thinkin' of throwing in the towel too

Dawn*

Hi everyone,

I joined this forum today and am pretty excited about reading through the threads. I've been searching for a discussion board like this one for some time now. So kudos to whoever initiated this! I didn't see any sub categories for newbies, so i'll briefly introduce myself here. I'm an Iranian almost ex-Muslim. I've been contemplating abandoning Islam/religion for about a year. As most of you probably know due to your own personal experiences, it's a difficult and strenuous process. I noticed the youth forum isn't too active, but i'm actually interested in getting to know other youth - I'm 18 - who can relate to my situation.
Anyway, I'm looking forward to meeting you all.

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piggy · Joined: 13 Feb 2004 Posts: 6372 Location: Godwana

Hello and welcome to you Dawn.

Regarding other youth, you may be able to invite other youths here to use this forum as a discussion safe-haven and a source of information.

In any event stick around and you will see that Islam is based on lies and deceit and is an evil system of oppression and control.

Take care and best wishes.
Piggy.

Ali Sina · Joined: 13 Feb 2004 Posts: 4607

Hi Dawn*

Khoshamadi

Nice to have you here. I am also a youth, only a few years older than you. I won’t say how many. But hey, who’s counting!

Yep you are right, leaving Islam seem to be daunting because non one of us saw anyone actually doing it and many of us grew up thinking this is something that can’t be done. However there are many people who are leaving Islam. The problem is that they are afraid of telling others for the fear of being ostracized. Now with the advent of the Internet, that task seems to be easy and we are finding each other and sharing our experiences.

There are many benefits in leaving Islam. The first and foremost is that we suddenly realize we are humans, just like other human beings and we are not just brothers to a certain group but to all mankind. I tell you only this feeling is exhilarating and empowering.

Go and invite other youths like yourself and myself and see if you can revive the youth forum. May be you can be in charge of that forum and run it your way.

Take care and I look forward reading more your thoughts.
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Thinker · Joined: 19 Jul 2004 Posts: 78 Location: USA

hey Dawn*

First I wanna say congratulations on taking the first and most important step: overcoming your fears and rejecting the social programming that controlled your mind and billions of other minds through out all these centuries.

I am only 4 years older than you, and I have joined this forum just couple days ago. Read Mr. Ali Sina's articles and read the other threads. they are a very valuable resource and they will help a lot seeing things more clearly. They are very enlightning and in most cases, funny and amusing as well. Also keep in touch with us because you will find a lot of support and help here. Your society and what you learned when you were younger will still try to weaken you and make you think twice about what you're doing, but with the help of this forum things will go smoother.

Another advice for all of you guys, in case you haven't seen it (and I doubt that you haven't) then please rent the movie "The Matrix" and watch. You will know what I mean after you've seen it

regards...

dragonpoo · Joined: 01 Jun 2004 Posts: 526 Location: UK

hehe well done you 2

i was never a muslim but bought into the lies about it for a very long time.

a_student · Joined: 04 May 2004 Posts: 865 Location: Seventh Heaven

chingachgook · Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2004 4:43 pm Post subject:

Dawn* · Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2004 9:01 pm Post subject:

Hi guys,

Thank you to all for the replies. In response to those who asked - my doubts don't arise from any one particular aspect of Islam, but rather the system of the faith in general. Ok here's some of my background info:
I come from a semi-religious family. My grandfather was actually an ayatollah in Iran. Luckily, my father is a freethinker, yet my mother is a typical confused and brainwashed Muslim. In spite of the doubts and questions which often clouded my mind, I too was a devout believer. Three years ago I would swear on my life that no religion could surpass Islam in completeness and greatness, and that I'd never give in to this world like those "cursed infidels" and "lost souls". I'm still a little hesistant about deconverting, mainly because i've been so accustomed to the religious thinking and lifestyle.

Scott · Joined: 15 Jul 2004 Posts: 1391

I think you're already far past the point of deconverting.

You can aparently think for yourself.

I think this makes you a non-muslim by default.

You don't have to be rapidly "anti" the religion you came from...
I don't think people want or even expect that.

Keep us informed of new events, ok?

good luck.

Scott
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a_student · Joined: 04 May 2004 Posts: 865 Location: Seventh Heaven

momtaz · Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2004 1:09 pm Post subject:

Hello and Welcome to FFI Dawn*

Im trueblue. An ex-muslim and now an avowed athiest. Nice to know you are from Iran. Well, I dont have any Iran connection but I have fallen in love with that country because Iran is my mentor Ali's birthplace. It looks like there are quite a few freethinkers in Iran. What still baffles me how such a nation home to some of the finest minds fall victim to menacing Islam. It seems the older generation nutcases have to be completely toppled and the brunt of post-revolution lifestyle reversed for the nations thinkers to come out in the open. Im sure there will be many more like you struggling to come out in the open, but cannot do so at present.

Anyway, hoping to see you around.
Cheers!
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ibn_rushd2 · Joined: 14 Feb 2004 Posts: 2454 Location: Canada

I am youth too. I'm 22. I was 19 when I converted and left Islam.

momtaz · Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2004 5:59 am Post subject:

Me too. But I hate the youth forum. And I prefer the company older, mature people.
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What is the cause of Islamic Terrorism & Madness?

"It is ISLAM, it is the BOOK, and it is the MUHAMMED"
yeezevee

Dawn* · Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2004 6:57 am Post subject: