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goedels_paradox
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save yourself from this sewage site every day you sink deeper and deeper in Sina's dirt. |
Yeezevee, I have a suspicion you irritate Masadi the most.  Masadi must be having sleepless nights seeing your posts. 
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yeezevee
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Well dear G_P, ...Asadi is a friend of mine and I wish him well .. He is Also a friend of Friendship. I am only here to make people like Asadi realize " Islam is nothing to do with Allaha/God.. whatever.. but it is a Political ideology of Mr. Mohammad. Later it became a tool for Bedouin tribe to destroy the countries and cultures around Arabia. It is a Feudal religion with Foolish followers. The followers of Islam is always either with war with-in themselves or with others.. And this is going on for 1400 years."
It is simply a problem of "Haves" and" havenots" ., The only thing is, these "havenot's" move in to Islam Ruin the "HAVES" and try to become "HAVES"
And these Muslim "HAVES" make fool of people around them to live for generations as "HAVES".. Sayeeds.. kings.., generals.. Mullahs..,It is like absolute power corrupt people absolutely
I have no interest in Insulting Mohammad but I have to do it for the sake of Muslims and for friends like Asadi..
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goedels_paradox
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Well dear G_P, ...Asadi is a friend of mine and I wish him well .. He is Also a friend of Friendship. I am only here to make people like Asadi realize " Islam is nothing to do with Allaha/God.. whatever.. but it is a Political ideology of Mr. Mohammad. Later it became a tool for Bedouin tribe to destroy the countries and cultures around Arabia. It is a Feudal religion with Foolish followers. The followers of Islam is always either with war with-in themselves or with others.. And this is going on for 1400 years."
It is simply a problem of "Haves" and" havenots" ., The only thing is, these "havenot's" move in to Islam Ruin the "HAVES" and try to become "HAVES"
And these Muslim "HAVES" make fool of people around them to live for generations as "HAVES".. Sayeeds.. kings.., generals.. Mullahs..,It is like absolute power corrupt people absolutely
I have no interest in Insulting Mohammad but I have to do it for the sake of Muslims and for friends like Asadi..
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I could have debated with Masadi as a friend too, if Masadi had shown us a modicum of decency. Its tough to imagine that such a person can have friends.
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humandecency
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| I could have debated with Masadi as a friend too, if Masadi had shown us a modicum of decency. |
Muslims like masadi have no respect for human decency.
They avoid any sign of human decency and regard human decency as the enemy of Islam.
And this is true. Human decency and Islam do not go together.
Human decency in not a part of Islam. Islam has no room for human decency. ....... Or any other form of decency. Even cockroach decency is better than the sort of decency displayed by Yamin Zakaria and masadi and Zakir Quacker.
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lightofasia
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Friendship with Mr.Asadi is only possible when you agree with his views. Or else you are his enemy. He will call you an imposter and a criminal. So talk sense and reality because anyone can pretend to be a JESUS incarnate on forums, coz u only write here and then spend other times with family and friends. What if this person is going to be a neighbour or one in family? Certainly REALITY is SOMETHING different from what people write sometimes here.
Truly no one would love to abuse MUHAMMAD, unless muslims call him as best of creations. But why muslims? You people call him the best and ultimately the real best escapes limelight!!! So it is better to have real discussions rather than reel JESUS or BUDDHA kind of pretensions.
Mr.Asadi i would suggest that you have a practical discussion defending your faith when required and accpeting the flaw when realised. Because i am really sick of one-sided arguments like either completely ditch MUHAMMAD or at once call him the BEST!! Please be truthful, friends. Most of you[including muslim defenders] do a great job, but at times falter.
Certainly you have this edit button here to change your words whenever you want, but of course you can't change your ACTION. So please be REAL REAL REAL!
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piggy
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| I could have debated with Masadi as a friend too, if Masadi had shown us a modicum of decency. |
Muslims like masadi have no respect for human decency.
They avoid any sign of human decency and regard human decency as the enemy of Islam.
And this is true. Human decency and Islam do not go together.
Human decency in not a part of Islam. Islam has no room for human decency. ....... Or any other form of decency. Even cockroach decency is better than the sort of decency displayed by Yamin Zakaria and masadi and Zakir Quacker. |
These arse-holes live off the ignorance of the deluded, mesmo-hypno, gullible zombies of this pathetic cult.
They treat there fellow "muslims' like mushrooms .......... keep them in the dark and feed them bull-shlt.
They are so desperate to keep the following in the cult, otherwise these slimy.leeches would have to get a real job. |
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Taqqiya Tactician
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These arse-holes live off the ignorance of the deluded, mesmo-hypno, gullible zombies of this pathetic cult.
They treat there fellow "muslims' like mushrooms .......... keep them in the dark and feed them bull-shlt.
They are so desperate to keep the following in the cult, otherwise these slimy.leeches would have to get a real job. |
Zacker Quacker says he sacrificed his medical career as a doctor in favour of promoting the truth about Islam. I would rather this man promote Islam than practise medicine. Imagine how many innocent Indians would die from his hands, out of his sheer incompetence. I mean, we are talking about a medical doctor who believes that if you eat pork, you behave like pig, that entering a polygamous arrangement is better for a woman than remain unmarried. Apparantly this quacker believes we are going to face an apocalyspe where women are going to outnumber men many fold such that if all men did not marry 4 women, women would have to live single.!!! Oh, and in defense of Islamic barbaric ritual of animal sacrifice, this clown says plants feel pain too and in the same breath says animals wont feel any pain when sacrificed in the proper Islamic shariah method, invoking the name of Allah and his messenger. Zacker Quacker is a walking talking stupidity with hands and feet. And to think this clown has admirers!! Its a sorry world we live in.
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masadi
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DO NOT POST IRRELEVANCIES ON HERE. THE ORIGINAL ARTICLE IS BELOW, TRY TO REFUTE IT FOR IT TOTALLY DISMANTLES YOUR ENTIRE THESIS AND I HOPE YOU CAN COME UP WITH A BETTER RESPONSE THAN ALI SINA.
Islam: Image & Reality Post 9/11
Wednesday 30th November 2005, by Muhammed Asadi
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Dear masadi,
You have posted this countless times.
Once should be enough.
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baba wawa
Joined: 30 Dec 2005
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Location: Enjoying the sweet sweet video of Zarqawi's home blowded up
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Summary of masadi's article:
"Look at me! Me! ME!" |
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WannaBeRSC
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Summary of masadi's article:
"Look at me! Me! ME!" |
Sounds like it. Will downlload and read closely, see if there is anything of worth here... I'm not holding my breath.
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friendship
Joined: 18 Nov 2005
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| dear friendship, I will certainly spend time carefully think before I respond in detail for you above reply.. There are many issues often not related to each other in your response. Why would you say I don't question Americans.? when it comes to Allaha?God?.. whatever.. No country, No messenger, No Prophet , no book and No God is an exception. I will question in every possible way and I will throw every stone that I have at that concept God. Yes If Americans are doing their Foreign policy with God/Allah Guidance similar to that ISLAM.. They will also get the same treatment as Islam from a fellow like me .. and .. and I will answer your query |
Yeezevee: As you wrote previously, you would need more time to think carefully before you respond to my post. Have you changed your mind now? Do you want me to take someone else’s response as if it has come from you?
Please show me where “many issues” often are unrelated and how?
I didn’t say you don’t question Americans, I said “IF”. It’s a conditional statement.
You said “No God is an exception”; and “I will throw every stone that I have at that concept of God”, does that mean you are an Atheist?
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| Islam is a contradictory religion where of course on one hand it say: |
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| If Quran is not contradictory then Islam is a religion of HYPOCRITES. |
Yes, I agree with you only if they learn Islam from people like you.
Then goedels writes in his signature
There is no God but Truth
There is no God but Truth
There is no God but Truth
There is no God but Truth
Does that mean you are an ATHEIST as well?
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Masadi Wrote :
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| Friendship: I thank you for your time and efforts and the thought and patience you put in your posts |
Thank you Masadi, I appreciate your comments.
Web definitions of Ad Hominem:
1) an argument "against the man" or person. This is a device employed to attack not the issues but rather the one you are arguing with, especially on a personal level or basis. It is usually employed by those whose arguments are weak.
2) when people can't find fault with an argument, they sometimes attack the arguer, substituting irrelevant assertions about that person's character for an analysis of the argument itself.
3) attacking your opponent personally rather than her/his argument. Ad hominem is fallacious argumentation.
Human Decency wrote:
1) Your are a troll and a liar without rivals.
2) The rest is the silliness of fiendchip's creative nonsense.
3) and that Mahommit was a stinking pedophile!
4) And we get this Bullsheep from Fiendsheep that the truth has something to do
5) and the perverted pedophile Mahommit is just as perverted a pedophile. No matter who was yeezevee, Mahommit was just as much a rapist, torturer and evil scumbag.
6) Asking "who is yeezevee" will not save friendship from the sillyness of friendship's silly arguments.
7) So don't ask who is yeezevee. Who was the Pedophile Pervert Mahommit? That is the relevant question.
8 ) Also fiendsheep is praying and not seeing islamic aggression.
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| The point dear fiendsheep is that your argument is ad hominem and c'rap! |
Human Decency: What intellectual purpose do you propose to achieve by twisting fellow members screen names and raw verbal abuse such as BullSheep and Fiendsheep and calling the person under discussion all sorts of inciting names?
If you are angry then you should read the following teachings of Islam.
Islamic Teaching about Controlling ones ANGER.
The strong person is not he who defeats others in wrestling. The strong person is he who has full control over himself during his anger ( Bukhari Kitabul Adab)
As ones ego constantly incites one to do evil deeds, one real jihad is with ones own self. Anger leads to extreme behaviour and deprives one of the chance to have a balanced conduct which is characteristic of a true believer. The Holy Quran (3:135) describes the God fearing people as those who suppress their anger and forgive others. So, ones true strength is revealed only when one succeeds in suppressing ones rage and does not behave in an extreme manner.
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In Islam even a word of goodness is considered an act of charity:
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| A word of goodness is an act of charity (Bukhari) |
If you tell someone about an act of virtue and persuade him to do so, and then if he reforms himself and performs a good deed, you too will share an equal reward. So, saying something virtuous to someone, and for him to act upon it, is like performing that virtuous act yourself.
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| Masadi I hope you are not one of the kind that believes "if a lie is repeated a thousand times it becomes truth". |
That’s what Human decency believes and demonstrates by quoting long paragraphs that don’t need to be repeated.
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| you would write an article on your website in which you will refute the article Ali sina has written about the absurdity of Quran. |
There is no need for that Anita. Since Sina doesn’t actively participate in his defence of articles on the forum, what is there need for you to defend them?
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| Remember right now the question is not if Quran is scientific or not (because you have no case for that) but if it is absurd or not. Ali sina has proven it is absurd, you can prove him wrong. |
It doesn’t matter what Ali Sina is saying in his articles if he is not coming to their defence in the forum. Since you are here Anita, maybe you can bring such “absurdities” one by one and ask for explanation rather than glorifying a third person? This will give an opportunity to both parties to actively participate and post their arguments.
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| More people know and read Ali sinas articles than yours. His website is among the top 3000 websites. He has an entry in Wikipdia as a writer and thinker. That is some thing, you are no body compared to him. |
You obviously like Sina’s profile but what does it do for you personally except giving you the chance to tell Masadi what he should do, and what he shouldn’t do?
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BUt I guess you are too scared to be exposed and would rather keep your self busy barking here |
Really Anita?
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Always Kafir writes:
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| Quran is a book of contradictory nonsense. |
No, I disagree with you.
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| But, Satan Helps. Satan helps in killing, looting, encourage intolerence, murder, rape, hating non-muslims etc. |
What If I said “But, satan helps. Satan helps in killing, looting, encourage intolerance, murder, rape, hating muslims etc. Will that do anything for you?"
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Sahih Bukhari
Volume 5, Book 59, Number 369:
Narrated Jabir bin 'Abdullah:
Allah's Apostle said, "Who is willing to kill Ka'b bin Al-Ashraf who has hurt Allah and His Apostle?" Thereupon Muhammad bin Maslama got up saying, "O Allah's Apostle! Would you like that I kill him?" The Prophet said, "Yes," Muhammad bin Maslama said, "Then allow me to say a (false) thing (i.e. to deceive Kab). "The Prophet said, "You may say it."
Mohammed permited to say LIES. |
No, I disagree. Muhammad could have never gone against the teachings of Quran, and the quran teaches to tell the truth.
[6:149] Those who associate gods with Allah will say, 'If Allah had pleased, we would not have associated gods with Him, nor would our fathers, nor would we have made anything unlawful.' In the like manner did those who were before them accuse God's Messengers of falsehood, until they tasted Our wrath. Say, 'Have you any knowledge? Then produce it for us. You only follow mere conjecture. And you only tell lies.'
Here is what the book of Bukhari says about telling lies:
A hypocrite has three characteristics: When he speaks, he tells a lie; when he makes a promise, he breaks it; and when entrusted (with something), he violates the trust (Bukhari; volume 1, Kitabul Iman)
Three vices are inter-related: telling lies, not keeping ones promises, and not honouring the trust that is given to one. Telling lies is the root of all these vices. A hypocrite, by definition, is a person who feels one thing in his heart but allows his tongue to say quite the opposite – and this is the essence of lying.
Since a hypocrite is a habitual liar, when he makes a promise, he is simply lying about it, and has no intention of keeping it. Similarly, when he undertakes to keep someones secret, or something precious with him for safekeeping, he is just ling about it too.
The Holy Quran commands us to avoid these sins in the following words.:
[2:178] It is not righteousness that you turn your faces to the East or the West, but truly righteous is he who believes in Allah and the Last Day and the angels and the Book and the Prophets, and spends his money out of love for Him, on the kindred and the orphans and the needy and the wayfarer and those who ask for charity, and for ransoming the captives; and observes prayer and pays the Zakat; and those who fulfil their promise when they have made one, and the patient in poverty and afflictions and the steadfast in the time of war; it is these who have proved truthful and it is these who are truly God-Fearing.
The Holy Quran further states about shunning all words of untruth as follows:
[22:31] That is Allah's commandment. And whoso honours the things declared sacred by Allah, it will be good for him with his Lord. And the eating of the flesh of all cattle is made lawful to you except that which has already been announced to you in the Qur'an. Shun, therefore, the abomination of idols, and shun all words of untruth
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| [7:4] Follow that which has been sent down to you from your Lord, and follow no protectors other than Him. But you seldom take warning. [7:5] How many a town have We destroyed! And our punishment came upon it by night or while they slept at noon. [7 : 6] So when our punishment came upon them, their cry was nothing but they said, 'We were indeed wrongdoers! |
Always Kafir, you have missed the last words of the Ayah that said “we were indeed wrongdoers”.
The verse provides the reason for such action that they admitted they were indeed wrongdoers. What is the point of living as wrongdoers when God has decided you have outlived your purpose?
This destruction could have come as a natural disaster to rebellious people. If Allah gives life, He has the right to take it away how He likes it and when He likes it. Man hurts and dies out of his own errors.
God warns people and they do not heed, then why do they complain when they have to face the consequences for rejecting the truth?
The truth is when you cut your fingers with a knife you will bleed. Do you want God to make the knife tender and soft when you try to cut yourself.
Do you want God to compromise the Natural Laws just because you are bent upon rejecting the Eternal Truth?
What objections do you have against that?
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| Dr. Abu Zayd Shalabi discusses the Islamic wars which were initiated by the four caliphs who succeeded Muhammad |
Who is DR ABU ZAYD SHALABI? I have never heard of this person. Obviously Kafir, you have not only heard this name you also believe his words.
Always Kafir, Why do you believe DR ABU ZAYD as against the word of Quran?
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| The Hermez declined to accept any of these terms but war. The Persians were defeated in this battle and Khalid seized the booty and sent Abu Bakr one-fifth of the spoils of war, exactly as they were accustomed to send to Muhammad. One-fifth of the booty belonged to God and to Muhammad. |
That is not true. I have already corrected the percentage of the booty, and it is not 20%. I reproduce the verse in complete.
[8:42] And know that whatever you take as spoils in war, a fifth thereof is for Allah and for the Messenger and the kindred and the orphans and the needy and the wayfarer, if you believe in Allah and what We sent down to Our servant on the Day of Distinction, - the day when the two armies met - and Allah has power to do all that He wills.
1/5 = 20% is to divided into “Allah & Muhammad = 4%; the kindred=4%; the orphans=4%; the needy =4% and wayfarer=4%. Therefore it is not 1/5 but only 4%.
In answer to the scenes at the battles; here is a few quotes:
One who does not show mercy will not be shown mercy (Bukhari-Kitabul Adab)
The book of Bukhari says the aggressors can not be shown mercy. Always kafir brings the battles to prove that Muslims who had recorded “aggressors wouldn’t be shown mercy” were actually the aggressors themselves.
That’s not possible. If they were the aggressors then they would have gone against the word of the Prophet and the Holy Quran.
[6:13] Say, 'To whom belongs what is in the heavens and the earth?' Say, 'To Allah.' He has taken upon Himself to show mercy. He will certainly continue to assemble you till the Day of Resurrection. There is no doubt in it. Those who have ruined their souls will not believe.
Then always kafir Rehashes the battles that were already mentioned by YEEZEVEE.
Always Kafir: You have not responded to the issues raised in the post that I wrote previously.
For example Friendship wrote:
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At the battle of BADR where 313 inexperienced Muslim fighters were confronted with seasoned army that was 3 times their size. There were only 2 horses in the whole Muslim army.
If the Medina Muslims thought the Prophet was a lying politician who only thought of his own benefit then they were the most naïve and ignorant people to fight on the right and on the left of the Prophet. Fighting with an army that was 3 times their size is no less than committing suicide. If they were lying hypocrites they would have refused to fight for a lying politician. What did they have to lose?
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| Yeezevee, how can you possibly consider these few Muslims aggressors? The Muslims and the Prophet who had escaped Meccan cruelty to take shelter in Medina? |
So Always Kafir, how do u propose an army with 2 horses is aggressive towards an experienced and well equipped army that is 3 times their size?
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When the Quran says “invite non believers to Islam with the best manner” why didn’t these lying naïve hypocrites raised fingers at the lying politian? Rather than challenging the sanity of the lying politician they decided to fight for him? |
So Always Kafir, why gamble their life for a liar? Would you accept a sword on your neck protecting little bush?
Friendship wrote:
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| If the prophet had thought of his own benefit then he would have been better off by letting them continue gambling, consuming alcohol, burying their daughters out of shame. He would have had better control of the people around him, and would have benefited from their wealth. He would have benefited from the “interest system” more than anyone as the people trusted him with their belongings and knew him as “the trustworthy”. He would have had an easy time for letting people do what they desired most and benefited from it. |
Always Kafir; why did the prophet want to reform the society for the better when the history shows it all went against his personal benefit, got him and his family 3 years of Social Boycott by the Quraish of Mecca, got him numerous assassination attempts; won him worst enemies; landed him in bloody battles where his relatives would be lost?
Do you not agree that the Prophet would have made himself wealthy on Khadija’s money, on charging interest to people who trusted him with personal belongings? He was from the QURAISH tribe who were at the time in charge of Kaaba, why didn’t the prophet advance his personal cause so he becomes the next Quraish leader and exploit the pilgrimages?
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Piggy spreads his words of wisdom that if a Muslim had used, the whole forum would have stood up spewing abusive language at Islam and its founder. So piggy writes:
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These arse-holes live off the ignorance of the deluded, mesmo-hypno, gullible zombies of this pathetic cult.
They treat there fellow "muslims' like mushrooms .......... keep them in the dark and feed them bull-shlt. |
Piggy: that’s pure hatred, and has nothing to do with intelligent debate.
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Taqqiya Tactician you have written in your signature:
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| Quran 8:41: "And know that whatever of war-booty that you may gain, verily one fifth(1/5th) of it is assigned to Allah and to His messenger." |
Please correct yourself as I have explained above in this post. Thanks.
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humandecency
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| Yeezevee, if you will not question America’s “peaceful” and “diplomatic” foreign policies, then who are you to question anyone of “Human Rights” and peace? Who are you to bring me the Islamic Expeditions and attempt to prove that they flout the peaceful message of ISLAM and the Quran; that they contradict the message of “there is no compulsion in religion”? |
Here is what that twisting liar called "friendship" avoids showing.
He takes out of context, a few isolated sentences, that are more embellishments than part of my argument.
As it was quite a long post, he has twisted my post into something without it's original meaning.
The main point was masadi's stupid and idiotic paragraph above, where he makes ad hominem and tu quoque attacks against yeezevee.
I have pointed out the stupidity of linking what yeezevee should think about america, with the truth about the pedophilic and barbaric nature of the idol of muslims i.e. Mahommit the scumbag murderer.
So for anyone who want to see it in context what I wrote, it's here.
http://www.faithfreedom.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=295303#295303
Ever since friendship's first posts here at FFI, he has never replied to anyone, and always just harped on irrelevancies.
Just like he singles out those words of mine, that were just there for the mocking of masadis and friendship's stupidity.
For anyone that's new to this moron friendship, just keep watching him and you'll see what I mean.
I would give him the mendacity of the year award, though at the moment we have a few other low class muslims like masadi who could share the prize.
These two never have answered anybodies questions. They just keep changing the position of the goal posts.
They deserve the respect of the used car salesmen sons of a Teheran whore married to an ayatollah.
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This thread needs to go to TRASH as enough replies have been given to the ARTICLE. Its waste of time writing here.
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Sure indeeed, for I have understood Islam as a religion of Hypocrites and I feel it is my duty to inform people of its hypocrisy. On one had hypocrites like you leave no stone unturned to show the Islam is a religion of peace by quoting 2:256 yet when you meet your co-religionists in mosques you make it clear that you follow 9:28 and consider the disbelievers impure.
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| 9:28. O you who believe (in Allâh’s Oneness and in His Messenger Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم)! Verily, the Mushrikûn (polytheists, pagans, idolaters, disbelievers in the Oneness of Allâh, and in the Message of Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم) are Najasun (impure).[1] So let them not come near Al-Masjidal-Harâm (at Makkah) after this year; and if you fear poverty, Allâh will enrich you if He wills, out of His Bounty. Surely, Allâh is All-Knowing, All-Wise. |
Not just that you will concur with your terrorist friends that you might meet in your mosques they should indeed fight the disbelivers as you consider verse 9:29 sacred.
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| 9:29. Fight against those who (1) believe not in Allâh, (2) nor in the Last Day, (3) nor forbid that which has been forbidden by Allâh and His Messenger Muhammad (صلى الله عليه وسلم) (4) and those who acknowledge not the religion of truth (i.e. Islâm) among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), until they pay the Jizyah [2] with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. |
On one hand you call Jews and Christians the people of the book and tell them that you follow the same god, yet from the actions of your terrorist friends whom you meet in your mosques it is clear what you follow: 5:51 and 9:30
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| 5:51. O you who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians as Auliyâ’ (friends, protectors, helpers), they are but Auliyâ’ of each other. And if any amongst you takes them (as Auliyâ’), then surely he is one of them. Verily, Allâh guides not those people who are the Zâlimûn (polytheists and wrong-doers and unjust). |
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| 9:30. And the Jews say: ‘Uzair (Ezra) is the son of Allâh, and the Christians say: Messiah is the son of Allâh. That is their saying with their mouths, resembling the saying of those who disbelieved aforetime. Allâh’s Curse be on them , how they are deluded away from the truth![3] |
Masadi the person whom you support so greatly here is infact the biggest HYPOCRITE that you will encounter. On one hand you claim muslims are followers of 3:135 and 22:31, here we have the self confessed champion of Islamic cause, LYING when he debates. He uses profanities by the galore. Why do the people here react to him the way they do ? He was caught redhanded when it was realized that he didnt even read Ali Sina's article in inheritance before he even challenged Ali Sina. He lies when he debates. Perhaps muslims are told not to lie to each other. But with non-muslims it is alright to lie and decieve.
In fact in Mohammed has urged you to decieve people to make peace:
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Shahih bukhari
Volume 3, Book 49, Number 857:
Narrated Um Kulthum bint Uqba:
That she heard Allah's Apostle saying, "He who makes peace between the people by inventing good information or saying good things, is not a liar." |
Masadi, although denies that he follows the hadiths, but clearly through his track record of lying here and the fact that muslims are urged to follow their mohammed, may indeed be following his hadiths.
About whether I am an atheist. I am not. This is what I mean by there is no God but truth: http://www.faithfreedom.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=16494&start=5
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Friendship as you have noticed, these Sina "cheerfarts", don't have a clue, just as they don't have a case. You can knock down their ill thought, oft repeated nonsense, they come back with the same nonsense reworded and all the while the master deceiver, their patron saint, Sina is missing from the debate.
He spends his time pressuring Wiki to censor all criticism from his article even as he proclaims that Islam leads to censorship. These damn fools are hypocrites and I thank you once again for being so patient and taking time to answer their claims. Your efforts will be rewarded by Allah for sure, and even though these damn fools are immune from any and all truth, many others visiting this forum will see where the truth is. In the meantime the moderator M is deleting my posts and claiming spam for them. He or she does not delete the 1001 times the Yezeevee has posted his so called time line of Islamic atrocities on various forum, he does not do that, neither does he delete the posts by these cheerfarts that are irrelevant to this thread, like the one by lightofasia where he says
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| This thread needs to go to TRASH as enough replies have been given to the ARTICLE. Its waste of time writing here |
But when I try to restore the discussion to the original topic by reposting that topic that was masked by the postings of these idiots, M deletes them. They have similar bigots that they know on Wiki that will delete any and all criticism posted under the criticism segment of Sina's entry of Wiki. Soon their deception will catch up with them, their whole life has become one big lie. |
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