Suns resting place

[Musti]

The Koran confims 7th century ignorance when it describes the sun as orbitting the earth and retreating to a resting place when night arrives.
The verses below describe what occurs at night as a sign from Allah:


36:37/38/39
PICKTHAL:A token unto them is night. We strip it of the day, and lo! they are in darkness. And the sun runneth on unto a resting-place for him. That is the measuring of the Mighty, the Wise. And for the moon We have appointed mansions till she return like an old shrivelled palm-leaf.

The verse explains that as night appears earth becomes dark and the sun runs to its resting place and the moon returns like an shrivelled palm leaf.[/b] Not only does this incorrectly tell us the sun is going around the earth but also the earth is flat, as the notion of the sun resting at night would not be possible with our spherical earth.
This is a clear error which cannot be disputed by the sane.

Although no further clarification is needed Mo kindly explains the error in his words:

Book 001, Number 0297:
It is narrated on the authority of Abu Dharr that the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) one day said: Do you know where the sun goes? They replied: Allah and His Apostle know best. He (the Holy Prophet) observed: Verily it (the sun) glides till it reaches its resting place under the Throne.....

So Mo tells us that at sunset, the sun runs to its resting place which is under the throne and once again and confims the errors in the Koran.

How can anyone remain a muslim with such nonsense in the Koran?
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Ahmed Bahgat[Qur'an 79:30]:- and the earth after that, He squashed it.....

Ahmed Bahgat-A deluded mind:
You can even prove it wrong, I won't care.....

[Musti]

Will muslims ignore this post too?
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Ahmed Bahgat[Qur'an 79:30]:- and the earth after that, He squashed it.....

Ahmed Bahgat-A deluded mind:
You can even prove it wrong, I won't care.....

[tawasaubilhaq]

The verses 36:37-40 in Arabic are:


وَآيَةٌ لَّهُمْ اللَّيْلُ نَسْلَخُ مِنْهُ النَّهَارَ فَإِذَا هُم مُّظْلِمُونَ37
وَالشَّمْسُ تَجْرِي لِمُسْتَقَرٍّ لَّهَا ذَلِكَ تَقْدِيرُ الْعَزِيزِ الْعَلِيمِ 38
وَالْقَمَرَ قَدَّرْنَاهُ مَنَازِلَ حَتَّى عَادَ كَالْعُرْجُونِ الْقَدِيمِ 39
لَا الشَّمْسُ يَنبَغِي لَهَا أَن تُدْرِكَ الْقَمَرَ وَلَا اللَّيْلُ سَابِقُ النَّهَارِ وَكُلٌّ فِي فَلَكٍ يَسْبَحُونَ40


Please explain what does the following mean?

وَالشَّمْسُ تَجْرِي لِمُسْتَقَرٍّ لَّهَا

Don't worry about Abu ABC or Abu XYZ. Have you read all other translations? If you have done, quote from all. If you do not know Arabic, please ask those who know.

Tawasau

[skynightblaze]

[Musti]

[EmperorJ666]

you should mention that in surah 18:86 it says "Until, when he reached the setting of the sun, he found it set in a spring of murky water: Near it he found a People: We said: "O Zul-qarnain! (thou hast authority,) either to punish them, or to treat them with kindness."
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[Musti]

[EmperorJ666]

Yes, true, but now that they know those verses you said they can't really BS their way outta surah 18:86 now
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[Musti]

[sum]

Does the sun have a wash in a muddy spring before it then has a rest under the throne?

Can the muslims please explain the sequence of events and let us know if the sun actually does stop and have a rest?

sum

[sum]

Hello Musti

I think that the muslims will address your thread like they do with most of mine - they will ignore it because they have no logical or sensible answer.

sum

[Musti]

[infidel_01]

http://www.faithfreedom.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=60178

A real gem, for all.
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WHY? None could answer

[Musti]

Where does the sun rest when the night appears muslims?
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Ahmed Bahgat[Qur'an 79:30]:- and the earth after that, He squashed it.....

Ahmed Bahgat-A deluded mind:
You can even prove it wrong, I won't care.....

[Musti]

The Koran also makes it clear the sun goes around the earth:

According to the Koran Allah has made the course of the sun subservient to us and he makes the signs clear:

013.002
He made the sun and the moon subservient (to you); each one pursues its course to an appointed time; He regulates the affair, making clear the signs that you may be certain of meeting your Lord.

How can this be describing the suns orbit around the galaxy?
Fistly the suns course was used back then to tell the time and a sign for when to pray. So how is the suns course around the galaxy subservient to 7th century Arabs? And how did Allah make it clear to them he wasn't describing the sun going around the earth?

Well lets look at the following verse:

031.029
SHAKIR: Do you not see that Allah makes the night to enter into the day, and He makes the day to enter into the night, and He has made the sun and the moon subservient (to you); each pursues its course till an appointed time; and that Allah is Aware of what you do?

Its very clear that Allah can only be descibing the sun going around the earth. Firstly the the course the sun is following is visible and once again described as subservient to man. Arabs needed the visual course of the sun for time keeping therefore it was considered subservient to them. How is it possible the suns actaual course was visibe to 7th century Arabs and was considered subservient by them?

The only purpose the Arabs believed the sun was created for was time keeping, hence it was considered subservient to them.

This is also confirmed in the koran:

06.096
YUSUFALI: He it is that cleaveth the day-break (from the dark): He makes the night for rest and tranquillity, and the sun and moon for the reckoning (of time)

To conclude:

1.The course is visible
2.The course of the sun is subservient to man
3.The sun was made for time keeping

Which can only mean the Koran is describing the sun going around the earth as it appeared to 7th century Arabs.
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Ahmed Bahgat[Qur'an 79:30]:- and the earth after that, He squashed it.....

Ahmed Bahgat-A deluded mind:
You can even prove it wrong, I won't care.....