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FinallyFree
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So wait
First of all you are defending Muslims by not being Nazis, and then you are advocating Dr David Duke, who is a known Nazi sympathiser, supporter and admirer of Hitler?
You suffer from the practice that many Muslims do, which is hypocracy.
By the way, the reason Ali Sina and others can't disclose their details is because nutcases like yourself (who are still allowed to come on FFI) would track them down and kill them or harrass them. If they were ex christians or ex jews, they would be left alone. Try figuring that out. |
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Samir
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| FinallyFree said : People forget to mention that the biggest Waffen SS division was an Islamic only division-the handjar SS. Made by the Mufti of Jerusalem, who was probably the most respected Mufti in the Islamic world. |
 . What stupid ignorant man .
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| FinallyFree said : Maybe two or three thousand Muslim soldiers fought against Hitler. Hundreds of thousands fought for him. |
According to French there were 200K Muslims from North Africa alone who joined allies and you are saying 2 or 3 K
The tale of a group of African soldiers who join the French in their fight against the Nazis. Although they passionately battle to defend the motherland, a place they’ve never been, they face inequality and daily humiliation within the French army. These heroes that history forgot won battles throughout Europe before finding themselves alone to defend a small village against a German battalion... See Full Description
Genres: Art/Foreign, Drama and War
Running Time: 2 hrs.
Release Date: February 16th (limited)
MPAA Rating: R for war violence and brief language.
U.S. Box Office: $317,594
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indig%C3%A8nes
During World War II, soldiers from some 23 nationalities in France’s colonial empire fought against the country’s occupation by Nazi Germany. Referred to as “indigènes” or natives, they were treated as inferiors, ill-equipped, denied leaves of absence and after the war often received pensions a fraction of the size awarded their French counterparts.Hundreds of thousands of these soldiers were drawn from North Africa. Among them, Algerians were involved in some of the heaviest combat as frontline infantrymen fighting in Italy, France and Germany.
so go dummy learn history before you come here debate me on the subject
The “African Army” is the formal name for the more than 200,000 North African fighters in the French military. No amount of heroism and sacrifice, however, prevents the colonial power’s army brass from dubbing them “wogs.” Forced to wear different uniforms, they are set apart even further from the French soldiers.
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2007/apr2007/indi-a02.shtml
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FinallyFree
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They didn't care about jews or nazism. They joined for nationalist reasons.
Im sure the bosnians who joined the SS were not defending their homelands, rather killing jews and serbs. |
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Samir
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| FinallyFree wrote: |
So wait
First of all you are defending Muslims by not being Nazis, and then you are advocating Dr David Duke, who is a known Nazi sympathiser, supporter and admirer of Hitler?
You suffer from the practice that many Muslims do, which is hypocracy.
By the way, the reason Ali Sina and others can't disclose their details is because nutcases like yourself (who are still allowed to come on FFI) would track them down and kill them or harrass them. If they were ex christians or ex jews, they would be left alone. Try figuring that out. |
can you explain to me this????
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Shamir proposes an alliance with the Nazis
"As late as 1941, the Zionist group LEHI, one of whose leaders, Yitzhak Shamir, was later to become a prime minister of Israel, approached the Nazis, using the name of its parent organization, the Irgun(NMO)..[The proposal stated:] 'The establishment of the historical Jewish state on a national and totalitarian Pd bound by a treaty with the German Reich would be in the interests of strengthening the future German nation of power in the Near East...The NMO in Palestine offers to take an active part in the war on Germany's side'...The Nazis rejected this proposal for an alliance because, it is reported, they considered LEHI's military power 'negligible.' " Allan Brownfield in "The Washington Report on Middle Eastern Affairs", July/August 1998. |
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Samir
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| FinallyFree wrote: |
They didn't care about jews or nazism. They joined for nationalist reasons.
Im sure the bosnians who joined the SS were not defending their homelands, rather killing jews and serbs. |
I thought you said there were 2 or 3 k . why you are not saying same thing about americans they too did care about Jews or nazism they only joined war after hitler declared war on them |
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FinallyFree
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| FinallyFree wrote: |
So wait
First of all you are defending Muslims by not being Nazis, and then you are advocating Dr David Duke, who is a known Nazi sympathiser, supporter and admirer of Hitler?
You suffer from the practice that many Muslims do, which is hypocracy.
By the way, the reason Ali Sina and others can't disclose their details is because nutcases like yourself (who are still allowed to come on FFI) would track them down and kill them or harrass them. If they were ex christians or ex jews, they would be left alone. Try figuring that out. |
can you explain to me this????
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Shamir proposes an alliance with the Nazis
"As late as 1941, the Zionist group LEHI, one of whose leaders, Yitzhak Shamir, was later to become a prime minister of Israel, approached the Nazis, using the name of its parent organization, the Irgun(NMO)..[The proposal stated:] 'The establishment of the historical Jewish state on a national and totalitarian Pd bound by a treaty with the German Reich would be in the interests of strengthening the future German nation of power in the Near East...The NMO in Palestine offers to take an active part in the war on Germany's side'...The Nazis rejected this proposal for an alliance because, it is reported, they considered LEHI's military power 'negligible.' " Allan Brownfield in "The Washington Report on Middle Eastern Affairs", July/August 1998. |
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Yes one or two zionist nutcases thought it would be better to ally with one enemy (hitler) rather then the other (britain), it doesnt mean anything. I havent seen any jewish SS divisions apart from a few internal policemen.
Also, you are avoiding my question about David duke.
Also, I can admit when I was wrong, and I was wrong about the figures. However, can you say that the intentions of muslims fighting for the allies and the ones fighting for the axis were the same?
For example, the Finns and Swedes who were in the SS were largely forgiven for their part in the war, as they were mostly just defending their land against a USSR invasion even if it was done under the name of the axis. However, a German concentration camp soldier (under the same banner) would have been sentenced to death or prison for a very long time for his part. You see the differance? Everyone had their reason for joining, and the muslim reason for joining the nazis was less then pious. While the muslim reason for joining the allies was largely self centered (understandable) in nature and therefore wasn't a glorius attempt. |
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TheYoungReservist
Joined: 26 Jul 2006
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Location: Northern Israel
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Samir wrote:
Wait,aren't you our old buddy Berber coming out of the closet?
You use the same idiotic lines,bring the same fake quotes and sources..
Aren't you supposed to start ranting now about how a bunch of Berbers won WW2??
I knew you wouldn't be able to resist this forum,you're obsessed.
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