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Mersk

Joined: 16 Jul 2004 Posts: 5764
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Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 8:36 am Post subject: |
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| Cassandra wrote: |
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And the Islamic World hasn't even exercised it's power at all. The countries of Egypt, Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Libya, Iran, Morocco, Algeria, Pakistan, Turkey and so on, are sitting back and allowing this disgusting massacre to continue.
The Islamic World has the undeniable ability to become the leading world state, to become the world's superpower. Over 70 percent of Muslims are advocating this alternative, and if Israel continues to bomb and massacre Muslims, our patience will also be stretched dangerously thin. |
You tried that in two wars where the Islamic world ganged up on poor little Israel, and you got your asses well and truly whopped.
1.2 billion Muslims are no match for 7 million Jews. |
Sure, 1.5 billion Muslims are no match for 7 million Jews Cassandra
If you say so. Cassandra, I have 2 questions to ask you:
1. Are Jews superhuman?
2. Are you mentally unstable?
Please answer these 2 questions, then get back to me.
Thanks, |
Its the Quran that is protecting the Jewish STATE because the world shall bear witness to what the Quran expects from Muslims in their wanton destruction of everything Jewish and Christian and Kaifaroon. _________________ MAM = Muslims acting as Muslim Affairs Ministers for Modk. HAM = Last Profit of Islam. |
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The Infamous

Joined: 04 May 2008 Posts: 328
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Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 8:39 am Post subject: |
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| Mersk wrote: |
| The Infamous wrote: |
| Cassandra wrote: |
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And the Islamic World hasn't even exercised it's power at all. The countries of Egypt, Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Libya, Iran, Morocco, Algeria, Pakistan, Turkey and so on, are sitting back and allowing this disgusting massacre to continue.
The Islamic World has the undeniable ability to become the leading world state, to become the world's superpower. Over 70 percent of Muslims are advocating this alternative, and if Israel continues to bomb and massacre Muslims, our patience will also be stretched dangerously thin. |
You tried that in two wars where the Islamic world ganged up on poor little Israel, and you got your asses well and truly whopped.
1.2 billion Muslims are no match for 7 million Jews. |
Sure, 1.5 billion Muslims are no match for 7 million Jews Cassandra
If you say so. Cassandra, I have 2 questions to ask you:
1. Are Jews superhuman?
2. Are you mentally unstable?
Please answer these 2 questions, then get back to me.
Thanks, |
Its the Quran that is protecting the Jewish STATE because the world shall bear witness to what the Quran expects from Muslims in their wanton destruction of everything Jewish and Christian and Kaifaroon. |
I don't go on the computer often and when I do, I don't enter FaithFreedom very much. But I do know one thing; I don't like you. I don't wish to receive emails notifying me that you replied to what I had to say. Don't reply to me. Don't speak to me. Maybe I would take you seriously if I could actually UNDERSTAND what you say. But I can't understand you, so get lost.
Go Away Mersk _________________ "It was not until the Western nations broke away from their religious law that they became more tolerant, and it was only when the Muslims fell away from their religious law that they declined in tolerance" |
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Mersk

Joined: 16 Jul 2004 Posts: 5764
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Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 8:42 am Post subject: |
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You don't have to understand me! We don't understand the idiocy that is Islam either. You can always run back to the cave you come from. But come back and bring a Muslim friend or two. _________________ MAM = Muslims acting as Muslim Affairs Ministers for Modk. HAM = Last Profit of Islam. |
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Haik Monsieur

Joined: 17 Sep 2006 Posts: 2393 Location: FFI
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Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 8:50 am Post subject: |
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There will come a time when there will be an ISLAMIC state ruling the Holy Land and all Muslim lands, and where Jews, Christians and Muslims would live together in peace and stability, under Sharia Law.
Islam is the solution to the problems occurring in the Middle East, not secularism |
I think you forgot to mention this Sahih Hadith when declaring Jews and Muslims would live together in peace and stability under Sharia Law.
Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews. [Sahih Muslim.Book:41, Hadith :6985]
It does not look like living in peace to me. And do not forget this happens on hour and the belief in it is one of the pillars of your IMAN (FAITH)
Next, Christians living in peace with Muslims: I think you can bring us your Caliph Omar's rule for instance. How the Christians were treated under him (Under glorious Islamic Sharia)? Just a few pages back, I brought his covenant with Christians. After reading it, you may preach us again.
Go on dear Muslim, get us more;
KhaliL _________________ ________________________________ |
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junaid_the_gentle
Joined: 29 Aug 2008 Posts: 48 Location: Montreal
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Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 10:22 am Post subject: What a pity |
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| Haik Monsieur wrote: |
I think you forgot to mention this Sahih Hadith when declaring Jews and Muslims would live together in peace and stability under Sharia Law.
Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews. [Sahih Muslim.Book:41, Hadith :6985] |
Thanks dear Khalil… you indeed favor us a lot by reminding so many good toils of Islamic literary works. And thanks so much for the latest reminder of the Gharqad too…
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Next, Christians living in peace with Muslims: I think you can bring us your Caliph Omar's rule for instance. How the Christians were treated under him (Under glorious Islamic Sharia)? Just a few pages back, I brought his covenant with Christians. After reading it, you may preach us again.
Go on dear Muslim, get us more;
KhaliL |
So, according to your thesis one should come to the conclusion that this world will be peaceful only if it is dominated – or rather in euphemistic words – ruled by Christians or Jews nonetheless… very nice of you.
Why don’t you recollect the anguish and tortures faced by the poor and pitiable souls of Africa or the Indian sub-continent under the regime of the Christian Brits?? Of course, sources are far more easily available; that too for a highly sophisticated guy akin you, I’m pretty sure gathering information about confrontations that took place just 100 years back will be very easy relatively than tracing the Ahadith or Muslim texts for incidents aged more than 1400 years!!!
Were (and are) the Jews or Christians really peace-loving people? Quote from your heart – aren’t the Prophet-killers NOT people-killers right now? Doesn’t the cry or pain of poor Muslim mothers or parents of the Middle-east fall into your ears?? What a pity!!!
Let peace prevail,
Yours lovingly,
Junaid. |
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ygalg

Joined: 27 Jul 2005 Posts: 7401 Location: israel
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Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 10:23 am Post subject: |
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I see no threat to civilized world in my suggestion. on the contrary I aiding to establish a fair deal these who concern to live to live and these who concern over 72 black eyed virgins to received them. |
The theory is a worry ygalg becaue it is a blueprint.
You are proposing a road map that is simply not acceptable.
An alibi for all those who seek to avail their actions, including terrorism upon a civilised community.
Who defines the voluntary actions of which you speak?
Do the victims of 9/11 fall within the sphere of your definitions?
Geddit?
Don't go there. It does not help anyone. |
have the towers where 5000 victims died, used as military base and be provocative? were rockets launched from the towers? _________________ </islam>
Hajj Amin al-Husseini:
"Kill the Jews wherever you find them"
Qur'an 2:191:
"And kill them wherever you find them"
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ghostbusting
Joined: 12 Dec 2008 Posts: 120
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Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 10:31 am Post subject: |
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| Who is on whose border is matter of conjecture. |
Is it?I have not heard of a country called Palestine existing here before Israel which Jews supposedly stole from somebody,to date I haven't met anyone who could verify this,perhaps you can be the first? |
You might be able to read from this American source:
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Have you been wondering about the conflict in the Middle East and why it has been going on for so long? Learn more about Palestine and see if you can make some connections.
Palestine refers to the area of land along the east coast of the Mediterranean Sea from Gaza in the south to southern Lebanon, then west to the areas bordering the Jordan River. It also has been known as the land of Canaan or the Holy Land. In the Bible it is known as the “land that is rich with milk and honey” (Deut 6:3; 26:9), or as the Promised Land, because God promised to give the land to Abraham and his descendants (Gen 17:7,8; Num 34:1-12). Abraham’s descendants, the tribes of Israel, made this land their geographical and spiritual homeland after years of slavery in Egypt and after wandering in the desert for forty years.
The region of Palestine was originally called Canaan and the people who lived there before the Israelites were called Canaanites. It came to be known as Israel after the twelve tribes conquered the land around 1200 B.C. The region came to be known as Palestine in the time when the Greeks ruled the region beginning in about 333 B.C. The name “Palestine” comes from “Philistines,” the name of the people who settled in the narrow strip of land along the southeastern part of the Mediterranean coastline some time after 1200 B.C. (Take a look at this map to get a better sense of the area.) Today, “Palestine” refers to the area covered by Israel, Gaza, and Jordan. |
http://www.americanbible.org/brcpages/palestine
By the way, Israelis must be grateful to the United States for ever for getting them a place.
At the same time, this article would indeed be helpful:
http://www.bintjbeil.com/E/occupation/ameu_bible.html |
yeah ..... as a matter of fact .....
ISRAELITES have been wandering all around the world to have a country ....
these treacherous hypocrites have been trying their luck in PALESTINE for the same ......  |
Yes, about twenty million have not yet returned to the 'holy' land.
What worries me is this. Hamas sounds defiant and they are not going to cave in. Killing biblical style can go on.
Also, Israel is forgetting again the military prowess of Hizbullah, which they showed and proved in 2006. If they start from the North, then Israel gets screwed up.
The ragheads have already showed, frustrated and screwed up US military in Iraq and the Afghan ragheads are still screwing US, UK and Nato troops.
Right now, the picture is not clear but it looks like a mess deliberately created for the incoming US President Barak bin Obama.  _________________ Ali Sina to me (abridged):"If you don't like someone's tone don't read their comments. I do that and I have kept my peace for seven years."
I like this advice. Ali, it is really working and I am keeping my peace. |
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Haik Monsieur

Joined: 17 Sep 2006 Posts: 2393 Location: FFI
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Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 10:40 am Post subject: Re: What a pity |
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| Haik Monsieur wrote: |
I think you forgot to mention this Sahih Hadith when declaring Jews and Muslims would live together in peace and stability under Sharia Law.
Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews. [Sahih Muslim.Book:41, Hadith :6985] |
Thanks dear Khalil… you indeed favor us a lot by reminding so many good toils of Islamic literary works. And thanks so much for the latest reminder of the Gharqad too…
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Next, Christians living in peace with Muslims: I think you can bring us your Caliph Omar's rule for instance. How the Christians were treated under him (Under glorious Islamic Sharia)? Just a few pages back, I brought his covenant with Christians. After reading it, you may preach us again.
Go on dear Muslim, get us more;
KhaliL |
So, according to your thesis one should come to the conclusion that this world will be peaceful only if it is dominated – or rather in euphemistic words – ruled by Christians or Jews nonetheless… very nice of you.
Why don’t you recollect the anguish and tortures faced by the poor and pitiable souls of Africa or the Indian sub-continent under the regime of the Christian Brits?? Of course, sources are far more easily available; that too for a highly sophisticated guy akin you, I’m pretty sure gathering information about confrontations that took place just 100 years back will be very easy relatively than tracing the Ahadith or Muslim texts for incidents aged more than 1400 years!!!
Were (and are) the Jews or Christians really peace-loving people? Quote from your heart – aren’t the Prophet-killers NOT people-killers right now? Doesn’t the cry or pain of poor Muslim mothers or parents of the Middle-east fall into your ears?? What a pity!!!
Let peace prevail,
Yours lovingly,
Junaid. |
Hello Junaid_the_gentle,
I was answering to the one who wrote Jews and Christians can live peacefully under Sharia. I did not put forward any form of governing system on my own. To me secular laws are way way way waaaaaaaaaay superior to your god's Sharia laws. If you have disagreement on this, please put forward your arguments.
When reinstating the Caliphate, Muslims dream of an empire that was once ruled by Caliph Omar. What is wrong in bringing up examples from Omar's life to counter it?
Regards
KhaliL _________________ ________________________________ |
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ghostbusting
Joined: 12 Dec 2008 Posts: 120
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Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 10:49 am Post subject: |
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| have the towers where 5000 victims died, used as military base and be provocative? were rockets launched from the towers? |
It was extremely crude and idiotic of the Israeli Government to carry out bombing.
Instead of showing the biblical Joshua mentality, all it had to do was to set up a defence system like Patriot or some other system to destroy the tin cans coming.
Don't tell me it does not have that ability. _________________ Ali Sina to me (abridged):"If you don't like someone's tone don't read their comments. I do that and I have kept my peace for seven years."
I like this advice. Ali, it is really working and I am keeping my peace. |
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myxtic

Joined: 21 Aug 2008 Posts: 31
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Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 10:52 am Post subject: |
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I think you forgot to mention this Sahih Hadith when declaring Jews and Muslims would live together in peace and stability under Sharia Law.
Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews. [Sahih Muslim.Book:41, Hadith :6985] |
dont try to portray the JEWS as poor innocent down-trodden oppressed ppl
the HADITH you have quoted speaks of the PREDICTION of the FINAL "BATTLE" b/w the MUSLIMS & the JEWS ....
so let us analyse the complete picture then .....
the Jews would be supporters of Dajjal :
SAHIH MUSLIM Book 041, Number 7034:
Anas b. Malik reported that Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: The Dajjal would be followed by seventy thousand Jews wearing Persian shawls.
Dajjal would spread chaos & mischief :
SAHIH MUSLIM Book 041, Number 7015:
He (Dajjal) would be a young man with twisted, contracted hair, and a blind eye. I compare him to 'Abd-ul-'Uzza b. Qatan. He who amongst you would survive to see him should recite over him the opening verses of Sura Kahf (xviii.). He would appear on the way between Syria and Iraq and would spread mischief right and left.
so Dajjal & his followers would be eradicated for the better of this world :
now quote your HADIS here .....
& tell me ...... whats wrong with that ..... ??
thanxXx ..... !! _________________ * Satan trembles, when he sees the weakest Saint upon his knees *
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Balls_of_Titanium_1
Joined: 09 Dec 2008 Posts: 104
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Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 10:53 am Post subject: |
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All Israelis are reserves, which means none of them is actually civilian. This is what Hamas has been saying all along. The terrorist state of Israel must be done away with and a Palestine must be created in its place for peace to reign in the region and for such barbaric Israeli attacks on humanity to stop. |
Just to confirm, you disagree with the Arab Peace Process?
Right? |
Yes, because it can't bear any fruit. Why don't Saudi Arabia or Egypt give part of their land to the European Jews? Will they agree to it? Then why expect the same of Palestinians? Why should they give up their land for imported Jews to settle in?
Had Israel behaved in a sensible manner and recognized its wrongs and sought to correct it, its existence could have been overlooked. However, this is just expecting too much, isn't it? An entity born out of crime cannot be expected to not continue to be criminal. It is in its very nature. Therefore, compromise with Israel is impossible. May it take centuries, but Israelis must always live in fear and must always be made to pay for their crimes against Palestinians, and must eventually be removed from the Palestinian land. |
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ghostbusting
Joined: 12 Dec 2008 Posts: 120
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Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 10:55 am Post subject: |
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| Mersk wrote: |
| The Infamous wrote: |
| Cassandra wrote: |
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And the Islamic World hasn't even exercised it's power at all. The countries of Egypt, Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Libya, Iran, Morocco, Algeria, Pakistan, Turkey and so on, are sitting back and allowing this disgusting massacre to continue.
The Islamic World has the undeniable ability to become the leading world state, to become the world's superpower. Over 70 percent of Muslims are advocating this alternative, and if Israel continues to bomb and massacre Muslims, our patience will also be stretched dangerously thin. |
You tried that in two wars where the Islamic world ganged up on poor little Israel, and you got your asses well and truly whopped.
1.2 billion Muslims are no match for 7 million Jews. |
Sure, 1.5 billion Muslims are no match for 7 million Jews Cassandra
If you say so. Cassandra, I have 2 questions to ask you:
1. Are Jews superhuman?
2. Are you mentally unstable?
Please answer these 2 questions, then get back to me.
Thanks, |
Its the Quran that is protecting the Jewish STATE because the world shall bear witness to what the Quran expects from Muslims in their wanton destruction of everything Jewish and Christian and Kaifaroon. |
I don't go on the computer often and when I do, I don't enter FaithFreedom very much. But I do know one thing; I don't like you. I don't wish to receive emails notifying me that you replied to what I had to say. Don't reply to me. Don't speak to me. Maybe I would take you seriously if I could actually UNDERSTAND what you say. But I can't understand you, so get lost.
Go Away Mersk |
Great style and a great avatar. _________________ Ali Sina to me (abridged):"If you don't like someone's tone don't read their comments. I do that and I have kept my peace for seven years."
I like this advice. Ali, it is really working and I am keeping my peace. |
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ghostbusting
Joined: 12 Dec 2008 Posts: 120
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Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 10:57 am Post subject: |
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| Balls_of_Titanium_1 wrote: |
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| Balls_of_Titanium_1 wrote: |
All Israelis are reserves, which means none of them is actually civilian. This is what Hamas has been saying all along. The terrorist state of Israel must be done away with and a Palestine must be created in its place for peace to reign in the region and for such barbaric Israeli attacks on humanity to stop. |
Just to confirm, you disagree with the Arab Peace Process?
Right? |
Yes, because it can't bear any fruit. Why don't Saudi Arabia or Egypt give part of their land to the European Jews? Will they agree to it? Then why expect the same of Palestinians? Why should they give up their land for imported Jews to settle in?
Had Israel behaved in a sensible manner and recognized its wrongs and sought to correct it, its existence could have been overlooked. However, this is just expecting too much, isn't it? An entity born out of crime cannot be expected to not continue to be criminal. It is in its very nature. Therefore, compromise with Israel is impossible. May it take centuries, but Israelis must always live in fear and must always be made to pay for their crimes against Palestinians, and must eventually be removed from the Palestinian land. |
Excellent response and Amen to that. _________________ Ali Sina to me (abridged):"If you don't like someone's tone don't read their comments. I do that and I have kept my peace for seven years."
I like this advice. Ali, it is really working and I am keeping my peace. |
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Balls_of_Titanium_1
Joined: 09 Dec 2008 Posts: 104
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Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 10:58 am Post subject: |
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| All Israelis are reserves, which means none of them is actually civilian. This is what Hamas has been saying all along. The terrorist state of Israel must be done away with and a Palestine must be created in its place for peace to reign in the region and for such barbaric Israeli attacks on humanity to stop. |
yes,the kids and the women are also reserves,and so are all the elderly. |
Yes, of course. If a Palestinian living in the same residential block as does a Hamas member, or foolish enough to join the local police for earning a living, or cheeky enough to demand independence from foreign rule and vote the way he or she wishes, is fair game, then why not? What is your problem when the table are reversed?
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I know all about what you think already,useless parrot,keep on dreaming. |
Dreams do come true.
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Why don't you put your money where your mouth is and come to Gaza for some Jihad,after all a fatwa was issued on the subject,I can guarantee you that you will get the opportunity to go to Allah's eternal sex orgy very soon after. |
Wishing death to your opponent shows that you are scared of him.
I am flattered. |
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charleslemartel

Joined: 29 Nov 2007 Posts: 1071
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Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 11:01 am Post subject: |
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Instead of showing the biblical Joshua mentality, all it had to do was to set up a defence system like Patriot or some other system to destroy the tin cans coming.
Don't tell me it does not have that ability. |
Instead of showing the typically stubborn Muslim mentality, all Hamas has to do is to stop firing rockets (tin cans?) in to Israel. Why don't you go preach to Hamas about shedding its stupidity and stop expecting the army of angels Allah is supposed to send to help them?
Thank you for not calling the Hamas rockets flowers as even tin can can hurt. _________________ Happy New Year to Everyone
Fear is the most powerful emotional tool, it can turn off the areas of the brain responsible for rational thought.
Is that why Muslims can't be rational? |
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