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Reading the only 'Book' written by God: Life. God and Good being as related as can be...
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Catholic Bible, Book of Wisdom
Chapter 7 (again on Wisdom).
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22.- for Wisdom, the artificer of all, taught me. For in her is a spirit intelligent, holy, unique, Manifold, subtle, agile, clear, unstained, certain, Not baneful, loving the good, keen, unhampered, beneficent,
23.- kindly, Firm, secure, tranquil, all-powerful, all-seeing, And pervading all spirits, though they be intelligent, pure and very subtle.
24.- For Wisdom is mobile beyond all motion, and she penetrates and pervades all things by reason of her purity.
25.- For she is an aura of the might of God and a pure effusion of the glory of the Almighty; therefore nought that is sullied enters into her.
26.- For she is the refulgence of eternal light, the spotless mirror of the power of God, the image of his goodness.
27.- And she, who is one, can do all things, and renews everything while herself perduring; And passing into holy souls from age to age, she produces friends of God and prophets.
28.- For there is nought God loves, be it not one who dwells with Wisdom.
29.- For she is fairer than the sun and surpasses every constellation of the stars. Compared to light, she takes precedence;
30.- for that, indeed, night supplants, but wickedness prevails not over Wisdom. |
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Let's have a look on the Self...
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Jiddu Krishnamurti, on Wisdom...
--Wisdom is something that has to be discovered by each one, and it is not the result of knowledge. Knowledge and wisdom do not go together. Wisdom comes when there is the maturity of self-knowing. Without knowing oneself, order is not possible, and therefore there is no virtue.
Now, learning about oneself, and accumulating knowledge about oneself, are two different things... A mind that is acquiring knowledge is never learning. What it is doing is this: It is gathering to itself information, experience as knowledge, and from the background of what it has gathered, it experiences, it learns; and therefore it is never really learning, but always knowing, acquiring.
Learning is always in the active present; it has no past. The moment you say to yourself, ''I have learned,'' it has already become knowledge, and from the background of that knowledge you can accumulate, translate, but you cannot further learn.
It is only a mind that is not acquiring, but always learning -it is only such a mind that can understand this whole entity that we call the ''me,'' the self.
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''God is not something we can reach through a process of addings, but through a process of substracting.'' Meister Eckhart.
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Anthony deMello: Motion, not Action...
To the disciples who were always asking for words of wisdom the Master said,
--Wisdom is not expressed in words. It reveals itself in action.
But when he saw them plunge headlong into activity, he laughed aloud and said,
--That isn't action. That's motion.
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Anthony deMello, True Solitude...
Master: As the fish dies on the land, so you die in the midst of wordly business.
To live again, the fish returns to water. You must return to solitude.
Disciple: Must I therefore leave my business and go into a monastery?
Master: Certainly not. Hold on to your business and go back to your heart.
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Awareness is Awoken Conscience... To look without the screen of the self.
Without any formulation intervening. So to marvel at the Present time being...
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''I wonder if you ever looked at a bird.'' JK
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What the hell is Idolatry?
The more I saw many threads in faithforum, the more I've been convinced that idolatry is not so much made of the little statues or images, but that existed a much more pervasive idolatry: the one found that a God could have written books like the Quran or the Bible. This is what I call: Conceptual Idolatry. We will explore this furthermore...
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Catholic Bible, Book of Wisdom
Chapter 14.12-27, on Idolatry...
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12.- For the source of wantoness is the devising of idols; and their invention was a corruption of life.
13.- For in the beginning they were not, nor shall they continue forever;
14.- for by the vanity of men they came into the world, and therefore a sudden end is devised for them.
15.- For a father, afflicted with untimely mourning, made an image of the child so quickly taken from him, And now honored as a god what was formerly a dead man and handed down to his subjects mysteries and sacrifices.
16.- Then, in time, the impious practice gained strength and was observed as law, and graven things were worshiped by princely decrees.
17.- Men who lived so far away that they could not honor him in his presence copied the appearance of the distant king And made a public image of him they wished to honor, out of zeal to flatter him when absent, as though present.
18.- And to promote this observance among those to whom it was strange, the artisan's ambition provided a stimulus.
19.- For he, mayhap in his determination to please the ruler, labored over the likeness to the best of his skill;
20.- And the masses, drawn by the charm of the workmanship, soon thought he should be worshiped who shortly before was honored as a man.
21.- And this became a snare for mankind, that men enslaved to either grief or tyranny conferred the incommunicable Name on stocks and stones.
22.- Then it was not enough for them to err in their knowledge of God; but even though they live in a great war of ignorance, they call such evils peace.
23.- For while they celebrate either child-slaying sacrifices or clandestine mysteries, or frenzied carousals in unheard-of rites,
24.- They no longer safeguard either lives or pure wedlock; but each either waylays and kills his neighbor, or aggrieves him by adultery.
25.- And all is confusion-blood and murder, theft and guile, corruption, faithlessness, turmoil, perjury,
26.- Disturbance of good men, neglect of gratitude, besmirching of souls, unnatural lust, disorder in marriage, adultery and shamelessness.
27.- For the worship of infamous idols is the reason and source and extremity of all evil. |
Noticed the etymological closeness between ADULTERY and ADULTERATION.
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Excerpts from 'The Cure of Neurobiological Sickness of Religion' by reverend John S. Romanides, theologian for the Orthodox Church.
http://romanity.org/cont.htm
This from its part 3
--By the term religion, we mean each identification of the uncreated with the created and indeed each identification of representations of even Biblical thoughts and words about God with the uncreated also belongs to the world of idolatry and is the basis of all heresies to date. Biblical thoughts and words, when properly used, lead to glorification but are not themselves glorification. (...) He who has thus suffered glorification has now seen himself that there is no similarity whatsover between the uncreated and the created and it is ''impossible to express God and even more impossible to conceive it.''
The foundation stone of the fallacies of the Vaticanists and the Protestants is the fact that they followed Augustine who construe the glory of God revealed in both the Old and the New Testament to be indeed a creature, being brought into existence and passed out of existence with each revelation. (...)
The victims of the neo-Platonic mysticism of Augustine, i.e. the Carolingian Franks, their theological descendants and allies and certain so-called ''orthodox'', seek ecstasies of their intellect from the confines of matter and their bodies in order to have contact or union with immaterial reality or archetypes. Summarizong the Patristic Tradition of such endeavors, St Gregory Palamas calls this (...): ''The practise of making the noûs abandon, not the physical thoughts, but the body itself in order to come upon rational spectacles, is the strongest of the Greeks delusions and the root of every erroneous opinion, the invention of demons and the punishment which give birth to despair and is the offspring of madness.''
The uncreated glory of God is everywhere present saturating creation and therefore in each person and his heart. This uncreated glory's ruling, creative, providential and even purifying energy is already at work in each individual and in one's heart. However, not all respond in the same way to the uncreated purifying energy of God because of the short-circuit in the geart and one's environment. That one search like Augustine for God outside oneself is some kind of mystical experience by sending a supposedly immaterial soul into a world of immaterial archetypes is of course nonsense and, according to the Fathers, demonic.
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Same as the above, from its part 4
--This illumination of the heart neutralizes enslavement to the instinct of self-preservation and begins the transformation of possesive love into selfless love. This is the gift of faith to the inner person which is one's justification, reconciliation, adoption, peace, hope and vivification. (...)
Glorification is not a miracle, but the normal final stage of the transformation of selfish love into selfless love. (...) The Bible and dogmas are guides to and abolished during glorification. They are not ends in themselves and have nothing to do with metaphysics, either with -analogia entis- or with -analogia fidei-. This means that words and concepts which do not contradict the experience of glorification and which lead to purification and illumination of the heart and glorification are Orthodox. (...)
Franco-Latin, Western Civilisations and Islam have been consistently dominated by -the quest for happiness. It is this very sickness which has been at the center of all personal and social ills. When left unchecked it cannot but lead to conflict of interest at all levels of society and to the selfish exploitation of humans and environment by humans.
Modern sciences and technology have been forced into the service of this sickness as expressed in consumer economics which is saturating social structures and pushing exploitation of natural resources to the limit. Humanity has managed to survive past destructions caused by this sickness. However, our generation has the honor of being that part of human history which for the first time is witnessing to the ability of humanity to destroy itself completely either by nuclear event or by ecological contamination and disequilibrium.
Sheer self-interest for the world's survival and society well being may finally force a solution to the specter of either atomic or ecological destruction. Ascetical restraint is the obvious key. The Biblical messages that
1) The drive for happiness is the sickness of humanity and that
2) It's cure is purification, illumination and glorification,
Are the two truths of revelation which society may do well not to ignore. Otherwise, this planet Earth will end up like planet Mars in a state of ''actus purus happiness'' like that of the God of Augustine.
A link to a thread of mine on father J.S. Romanides (and the Orthodox Church):
-The Sickness of Religion and its Cure...
http://www.faithfreedom.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=14461
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The revolving moment of the New Testament is thus Jesus' Transfiguration and not it's most mythical birth, his 'miracles', or his allegorical crucifixion.
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Christ is strangely related with the chrysalis, through which a caterpillar becomes a butterfly.
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''Humanity has managed to survive past destructions caused by this sickness (religions as the pursuit of happiness). However, our generation has the honor of being part of the human history which is witnessing to the ability of humanity to destroy itself completely either by a nuclear event or by ecological contamination and disequilibrium.'' -Father JS Romanides.
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