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FinallyFree



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Does anyone else here find it really odd and funny that Jinn attacks only happen in South Asia?

I used to live around Pakistanis and Indian Muslims, not that I had/have anything against them (apart from them being strict adherars to Islam-this was a "madrassa") but one thing I heard a lot was about how someone or someone's brother, sister, hamster or whatever was possessed by a Jinn and excorsised in Pakistan or India. I never heard the same people mention these attacks happening in the UK, and I never heard of this phenomenon from South East Asian Muslims or Arabs or Africans.

Must be the water.

actualli dats not quite rite
i herd stories from muslims all over the world not jus muslims lot of people about this stuf. even in the uk my gf( we dont mess around we have intention of marryin each other) lives in uk she told me stuf dat she seen. since u use to live in pakistan i cud recomenda place to u to visit. where u cud see it for ur self. i didnt believe in jinns my self dat much but after i went der i left like diferent person and believed everything in quran( the jin was the onli thing i had problem wid in quarn rest makes perfect sense to me and i cud see y allah wud write dat stuf)


A) I was talking from my and others (Muslims) personal experience, I didn't state it as a matter of fact.
B) Read it properly, Cartman. I never said I used to live in Pakistan, I am not Pakistani or South Asian either. I said: I used to live around South Asians in the UK.
C) Finally, don't you think it was psychological that you felt such things? You expected to see them and so you did, if I told you that we recently found a new hadith that said that there is a piece of toilet paper that has a picture of heaven on it, but you have to look through devout Muslim eyes to decipher the picture, and then showed you a piece of toilet paper with faeces on it, you would probably see heaven even though it isn't on there.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do jinn only affect muslims?

sorry, trespassing, but I couldn`t resist asking.

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FinallyFree



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sum wrote:
Do jinn only affect muslims?

sorry, trespassing, but I couldn`t resist asking.

sum


No, non muslims feel them as well, but it is usually called:

INSANITY

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FinallyFree wrote:
qamar1990 wrote:
FinallyFree wrote:
Does anyone else here find it really odd and funny that Jinn attacks only happen in South Asia?

I used to live around Pakistanis and Indian Muslims, not that I had/have anything against them (apart from them being strict adherars to Islam-this was a "madrassa") but one thing I heard a lot was about how someone or someone's brother, sister, hamster or whatever was possessed by a Jinn and excorsised in Pakistan or India. I never heard the same people mention these attacks happening in the UK, and I never heard of this phenomenon from South East Asian Muslims or Arabs or Africans.

Must be the water.

actualli dats not quite rite
i herd stories from muslims all over the world not jus muslims lot of people about this stuf. even in the uk my gf( we dont mess around we have intention of marryin each other) lives in uk she told me stuf dat she seen. since u use to live in pakistan i cud recomenda place to u to visit. where u cud see it for ur self. i didnt believe in jinns my self dat much but after i went der i left like diferent person and believed everything in quran( the jin was the onli thing i had problem wid in quarn rest makes perfect sense to me and i cud see y allah wud write dat stuf)


A) I was talking from my and others (Muslims) personal experience, I didn't state it as a matter of fact.
B) Read it properly, Cartman. I never said I used to live in Pakistan, I am not Pakistani or South Asian either. I said: I used to live around South Asians in the UK.
C) Finally, don't you think it was psychological that you felt such things? You expected to see them and so you did, if I told you that we recently found a new hadith that said that there is a piece of toilet paper that has a picture of heaven on it, but you have to look through devout Muslim eyes to decipher the picture, and then showed you a piece of toilet paper with faeces on it, you would probably see heaven even though it isn't on there.

actualli ur quite wrong again.
i didnt expect to see anything wen i went der. all i expected was a a old man spiting out sh!t. but wen i got der it was totally diferent. the man dicribed my house and i never even seen him b4. it was crazy tho. how all that happened.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FinallyFree wrote:
sum wrote:
Do jinn only affect muslims?

sorry, trespassing, but I couldn`t resist asking.

sum


No, non muslims feel them as well, but it is usually called:

INSANITY

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if any of u hav doubts bout dem i cud giv adresses not to one but hundreds of such places where u cud see 4 urself.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello qamar1990

I should not really be in this thread as I am neither a muslim nor an ex-muslim. Perhaps you would care to comment on my thread on this subject in the Islam Questioned and Defended section.

I look forward to what you have to say as this matter is of great interest to me.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sum wrote:
Hello qamar1990

I should not really be in this thread as I am neither a muslim nor an ex-muslim. Perhaps you would care to comment on my thread on this subject in the Islam Questioned and Defended section.

I look forward to what you have to say as this matter is of great interest to me.

sum

what do you want to know?
this subject interests me too very much. can you give me link to the thread that you are at or what ever. becuase the islam defended part has lot of threads.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Mr qamar1990,

So you saw Jinns? Can you show me the process to see them as well. I am recent convert to humanity freed from the shackles of Islam. I am raring to see some true miracles. Seeing a true Jinn would be one that could make me believe. So get going Man to get me back.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Love_Peace wrote:
Hello Mr qamar1990,

So you saw Jinns? Can you show me the process to see them as well. I am recent convert to humanity freed from the shackles of Islam. I am raring to see some true miracles. Seeing a true Jinn would be one that could make me believe. So get going Man to get me back.

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Do one thing Love_Peace,

I hope there must be an old tin lamp somewhere in your house left unused for a long time. Just get hold of it and leave the house. Mount the nearest hill where you will not be noticed by anyone easily.

Now take the lamp out and scratch it. Sure at least one djinn should appear.

Djinns lost their credibility because of this. They appear at the scratch of old tin lamps..!

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 7:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello qamar1990

Here is the link that you asked for. I hope that you give us your comments on the subject.

http://www.faithfreedom.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=59564&highlight=

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Love_Peace wrote:
Hello Mr qamar1990,

So you saw Jinns? Can you show me the process to see them as well. I am recent convert to humanity freed from the shackles of Islam. I am raring to see some true miracles. Seeing a true Jinn would be one that could make me believe. So get going Man to get me back.

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i never said i seen a jinn like he/she was in front of me.
i seen the work done by them right in front of me live.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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i seen the work done by them right in front of me live.
what sort of work did you see jinns doing dear qamar1990..

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haik Monsieur wrote:
Love_Peace wrote:
Hello Mr qamar1990,

So you saw Jinns? Can you show me the process to see them as well. I am recent convert to humanity freed from the shackles of Islam. I am raring to see some true miracles. Seeing a true Jinn would be one that could make me believe. So get going Man to get me back.

Regards


Do one thing Love_Peace,

I hope there must be an old tin lamp somewhere in your house left unused for a long time. Just get hold of it and leave the house. Mount the nearest hill where you will not be noticed by anyone easily.

Now take the lamp out and scratch it. Sure at least one djinn should appear.

Djinns lost their credibility because of this. They appear at the scratch of old tin lamps..!

where the hell did you get that from?
loli never heard that except from alladin movies.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sum wrote:
Hello qamar1990

Here is the link that you asked for. I hope that you give us your comments on the subject.

http://www.faithfreedom.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=59564&highlight=

sum

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Love_Peace wrote:
Hello Mr qamar1990,

So you saw Jinns? Can you show me the process to see them as well. I am recent convert to humanity freed from the shackles of Islam. I am raring to see some true miracles. Seeing a true Jinn would be one that could make me believe. So get going Man to get me back.

Regards


i dont care about getting you back or any of you back as far as im concerned. im just here so half the crap you guys say dont go unanswered. after all this crap you people say about us and god and the prophet i rather you guys go to hell. and its not up to me becuase there is nothing i could do that can make you believe.
i can how ever show you where to see stuf like that if you want and if you are willing to go. but go to the link that "sum" posted we should talk about this there.
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