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Kirina
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 Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 9:43 pm Post subject: The Values of America are Sex, Violence, and Melancholy... |
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| Hassan Rahimpour Azghadi of the Iranian Supreme Council for Cultural Revolution wrote: |
The history of the civilization is, unfortunately, written by the victors. Let’s take as an example World War II, which took place in Europe. The Europeans call their wars “world wars.”
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In all the books or films about that war, the characters are American. Let me remind you that America hardly had any casualties in that war. It entered the war only in its final stages, and joined [the victors]. In the many films about World War II, which you must have seen, the main characters are always American or English, and each of these characters kills 2,000 or 3,000 Germans singlehandedly. Eventually, he may be slightly injured, but with God’s grace, he quickly recovers. In addition, they produce hundreds or thousands of films about operations that never took place, heroic feats they never accomplished, and sacrifices they never made. They are highly skilled in this.
When I was a little boy – it was before the [Islamic] revolution – we would watch such films, and we would always identify with the American character, who was the hero in the film. We would wish he would kill more of them, because we identified with him. Even when the Europeans made films about the Crusades, and the enemies were the Muslims, we would identify with the Crusaders. We would say: “Kill those backward, barbaric Arabs.” Or we would say: “Let the Crusaders kill as many Arabs as possible.” These films presented the perspective of the Crusaders and the Europeans.
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If the allies had not won World War II, but instead, it had been won by the Axis – Germany and Japan – [the roles] in all these films would have been reversed. You would have gotten a completely different picture of World War II. All the negative things said about Fascism and Nazism, and all the talk about a free world – it would all have been reversed. If the Communists had prevailed, the regime of liberal capitalism would have disappeared, and everything would have been recounted from a Communist perspective.
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What are American values – are they really freedom and democracy? The values of America are sex, violence, and melancholy. Those are the values of America. |
source: MEMRI
http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/0/0/0/0/0/0/1856.htm
Well, I must admit he has a point
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Chewchy
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Certainly there are misinformed and ignorant people of all ideologies out there; no one in the West or East has a corner on that market.
I think that in many cases one will see what they want to see - I'm sure that I am no different. Is the US highly sexualized? IMO, yes and no. There is this strange mixture of sex and puritanical mores at the same time. In Europe the television shows, commercials, etc are FAR more racy and actually would be somewhat shocking to most Americans.
In regards to violence, there seems to be much more tolerance for that in the media than the sex which I find interesting.
Meloncholy? Absolutely not! I find that most people I come into contact with strive to be positive and strive for self-improvement.
When all is said and done, there are people who are moral and immoral. From my personal experience, the majority of what goes on in the US (unless your a politician) is pretty much out there for all to see whereas in Islamic countries, it goes on definitely but is hidden from view. There is one public life and a very different personal life.
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This man in the link is Iranian and can hardly say this with any credibility. Iran is one of the absolute worst places int he sense of hiding who your are in public. I've seen parties where the women were dressed in the most trashy outfits that would shock most Americans and leave them wondering if these women were prostitutes. It's a side effect of forcing them to cover up outside against their will. They rebel completely and I NEVER saw such things prior to the Islamic Revolution. |
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Kirina
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| Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 1:30 am Post subject: |
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| Melancholy? Absolutely not! I find that most people I come into contact with strive to be positive and strive for self-improvement. |
Well- but I read that 20 % of Americans suffer from some form of depression and anti-depressants are prescribed even to little children...
I have never been in America- but is the country not the craddle of sexual revolution ?
Iran is much worse- I know...But somehow I agree with this guy...
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Chewchy
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| Kirina wrote: |
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| Melancholy? Absolutely not! I find that most people I come into contact with strive to be positive and strive for self-improvement. |
Well- but I read that 20 % of Americans suffer from some form of depression and anti-depressants are prescribed even to little children...
I have never been in America- but is the country not the craddle of sexual revolution ?
Iran is much worse- I know...But somehow I agree with this guy... |
Kirina, what we have here in America is the belief that depression is not "normal" to any degree and must be corrected. Everyone, everywhere gets depressed from time to time and then there are people who have true depression that they cannot seem to break out of and need some kind of intevention be that from counseling, medication or both.
Doctors often prescribe anti-depressants to people who may not really be in need of them. People demand that they want to feel better and the doctor's oblige them in this. There are many people who are taking much needed medication and others who don't need it at all.
It's not so much that people in the US are more depressed but that their expectation of good mood is so much higher. Generally speaking, Americans do not believe that they should ever be depressed or feel bad when it is a normal human condition to be in from time to time. In addition, we tend to have a "snap out of it" mentality and not acknowledge the profound affect of loss, grief, etc. We want to feel better now and everyone tells us that we should.
It actually points to something else in this society rather than people being truly melancholy.
As far as the "sexual revolution" I believe that this has happened all over the world - some countries have obviously seen more change than others; those without the separation of church and state are the slowest to change.... lightbulb moment?. The sexual revolution in the US has had it's pluses and minuses. Is it better that ideals are drafted and worked towards that make women equal in rights to men? Absolutely and it's something that Americans are still working through. |
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