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sat sri akal
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 Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 4:05 pm Post subject: islamic atrocities on sikhism |
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These people were true martyrs in the name of god. Instead of converting they gave theirs live to the one true god for all. |
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yeezevee
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welcome to FFI dear sat sri akal
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYmYQDQ1gUA
These people were true martyrs in the name of god. Instead of converting they gave theirs live to the one true god for all. |
That is indeed true but Dear sat sri akal., I wonder about the folks of OLD PUNJAB., which involves present Pakistan , India all the way to the borders Afghanistan..even part of present Afghanistan., The fascinating question is .. essentially same folk with same/similar gene pool took up three religions.. Oldest Hinduism, medieval Islam and youngest Sikhism...Their Characters and their out look is entirely different.. (May Some part of Hindus and Sikhs may agree with each other) But Punjabi Muslims are way different. I wonder whether you could explain such phenomenon..
with best wishes
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BlackStaR
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| Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 1:15 am Post subject: Re: islamic atrocities on sikhism |
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| sat sri akal wrote: |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYmYQDQ1gUA
These people were true martyrs in the name of god. Instead of converting they gave theirs live to the one true god for all. |
Welcome sat sri akal. The notion put forward by the guru's " One true god" in reality, doesnt exist. "God" can be " Gods" logically. Only Mohammedans and Jesusists argue to the full that there is only one " God". Not in the tradition of india. Sikhism drifted and toyed around with mohammedan idea.
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crazy canuck
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| Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 1:50 am Post subject: |
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| yeezevee wrote: |
welcome to FFI dear sat sri akal
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYmYQDQ1gUA
These people were true martyrs in the name of god. Instead of converting they gave theirs live to the one true god for all. |
That is indeed true but Dear sat sri akal., I wonder about the folks of OLD PUNJAB., which involves present Pakistan , India all the way to the borders Afghanistan..even part of present Afghanistan., The fascinating question is .. essentially same folk with same/similar gene pool took up three religions.. Oldest Hinduism, medieval Islam and youngest Sikhism...Their Characters and their out look is entirely different.. (May Some part of Hindus and Sikhs may agree with each other) But Punjabi Muslims are way different. I wonder whether you could explain such phenomenon..
with best wishes
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DearYee,
This thread belongs to Islam vs Other Religions as it concerns Sikhism and Islam. Please move this thread there if you can.
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sat sri akal
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| Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 12:32 am Post subject: Re: islamic atrocities on sikhism |
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| BlackStaR wrote: |
| sat sri akal wrote: |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYmYQDQ1gUA
These people were true martyrs in the name of god. Instead of converting they gave theirs live to the one true god for all. |
Welcome sat sri akal. The notion put forward by the guru's " One true god" in reality, doesnt exist. "God" can be " Gods" logically. Only Mohammedans and Jesusists argue to the full that there is only one " God". Not in the tradition of india. Sikhism drifted and toyed around with mohammedan idea. |
Im sorry mate but you are wrong, sikhism is about one god,
ੴ ਸਤਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਕਰਤਾ ਪੁਰਖੁ ਨਿਰਭਉ ਨਿਰਵੈਰੁ ਅਕਾਲ ਮੂਰਤਿ ਅਜੂਨੀ ਸੈਭੰ ਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥
Ik oankar satinamu karta purakhu nirbhau nirvairu akal murati ajuni saibhan gurprasadi
translates to
One Universal Creator God,The Name Is Truth,Creative Being Personified,No Fear,No Hatred,Image Of
The Timeless One,Beyond Birth,Self Existent,By Guru's Grace.
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crazy canuck
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| Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 6:14 pm Post subject: Re: islamic atrocities on sikhism |
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| sat sri akal wrote: |
| BlackStaR wrote: |
| sat sri akal wrote: |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYmYQDQ1gUA
These people were true martyrs in the name of god. Instead of converting they gave theirs live to the one true god for all. |
Welcome sat sri akal. The notion put forward by the guru's " One true god" in reality, doesnt exist. "God" can be " Gods" logically. Only Mohammedans and Jesusists argue to the full that there is only one " God". Not in the tradition of india. Sikhism drifted and toyed around with mohammedan idea. |
Im sorry mate but you are wrong, sikhism is about one god,
ੴ ਸਤਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਕਰਤਾ ਪੁਰਖੁ ਨਿਰਭਉ ਨਿਰਵੈਰੁ ਅਕਾਲ ਮੂਰਤਿ ਅਜੂਨੀ ਸੈਭੰ ਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥
Ik oankar satinamu karta purakhu nirbhau nirvairu akal murati ajuni saibhan gurprasadi
translates to
One Universal Creator God,The Name Is Truth,Creative Being Personified,No Fear,No Hatred,Image Of
The Timeless One,Beyond Birth,Self Existent,By Guru's Grace.
(GG. Pg 1). |
Dear Sat,
Quote from Upanishad to convince Blackstar that Ohm, Ohmkar , eternal bliss( satchidanad),eternal soul, supreme soul ideas are very ancient .It was not derived from Abrahmic religions.
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BlackStaR
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| Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 3:47 am Post subject: Re: islamic atrocities on sikhism |
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| sat sri akal wrote: |
| BlackStaR wrote: |
| sat sri akal wrote: |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYmYQDQ1gUA
These people were true martyrs in the name of god. Instead of converting they gave theirs live to the one true god for all. |
Welcome sat sri akal. The notion put forward by the guru's " One true god" in reality, doesnt exist. "God" can be " Gods" logically. Only Mohammedans and Jesusists argue to the full that there is only one " God". Not in the tradition of india. Sikhism drifted and toyed around with mohammedan idea. |
Im sorry mate but you are wrong, sikhism is about one god,
ੴ ਸਤਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਕਰਤਾ ਪੁਰਖੁ ਨਿਰਭਉ ਨਿਰਵੈਰੁ ਅਕਾਲ ਮੂਰਤਿ ਅਜੂਨੀ ਸੈਭੰ ਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥
Ik oankar satinamu karta purakhu nirbhau nirvairu akal murati ajuni saibhan gurprasadi
translates to
One Universal Creator God,The Name Is Truth,Creative Being Personified,No Fear,No Hatred,Image Of
The Timeless One,Beyond Birth,Self Existent,By Guru's Grace.
(GG. Pg 1). |
 There are more than one god. Sikhism is wrong and definitely blunt in identifying and differentiating between a god, gods or whatsoever with the cosmic energy. The cosmic energy is not god. But from the cosmic energy, came many god or gods or goddesses.
carzy canuck... as i understand it
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IandonlyI
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| Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 2:47 am Post subject: Re: islamic atrocities on sikhism |
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| sat sri akal wrote: |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYmYQDQ1gUA
These people were true martyrs in the name of god. Instead of converting they gave theirs live to the one true god for all. |
SSA the video is no longer available.
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IandonlyI
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Both SSA and CC and BC are wrong. Sikhism is not about one god like monotheistic religions because Sikhism believes there is only one God but sikhism also believes that same god is in all unlike monothiestic religions at the same time Sikhism is not about many Gods either which is obvious without any arguments.
You should look up monotheistic panantheism. But then I am no pundit of any philosophy really so no offence to anyone.
BC, you should re-read SSA's post and then re-read yours. what is SSA saying and what are you talking about? You dont have to admit to all but just to yourself of how much of troublemaker you are. No offence again. And BTW, there are not many Gods but just one. The many gods you see in temples are all for ignorats to understand the only ONE god. You should read up on Sagun Brahman and Nirgun Brahman if you dont trust me.
Hey, I recently read a lot so I can say few more things here....
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jessy
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| Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 10:22 pm Post subject: Re: islamic atrocities on sikhism |
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| sat sri akal wrote: |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYmYQDQ1gUA
These people were true martyrs in the name of god. Instead of converting they gave theirs live to the one true god for all. |
Sikhism is a violent religion and Sikh Guru's are promoters of violent. I find Sikhs to be low in intelligence, narrow in their outlook, violent, Have a pack mentality, have nothing original in their religions but stolen ideas from other religions.
You have to understand in confronting barbarians coming from North west, the Sikhs eventually became the very barbarians that they confronted.
This is only natural. |
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DSingh
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lol... 
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diametric
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| Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 12:40 pm Post subject: |
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is Sikhism
Islam+ Hinduism ?
where did they get the turbines from ? |
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IandonlyI
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| Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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| diametric wrote: |
is Sikhism
Islam+ Hinduism ?
where did they get the turbines from ? |
No and Turbines? 
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BlackStaR
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| diametric wrote: |
is Sikhism
Islam+ Hinduism ?
where did they get the turbines from ? |
diametric, it is a terrible concoction of terror and dharma. Sikh gurus made the fundamental mistake of interpreting the vedas and kkkran to come up with their own version of religion. Their intention was good , but unfortunately, the gurus didnt realize what the things these mohammedans were doing in India at that time. I wouldnt blame them as it was not the time when information can reach the fingertips within seconds.
And if it was today yesterday, i can guarantee you, every single indians would have retaliated and burn these mohamedans together with their pork stew. Modern technology came a bit too late.
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observant9
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| Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 10:47 am Post subject: |
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| diametric wrote: |
is Sikhism
Islam+ Hinduism ?
where did they get the turbines from ? |
He means the TURBANS, i.e. the headgear worn by sikhs. It gives them a sense of identity and a feeling of belonging to a fraternity.
Nothing strange or wrong in it. Every culture has its own peculiarities and specialities. One must develop a sense of mutual respect and understanding for other's traditions with genuine feeling.
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