Al-Kitaab(The Universal Truths)and Al-Hadees.

Abudosama · Joined: 18 Feb 2004 Posts: 1126 Location: Planet Earth

IMRAN

babushree · Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2004 11:16 pm Post subject:

Abudosama · Joined: 18 Feb 2004 Posts: 1126 Location: Planet Earth

BUSH BURAIE The FORGER.

lilith · Joined: 08 Mar 2004 Posts: 821

I'm sure that without your father and mother you would not be here.
If you disagree I think a fatwah would be nice.
All muslims are forbidden to fornicate because creating life is the privilege and prerogative of Allah.

So don't you dare touch a woman, you blasphemer. :-D

A bit more serious.
Jadaïsm and christianity allready found out that religion should have no basis/ say so/ influence in science. How did they find out? Because it put stupidity major, on the map and stopped all progress. And youngsters now just have to look at the middle eastern world to find proof for this.
Neutrality of state and schooling is the only basis for a combination of all sorts of religions and cultures. Laïcité as the french say.
One should not take religious books serious, especially not if they can be compared to f.i. some 4th century papal dictate. It's sentiment and a bit of history but people have progressed and should at least understand the meaning of logic, metaphore, anology and scientific progress. And this applies as well to muslims or should they be kept in the dark and exempt from progress. (well the oil isn't for ever, and all they managed to do is live rich and waste the money in stead of building up their society and making the desert fertile again f.i.. All they manage is destruction and the creation of more desolate land. Half of sudan has disappeared. They are stupuid, out of touch with the world, spoiled, irresponsible and they have the perception that a bit of work is to low for their status. If they like suicide so much than I suggest that they kill themselves of right now, so as to do do world environment and ecology a big favour. effing dessertlovers as the garden of Allah. :(X
Muslims and world environment do not mix. They couldn't care less, let alone understand. Because the qur'aan didn't say so :P )

Abudosama · Joined: 18 Feb 2004 Posts: 1126 Location: Planet Earth

#EANF#

babushree

lilith · Joined: 08 Mar 2004 Posts: 821

Well A. I should have said procreation. Just trying to make a point here that you can also take religion a bit too serious.
In another forum we are concerned with the emptiness of christianity and the islam. They can tell you exactly who god is but really haven't got a clue about the main message. Why they are supposed to remember god.
So people guess but it simply doensn't compute with the content of new testament and Qur'aan.
So empty bottles produce the loudest noice.

Abudosama · Joined: 18 Feb 2004 Posts: 1126 Location: Planet Earth

FILITH

lilith · Joined: 08 Mar 2004 Posts: 821

Again we see fuctional analphabetism. Lilith is the nick.
And we see moral decline since big characters signify shouting which is bad form in nettiquette.
You do bring up verses, turn them into controversial issues and start a silly discussion that has nothing whatsoever to do with dialogue and the topic at hand.
Control yourself and show some responsibility for your own actions.
If your memory is anything like what you portray with my nick than we can safely conclude that that part of the arguement is false and that goes for the next one also. And yes their are people who can recite the qur'aan but who haven't got a clue as to the meaning of the sounds.
The qur'aan as a thruthfull book.
And there are even special names for verses that have been changed, for the once that have been declared obsolete and for the new ones taking their place, and look f.i. to the way intoxicating substance is slowly introduced from an advise to a stern law.
And you really dislike woman. Which makes you a silly twit of low class.
So muslims pray and revere a stone that was renamed allah and the place of the former god. Ilah being the arab for god. Sounds quite heathen to most of us.Trowing stones at the devil like it's midevil times.
Reading quraan and hadith makes for a satanic mix that most muslims find quite shocking when confronted for the first time.
Anybody can recognise their son. what sillyness is introduced here.
And what would be the the truths that all human beings do?

Ariel · Joined: 09 May 2004 Posts: 5451 Location: The Netherlands.

lilith · Joined: 08 Mar 2004 Posts: 821

Thats the one , but who now a days is familiar with vessels(barrels) so bottles was my way of updating. with-wit as is common sense.

Abudosama · Joined: 18 Feb 2004 Posts: 1126 Location: Planet Earth

FILITH or LILITH

Phedippedes · Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2004 10:02 pm Post subject:

Ariel · Joined: 09 May 2004 Posts: 5451 Location: The Netherlands.

lilith · Joined: 08 Mar 2004 Posts: 821

Why the hell should you be hurt. You are not exactly presenting a proper arguement for statements you make and all I see you doing is trying to discredit the opponent or in the best case the person that you should be in dialogue with.
And since you know I'm a woman and since we had a topic on your obsession on pervers sexual matters, you haven't progressed one bit from the dirty mind. On the contrary, it seems to have no limt in your case.
And you are not two persons even though you have a son, but it all comes from the same mind.
There's no excuse.
You jump on me for things that others could and would at least try to do away with a proper arguement.
So stick to the subject and use google or whatever to get background on your statement so you can provide a proper arguement and also use it to understand were the other person is coming from.
Educate yourself on all the different law systems in the west and all the different humanistic and religious interpretation. Read the bible and the torah (in a bible you'll find the part that is called OT that makes a start) and then come back. This is prejudice due to lack of education. There's simply no beginning in addressing all the errant statements.
So who decides what apostase is when all of you have excluding views on each other. And what else but quraan and hadith should they and we take as guideline.We got the wrong quraan. :-D So your a sunni, qutb, wahabi mix up?

Hi ariel,
no apology nessecary. I quite apreciate your contribution. It makes a really nice change. And believe you me, anger makes me sharper especially faced with dimwits that start an arguement but have no way of finishing it, and just spam the forum with harassment(he's hurt 8-| :-D )
keep posting, I look forward to it.
By the way your posting has a certain familiarity. Reminds me of the state of the railway and other subjects.
nice to see you again.