Muhammad's Harem: A Model for Muslims to Follow.

[Haik Monsieur]

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Muhammad’s harem and his treatment of his wives: Is this holy and blessed family Muslims emulate?

I started with a question because Muslims claim Islam is the solution for all of world’s problems. Familial values are key for smooth furthering of a society and if Muslims mean to build a perfect society and world accordingly, they must show us ideal examples of familial mores in their prophet’s life because if he couldn’t build one, sure no Muslim can do it for the very reason, Muhammad is the prophet and is the figure Muslims emulate in all of their daily affairs.

Let us see how Muhammad treated his wives. Quran the book, Muhammad and Muslims claim as god’s words cautions Muslims not to marry more than one if man can not be equally just among his wives. Did Muhammad pay equal justice to his wives at least in practice?

The answer is a big NO, because his treatment of Sauda bint Zama an elder one in his harem was cruel and contemptible. See the hadith:

When Sauda bint Zama became old and feared that the apostle would divorce her, she said: Apostle of Allah, I give to 'A'ishah the day you visit me. The Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) accepted it from her. [Sunan Abu Dawud Chapter 705: 2130]

What should notice here is, Sauda bint Zama fearing Muhammad would divorce her because of her old age. She gives up her nights to avoid the catastrophe of divorce and Muhammad, without any hesitation accepts and shares her night too for his favourite child bride Aisha. This hadith can be seen in Sahih Bukhari too:

Narrated Aisha: Whenever Allah's Apostle intended to go on a journey, he used to draw lots among his wives and would take with him the one on whom the lot fell. He also used to fix for everyone of his wives a day and a night, but Sauda bint Zam'a gave her day and night to 'Aisha, the wife of the Prophet intending thereby to please Allah's Apostle. [Sahih Bukhari .Book #48, Hadith #853]

We know Muslims will cling to any straw to make things better with their prophet Muhammad and here too they will come up Sauda bint Zama was giving up her nights and Muhammad had no option other than accepting it from her. And it is for this reason, I quoted Sunan Abu Dawud hadith at first in which it clearly says, Sauda was not giving up her turn, her nights wholeheartedly but it was the fear of divorce that forced her to do so.

Next, Muhammad’s fondness of virgins is quite notorious as he never concealed his weakness. In a sahih hadith which is also a Mutawatir (If a hadith is found in many places of sahih Bukhari and Muslim, it is called Mutawatir, that means highly authentic) Muhammad confronts one of his buddies. See the hadith:

Narrated Jabir bin 'Abdullah: When I got married, Allah's Apostle said to me, "What type of lady have you married?" I replied, "I have married a matron' He said, "Why, don't you have a liking for the virgins and for fondling them?" Jabir also said: Allah's Apostle said, "Why didn't you marry a young girl so that you might play with her and she with you?' [Sahih Bukhari. Book #62, Hadith #17]

Here we see a dirty old man who is getting disappointed even at his buddy’s marriage with a matron. And he profligately asks the man why couldn’t he have married a virgin or why doesn’t he have a liking for virgins? What is the reason for Muhammad to ask this question? Nothing but he had a particular liking; I would better call it obsession to virgins. His obsession led him to marry a perfect virgin who was playing with dolls. Aisha was six at the time Muhammad married her, besides she was still playing with dolls when Muhammad took her to bed. Muhammad’s lust for virgins was effectively quenched by marrying an under-aged virgin Aisha and having fun with her, and what remains is his obsession that forces him to ask his friends why don’t they also have a liking for virgins like him;

Too much of a prophet of god..!

The foulness of Muhammad doesn’t end up there as we see in more Sahih hadiths he favoured virgins over matrons. See the hadith below:

Narrated Anas: It is the Prophet's tradition that if someone marries a virgin and he has already a matron wife then he should stay for seven days with the virgin and then by turns; and if someone marries a matron and he has already a virgin wife then he should stay with her (the matron) for three days, and then by turns. [Sahih Bukhari. Book #62, Hadith #141]

What is clear from this hadith is Muhammad’s nasty obsession to virgins and his discrimination measures. The guy advocated to be just with all wives if anyone marries more than one, but see it in the hadith how he treated virgins and matrons quite discriminatively. A matron was only allowed three nights while a virgin’s allocation was seven nights. If anyone marries a matron while he has a virgin already in his harem, the guy should only stay three nights with a matron, but if the same one marries a virgin while having a matron in his house, seven nights are to be spent with virgins. Too much of justice between wives..! This is the Sunnah of prophet which Muslims should follow.

Finally, let us see how Muhammad showed his favoritism towards the virgin Aisha. Another hadith will reveal more of his dirty mind. It is a lengthy one but it deserves our time, because there is too much laughter in it so please follow carefully:

Narrated 'Urwa from 'Aisha: The wives of Allah's Apostle were in two groups. One group consisted of 'Aisha, Hafsa, Safiyya and Sauda; and the other group consisted of Um Salama and the other wives of Allah's Apostle. The Muslims knew that Allah's Apostle loved 'Aisha, so if any of them had a gift and wished to give to Allah's Apostle, he would delay it, till Allah's Apostle had come to 'Aisha's home and then he would send his gift to Allah's Apostle in her home. The group of Um Salama discussed the matter together and decided that Um Salama should request Allah's Apostle to tell the people to send their gifts to him in whatever wife's house he was. Um Salama told Allah's Apostle of what they had said, but he did not reply. Then they (those wives) asked Um Salama about it. She said, "He did not say anything to me." They asked her to talk to him again. She talked to him again when she met him on her day, but he gave no reply. When they asked her, she replied that he had given no reply. They said to her, "Talk to him till he gives you a reply." When it was her turn, she talked to him again. He then said to her, "Do not hurt me regarding Aisha, as the Divine Inspirations do not come to me on any of the beds except that of Aisha." On that Um Salama said, "I repent to Allah for hurting you." Then the group of Um Salama called Fatima, the daughter of Allah's Apostle and sent her to Allah's Apostle to say to him, "Your wives request to treat them and the daughter of Abu Bakr on equal terms." Then Fatima conveyed the message to him. The Prophet said, "O my daughter! Don't you love whom I love?" She replied in the affirmative and returned and told them of the situation. They requested her to go to him again but she refused. They then sent Zainab bint Jahsh who went to him and used harsh words saying, "Your wives request you to treat them and the daughter of Ibn Abu Quhafa on equal terms." On that she raised her voice and abused 'Aisha to her face so much so that Allah's Apostle looked at 'Aisha to see whether she would retort. 'Aisha started replying to Zainab till she silenced her. The Prophet then looked at 'Aisha and said, "She is really the daughter of Abu Bakr." [Sahih Bukhari. Book #47, Hadith #755]

See it in this hadith how unhappy and unsettled Muhammad-Islam’s holy prophet’s family was. There is a lot in this hadith to learn for Muslims and non-Muslims because for Muslims they can emulate this model in their lives and cruelly deprive women in their harems if they have more than one as Muhammad had. Hadith starts with “wives of prophets were two groups” Laughter begins from this very first line..! Then it reveals how filthy Muhammad was when it mattered woman of his taste. He doesn’t hide his particular fondness to Aisha and in fact defends for keeping that partiality by admonishing his other wives who questioned him. His excuse has been “Divine revelations come so often when he is in the presence of Aisha” this man doesn’t even hesitate to bring Allah, his altered ego to justify his bias towards an under-aged girl.

Muhammad didn’t give up his nepotism even when death was hanging around him. We see him begging to be with Aisha, the child bride while he was in his fatal illness. See the hadith:

'Aisha reported: It was in the house of Maimuna that the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) first fell ill. He asked permission from his wives to stay in her ('A'isha's) house during his illness. They granted him permission. [Sahih Muslim. Book #4, Hadith #833]

So the guy died and what we saw then is utter chaos. Ironically, his most favourite wife Aisha soon reverted to disbelief and went for slaying Muslims by arming up against an elected Caliph of Islam, not to say the aftermath of it was twenty thousand Muslims deaths caused by fighting each other.

So, Muslims, this is the blessed family you guys want to emulate. Whenever you proclaim of superior familial values, please don’t forget to mention this holy and blessed family of your prophet. Don’t forget what his most favourite wife did to your Ummah, the fact that laughs at you Muslims.., One of your mothers of believers caused the first large-scale civil war in the history of Islam..!

Glorious and exalted familial values..! Muslims; are you kidding..???

Khalil
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[yeezevee]

Haik Monsieur is HACKING AWAY Muhammad's Islam., He starts a thread with "Muhammad’s harem..

Sex is a POWERFUL THING in animal kingdom dear Haik., Only HUMAN BEINGS(FEW) have the abilities to keep it under control.,

"ANIMALS DON'T HAVE THAT ABILITY"

with best wishes
yeezevee

[Haik Monsieur]

[yeezevee]

[Haik Monsieur]

BTW, what happened to Muslims? None has come up so far..!

Is it too embarrassing Muslims? that to know your holy man had such a disarrayed family? Come on guys, it is your prophet who said in him you have sublime morals..!

K.
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[farishta]

Based on your information I am planning to write a ditty on the conjugal life of Mo to the tune of

Shame & Scandal in the Family

pray to the muse of poesy to bless my effort.

[yeezevee]

[Husayn]

The Prophet was a red-blooded male, and naturally, he loved women. And he treated his women like delicate flowers.

I think mr mansour is a bit jealous. Perhaps he is a virgin, not having felt the touch of a female? Or perhaps he is Amish.
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In the name of Allah, the Compassionate, the Merciful.

Lo! We have given thee Abundance (O Muhammad);

So pray unto thy Lord, and sacrifice.

Lo! it is thy insulter (and not thou) who is without posterity (future hope).

Surat al-Kawthar

[Haik Monsieur]

[skynightblaze]

[yeezevee]

Husayn responds to Haik Monsieur:

[katlike]

Husayn:

[Husayn]

The jealousy is unbelievable!!
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In the name of Allah, the Compassionate, the Merciful.

Lo! We have given thee Abundance (O Muhammad);

So pray unto thy Lord, and sacrifice.

Lo! it is thy insulter (and not thou) who is without posterity (future hope).

Surat al-Kawthar

[sum]

Hello Husayn

Do you think that the example that Muhammad set when he had sex with 9yr old Aisha should be followed today or should it be rejected as unacceptable?

sum

[ABI FATHAN]