teaches muslims to take guidence from the Gospel' or Quran confirms Jesus was God....
Rubbish. Let them become Christians-its not like its any huge loss to Us. |
Lying? What about Islam: the religion of peace , John Paul 2 who converted to Islam before his death, or even Napoleon who became muslim while in Egypt?.  You muslims always amaze me. I understand your feelings when you see your brothers rushing to leave this satanic cult. every good muslim should show his indignation and claim the other religions are lying and using dirty tricks to seperate the brothers from allah. I understand it's your duty. |
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Tommy S
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| XXX wrote: |
Yes, evangelizing by Lying to Muslims. Very nice of them isn't it? I've seen several TV's on this very matter- it amazes me how little they know about Islam and how much baloney they come out with. Like 'Quran teaches muslims to take guidence from the Gospel' or Quran confirms Jesus was God....
Rubbish. Let them become Christians-its not like its any huge loss to Us. |
I do not advocate lying. The Bible explicitly forbids it. But more to the point: Does having a christian majority cause harm to a nation? I say it does not! I say a christian majority is a good thing!
Prove me wrong!
T
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Wiking
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| XXX wrote: |
Yes, evangelizing by Lying to Muslims. Very nice of them isn't it? I've seen several TV's on this very matter- it amazes me how little they know about Islam and how much baloney they come out with. Like 'Quran teaches muslims to take guidence from the Gospel' or Quran confirms Jesus was God....
Rubbish. Let them become Christians-its not like its any huge loss to Us. |
Dear XXX!
It always amazes me to see how difficult it is for muslims to grasp the concept of the trinity! 
There is only one God. He is the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.
There is only one Wiking. He is the Father, the Husband and the Considerate Lover. 
Where is the contradiction? Personaly I don't subscribe to any religion, but I'm brought up with the concept and it doesn't disturb me the slightest.
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