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Iznogoodh
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freeland
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My dear Darius, in Italy never happened. As a matter of fact they had plenty of occasions to condemn terrorism or terrorists acts, but never did. We just heard craps like: this is not Islam, terrorism it’s not an Islamic teachings, they are not Muslims, they are just a product of imperialism. Or, they are Jews or CIA agents. They never says: we condemn Osama bi Laden and all his assassins followers. Regarding CAIR I have lots of doubts about that association and about all Islamic centres in Italy.
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Absolutely, we'll show you soon. If not we - our children or grandchildren will get you (kuffars) away from the surface of the Earth. Amin. |
May your dreams be merry and nice, my child. Because your own daughter will not wear the scarf or niqaab or whatever old-fashioned anomaly anymore...
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freeland
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"Islam is evil"
"Muslims are evil"
"Islam is a virus"
"Islam must be eradicated and destroyed"
I totally agree :-D
but I will add
We must throw out all Muslims fondamentalist from Europe
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Darius, how many members do you have in Dariusism so far? You talked about some Pakistanis and some Saudis. Do you have any organisation? Any newletter that one could read? Or is it just your website? Where should one look for writings about your version of Islam?
And who is this "we" you keep referring to? |
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freeland
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We don’t need to read HIS version of Islam; just take a look at all Islamic sites, they write the same idiot things. It happens in Italy as in Australia, Canada or Pakistan.
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Darius
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| Darius you would not know a condemnation of terror if you saw one. CAIR put that out under stress and the two line pro forma statement is all they have ever been able to muster. It fools no one except muslim wannabes like you. That is not an apology. Muslim deception is now apparent and many of the Kafirs can see through most of the lying and taqqiya. More Kafirs need to be edudcated, however. |
Now you are calling all Muslims liars based upon a doctrine supported by 11-12% of the Muslim world population--the doctrine of deception or taqqiyah. So what kind of lies are you accusing us of when you can't even get your facts straight? You are playing the game from an illusion of having the moral high-ground, but the higher you step upon that horse, the easier it becomes to knock you down. You assume the apartheid imposed between the Kafirs and the Muslims by the fascist Kafirs of FFI who advocate the extradition of all Muslims from any Kafir controlled state; contrasting the "educated" Kafirs who think that taqiyyah is a mainstream Islamic doctrine and the "uneducated" Muslims who condemn Islamic extremism.
It is simply too easy for you to continue to believe the lies of FFI and to continue the symbiosis of hatred and ignorance within your mind. You will continue to justify every statement and insult that leaves no moral grounding for Islam and then turn and blame all of the Muslims in the world for all of the worlds problems.
Kafir nations developed and implemented nuclear, chemical and biological weapons; a Kafir nation supported by other Kafir nations implemented the Nazi extermination of six-million jews; The Kafir welding of ideologies between kafir paganism and kafir Christianity formed the pathological mythomania that mushroomed into the self-assumed "Germanic-Aryan" regime of Nazism, and borrowed a symbol from another kafir nation, i.e. the swastika, to impel its masonic and maniacal symbological abortions leading to the declaration of war against all Semites, including Islam (despite the fact that Hitler often buttered his opposition prior to strike). It was Kafir ideologies that led to the extermination of Jews during the Inquisition, and Kafir lead Rome who built the ampitheaters and colliseums that made a sport of killing other kafirs (the Jews and later the pauline Christians), Kafirs lead and supported the Japanese expansion against Manchuria, the Pacific theater and the bombing of American ships by kamakaze attacks, including the attack on Pearl Harbor. Kafirs lead the march into Russia during Napoleon, thousands died; and then they did it again under the Kafir Adolf Hitler and millions died. Kafir Stalinist Russia exterminated 20-million jews, created their own Kafir-lead holocaust and then turned to expand and destroy the third world uprisings that stood in their way. Kafir presidents of the U.S. praised Kafir presidents of Soviet Russia, and the war between the two Kafir lead superpowers brought a hundred years of devastation and destruction to the mid-East and in kafir lead Vietnam and the British Kafirs pushed out the Arabs to build the Kafir lead zionist state of Israel only to perpetuat the kafir lead slaughtering during the attack on Qibya in 1952 by the Israeli forces under the Kafir Ariel Sharon.
So go ahead...sing the songs of love from these Kafirs and tell me that my enemy is Islam. You are like an olympiad running with a burnt out torch!
Does the mean that I agree with your apartheid terminology of kafir vs. muslim? Absolutely not...but you said the word in all of your hate-articles--so I figured I would speak your language.
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| Now you are calling all Muslims liars based upon a doctrine supported by 11-12% of the Muslim world population--the doctrine of deception or taqqiyah. So what kind of lies are you accusing us of when you can't even get your facts straight? You are playing the game from an illusion of having the moral high-ground, but the higher you step upon that horse, the easier it becomes to knock you down. You assume the apartheid imposed between the Kafirs and the Muslims by the fascist Kafirs of FFI who advocate the extradition of all Muslims from any Kafir controlled state; contrasting the "educated" Kafirs who think that taqiyyah is a mainstream Islamic doctrine and the "uneducated" Muslims who condemn Islamic extremism. |
And who is this us? Dariusism consists of you and who else? Would you like to check your history and see what apartheid was imposed upon the dhimmis by muslms around the world? Would you like to read the travels of Europeans in the Land of the beleivers and who relate what the status of a dhimmi was? The history of dhimmis has been well laid out by Bat Yeor. I have personally seen the treatment of the minorites in Pakistan, Bangladesh, Indonesia, Malaysia, Jordan and lebanon to know exactly how the kafirs are treated. You really need to get out of that mosque in the United States, and actually travel in Dar-ul-Islam. What the pinto beans would you know about Kafirs? You have been enjoying the freedom only offered by the Kafirs. Tell us one country in Dar-ul-Islam that offers freedom to the Kafirs?
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| It is simply too easy for you to continue to believe the lies of FFI and to continue the symbiosis of hatred and ignorance within your mind. You will continue to justify every statement and insult that leaves no moral grounding for Islam and then turn and blame all of the Muslims in the world for all of the worlds problems. |
You are a fine one to talk about a mind. You are an automaton to the rantings of a 7th century Barbarian. You cannot think even if you wanted to. Your first premise and your last conclusion will always be that Quran is error free. You are incapable of ever deviating from that. That is hard wired logic. The inbetween is merely sophistry to prevent you from seeing yourself. Look at yourself using that "all" so freely. Who is blaming anyone for "all" the problems? That is your propoganda. But that is to be expected because you are intellectually dishonest. I have never blamed "all" the muslims. I have many good decent muslim friends and relatives. You are not even a muslim. You are merely claiming to be one. Go to Dar-ul-Islam and see how well Dariusism is received.
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| Kafir nations developed and implemented nuclear, chemical and biological weapons; a Kafir nation supported by other Kafir nations implemented the Nazi extermination of six-million jews; The Kafir welding of ideologies between kafir paganism and kafir Christianity formed the pathological mythomania that mushroomed into the self-assumed "Germanic-Aryan" regime of Nazism, and borrowed a symbol from another kafir nation, i.e. the swastika, to impel its masonic and maniacal symbological abortions leading to the declaration of war against all Semites, including Islam (despite the fact that Hitler often buttered his opposition prior to strike). It was Kafir ideologies that led to the extermination of Jews during the Inquisition, and Kafir lead Rome who built the ampitheaters and colliseums that made a sport of killing other kafirs (the Jews and later the pauline Christians), Kafirs lead and supported the Japanese expansion against Manchuria, the Pacific theater and the bombing of American ships by kamakaze attacks, including the attack on Pearl Harbor. Kafirs lead the march into Russia during Napoleon, thousands died; and then they did it again under the Kafir Adolf Hitler and millions died. Kafir Stalinist Russia exterminated 20-million jews, created their own Kafir-lead holocaust and then turned to expand and destroy the third world uprisings that stood in their way. Kafir presidents of the U.S. praised Kafir presidents of Soviet Russia, and the war between the two Kafir lead superpowers brought a hundred years of devastation and destruction to the mid-East and in kafir lead Vietnam and the British Kafirs pushed out the Arabs to build the Kafir lead zionist state of Israel only to perpetuat the kafir lead slaughtering during the attack on Qibya in 1952 by the Israeli forces under the Kafir Ariel Sharon. |
All of the actions you mentioned, no kafir claimed that he was carrying out God's orders. That does not occur to the Kafirs. That is a speciality of the followers of that 7th century criminal. Your list just shows you how impotent Islam has made the muslims. They stopped participating in world events for over 500 years ago. Have not done a damn thing except slide further and further back into stone ages. Their big acheivement has been to use west's technology to start terror to regain the muslim Empire. Best of luck. The results of this idiotic venture is going to be evident soon enough.
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So go ahead...sing the songs of love from these Kafirs and tell me that my enemy is Islam. You are like an olympiad running with a burnt out torch!
Does the mean that I agree with your apartheid terminology of kafir vs. muslim? Absolutely not...but you said the word in all of your hate-articles--so I figured I would speak your language. |
You live in a black and white world. In the world of Kafirs there is color and there are shades. You would not understand the nunaced world of the kafirs. After all we have hundred of gods in the Kabba. Islam could not handle the diversity or the multicultralism even then. It had to reduce everything to stark black and white. You are either with the party of Allah or you roast for eternity. Why should I tell you islam is your enemy? You are a wannabe islamic mufti. You have dreams of making Dariusism the main sect of Islam. Personally, I hope you succeed. It is bound to better than what Dar-ul-Islam is stuck in at the moment. |
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Darius
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All of the actions you mentioned, no kafir claimed that he was carrying out God's orders.
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Bush said, "God told me to strike at al Qaida and I
struck them, and then he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did, and now I am determined to solve the problem in the Middle East. If you help me I will act, and if not, the elections will come and I will have to focus on them."
[Address to the Nation]
Fellow citizens, we'll meet violence with patient justice -- assured of the rightness of our cause, and confident of the victories to come. In all that lies before us, may God grant us wisdom, and may He watch over the United States of America.
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Hitler said, "God and I are One. Expressed simply in two identical sentences—His life is mine; my life is his. My work is his work, and his work my work." |
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Here is how true muslims are treating other muslims that they do not consider muslims. Sunnis of Pakistan no longer accord Shia's as muslims but condemn them as kafirs. In saudi arabia shia's are not muslims but listed as "claimants" to islam. The article below points to the deep roots that terror has sunk in pakistan. The author is one of the few intelligent muslims writing from Pakistan.
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http://www.thefridaytimes.com/_news8.shtml
from the July 2nd to the 8th issue.
Is Musharraf really getting after the murderers? People are now doubtful. He has been targeted by five organisations after 9/11 and the invasion of Afghanistan that followed it. At least two out of the five were crucial to the low-intensity conflict in Kashmir. Can one say that he has not killed them so far because he wants to use them again in Kashmir?
According to a police source in Karachi, there are 25,000 jihadis in Karachi who have taken training in Afghanistan. According to rumours an alleged development is that Punjab is acquitting Lashkar-e-Jhangvi terrorists standing trial there, and Karachi is receiving them back. Lashkar's dreaded leader Malik Ishaq is expected to be released by the Lahore courts in the near future
s Pakistan rid of its terrorists? Is General Pervez Musharraf determined to eliminate the remnants of jihad that turned terrorist? Since they have tried to kill him, will the general refuse to spare them if the Congress government in New Delhi forces him to revive the jihad in Kashmir? Is the jihad in Kashmir more important than his own life? Recent incidents demonstrate that the jihadis are continuing to kill the Shias in Pakistan quite freely. In some cases the police has been found involved in this Shia-killing spree. It has been trying to spare the sectarian killers of Al Qaeda by interpreting murders as family feuds or the doing of the ‘foreign hand’, India or American, in the latter case an extension of what is happening in Najaf in Iran.
After a recent Mughalpura-Lahore massacre of a family of Shias, a senior police officer declared that it was, Insha-Allah (sic!), not a sectarian crime. The family was shot to death and one member who was absent on the night of the execution was killed later after the police got him to agree to a cooked-up FIR. He was killed after he was allowed to circulate without police protection. The newspapers were prompted to call it ‘andha qatl’ (untraceable death) and editorials were written saying the police should somehow stop these ‘blind’ deaths which could not be attributed to anyone.
The fact that the walls of the house in which the murders took place were spray-painted with ‘kafir’ was ignored by some papers while speculating that someone intent on settling a vendetta had written the sectarian message as a red herring. Everyone ignored that fact that a few days earlier someone had blown up a Shia gathering at the Haideri Masjid in Karachi, which was definitely a part of the country-wide campaign against the hapless community. The police in Lahore simply forgot to make the connection between Quetta, Karachi and Mughalpura Lahore where there exists a strong extremist Sunni presence. According to ‘Jang’ (May 17), the suicide-bombers who blew up the ‘ashura’ procession in Quetta in March this year killing 47 Shias were from Lashkar-e-Jhangvi, Abdun Nabi and Hidayatullah. Both had trained in Afghanistan in the Al Qaeda-Taliban camps. They plotted the terrorist act in Nasirabad in the house of police constable, Ghulam Haider. The police got the first clue when they discovered a CD depicting the two suicide bombers in martyrs’ outfit.
Daily Nawa-e-Waqt wrote the same day that the CD was sent to the police by an unknown source in which the two terrorists confessed that they (in July 2003) had killed over 50 Shias at an Imambargah in Quetta. The Shia community of Quetta accused the police and antiterrorist force (ATF) too of firing on the Shias. The latest act of terrorism which killed a number of Shias in Karachi’s Haideri Masjid was carried out by a police constable Akbar Khan who was a member of Jaish-e-Muhammad (now a vague label implying linkage to Al Qaeda) and wanted to become a martyr by killing the infidels. In the murder of the American journalist Daniel Pearl in Karachi in 2002 also the involvement of an Al Qaeda-trained policemen had come to light.
Monthly Herald of June 2004, tells us that police constable Akbar Khan was recruited even though he had twice gone to Afghanistan to fight for Harkatul Mujahideen. Akbar had come under the influence of one Maulvi Amanullah, in a mosque near his house in Lyari neighbourhood, who brainwashed him into committing the Haideri Masjid massacre. The police caught hold of this Amanullah but mysteriously let him go. Another person Qari Ghulam Murtaza Baloch in Lyari was recruiting for Harkatul Mujahideen (another vague label implying linkage to Al Qaeda) and is now on the run. According to a police source quoted by Herald, there were 25,000 jihadis in Karachi who had taken training in Afghanistan. A worrying development was that Punjab was acquitting Lashkar-e-Jhangvi terrorists standing trial there, and Karachi was receiving them back. Lashkar’s dreaded leader Malik Ishaq was expected to be released by the Lahore courts in the near future.
Mahnaz Ispahani, of the New York-based think-tank, Council for Foreign Relations, wrote in her article ‘Religious Sword hangs over Pakistan’ in Los Angeles Times (22 May 2004): ‘Even as Musharraf bans certain groups and speaks out against sectarian violence, the militants flourish and the number of dead rises. One wants deeds as unflinching as his words. Only if he is able to put a full stop to the kind of Islamisation that makes a mockery of an inclusive Muslim homeland; only if hew eliminates the sectarian jihadi complex that feeds off Shias and other minorities’ lives, only then will Pakistan will have secure future. If Musharraf fails then the question “Who is a Pakistani Muslim?” could destroy all hope for a more progressive and peaceful Pakistan’.
Is Musharraf really getting after the murderers? People are now doubtful. He has been targeted by five organisations after 9/11 and the invasion of Afghanistan that followed it. The leaders of these organisations were either in confinement or allowed to remain at large. Those in confinement under state surveillance have been allowed to get out and disappear; at least one is out in the open, publishing extremely provocative statements in the Urdu press on a daily basis. At least two out of the five were crucial to the low intensity conflict in Kashmir. Can one say that he has not killed them so far because he wants to use them again in Kashmir? The two militias are offshoots of Al Qaeda and have served Osama bin Laden well in the past. The leaders, Masood Azhar (absconding) and Hafiz Saeed (making public statements) give rise to all kinds of speculations.
On 24 May 2004, President Musharraf announced in Islamabad that fanatics and extremists could not be allowed to rule Pakistan. He linked extremists to the terrorism of Al Qaeda saying he was ‘500 percent sure’ that Al Qaeda activists were in Pakistan and ‘1000 percent sure’ that they were terrorists. He revealed that Al Qaeda elements were operating from the Tribal Areas and were responsible not only for acts of terror inside Pakistan but in other friendly neighbouring states too, including China, whose most dangerous wanted man was recently killed in South Waziristan.
As if to underline what he said, the same day Karachi police was engaged in a shootout with six terrorists of Harkatul Mujahideen al-Alami. The men who were captured as a result of the encounter revealed that they were involved in the 2002 attempt on the life of President Musharraf and the bombing of the US consulate in Karachi. The encounter with the terrorists took place after the capture of their leader Kamran Atif who confessed to trying, unsuccessfully, to blow up the motorcade of the President in 2002. The six captured were in possession of hand-grenades, rockets, parcel bombs, and large amounts of explosives that they were going to use in a car-bomb attack on a Karachi prison to get their companions released.
Let us have look at what happened after 9/11 to the terrorists in Pakistan and what strategy they adopted to avenge the invasion of Afghanistan. Pakistani journalist Amir Mir writing in the foreword of A to Z of Jehadi Organisations in Pakistan by Amir Rana (Mashal, Lahore) informs us that a five-member ‘coalition’ of the jihadi organisations was launched in 2001 to avenge the invasion of Afghanistan. The coalition was called Brigade 313 (the number of warriors in the battle of Badr in the times of the Prophet PBUH) and comprised Lashkar-e-Tayba, Jaish-e-Muhammad, Harkatul Jihad al-Islami, Harkatul Mujahideen al-Alami and Lashkar-e-Jhangvi. The leader of Jaish-e-Muhammad, Maulana Masood Azhar, was allowed to disappear from Bahawalpur where he was under house-arrest before Jaish and Harkat al-Jihad al-Islami carried out the December 2003 attacks on the President in Rawalpindi. This was revealed by the captured leader of Lashkar-e-Jhangvi, Akram Lahori, and widely publicised in the national press. The leader of the Harkat al-Jihad al-Islami, Qari Saifullah, was likewise allowed to flee to the Middle East.
Available literature on Al Qaeda reveals close contacts between Lashkar-e-Tayba and Osama bin Laden. The Lashkar was set up by Hafiz Saeed, a lecturer at the Engineering University of Lahore, who was sent to Saudi Arabia for higher studies and later allowed to establish his headquarters near Lahore by the ISI. A follower of the Wahhabi tradition and a rebel from Pakistan’s Ahle Hadith parties, he had his stronghold in Faisalabad from where a top leader and ‘recruiter-trainer’ of Al Qaeda, Abu Zubaida, was most dramatically captured and handed over to the United States. Hafiz Saeed was kept in custody for some time by the government but later released. He is a part of the Brigade 313 sworn to kill President Pervez Musharraf, but he is not out in the open issuing statements against him almost on a daily basis. Everyone knows who wants to kill President Musharraf. But why is he allowing the ‘fanatic’ terrorist elements to roam around freely in Pakistan?
Jaish, together with Lashkar-Tayba, was the top ‘freedom-fighting’ organisation in Held Kashmir. Its leader Maulana Masood Azhar, a graduate of Karachi’s Banuri Masjid seminary, was on the side of Osama bin Laden in Sudan when the Pakistani troops were representing the UN in Somalia. We know that Osama bin Laden helped Somalian warlord General Eidid kill 24 Pakistani troops in Mogadishu after an ambush. In the book referred to above Amir Mir presents extracts from the Indian interrogation report after Azhar’s arrest in Delhi. Maulana Masood Azhar told the Indian interrogators that he was against the presence of the Pakistani troops in Somalia under the UN auspices. Lahore has always been home to the tumours that Pakistani mujahideen were among those who fired and killed the Pakistani troops in Mogadishu in 1993.
Maulana Azhar told the Indians that in Sudan he met a number of UAE-origin mujahideen who arrived in Sudan after being arrested in Peshawar and expelled by Pakistan. He stated, ‘These people continued to correspond with us, describing the plight of the Muslims in Somalia. They told us that Pakistani troops under United Nations forces had been placed at the central positions of trouble, guarding the life and property of Americans. If one American vehicle moved its armed guards were Pakistanis.’ Later Maulana Azhar wrote a booklet against the Pakistani troops in Somalia and distributed 5,000 copies of it in Pakistan. After his release from an Indian jail in the aftermath of the Kandahar hijack, Maulana Azhar was allowed to form a new militia, the Jaish, in 1999 and train his warriors in a new camp in Balakot. In 2001 Jaish attacked the Indian parliament and in 2003 almost killed President Musharraf in Rawalpindi.
The militias that would kill President Musharraf are the militias that have spearheaded the Kashmir jihad. They are all Deobandi-Wahhabi in character and aligned with Al Qaeda. If Pakistan is keeping its Kashmir options open, then these very militias are an important part of the jihadi equation. Pakistan has too many internal crises waiting to be addressed to allow space for a reconsideration of the foreign policy changes effected in the aftermath of 11 September 2001. President Musharraf should grasp the nettle of terrorism in Pakistan and get rid of it even if it means no option on the resumption of jihad in Kashmir. The administration is trying very hard to play down the sectarian violence of the jihadi militias to stave off public resentment. The Shia-killers of Brigade 313 are being secured against the stain of fratricide in Pakistan. The price for the ‘Kashmir option’ is very high and the people of Pakistan may finally refuse to pay it with their blood. |
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All of the actions you mentioned, no kafir claimed that he was carrying out God's orders.
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Include among the list the actions of the "kafir" George Bush attacking Iraq with bombs, killing 11,000 innocent Iraqi civilians.
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Bush said, "God told me to strike at al Qaida and I
struck them, and then he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did, and now I am determined to solve the problem in the Middle East. If you help me I will act, and if not, the elections will come and I will have to focus on them."
[Address to the Nation]
Fellow citizens, we'll meet violence with patient justice -- assured of the rightness of our cause, and confident of the victories to come. In all that lies before us, may God grant us wisdom, and may He watch over the United States of America.
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Hitler said, "God and I are One. Expressed simply in two identical sentences—His life is mine; my life is his. My work is his work, and his work my work." |
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Bush is a jackass who cannot finish a sentence correctly. And despite his jackass statement, US Senate did not authorise the war because God told it to. Bush is the only the president. Only congress can declare war. And I do not see any declaration of God told the US to go to war.
Hitler sound awfully like your muhammad. With those sentiments Hitler and clearly stepped beyond the traditions of the karfis of the west. Hitler is one reason that I come close to beleiving in reincarnation. He had to be Muhammad revisiting this planet.
Why don't you go to Dar-ul-Islam and teach the true Islam to the muslims who are on a killing spree? Please do all of the Dar-ul-harb a favor and let the kafirs wait to be roasted in the afterlife. |
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Darius
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Perhaps, Doubtless, but Hitler took orders from God--i.e. himself (or Himself)...and even had the concocted mythomania to prove he was the destined messiah to rule for a thousand years.
As for Bush and his regime, who stole the 2000 election and then bullied the congress and all of the public with talk of "mushroom clouds" and mayhem, and considering the fact that he had 100% backing by not only his avid Republipukes and Neo-con-men, his declaration was by proxy, though easily won in the name of "freedom and justice" for the Iraqi people. He may be a jackass, but he is a successful jackass who takes his marching orders from God-Almighty.
"Smoke 'em outta their holes--let the Lord roar from Zion" [read: British and American supported mid-East nuclear power]
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And then came the information age...
All those warring people searched their souls and came up with something better. Popes apologized to scientists, Slovenes and Italians opened their borders, Austros and Hungarians shared the power of their Danish windmills, Germans learned to dance the merengue, Russians chilled, and Rome said: "Okay, brothers of the other shore, build your mosque!"
And just like at home in the years 640, 740, 1040, 1240, 1540, and 1683 and 1974, in the year 2004, from the biggest Mosque of an amiably disposed Europe, as well as from Milan and Florence, and from Londen, Jakarta and Hoboken, Muslims "armed" with the so-called word of God, living the Pentium Infinity of all religions: thundered, clamored, moaned and entreatied for revenge, annhialation, blood... calling Einstein (and his daughters and sister-in-laws) apes, Mendelsohn (and his brother and cousins) rats!
And meanwhile our very own Koranic Wind Machine scholar, defends child marriages as sanctioned by God... and turns every which way, to Americans and Iranians and Blacks and Orientals and Indians and Hockey Players (and exquisite combinations thereof) twitching with rage, neck veins bulging, accusing: "Racists! Racists! Haters!"
And he madly flips through the pages of old and dusty tomes ripping out pages and pages of talking points describing the past and transcended sins of a Global community!
"You Kaffirs have been naughty too! Look!"
And he lists atrocities, using Himmler, Stalin, and Napoleon to buttress his belief that what the Angel Gabriel whispered to Mohammad was from God!... forgetting that those who followed and did not have the word of God, somehow, through compassion or wisdom, found their way to mutual forgiveness, while instead EVERY SINGLE COUNTRY where those who utter the sensless tautology "God is Great" is still deeply mired in scatalogical substance, ruled by tyrants, at war with bordering infidel neighbors or with infidels within, racked by poverty and illiteracy, divided and subdivided in tribes and clans, teeming with angry youths who see their brightest future in sacrificial death.
And while doing so he denounces the decadence of those who send rockets through the rings of Saturn, those who make memorable songs, those famous for the quality of their public hospitals, the ability to disseminate knowledge. While his Sharia justice hurls stones, others have found ways to fill chips and flecks of those very same stones with memory.
Ah Darius, you're flipping through the wrong book! The only pages that really matter are those to be written, the truths to be discovered... and in this, the tautologically inclined Allah is Great people have been remiss, not by happenstance but by predisposition... and now, as borders open, distance becomes meaningless, they find themselves pariahs in a strange new world, their hearts meaning well, but their morality anchored to barbarity.
Now their wisdom of the ages ayah per ayah reveals itself to be a hurdle to happiness, prosperity, achievement. They live both in pride and collective shame, keenly, poignantly aware that try as they will, their homilies of peace and brotherhood are no longer believed. They have lost the benefit of doubt, the poetic license, the suspension of disbelief that makes all religions but their own somehow "sacred" or respectable to all but the most militant atheists.
The old techniques are no longer of any avail. The homilies are met with guffaws, the links to ancient scholarship only add to embarrassment, the attempts to reinterpret evil produce convolutions that have no appeal.
Only the insults ring true, the sputtered threats, the boasts of rising numbers... for that and that alone has been the one true purpose, the one and only talent if Islam: invasion.
Power and not love or wisdom, is the only key with which to understand the Koran. The unwritten verse is: Take control!
That is how it deals with all matters, with children, women and men; with peoples of other faiths, with charity fasting... and even truth.
So cunning is Islam in this respect, it has even made Christian kindness and Eastern wisdom suicidal. |
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doubtless
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| Darius wrote: |
Perhaps, Doubtless, but Hitler took orders from God--i.e. himself (or Himself)...and even had the concocted mythomania to prove he was the destined messiah to rule for a thousand years.
As for Bush and his regime, who stole the 2000 election and then bullied the congress and all of the public with talk of "mushroom clouds" and mayhem, and considering the fact that he had 100% backing by not only his avid Republipukes and Neo-con-men, his declaration was by proxy, though easily won in the name of "freedom and justice" for the Iraqi people. He may be a jackass, but he is a successful jackass who takes his marching orders from God-Almighty.
"Smoke 'em outta their holes--let the Lord roar from Zion" [read: British and American supported mid-East nuclear power] |
Yes we know that from the success of Muhammad don't we?. Real success is that of Muhammad who outdid Hitler for killings and mayhem is still raging in his name 1400 or so years after his death. Read what is going on in Pakistan and how Muhammad message is resonating with the people. That is the difference. Here Bush can be called a jackass who stole the election.
Why don't you go to Pakistan and tell them of true Islam?
Why don't you go to Saudi Arabia and tell them of true islam?
Why don't you go to any Islamic country in the World and tell them about true Islam?
It is easy sitting in a country where you can call the president a jackass without fear of any knocks in the middle of the night, and talk about a true Islam that would get you knifed in less than 30 minutes in any mosque in Dar-ul-Islam. |
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Darius
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| Doubtlessly Wrong Again wrote: |
You live in a black and white world. In the world of Kafirs there is color and there are shades
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Bush said, "Every nation and every region now has a decision to make," Bush said. "Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists."
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Hitler says, displaying his black and white world, "Those who want to live, let them fight, and those who do not want to fight in this world of eternal struggle do not deserve to live."
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Other memorable quotes of Hitler sound suspiciously like FFI ramblings:
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"Our strategy is to destroy the enemy from within, to conquer him through himself." (cf. Ali Sina's concerning "the inevitable collapse" of Islam when it reaches "critical mass")
"The personification of the devil as the symbol of all evil assumes the living shape of the Jew [read: Muslim for FFI]"
"National Socialist Germany wants peace because of its fundamental convictions. And it wants peace also owing to the realization of the simple primitive fact that no war would be likely essentially to alter the distress in Europe... The principal effect of every war is to destroy the flower of the nation... Germany needs peace and desires peace!"
"Just as the world cannot live on wars, so people cannot on revolutions"
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The world of FFI is a black and white horror: either you are a Muslim and therefore a supporter of terrorism and should be exported from any Kafir state, or you are against Islam. If you even claim to be a moderate Muslim, you are quickly thrown into the fire with the rest of the "evil lecherous" Muslims.
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FFI critics of Islam say:
(1) Peaceful Muslims are ignorant Muslims.
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