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piggy
Joined: 13 Feb 2004 Posts: 6372 Location: Godwana
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Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 9:45 pm Post subject: |
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| I dont care who financed Obama's education. |
I do care .............. the slimy Obama is very likely to owe and allegiance or favor to some unsavory character who might intend harm to the system of things .............. for a person in the position of POTUS to be influenced by such a character(s) ........ this is something to care about. |
I agree with you on this point, Mr. Piggy, 100%. I find Mr. Canuck's lack of concern about political corruption disturbing.
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Bush was helped by Osam family to start up oil company.
Bushes were pimps to Osama. |
So what! (if he was)
Does this make it OK for Obama to be influenced by potential enemies to USA system? ............... does this give cause to be indifferent?
For you maybe ....................... not me! ................... I care!
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Sally

Joined: 17 Nov 2007 Posts: 438
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Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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| piggy wrote: |
| crazy canuck wrote: |
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| piggy wrote: |
| crazy canuck wrote: |
| I dont care who financed Obama's education. |
I do care .............. the slimy Obama is very likely to owe and allegiance or favor to some unsavory character who might intend harm to the system of things .............. for a person in the position of POTUS to be influenced by such a character(s) ........ this is something to care about. |
I agree with you on this point, Mr. Piggy, 100%. I find Mr. Canuck's lack of concern about political corruption disturbing.
Steed |
Bush was helped by Osam family to start up oil company.
Bushes were pimps to Osama. |
So what! (if he was)
Does this make it OK for Obama to be influenced by potential enemies to USA system? ............... does this give cause to be indifferent?
For you maybe ....................... not me! ................... I care!
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It doesn't make it okay, it just makes you suspect, because you were apparently never worried about Bush's connections when he was elected. Now, by "you", obviously I don't mean you as an individual I know nothing about your opinion of Bush, or your history of posting on the subject.
When I say "you", I am using it in the general sense of the people in control of this web site. Was the front page plastered with articles detailing the connections between the Bush and Bin Laden families back then? Was it detailing all Bush Jr.'s other obvious deficiencies?
I would dearly love to see links to it, if so. _________________ " |
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piggy
Joined: 13 Feb 2004 Posts: 6372 Location: Godwana
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Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 10:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Sally wrote: |
| piggy wrote: |
| crazy canuck wrote: |
| Brave Steed wrote: |
| piggy wrote: |
| crazy canuck wrote: |
| I dont care who financed Obama's education. |
I do care .............. the slimy Obama is very likely to owe and allegiance or favor to some unsavory character who might intend harm to the system of things .............. for a person in the position of POTUS to be influenced by such a character(s) ........ this is something to care about. |
I agree with you on this point, Mr. Piggy, 100%. I find Mr. Canuck's lack of concern about political corruption disturbing.
Steed |
Bush was helped by Osam family to start up oil company.
Bushes were pimps to Osama. |
So what! (if he was)
Does this make it OK for Obama to be influenced by potential enemies to USA system? ............... does this give cause to be indifferent?
For you maybe ....................... not me! ................... I care!
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It doesn't make it okay, it just makes you suspect, because you were apparently never worried about Bush's connections when he was elected. Now, by "you", obviously I don't mean you as an individual I know nothing about your opinion of Bush, or your history of posting on the subject.
When I say "you", I am using it in the general sense of the people in control of this web site. Was the front page plastered with articles detailing the connections between the Bush and Bin Laden families back then? Was it detailing all Bush Jr.'s other obvious deficiencies?
I would dearly love to see links to it, if so. |
Sally.
The point I am making is that CC is indifferent about the present but has concerns about the past, citing the past as a bench-mark for acceptance of dodgy behavior in present issues.
I don't give a rats-arse about what's on the FFI main page or who is/was 'suspect' due to some other issues, which it appears has been raised by you for the purposes of your agenda which I suspect is to snipe on FFI and/or Ali Sina.
It would be nice if you would kindly cease in de-railing & exploiting this thread in an attempt to defame FFI or it's principles. ............. there are other threads available for that and too for looking into the Bush/BinLaden allegations.
Now back to the theme of this thread the i.e. the slimy tactics &the suspect Obama.
Obama is 'suspect' and additionally has 'suspect' associations & possible allegiances & indebtedness to people who are enemies of the USA and it's constitution. ............... it's a dangerous brew .. before he gets inaugurated he must be checked-out THOROUGHLY.
If you are truly concerned about what is 'suspect' then look at those Obama issues for which there are VERY GOOD REASONS for concern & to be suspicious.
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Brave Steed

Joined: 21 Nov 2004 Posts: 3285 Location: Here, like you.
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Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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When I say "you", I am using it in the general sense of the people in control of this web site. Was the front page plastered with articles detailing the connections between the Bush and Bin Laden families back then? Was it detailing all Bush Jr.'s other obvious deficiencies?
I would dearly love to see links to it, if so. |
I don't think you'll find many here, Ms. Sally. The difference between GWB and BHOSO is that GWB was (and still is) what the Russian communists called liberals in the west, a "useful idiot", a naive tool who was gung-ho about granting a Dubhai company ownership of port docks on the coast of America itself(!) because they came in with the highest bid and they were not on the terrorist list but a legal company, while BHOSO is, I suspect, an active collaborator with the likes of Khalid Al Mansour and his Saudi Arabian masters as well as Communists, the two evils working together to empower this man so he can do their bidding.
You will, however, find plenty of criticisms against GWB over at http://WND.com and http://jihadwatch.org and http://dhimmiwatch.org (the Dubai ports deal being just one example).
Steed _________________ Find the daughter killer Yassir Said
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crazy canuck
Joined: 20 Mar 2004 Posts: 6391
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Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 11:27 pm Post subject: |
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| piggy wrote: |
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| I dont care who financed Obama's education. |
I do care .............. the slimy Obama is very likely to owe and allegiance or favor to some unsavory character who might intend harm to the system of things .............. for a person in the position of POTUS to be influenced by such a character(s) ........ this is something to care about. |
Oh yes Australian woman deeply cares about corruption of US politics.Who financed whose education!!Who got campaign contribution from who.
You care F all!! You care about race and fundie angle.
Oh yes you cant stand man of color in white house!!
So worried about COLB that argues about whats COLB, whats birth certification, what is birth certificate, whats long one , whats short one and what original what copy , whats vault certificate
For your information same COLB is used by all frigging white folks to get their passports!! But coloroed guy whose mom was white ( enough ground to castrate black partner and stome white woman )woman drives racists mad..Join Hawaii politics to address the issue of COLB. |
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piggy
Joined: 13 Feb 2004 Posts: 6372 Location: Godwana
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Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 11:35 pm Post subject: |
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| crazy canuck wrote: |
| piggy wrote: |
| crazy canuck wrote: |
| I dont care who financed Obama's education. |
I do care .............. the slimy Obama is very likely to owe and allegiance or favor to some unsavory character who might intend harm to the system of things .............. for a person in the position of POTUS to be influenced by such a character(s) ........ this is something to care about. |
Oh yes Australian woman deeply cares about corruption of US politics.Who financed whose education!!Who got campaign contribution from who.
You care F all!! You care about race and fundie angle.
Oh yes you cant stand man of color in white house!! |
If only you knew how WRONG YOU ARE!
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So worried about COLB that argues about whats COLB, whats birth certification, what is birth certificate, whats long one , whats short one and what original what copy , whats vault certificate
For your information same COLB is used by all frigging white folks to get their passports!! But coloroed guy whose mom was white ( enough ground to castrate black partner and stome white woman )woman drives racists mad..Join Hawaii politics to address the issue of COLB. |
When all else fails play the racist card.  |
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Sally

Joined: 17 Nov 2007 Posts: 438
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Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 11:40 pm Post subject: |
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The point I am making is that CC is indifferent about the present but has concerns about the past, citing the past as a bench-mark for acceptance of dodgy behavior in present issues.
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I can't speak for CC, but I am not at all indifferent about the present, nor is my concern for the past any attempt to insert a bench mark for acceptance of Obama.
I am raising the subject for one simple reason - I want to know whether or not I can trust this as an impartial source for information on any subject, including Islam.
So far, I'm getting a big no. You are demonising a democrat, and you have let a republican with at least as many faults get a free pass for the last four or more years.
Ie, you are partisan, and that taints any information I see published on here, on whatever subject. _________________ " |
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Brave Steed

Joined: 21 Nov 2004 Posts: 3285 Location: Here, like you.
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Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 11:40 pm Post subject: |
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Oh yes Australian woman... |
Piggy is a woman?
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You care about race and fundie angle.
Oh yes you cant stand man of color in white house!! |
Piggy has been here since February, 2004 and you have been here a similar period. Mr. Canuck, have you seen Piggy post one racist remark in all that time?
Steed _________________ Find the daughter killer Yassir Said
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Sally

Joined: 17 Nov 2007 Posts: 438
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Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 11:43 pm Post subject: |
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| When all else fails play the racist card. |
Sadly, its not a card. I wish it was, but unfortunately, there are plenty of people out there who hate and detest the idea of a black man being President so badly that they will go to any lengths to stop it.
I hope you're not one of them. _________________ " |
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crazy canuck
Joined: 20 Mar 2004 Posts: 6391
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Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 11:44 pm Post subject: |
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| piggy wrote: |
| crazy canuck wrote: |
| piggy wrote: |
| crazy canuck wrote: |
| I dont care who financed Obama's education. |
I do care .............. the slimy Obama is very likely to owe and allegiance or favor to some unsavory character who might intend harm to the system of things .............. for a person in the position of POTUS to be influenced by such a character(s) ........ this is something to care about. |
Oh yes Australian woman deeply cares about corruption of US politics.Who financed whose education!!Who got campaign contribution from who.
You care F all!! You care about race and fundie angle.
Oh yes you cant stand man of color in white house!! |
If only you knew how WRONG YOU ARE!
| crazy canuck wrote: |
So worried about COLB that argues about whats COLB, whats birth certification, what is birth certificate, whats long one , whats short one and what original what copy , whats vault certificate
For your information same COLB is used by all frigging white folks to get their passports!! But coloroed guy whose mom was white ( enough ground to castrate black partner and stome white woman )woman drives racists mad..Join Hawaii politics to address the issue of COLB. |
When all else fails play the racist card.  |
Play that Obama the muslim, narcisst, Hitler, Mohemmed, anti christ, proabortionist, anti creation card!! Why not?
Welcome to the gallery of absurdity!! |
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crazy canuck
Joined: 20 Mar 2004 Posts: 6391
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Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 11:47 pm Post subject: |
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| When all else fails play the racist card. |
Sadly, its not a card. I wish it was, but unfortunately, there are plenty of people out there who hate and detest the idea of a black man being President so badly that they will go to any lengths to stop it.
I hope you're not one of them. |
Oh yes that why they all tell me Obam's degree from Harvard is useless!
All blacks get straight A while whites had to work for their grades.
He got plum job in Chicago as high power attorney where as whites had to do pimping in Boston.  |
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Brave Steed

Joined: 21 Nov 2004 Posts: 3285 Location: Here, like you.
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Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 12:09 am Post subject: |
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| When all else fails play the racist card. |
Sadly, its not a card. I wish it was, but unfortunately, there are plenty of people out there who hate and detest the idea of a black man being President so badly that they will go to any lengths to stop it.
I hope you're not one of them. |
Oh yes that why they all tell me Obam's degree from Harvard is useless!
All blacks get straight A while whites had to work for their grades.
He got plum job in Chicago as high power attorney where as whites had to do pimping in Boston.  |
Affirmative action is racist (sexist, what-have-you).
I like Mychal Massie as an author. He has weighed in on this topic:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=54326
Steed _________________ Find the daughter killer Yassir Said
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Val Era
Joined: 17 Jan 2007 Posts: 160
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Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 12:21 am Post subject: |
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| When all else fails play the racist card. |
Sadly, its not a card. |
Indeed it is. I have been following this thread from its inception. If either piggy's or Steed's intentions were racially motivated, then it would be clearly visible in the language of their arguments. I have yet to see any evidence this, thus making the allegations entirely frivolous.
These are good examples of racially motivated arguments:
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Oh yes you cant stand man of color in white house!!
Guy got a law degree. I value the degree. White drop out losers will make all excuses of not to study.
Oh yes you cant stand man of color in white house!!
He got plum job in Chicago as high power attorney where as whites had to do pimping in Boston. |
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Sally

Joined: 17 Nov 2007 Posts: 438
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Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 12:33 am Post subject: |
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I have been following this thread from its inception. If either piggy's or Steed's intentions were racially motivated, then it would be clearly visible in the language of their arguments. I have yet to see any evidence this, thus making the allegations entirely frivolous.
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How would it be clearly visible?
I have yet to see any evidence for their hysterical accusations against the first black man to win the Presidency. Or even any evidence from that they lie within a jurisdiction which gives them any right to carp.
With neither evidence, nor reason, nor substance, nor even basic democratic rights, they carp endlessly. And boringly.
About the first black american to be democratically elected.
Go figure.
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crazy canuck
Joined: 20 Mar 2004 Posts: 6391
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Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 12:42 am Post subject: |
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| Val Era wrote: |
| Sally wrote: |
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| When all else fails play the racist card. |
Sadly, its not a card. |
Indeed it is. I have been following this thread from its inception. If either piggy's or Steed's intentions were racially motivated, then it would be clearly visible in the language of their arguments. I have yet to see any evidence this, thus making the allegations entirely frivolous.
These are good examples of racially motivated arguments:
| Crazy C wrote: |
Oh yes you cant stand man of color in white house!!
Guy got a law degree. I value the degree. White drop out losers will make all excuses of not to study.
Oh yes you cant stand man of color in white house!!
He got plum job in Chicago as high power attorney where as whites had to do pimping in Boston. |
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One long time FFI forumer told us that everyone gets A at Harvard.
Guy is too smart to bring up the race or affirmative action angle. I have no idea whether Obama got admission because of his race.
Many on the forum likes to see that law school disssertation. They can go to school library and get it.They think some one else wrote the dissertation.
His Law Journal experience is belittled by many upright forumers .
His chicago corporate law job is summarily dismissed as too short, too trivial or worst!!
His wife's upward climbing nature and achievement becomes diabolic at hand of white racist. If she were white woman , they all will be salivating at the achievement.
These are all not stupid people , but racial angle and hatred cant be discounted. Sometime they hide behind fundie anfgle. Many call Obama antichrist , Hitler and what not.
Well whats wrong to play race card when we have very handy hitler-mohemmed card here.  |
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