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y19net

Joined: 23 Dec 2004 Posts: 100 Location: Canada
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Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 12:14 am Post subject: Is this man made ? |
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Hector

Joined: 24 May 2004 Posts: 7144 Location: Astroistan
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Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 12:20 am Post subject: |
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Yes, if you knew how the Quran was compiled you'd see Rashad Khalifa's proposition is nonsense. The Quran as we know it was put together by Zaid ibn Thabit as commanded by Caliph Uthman.
He put some verses in and left some out. In fact, Uthman set up a committee to decide which verses were abrogated so they could be left out. Some of these abrogated verses were indeed left out, but many were obviously left in.
Some verses were not included - such as the rajm and suckling verses. Their existence is testified by Umar and Aisha.
Zaid also put in a couple of verses, no - not the ones Khalifa took out, because some old guy told him were valid verses even though nobody could remember them. Uthman made a rule that at least 2 Muslims must remember a verse for it to be valid, but this old guy got around the rule somehow.
Thus it is amply clear the Quran is man-made. The original, older versions were burned by Uthman because they were different from the edition he commanded Zaid ibn Thabit to compile.
If so, then Rashad Khalifa's entire proposition is suspect. Remember he had to take out 2 verses to make his proposition fit. _________________ What sort of man would f*ck a sweet little prepubescent nine-year-old child who liked playing with dolls and swings? Mo the demon Pedophile. |
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firesnake

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Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 5:45 am Post subject: Re: Is this man made ? |
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is that edip yuksel site? lol..  _________________ "you can married a little girl up 6 years old.. (in Islam), you can tried f*ed her, after she got menstruation (9-11 years old) .. .. " Monassjazz
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y19net

Joined: 23 Dec 2004 Posts: 100 Location: Canada
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Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Hector wrote: |
Yes, if you knew how the Quran was compiled you'd see Rashad Khalifa's proposition is nonsense. The Quran as we know it was put together by Zaid ibn Thabit as commanded by Caliph Uthman.
He put some verses in and left some out. In fact, Uthman set up a committee to decide which verses were abrogated so they could be left out. Some of these abrogated verses were indeed left out, but many were obviously left in.
Some verses were not included - such as the rajm and suckling verses. Their existence is testified by Umar and Aisha.
Zaid also put in a couple of verses, no - not the ones Khalifa took out, because some old guy told him were valid verses even though nobody could remember them. Uthman made a rule that at least 2 Muslims must remember a verse for it to be valid, but this old guy got around the rule somehow.
Thus it is amply clear the Quran is man-made. The original, older versions were burned by Uthman because they were different from the edition he commanded Zaid ibn Thabit to compile.
If so, then Rashad Khalifa's entire proposition is suspect. Remember he had to take out 2 verses to make his proposition fit. |
Do you know which story of 911 is the right one. ?
That is funny when you reject Quran then using Hadith and histories which was scribed by kings, khalifahs, rulers, imams servants.
With access to all these media tools history is written according to those have power. and now you are trying to reject Quran referring to fair tale stories.
You better have patience and look at the file before repeating conjectures.
Look at this file may help you understand what I am asking then answer the topic not nonsense.
Simple to understand –impossible to imitate.
http://y19.net/challenge.ppt _________________ Visit here for more |
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gupsfu

Joined: 06 Jul 2004 Posts: 7919
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Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 7:17 pm Post subject: |
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| y19net wrote: |
| Simple to understand –impossible to imitate. |
Yes, the stupidity of it is impossible to imitate. _________________ |
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y19net

Joined: 23 Dec 2004 Posts: 100 Location: Canada
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Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 7:19 pm Post subject: Re: Is this man made ? |
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[quote="firesnake"]
is that edip yuksel site? lol.. [/quote |
You need new glasses it is Y19.net not 19.org Click on Y to see my point.
But I asked a question and i appreciate if you or others can answer straightforward  _________________ Visit here for more |
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y19net

Joined: 23 Dec 2004 Posts: 100 Location: Canada
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Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 6:28 am Post subject: |
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| gupsfu wrote: |
| y19net wrote: |
| Simple to understand –impossible to imitate. |
Yes, the stupidity of it is impossible to imitate. |
Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 7:17 pm
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baba wawa

Joined: 30 Dec 2005 Posts: 1440 Location: Enjoying the sweet sweet video of Zarqawi's home blowded up
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Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 6:29 am Post subject: |
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| I'm sorry, what? |
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y19net

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Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 6:50 am Post subject: |
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| baba wawa wrote: |
| I'm sorry, what? |
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baba wawa

Joined: 30 Dec 2005 Posts: 1440 Location: Enjoying the sweet sweet video of Zarqawi's home blowded up
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This is even less understandable. I'm supposed to use a magnifying glass on a rope?
Can't you just summarize what you're trying to say instead of hiding behind a "go tothis site to see all!"? |
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Alkaliel
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y19net

Joined: 23 Dec 2004 Posts: 100 Location: Canada
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Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 4:59 pm Post subject: |
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This is even less understandable. I'm supposed to use a magnifying glass on a rope?
Can't you just summarize what you're trying to say instead of hiding behind a "go tothis site to see all!"? |
I do not have to fill up this post with what already exist on this screen. There is no expense for clicking on those sites Have patience and read those sites without prejudices, anger and hate, then GW you would grasp truth and fact.
Is time to examine your parent’s belief but do remember what God has advised you .Peace. _________________ Visit here for more |
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Phedippedes
Joined: 20 Mar 2004 Posts: 8092 Location: Not on FFI anymore
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Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 5:31 pm Post subject: Re: Is this man made ? |
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Yes, all numerology (double maths) is the work of (inventive) men. |
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piscohot

Joined: 21 Sep 2004 Posts: 3928
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Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 8:05 am Post subject: |
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| If this is not made by man, could it have been made by the devil? |
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baba wawa

Joined: 30 Dec 2005 Posts: 1440 Location: Enjoying the sweet sweet video of Zarqawi's home blowded up
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Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 2:15 pm Post subject: |
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| y19net wrote: |
| baba wawa wrote: |
This is even less understandable. I'm supposed to use a magnifying glass on a rope?
Can't you just summarize what you're trying to say instead of hiding behind a "go tothis site to see all!"? |
I do not have to fill up this post with what already exist on this screen. There is no expense for clicking on those sites Have patience and read those sites without prejudices, anger and hate, then GW you would grasp truth and fact.
Is time to examine your parent’s belief but do remember what God has advised you .Peace. |
Do you understand this? You are making no sense in this post.
I'm not trying to be rude. I'm trying to point out that you have, in effect, walked into a room, made a statement that can't be understood, and then you've remained standing there, waiting for our response.
I simply do not understand what you want or what you're trying to say. |
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