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Charlie Brown
Joined: 19 Oct 2008 Posts: 13 Location: London
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Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 12:22 pm Post subject: Muslim men - cheats or are they allowed to do it? |
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| I was in a relationship with a Muslim Man for 3 years. When I met him he was separated and (I know it is bad) - I kept seeing him when she took him back. I had low self esteem and he told me he loved me and we would be together. In hindsight I can see he has been lying about everything he said and everything he told me about himself. This ended 3 months ago. Last week he emailed me and said "I still love you...convert to Islam tomorrow and I'll marry you on the spot". I would love to know why he feels no guilt and why he still won't admit he lied. Is this permissible in Islam? (I am Christian and would never convert). Honestly, I knew nothing about Islam until we broke up and I came across this site. Thanks |
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Chewchy
Joined: 02 Feb 2008 Posts: 1774
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Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 10:31 pm Post subject: Re: Muslim men - cheats or are they allowed to do it? |
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| Charlie Brown wrote: |
| I was in a relationship with a Muslim Man for 3 years. When I met him he was separated and (I know it is bad) - I kept seeing him when she took him back. I had low self esteem and he told me he loved me and we would be together. In hindsight I can see he has been lying about everything he said and everything he told me about himself. This ended 3 months ago. Last week he emailed me and said "I still love you...convert to Islam tomorrow and I'll marry you on the spot". I would love to know why he feels no guilt and why he still won't admit he lied. Is this permissible in Islam? (I am Christian and would never convert). Honestly, I knew nothing about Islam until we broke up and I came across this site. Thanks |
Because you are a lowly woman, he's better than you and can do whatever he wants. You must accept whatever he dishes and ask Allah for patience until you die. If you want a life of that BS, go ahead, convert and marry the jerk.
BTW, the first sentence is not my personal belief. Your better than this and deserve more... cut him off and don't look back sweety.
Edited to add: Regardless of whether or not this Islamic (which since you are Kafir woman, I believe it is), this man is not worthy of entrusting you and your children's future with. Would you put your life into the hands of a man that would ask you to renounce your faith AND put up with lies and cheating? |
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Ex-muslimah

Joined: 19 Jul 2006 Posts: 909 Location: Scotland somewhere
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Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 11:22 pm Post subject: |
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I agree with the above.....if you want to have a life, don't convert and cut off all contact with him. You'll be glad you said no!
If you did convert to islam and get married, you'd be treated as a slave and second rate, in fact your pretty certain to be destined to hell! _________________ The Borg is si-fi's Islam. The "Collective" is the Ummah and they assimilate the kaffir.
*http://www.karmanirvana.org.uk/* - For if you are in a forced marriage in the UK |
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OLLOH
Joined: 04 Dec 2008 Posts: 5
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Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 6:20 pm Post subject: |
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there are a lot of good men out there for you, stay away from this one or anybody like him  _________________ Bring Indonesian FFI back on!!! |
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Charlie Brown
Joined: 19 Oct 2008 Posts: 13 Location: London
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Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 6:03 pm Post subject: Thanks! |
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| to all of you that took some time to reply x |
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sword_of_truth
Joined: 12 Oct 2008 Posts: 255
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Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 12:34 am Post subject: |
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Muslims are not allowed to cheat on their wives in the common interpretation of Islam used by everyday muslims. They are allowed to cheat on their wives with slaves or captives of war. This was shown in the "Does Islam allow rape?" thread.
So, I guess the answer is no, muslims are not allowed to cheat these days, since they typically don't keep slaves.
You have to find out what kind of muslim the guy is. Certain crazy muslims can justify any sex with unbelievers.
I mean, if they want, they can declare war on your country, take you as a captive, and rape you, based on the hadith. Of course, no normal muslim would do that, but I could see a mentally ill one pulling it off and telling himself it was permitted. |
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misswhisp
Joined: 22 Oct 2006 Posts: 356
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Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 11:39 pm Post subject: |
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| cheating on your spouse is adultery, and that is one of the 10 commandments, thou shalt not, as islam, judaism and christianity share the same 10 commandments , then , he was not allowed to do it |
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Ram
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Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 2:45 am Post subject: |
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| cheating on your spouse is adultery, and that is one of the 10 commandments, thou shalt not, as islam, judaism and christianity share the same 10 commandments , then , he was not allowed to do it |
For a Muslim, having sex with a non-Muslim woman is NOT cheating. |
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Ram
Joined: 27 Apr 2004 Posts: 1502
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Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 2:56 am Post subject: Re: Muslim men - cheats or are they allowed to do it? |
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| Charlie Brown wrote: |
| I was in a relationship with a Muslim Man for 3 years. When I met him he was separated and (I know it is bad) - I kept seeing him when she took him back. I had low self esteem and he told me he loved me and we would be together. |
Muslim man (or any selfish and chauvanistic man) will tell you that he loves you if he can have sex with you. You fell for his lies because you were at a low point in your life. Remember, he is allowed to have 4 wives and any number of concubines. To have concubines are permissible in Islam. In his mind you became his concubine when she told you that he loved you, he is not committing any adultery.
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| In hindsight I can see he has been lying about everything he said and everything he told me about himself. This ended 3 months ago. |
Thank God you realized that he is a lier. Lying comes naturally to Muslim men. Lying to a kaffir is not a lie in Islam.
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| Last week he emailed me and said "I still love you...convert to Islam tomorrow and I'll marry you on the spot". I would love to know why he feels no guilt and why he still won't admit he lied. Is this permissible in Islam? (I am Christian and would never convert). Honestly, I knew nothing about Islam until we broke up and I came across this site. Thanks |
Count your blessings. You found out just in time. He would have made your life living hell. He can 4 wives legally in Islam so its permissible. One more thing, send him an e-mail asking him to convert to Christianity instead if he really loves you. I would like to know his response. |
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misswhisp
Joined: 22 Oct 2006 Posts: 356
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Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 6:09 am Post subject: |
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| Thou shalt not commit adultery is one of the 10 comandments shared by the 3 abrahamic religions.....so....if he has sex outside marriage he is guilty of it... |
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