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My Personal Testimony of Not-Quite-apostasy, but Close to it
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Ali Sina



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Truthseeker30

I suggest you write your story in detail telling the readers what attracted you to Islam, what was your experience in Islam, what kind of hypocrisy you experienced by Muslims and finally how you got rid of it. It is the details that make a story interesting.

I am happy you found your way finally.
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Kantipala



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I look forward to reading it. I am sorry I thought it sounded like you were looking for the deeper nature of humanity, and islam was the only thing you found. With out islam you were totaly lost. I have met a lotta spiritual people all across the globe in my travels. Some so cool that I remember like it was yesterday even after several years.
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Truthseeker30



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ali Sina wrote:
Hi Truthseeker30

I suggest you write your story in detail telling the readers what attracted you to Islam, what was your experience in Islam, what kind of hypocrisy you experienced by Muslims and finally how you got rid of it. It is the details that make a story interesting.

I am happy you found your way finally.


I'm no stranger to conversion stories. I'm embarassed to say I submitted a conversion story to two different Islamic websites after taking shehada - too embarassed to even go look for them.

Anyway, my only problem is that I tend to get long-winded sometimes so I have no problems with detail. But where do I send it when I'm finished writing it?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am curious too! And welcome your entry as the next in a long list. Welcome back!
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Ali Sina



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 12:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Truthseeker30 wrote:

I'm no stranger to conversion stories. I'm embarassed to say I submitted a conversion story to two different Islamic websites after taking shehada - too embarassed to even go look for them.


That makes it even better. Make sure you include the links to those testimonies so Muslims see it.

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Anyway, my only problem is that I tend to get long-winded sometimes so I have no problems with detail. But where do I send it when I'm finished writing it?


You can publish it here and I will copy it from here or you can email it to me.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 12:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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lol
indeed, my friend.

Thanks, but I think your welcome is unnecessary. I merely called myself a Muslim for three years. I never left humanity.

Hey, that's just my natural reaction upon hearing someone leaving Islam.
Anyway I'm glad that you made it official.
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Blue



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 2:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Truthseeker30 wrote:
I'm no stranger to conversion stories. I'm embarassed to say I submitted a conversion story to two different Islamic websites after taking shehada - too embarassed to even go look for them.


I have one out there, too... but I'll never tell where it is. When I go see it I can't get past the first few words.
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Paris Bontrager



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 9:30 pm    Post subject: Re: My Personal Testimony of Not-Quite-apostasy, but Close t Reply with quote

Long story short, a combination of being completely fed up with Christianity and information from A&E and PBS.

There are many forms and interpretations of Christianity. I am curious about what your experience was with what particular form or interpretation. Also, I would be interested in what experience you had reading the New Testament; were you a believer who read it?

My experience with Christianity as a teenager was gotten from reading the scriptures and attending Church as an Episcopalian, and praying, and being a part of a youth group briefly, and studying the Bible in the group and at Sunday school. I am not a Christian now, but look back on the experience somewhat fondly. What strikes me is that I see no relationship between my experience then, and the 'Christianity' I see on TV religious programs. I would have never become a Christian if that had been my experience with it. And I can see why many Muslims have contempt for Christianity because the only 'Christianity' many of them know is the one they have seen on TV. I also would not have become a Christian if I had experienced it in some of the fundamentalist congregations I have attended with friends. The spirituality I experienced as a teenager seems lacking in many of these experiences, but perhaps it is just my attitude now as an adult non-believer. I really feel that Christian spirituality is gotten from reading the Bible (New Testament) and praying, but there is no necessary spirituality to be found in any particular church one might attend, though if you have the individual spirituality, or if you are in the 'right' church for you, then it can be experienced there, too. But I really don't see how any Christian or seeker of its deeper meaning can really experience the actual religion, or have a true, spiritual experience of the religion, without reading the New Testament periodically.

Paris


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome, Truthseeker- great sign off quote too, go The Who!!
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Truthseeker30



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ali Sina:

I won't include any links with my story because the story reveals too much information about who I am. (And it should be done sometime next week.)

Paris:

Christianity indeed has its good points, but I turned my back to it for the same reasons I turned my back to Islam: Few clear definitions of how it's supposed to be followed, and the fact that I felt like an automaton. I have good an bad things to say about both religions.

Aussie:

Anyone who doesn't like The Who has no soul!
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Jacquelina



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Truthseeker30 wrote:
eduardo:

I DO believe there's a way to achieve a higher sense of spirituality. But after following two different religions and finding nothing but hollow, automatic practice in both, I'm beginning to think that all religions just might be hogwash after all.

I've always prided myself on being a man of science and logical, rational thinking, first and foremost. I never believed that the world we live in is merely a bridge to the next life, whatever that may be. I've always believed we have a responsibility to learn and grow as human beings and to leave the world in better shape then it was when we came into it.

This is the way Islam was introduced to me, and the primary reason I became a Muslim.


There are better religious movements for this sorta thing - Reform Judaism and Unitarianism-Universalism are good ones for the folks who like to combine Science, Religion, free-thinking, and Ethics. Those two are quite commendable strains of religion from my point of view. Don't worry about hellfire/ brimstone just yet - most of what religions say about it is likely speculation, and this includes "revelations" of any stripe or sort.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Truthseeker30 wrote:
Few clear definitions of how it's supposed to be followed, and the fact that I felt like an automaton.


I agree. Clockwork religion is boring, it's unnatural, and it sucks. People should be closer to their own hearts and what they like and respect, and should make up their own religions as they go along. Peace Be Upon Us All.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is good in most religions, but it is blended with bad and evil, it is compromised by baseness of man as much as it can be elevated by good in man. Some are more compromised by the base than others, I shall mention no names in this respect, but it´s not a billion dollar question

But no faith or religion or anything, has such level of good that it makes any other way of thinking and believing, superflous.
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PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2005 5:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Truthseeker30 wrote:
gupsfu wrote:

Welcome to humanity, Ts30!



lol
indeed, my friend.

Thanks, but I think your welcome is unnecessary. I merely called myself a Muslim for three years. I never left humanity.


This appears to be often the case.

It makes me think.....how many of those 1.2 billion people who claim to be muslims, are just like you? How many muslims whom you know, feel the same way, but are afraid to talk about it, so you dont know who they are?

Islam is a house of cards....
Once more poeple like yourself come out, others will be encouraged to follow.

Thanks for your testimony, and congrats on your acknowledgement of apostasy
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PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2005 11:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How did this site contribute to your apostasy ?

Are you actively recommending this site to others, including to your local press ? Are you active in spreading the truth on Islam or are you just content and basking in your own apostasy, without trying to save others ?


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