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ygalg
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 Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 4:58 am Post subject: Why I hate movies about Jews |
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Dec. 17, 2008
John Lalor , THE JERUSALEM POST
I don't care to watch movies about Jews - not those made by non-Jews and leftist Jews, anyway. By all accounts, The Boy in the Striped Pajamas is supposed to be a good movie. But I would be more interested in a gormless shoot-em-up movie with Sly or Arnie.
Why? Because the interest in these movies about Jews is based on an interest in their story of destitution, destruction and humiliation. Interesting, don't you think? We have countless movies about America's greatness. We have movies about the conquests and victories of Nelson and Napoleon and Columbus. So, why can I not think of too many movies depicting Jews (and Israelis) as good, successful, heroic - in short, in a positive light?
Because it does not serve the function of the narrative of the Jew in the last six or seven decades. Once the narrative of weakness, despair - and dependence upon the goodness of goyim - is replaced with success, strength and independence, many goyim lose interest.
This is because it is about ownership: The suffering Jew is the property of the rescuing goyim; the successful Jew is not. Moreover, once the dependent party becomes independent of his benefactors, we can readily see the consequence: How dare you!
A more individualized example of that is the way in which white leftists in the US cannot stomach it when blacks vote conservative. Just look at the treatment of Supreme Court Justic Clarence Thomas by columnist Maureen Dowd. Following the Grutter vs. Bollinger affirmative action case in 2003, Dowd believed that Thomas's dissent was a
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so goes the logic,
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| "who gained so much from the radical white left in the US, now turn his back and be independent and proud of his own abilities!" |
RETURNING TO Israel, those who are
are those who supported Israel until 1967 - June 10, 1967, to be precise. Because, on that day, for the first time since biblical times, the Jews won. On June 10 1967, the Jews ceased to be life's perpetual losers. And, so, the Jews did not need the goyim and their protection. And, suddenly, nobody held power over the Jews of Israel.
While there is no doubt in my mind that Oskar Schindler was a great, great man, and the American and British soldiers who eventually freed those remaining Jews during World War II were great, great men, there is something evident in many goyim's communal interest in the Holocaust. And that is pride: Many goyim watch these movies, not out of compassion, but out of self-congratulatory sentiment. Alas, the Jews of the Holocaust are used - used for their juxtaposing of the Nazis and fascists for being as evil as we see them. Or did the double-standards not occur to you - of how those Jews butchered by the Soviets and the Romanians and the Poles and the Czechoslovaks are rarely mentioned in leftist-dominated visual media, but the suffering of those Jews butchered by the Nazis and fascists is always on our screens?
So, while we have movies about the Alamo, the Somme, Trafalgar, Pearl Harbor and so on, why is it that we do not have - not in any popular sense, at least - a movie about the Six Day War? Again, because the Jews won. And what happens when they win? Just watch Munich from the point of view of how Jews are depicted as they win. Cold, evil, cowardly, self-doubting.
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ibn_rushd2
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I have this to be true where gentile support of Jews is concerned. Many times you see them supporting those "poor, destitute" Jews back in the 1930s/40s, but when they get their own state, then the vitriol hits. Now they don't need to rely on the gentiles' backs, and can stand their own against evil. Gentiles can't stand that.
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planck
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First of all, the following is not true:
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| So, why can I not think of too many movies depicting Jews (and Israelis) as good, successful, heroic - in short, in a positive light? |
What about the Zohan
DISCO DISCO!!
But seriously, this is a great editorial. And the columnist makes a great point. Any time you watch a movie where jews are prominently featured, it's usually about the holocaust---where they're being tortured or killed.
I just saw the trailer for this boy in the striped pajamas, and it's basically the same thing as the piano, schindler's list, life is beautiful, etc, etc.
There's even a newer holocaust film that the columnist didn't mention. The name of the film is Adam resurrected, and get the premise of this film. It revolves around the story of a man who survived the holocaust by pretending to be a dog. If this movie doesn't epitomize the columinist's, "story of destitution, destruction and humiliation," I don't know what will.
But he's also right about munich, which was a terrible movie. Munich was directed by spielberg and it was even wrong. After the hulk killed all those palestinians, he felt bad. But in real life, he didn't feel regret for carrying out the executions of those terrorists.
I suspect that the reason why more movies are not made about the triumphs of israel, is because hollywood doesn't want to seem like a propaganda arm for israel. There's so many jews who work in hollywood, and they're already being accused of running hollywood and the media. So if we see more pro-israeli films, they'd be automatically called israeli propagandists.
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IoshkaFutz
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Action hero Steven Segal - only half Jewish (father's side, so it might not count). Mother of Irish background.
Non-action neurological hero Woody Allen - completely Jewish, Yiddish speaking background.
To me this plays out as qvetching, all the more so because Jews - albeit atheist Jews - practically run Hollywood. In the land of stereotypes Jews are Lawyers, Doctors, scholars, (and Comedians). One must look at the Jewish humor about themselves. "Two Jews 3 opinions" - "Don't jump cut velvet" to see that like other peoples of the earth, the first thing that comes to mind is not physical heroism... They themselves would probably be too smart to really want that association.
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Sally
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I'm so glad a Jew has said what I have often felt. Movies about the Holocaust are often, a bit icky. However, there are studies of the Jewish experience of the Holocaust that deserve serious attention.
For example...
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=3ozxwYdxJ88
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I like writings of that crazy Jew of "Zuckerman" fame Philip Roth. 
His portryal of neurotic fued up jews is quite accurate I guess!! 
I liked the movie "Goodbye Columbus" based on his novel. |
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