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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 12:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MsWesterner: I have deleted my response here and started a new thread, because I do not wish to hijack this thread any further.

Internet Censorship in Islamic countries - for MsWesterner

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 4:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Abudosama wrote:
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The ulema and the governments in Islamic countries are scared that Ali Sina will shine some light so the ordinary Muslims can see for themselves that after all Islam is not the answer.


Dear RAM, how come u r still alive you should have been slaughtered by some Afghani on "Yum Kipper" (ritual holy slaughter). After all they are 12th tribe of JEWS.


Your remark is not only insipid but childish as well. To imply that the Jewish holy day of Yome Kipur is associated with ritual slaughter not only betrays your ignorance but your unjustifiable hatred of Jews and Hindus. You utter the most vicious lie and at the same time you are trying your best to convince us that you are a follower of a peaceful and tolerant religion which you call Islam (submission). You cannot have both ways. If you want us to believe that your religion is the religion of tolerance you have to show us the tolerant face of Islam. Upto now all you have done is to show to us the ugly face of Islam and everything you have said about Islam and Islamic societies is without any substance and completely false.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 6:45 pm    Post subject: Men vs Women Reply with quote

Unfortunately, in my experience (and I'm not young), all the Muslim men I know have proved themselves significantly inferior to all the western women I have as friends in all the following areas: mentally, intellectually and philosophically. I see no evidence of their tolerance, compassion, understanding, ability to think with reason. I only see a tendancy towards violence, blind faith, arrogance, agression, bullying, cowardice, inability to act independantly, etc etc.

This is what I don't understand:

Surely if you want people to think and behave like you do because you think your way is better, you do it through example and not dogma and force.

I have tried to be open minded but as yet I have seen nothing about Islam that would ever make me consider it my religion of choice.
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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Black Trident wrote:
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THANKS, I WAS STOPPED BY MY GOVERNAMENT WHO BLOCKED THIS IDIOTIC WEBSITE. THEY THINK PEOPLE WILL BECOME NON-MUSLIM LIKE ALI SINA, BY READING HIS OR HIS INTELLECTUAL SATANIC GROUP ARTICLES.


Islam fears the "truth" more than anything else. Glad to hear that your government is actually afraid of losing Muslims to sanity.


NO ISLAM COMDEMN HERESAY NOT THE CRITICS OR TRUTH, BECAUSE THIS UNIVERSE IS BASE ON TRUTH & FACTS.
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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Abudosama:
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NO ISLAM COMDEMN HERESAY NOT THE CRITICS OR TRUTH, BECAUSE THIS UNIVERSE IS BASE ON TRUTH & FACTS.


Please define heresay for me Abudosama.

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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 1:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Abudosama wrote:
Black Trident wrote:
Abudosama wrote:
THANKS, I WAS STOPPED BY MY GOVERNAMENT WHO BLOCKED THIS IDIOTIC WEBSITE. THEY THINK PEOPLE WILL BECOME NON-MUSLIM LIKE ALI SINA, BY READING HIS OR HIS INTELLECTUAL SATANIC GROUP ARTICLES.


Islam fears the "truth" more than anything else. Glad to hear that your government is actually afraid of losing Muslims to sanity.


NO ISLAM COMDEMN HERESAY NOT THE CRITICS OR TRUTH, BECAUSE THIS UNIVERSE IS BASE ON TRUTH & FACTS.


First, What do you mean by hearsy?
Furthermore, what do you mean the universe is based on truth and facts exactly?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Batou wrote:

First, What do you mean by hearsy?
Furthermore, what do you mean the universe is based on truth and facts exactly?


Hearsay mean all quotations by IRANIAN oldies who wrote in their books, to misguide people.

The Univers is based on Truth & Facts.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Abudosama is back and says
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The Univers is based on Truth & Facts.
.. Good.. good yes "the Universe is based on Truth & Facts.., but what is Truth & Facts dear Abudosama? And look at this
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033.037: Behold! thou didst say to one who had received the grace of Allah and thy favour: "Retain thou (in wedlock) thy wife, and fear Allah." But thou didst hide in thy heart that which Allah was about to make manifest: thou didst fear the people, but it is more fitting that thou shouldst fear Allah. Then when Zaid had dissolved (his marriage) with her, with the necessary (formality), We joined her in marriage to thee: in order that (in future) there may be no difficulty to the Believers in (the matter of) marriage with the wives of their adopted sons, when the latter have dissolved with the necessary (formality) (their marriage) with them. And Allah's command must be fulfilled.
Is that REALLY A TRUTH from Allah/God?? THAT IS ABSURD dear Abu..

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 5:47 pm    Post subject: Misguidanc by forefathers of Ali Sina by inventing stories Reply with quote


The Actual Translation is as follows:

(Al-Kitaab Ch: 33 V:37) : When you (Messenger) spoke to one (Mr.A), who has blessings of Allah and your blessings:
"Be in touch with your wife, and fear Allah. And what ever you (Mr.A) hide in yourself (Mr.A), which Allah has manifested: you (Mr.A) do fear the people, but it is more fitting that you (Mr.A) should fear Allah".
Then when additional desire completed from her, we (Messenger) have made your (Mr.A) pair with her:
So that there may be no problem to the Believers in pairs they called, when they have fulfilled their desire from them. And Allah's command must be fulfilled.


What is the desire of a woman?


(Al-Kitaab C:33: V:38 )..O Prophet! say to your wives: If you desire this world's life and its adornment, then come, I will give you a provision and allow you to depart a goodly departing.

In a fact you people like other Muslims are purposely misguided by forefathers of Ali Sina by inventing stories.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Title of this thread created by a Muslim:

When to beat women?

I would like to ask Muslim or Muslims why can't it be "When to rape women?

If you can beat a woman then you can definitely rape her too. Both are physical assaults. Isn't it so?

Tell me: When do you rape your women?

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 11:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The two can also been seen as abuse of women in Islam. As commonly dictatorship, domination and everything in the Qur'an can make out that as a whole, Islam advocates the full use of abuse against women
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