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Always_Kafir
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| More on Aisha's Marriage and its acceptance by the Arab culture back then: |
Don't forget you are defending so-called final messenger who has been regarded as Highly Morale, Highly Gentle, Highly Exemplary man to entire human kind. You are not defending an ordinary man. The least expected from you is fairness.
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ia786
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| Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 12:12 pm Post subject: |
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Shiva mischievously wrote:
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you must have a young female child [7-14years] as a daughter;sister;cousin or niece.
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Would any of you approve that they would be married to an older man,and once that child is in the custody of the older male sexual intercourse is very likely to occour? |
The Will of God be done, I don't have any younger sisters or anything like that. If I did, I would firstly declare God is Great. Would I approve of her marrying an older man? mmm..maybe, depends on the person and if all parties agreed. Well in this case the person is the Prophet Mohammad, I would stand up and declare God is Great, I would approve if all parties agreed. Ya RasullAllah how much are you Worth!!!
God is Great!
I posted a link to an article earlier, the Islamphobes are selecting certain parts to satisfy their own hate/fear of Islam and Muslims, the Will of God be Done, everyone here is free to read it.
http://www.central-mosque.com/compreligion/Aisha.htm
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I am not always this polite when I reply to a muslim as I am extremly anti-islam.So in the future you do not have to be polite to me,as I live amongst muslims,and politeness to a kaffir is very?????
BTW I am not Hindu |
My beloved Hindu Goddess, why can't you be polite. You are anti-Islam, so be it that is your opinion. At the end of the day we are all Humans, can't you see that? We have feelings too 
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| Be kind. Be compassionate. Be honest. Be sincere. Be truthful. Be bold. Be pure. Be wise. Be virtuous. Enquire: 'who am I'? Know thy-Self and be free. |
This is the quotation you use, it says be kind and compassionate my beloved Shiva.
Shiva you are similar to your own posts in so many ways. You are a waste of space, you don't mean anything. You have said the Quran should be banned, right??? Go for it old man, give it your best shot. I wish you luck.
'The Islamic Scriptures can be considered dangerous...'
While you are trying to ban the Quran, please also try banning the Bible and the Torah you two faced pig. Shiva you left Christianity because of something that has nothing to do with the religion. You stated you left Christianity when you discovered the crimes that the Christian people committed. Why don't you explain this to the people here.
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| Be honest. Be sincere. Be truthful. Be bold. Be pure. Be wise. Be virtuous |
Please Shiva, don't be a two faced boar, you want the Quran banned, then that must mean you want the Bible and Torah banned.
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| Only yesterday these Muslims were so vocal to say that we couldn't prove their paedophile prophet had sex with the 9-year old Aisha, but where are they now? They run away faster than anyone, I must say. |
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| Don't hodl your breath...within days they'll proclaim they've won that part of the debate as well...or they'll just blame the Jews, the Bible or the US. |
You have got to realise that this Lion of God is using this site for his own purposes. I haven’t posted in a while and you think I have run away, my dear Gupsfu how could I leave you guys, I need your help. My life is not based on this fantasy forum, it may be for you. That is your choice. I can't stay here and play with you all the time, I have other things to do.
Phedippedes I have been claiming God is Great many times, I have exposed the people here many times. The people reading this will know. The Islamaphobic extremists know very little about my religion. You are in no position to say anything.
It was only a while ago the people here only saw one thing from the Islamaphobic fanatics.
The Islamaphobic extremists were forced to surrender and claim that God is Great. As soon as my back is turned they begin to boast about how I ran away!!!
The people here just embarrass themselves sometimes, you have been exposed many times, its so embarrassing some times I can't bare to look
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| I know they'll come back. They always do. |
Gupsfu I never left, I'm here to learn about you, I'm here to discover how you think. I will use this for my own cause.
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| ia786 I hope you believe me now when I told you that this site is pre-occupied by Zionist Jews who are going under many disguises. They crawl out of the woodwork when some truth is exposed about the Talmud or Israel. |
Bernard you were right. I don't think that all the people here are Zionists fanatics but I think I know who is. There was this one thread about the War criminal Ariel Sharon, well a few of these 'Atheist, Free thinkers' were trying to crawl up Sharon's backside. Very interesting!! 
The people here seem to love Israel with a passion. Well I have said something that upset the people here. Israel has no right to exist according to Jewish Law.
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| Rabbi Amram BlauThe Jewish People are absolutely opposed to any injury against the Arab nation. The Arab nation never harmed the Jewish People until the advent of Zionist nationalism. The Jewish People are commanded by the Torah to seek the peace of the governments where they are citizens, and not to rebel against any nation, G-d forbid, especially when this concerns the Holy Land, to which we are forbidden to engage in mass immigration. |
http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/
http://www.jewsnotzionists.org/
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[The Torah] forbids us to strive for the reunion or possession of the land by any but spiritual means
Rabbi S. R. Hirsch |
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Not via our desire did we leave the land of Israel, and not via our power will we come back to the land of Israel.
Rabbi S.D. Schneerson |
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[Zionists] want a state in order to make Jews into heretics.
Rabbi C. Soloveichik |
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The Zionists have attacked the center point of Judaism.
Rabbi V. Soloveichik |
The words of the saintly Rabbi Joel Teitelbaum, author of the VAYOEL MOSHE (in Hebrew, written in 1958) ring clearly when we view events in the Middle East:
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"...if we place all the immodesty and promiscuity of the generation and the many sins of the world on one side of the scale, and the Zionist state on the other side of the scale by itself, it would outweigh them all. Zionism is the greatest form of spiritual impurity in the entire world. They are polluting the entire world. They have polluted the Jewish people with their heresy, Heaven help us. It is no surprise why G-d's anger comes down from heaven. It is necessary to repent and escape from them more than from a lion who is chasing a person to kill him."
"It has been explained that before the coming of the Messiah this regime will come to an end, as Messiah cannot come any other way, since the Zionist state holds up the redemption of the world. We need G-d's mercies that divine intervention should bring about the end of the state. May G-d have mercy on us all." |
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| Stop squealling like a pig being led to the slaughter |
Shiva my beloved Hindu Goddess, who are you trying copy here old man, Please be inventive, failure to do so may cause this heated exchange between you and me to escalate and my beloved Shiva, you may have to run away like Geoff. He begged for sympathy at me feet, I let him off and he crawled back to JW like a little baby, he came here raging and fuming, insulting me, he left knowing that the Lions of Islam can never be defeated.
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shiva
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A quick review of Aisha's life, during and following Muhammad's death, shows that she exhibited some psychological problems:
1) She was extremely jealous of some of Muhammad's other wives.
From Bukhari, 5.164:
Narrated 'Aisha: I did not feel jealous of any of the wives of the Prophet as much as I did of Khadija (although) she died before he married me, for I often heard him mentioning her, and Allah had told him to give her the good tidings that she would have a palace of Qasab (i.e. pipes of precious stones and pearls in Paradise), and whenever he slaughtered a sheep, he would send her women-friends a good share of it.
2) She conspired with other wives and lied to and deceived Muhammad.
From Bukhari 7.192:
Narrated 'Ubaid bin 'Umar:I heard 'Aisha saying, "The Prophet used to stay for a long while with Zanab bint Jahsh and drink honey at her house. So Hafsa and I decided that if the Prophet came to anyone of us, she should say him, "I detect the smell of Maghafir (a nasty smelling gum) in you. Have you eaten Maghafir?' " So the Prophet visited one of them and she said to him similarly. The Prophet said, "Never mind, I have taken some honey at the house of Zainab bint Jahsh, but I shall never drink of it anymore." So there was revealed: 'O Prophet ! Why do you ban (for you) that which Allah has made lawful for you ... If you two (wives of Prophet) turn in repentance to Allah,' (66.1-4) addressing Aisha and Hafsa. 'When the Prophet disclosed a matter in confidence to some of his wives.' (66.3) namely his saying: But I have taken some honey."
3) She was a ringleader in the first Muslim civil war... the first time Muslims took arms up against other Muslims. According to the Hadith, Muslims went to hell for fighting in support of her. In the "Battle of the Camel", thousands of Muslims were killed fighting against each other. Aisha's side lost, and she was basically put under house arrest by Ali.
From Bukhari 9.204:
Narrated Al-Hasan:(Al-Ahnaf said:) I went out carrying my arms during the nights of the affliction (i.e. the war between 'Ali and 'Aisha) and Abu Bakra met me and asked, "Where are you going?" I replied, "I intend to help the cousin of Allah's Apostle (i.e., 'Ali)." Abu Bakra said, "Allah's Apostle said, 'If two Muslims take out their swords to fight each other, then both of them will be from amongst the people of the Hell-Fire.' It was said to the Prophet, 'It is all right for the killer but what about the killed one?' He replied, 'The killed one had the intention to kill his opponent.'"
5.116:
Narrated Abu Wail:When 'Ali sent 'Ammar and Al-Hasan to (the people of) Kufa to urge them to fight, 'Ammar addressed them saying, "I know that she (i.e. 'Aisha) is the wife of the Prophet in this world and in the Hereafter (world to come), but Allah has put you to test, whether you will follow Him (i.e. Allah) or her."
So not only did Aisha help cause the death of thousands of Muslim men, she is pictured as acting against the very will of Allah.
One can only feel sorry for Aisha. Robbed of her childhood, becoming a bride to a man who had a large sexual appetite for many women, Aisha felt she had to at times lie to and deceive Muhammad to keep his attention. She ends up after her marriage to him, left all alone, forbidden to re-marry. Later, she helps lead the first Muslim civil war, causing the death of thousands of Muslims, who according to Islam, would go to hell for fighting each other. Finally defeated, she is not executed but ordered to live the rest of her days, basically under house arrest, in Medina.
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gupsfu
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| Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 12:33 pm Post subject: |
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| You have got to realise that this Lion of God is using this site for his own purposes. I haven’t posted in a while and you think I have run away, my dear Gupsfu how could I leave you guys, I need your help. My life is not based on this fantasy forum, it may be for you. That is your choice. I can't stay here and play with you all the time, I have other things to do. |
Muslim, do not assume I was only talking about you.
You're not the only Muslim on this forum.
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| Gupsfu I never left, I'm here to learn about you, I'm here to discover how you think. I will use this for my own cause. |
No, the only reason you're here is because you can't stand the embarassing truths we reveal about you stupid religion and your paedophile prophet.
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shiva
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| Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 12:42 pm Post subject: |
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ia786
yes or no???/
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gupsfu
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ia786 (a Muslim), why don't you muster your courage and answer shiva's question?
Been asking you lot that question for quite a while.
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you must have a young female child [7-14years] as a daughter;sister;cousin or niece.
Now my question to you is
Would any of you approve that they would be married to an older man,and once that child is in the custody of the older male sexual intercourse is very likely to occour?
Just answer a straigth-foward YES/NO and nothing more
If any of you decide not to answer this question,or try to elabrorate your answer, then this will count as a yes |
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ia786
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| Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 12:48 pm Post subject: |
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ia786, Lion of God wrote:
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| Gupsfu I never left, I'm here to learn about you, I'm here to discover how you think. I will use this for my own cause. |
A very nervous and traumatised Guspfu wrote:
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| No, the only reason you're here is because you can't stand the embarassing truths we reveal about you stupid religion and your paedophile prophet. |
My dear Gupsfu, you don't know anything. Old man, you don't know me, if you really knew who I was tears would roll down your face, you would stand up this instant and declare God is Great.
Many Islamaphobes have called it quits and surrendered.
The Islamaphobes here are insignificant and irrelevant. I am using you for my own purposes, I am using you so I can be stronger for Islam. The Will of God be Done. The Islamaphpbes come here because this is the only place they are accepted. You are scared and this is the only place you feel free, come on Gupsfu you can't fool me. You have been challenged many times for live debates in front of audiences, yet you run away like two faced dogs.
You can write articles, you can talk about your misconceptions, just realise as you do Millions worldwide are declaring God is Great.
You have nothing and you know it, the World has rejected you. You are scared and lonely. That is why you are here.
The Will of God be Done.
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gupsfu
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| Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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| My dear Gupsfu, you don't know anything. Old man, you don't know me, if you really knew who I was tears would roll down your face, you would stand up this instant and declare God is Great. |
All I need to know is that you're a Muslim, the rest is irrelevant.
Now answer shiva's question please.
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ia786
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| Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 12:58 pm Post subject: |
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Dear Guspfu, since you haven't questioned my claims I assume you agree that you are both irrelevant and insignificant.
Shiva, please remove that filthy boar's fat from your eyelids and read my earlier post.
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gupsfu
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| Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 1:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Dear Guspfu, since you haven't questioned my claims I assume you agree that you are both irrelevant and insignificant. |
Well your assumption is wrong, Muslim. As soon as I got to where it says "you would stand up this instant and declare God is Great." in your post, I did not have the stomach to continue reading.
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| Shiva, please remove that filthy boar's fat from your eyelids and read my earlier post. |
Translation: Shiva, please don't ask me something like that. It embarasses me and my paedophile prophet.
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yeezevee
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ia786: yet you run away like two faced dogs.
..... God is Great. |
What is happening ia786? two faced dogs and God or Gods??.. what is there in two faced dogs, they are God's creation aren't they?? who knows God may be in that two faced DOG?..
Well, when do we realize God is different, the concept of God is different, The Mohammad's God/Allaha is clearly way out of the line when HE?SHE?IT? sends the SURHAS down the throat of Mr. Mohammad .. The messenger., to sleep with 9 year olds., To marry a stepson's wife because the messenger gets smitten by the beauty of his wife, to force a Jewish girl after killing her husband., All is done in the name of Allaha..
What is there in TWO FACE DOGS? dear ia786? When God can send the messege to a fellow so that he can consumate the 9 year old little girl, So then That God can send the messege through the TWO FACED DOG., Can't HE?? corret me if I am wrong dear ia786.
with best regards
yeezevee
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ia786
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| Well your assumption is wrong, Muslim. As soon as I got to where it says "you would stand up this instant and declare God is Great." in your post, I did not have the stomach to continue reading. |
So you admit you are an irrelevant and insignificant coward. Please read:
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The Islamaphobes here are insignificant and irrelevant. I am using you for my own purposes, I am using you so I can be stronger for Islam. The Will of God be Done. The Islamaphpbes come here because this is the only place they are accepted. You are scared and this is the only place you feel free, come on Gupsfu you can't fool me. You have been challenged many times for live debates in front of audiences, yet you run away like two faced dogs.
You can write articles, you can talk about your misconceptions, just realise as you do Millions worldwide are declaring God is Great.
You have nothing and you know it, the World has rejected you. You are scared and lonely. That is why you are here. |
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humandecency
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ia786: yet you run away like two faced dogs.
..... God is Great. |
What is happening ia786? two faced dogs and God or Gods??.. what is there in two faced dogs, they are God's creation aren't they?? who knows God may be in that two faced DOG?..
Well, when do we realize God is different, the concept of God is different, The Mohammad's God/Allaha is clearly way out of the line when HE?SHE?IT? sends the SURHAS down the throat of Mr. Mohammad .. The messenger., to sleep with 9 year olds., To marry a stepson's wife because the messenger gets smitten by the beauty of his wife, to force a Jewish girl after killing her husband., All is done in the name of Allaha..
What is there in TWO FACE DOGS? dear ia786? When God can send the messege to a fellow so that he can consumate the 9 year old little girl, So then That God can send the messege through the TWO FACED DOG., Can't HE?? corret me if I am wrong dear ia786.
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Well said yeezevee.
.........................................
a short summary of this thread.
http://www.faithfreedom.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=145266#145266
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gupsfu
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| Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 1:18 pm Post subject: |
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| ia786 (a Muslim) wrote: |
| So you admit you are an irrelevant and insignificant coward. |
LOL!!! What have I admitted? You're hilariously desperate to insist I have admitted what you want me to admit, but that doesn't mean I have.
Wow!!! So this religious mumbo jumbo is supposed to make me a coward? I'm sorry Muslim, but you should keep your Islamic mentality inside your mosque. You only make yourself look stupid if you say that anywhere else.
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shiva
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| Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 1:37 pm Post subject: |
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ia786
yes or no???
No blah blah blah
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| Please be inventive, failure to do so may cause this heated exchange between you and me to escalate |
Another threat
Wowie zowie
I have stated before that my tactic is to insult muslims and islam and it will not take long for them to expose themselves and the lying and murderuos ways of islam,
A few years ago we welccmed you to or lands even to the extent that we took action against groups that opposed you being our land,you are to young and stupid to remember Mr Enoch Powell,the N/F the skinheads. A few few years ago a site like this did not exsist.Why is there so much hate now towards muslins,what is it that has brought about this hate.
I will tell you,It is the actions of your co-religionists and the arroggance of fookers like you who have hardly done a days wourk in their whole life
And as compassion towards muslim is concerned I have about as much compassion in me as to the compassion that bali bombers-your co-religionists showed towards 10 friends[muslim BTW] of mine that where blown away
I wish that all the sh!t you post here and any-where else comes to life and bites your head off |
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