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Sorge

Joined: 13 Mar 2004 Posts: 6808 Location: Against the Tide
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Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 1:31 am Post subject: |
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Cyberite;
Come on. Say it out loud. You do hate Bush. It isn't that hard to admit the truth.
For example, I don't feel 'disdain' for you. I hate you, pure and simple. _________________ "[Civilization] ... becomes a partnership not only between those who are living, but between those who are living, those who are dead, and those yet to be born." --Edmund Burke, Reflections [1791] |
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Sorge

Joined: 13 Mar 2004 Posts: 6808 Location: Against the Tide
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Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 2:01 am Post subject: |
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Well Cyberite;
Have you ever been diagnose with herpes?
hemorroids?
senility?
Two can play this game. _________________ "[Civilization] ... becomes a partnership not only between those who are living, but between those who are living, those who are dead, and those yet to be born." --Edmund Burke, Reflections [1791] |
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Sorge

Joined: 13 Mar 2004 Posts: 6808 Location: Against the Tide
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Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 2:03 am Post subject: |
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Furthermore: "It is not very intelligent to hate people you've never met".
Hitler. Stalin. Mao Zedong. Pol Pot. Michael Moore. Osama bin Laden.
Or what is it, do you merely 'disdain' those people. _________________ "[Civilization] ... becomes a partnership not only between those who are living, but between those who are living, those who are dead, and those yet to be born." --Edmund Burke, Reflections [1791] |
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Longbow
Joined: 17 Feb 2004 Posts: 630 Location: Where Dinosaurs and free men roam
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Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 2:04 am Post subject: |
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I read my history and I'm very good at it,it would had been my career if not for the simple matter of practicality .I just never bothered to read the revised version of Western history from the likes of Howard Zinn and others.
Cyberite, Northern,Southern,Western,Central and Eastern Europe was drawn up to identify various countries that lies in those regions.But during the Cold War,the demarcation line between Western Europe and Eastern Europe was made by was not by language or ethnicity but by politics and that was carried on until now even when those inside the Iron Curtain are now free democratic countries.You carried the arrogant Western European outlook that they are the true europeans just because they lived in the West all their lives and that is a damn shame.Pity,they need the Eastern Europeans to make EU the superstate they want it to be. _________________ There is nothing more vile than the tyranny of the majority and there is nothing more cruel than the oppression by the minority. |
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Longbow
Joined: 17 Feb 2004 Posts: 630 Location: Where Dinosaurs and free men roam
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Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 2:06 am Post subject: |
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Oh,by the way,the synonyms of disdain
Main Entry:
disdain
Part of Speech:
noun
Definition:
hate
Synonyms:
antipathy, arrogance, aversion, contempt, contumely, derision, despisal, despisement, despite, dislike, disparagement, hatred (I can see this word over here),haughtiness, hauteur, indifference, insolence, loftiness, morgue, pride, ridicule, scorn, sneering, snobbishness, superbity, superciliousness _________________ There is nothing more vile than the tyranny of the majority and there is nothing more cruel than the oppression by the minority. |
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Humanist
Joined: 04 Sep 2004 Posts: 8520 Location: Kentucky, USA
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Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 3:30 am Post subject: |
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Just think folks that for four weeks no one was called a nasty name or insulted.
Now we are back to being ignorant again in the presence of the grand poobah! _________________ "Good people sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." - George Orwell |
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gordangekko
Joined: 29 Jan 2005 Posts: 4
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Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 4:39 am Post subject: condi rice |
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I think she has an uphill battle to start with. Most of the State department working under her are very anti-bush, she may need to clean house before being able to get anything done.
I do think we will get attacked in the next four years and this admin. will be forced to deal with the Islam issue. It's just too bad that it's gonna take something like that for our goverment to do anything...
only 17% of people who voted for Kerry agree that military action should be used to fight Jihadists ( Fox poll) just a tidbit I just read on the internet... Big question is what the 83% think we should do about the people who are trying to kill us |
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scaredguy
Joined: 08 Jun 2004 Posts: 1239
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Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 2:33 pm Post subject: |
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Comment on Condoleeza Rice in Jang (a pakistani newspaper, 31.01.05)
A realist's hollow words
That she will strive to use American diplomacy to spread democracy across the world was one of first public comments by Dr. Condoleeza Rice, after taking oath as the United States Secretary of State on January 28, 2005. Building on the anti-terrorism rhetoric of the Bush administration, Rice said that the United States did not simply want absence of terrorism, but sought a world where the "aspirations for freedom of men and women triumph". There can never be two opinions about the need for democracy and freedom. However, such noble ambitions coming from a radical rightwing 'realist' only ring hollow. If the way democracy was planted in Afghanistan and Iraq at a cost of innumerable lives and human suffering is any indication of how Dr. Rice's mind works, the world will perhaps be more insecure than ever before as long as she retains the office.
It is unfortunate that the American view on democracy is not what the world would like it to be. The world's only super power has used the charade of spreading democracy to push its strategic and corporate interests. It has had no problems in dealing with totalitarian nations such as China and Saudi Arabia, which have inter-locking interests with its corporations, but Washington huffs and puffs when an elected president of Venezuela poses a threat to its companies. The US also has no problem in allying with states like Pakistan, Russia, Kuwait, Qatar, Uzbekistan and Egypt, where democracy is more symbolic than real and which are effectively under authoritarian rules. The case of Libya is also an interesting example of American double standards. But as long as these undemocratic states continue to stay in line and support the American geo-strategic interests, the USA is least bothered about the state of democracy. Democracy and freedoms are only a source of concern in states that refuse to take the American diktats.
It is perhaps against this backdrop that Dr. Rice's statement sounded more like a new facade for expanding the scope of global conflict that Washington initiated in 2001 in the name of eradicating terrorism. The Americans may have got rid of the regimes they disliked and coerced those states with independent policies to fall in line in this massive global swoop against terrorism. Along the way, the hollowness of American commitment to human freedom and liberties has been exposed. The price of democracy and freedom has been paid with the lives of non-combatants of all ages, but that was just shrugged off as collateral damage. The billions of dollars that have gone in democratization and freeing people from undemocratic regimes the hard way would have been sufficient to eradicate the widespread suffering that rests at the roots of anti-American sentiment globally. The realist way to world affairs may not always yield dividends as desired. An idealist tinge at times involves less long terms costs and brings greater results. |
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Humanist
Joined: 04 Sep 2004 Posts: 8520 Location: Kentucky, USA
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Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 11:57 pm Post subject: |
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Geeze, did DesertDweller write that piece? It sounded exactly like him.
I love a bunch of losers condemning the United States. They are so damned brilliant why does no one ever listen to ideas? Of course they can condemn the United States because they may be in jail if they look too closely at their own governments. _________________ "Good people sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." - George Orwell |
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Samurai_Jack

Joined: 24 Dec 2004 Posts: 2782
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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 7:04 am Post subject: |
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Condi Rice is perfect for the position Secretary of State. Powell needed to go, too much an appeaser behaving kinda like Koff Annan. Powell makes the same mistakes the liberals do, believing by playing nice to everybody terrorism will end.
With terrorism on the rice and the OIC apologising for Muslim terrorism, what we need is someone tough like her. Liberals hate her because she is black and can't pin the Republicans with the usual 'racist' label anymore. This is the real reason they truly hate her. _________________ India is a geographical term. It is no more a united nation than the Equator.
Winston Churchill...Evolutionary fairy tales for grown ups http://www.evolutionfairytale.com/articles_debates/evolutiondefinition.htm |
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scaredguy
Joined: 08 Jun 2004 Posts: 1239
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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 8:57 am Post subject: |
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Condoleeza is bothered about her own image of greatness - "I the great black woman who has made it to the top among the whites".
She is not bothered about the future of mankind.
The whole Bush team is a bunch of such Nero-like nuts - and Bush the top one among these Neros. It's the typical republican party gang - filling their own pockets is more important for them. But talk they do about human rights and freedoms and democracy etc. to fool the simple minded US-americans so that these guys naively send their sons to die for these pocket-fillers. |
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Samurai_Jack

Joined: 24 Dec 2004 Posts: 2782
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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 9:35 am Post subject: |
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| What a load of BALONEY! |
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.........Eeeeeeeeeeeeeee.....Oooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!! See, I too can sound as intelligent as Cyber here. When I grow up I want to be just like you Cyber!
Stupid Rice Krispies, using her Black vagina to attract white men!!! Yes!! Thats the real reason she wants to be Secretary of State!! How dare she do that!! You know what they say, you need to have a taste of that 'brown sugar' to know what it's all about. He he he he.... Are you proud of me Cyber? LOL! _________________ India is a geographical term. It is no more a united nation than the Equator.
Winston Churchill...Evolutionary fairy tales for grown ups http://www.evolutionfairytale.com/articles_debates/evolutiondefinition.htm |
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Alkaliel
Joined: 12 Nov 2004 Posts: 2879
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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 10:08 am Post subject: |
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Are you still discussing how Condi will be serving as the Secretary of State????
Some people want her to be a president!!!
http://www.condi4prez.com/ |
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Humanist
Joined: 04 Sep 2004 Posts: 8520 Location: Kentucky, USA
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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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Are you still discussing how Condi will be serving as the Secretary of State????
Some people want her to be a president!!!
http://www.condi4prez.com/ |
I can sure think of worse Presidents. Just like John Kerry. What a sore loser! _________________ "Good people sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." - George Orwell |
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nomad

Joined: 01 Apr 2004 Posts: 6320 Location: Allahpalooza
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Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 5:32 am Post subject: |
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What a load of BALONEY!
Nobody "hates" her because she is black. Like Bush, she is an incompetent. Anyone who ignores a memo that says ObL wants to attack is not fit for this job! |
What a load of BALONEY!
Here's the full text of the memo that's alleged to be an indication in details of how bin Laden will attack the US...
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/04/10/august6.memo/
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| ...that his followers would follow the example of World Trade Center bomber Ramzi Yousef and "bring the fighting to America." |
America, meaning the US, is a pretty big place that touches two oceans. So how is anyone, shall we say Kerry, to determine the correct course of actions to defend US?
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| Al Qaeda members -- including some who are U.S. citizens -- have resided in or traveled to the U.S. for years, and the group apparently maintains a support structure that could aid attacks. |
That's a pretty broad base of suspects, how could anyone, shall we say Kerry, would zero in on a John Walker-like American Taliban in a gated and gentrified neighborhood, like those the Kerrys are living in? An imprecise report deserves as wide a dragnet as possible with increasing levels of prejudices on the part of the authority in order for them to comply with a presidential directive to protect America. _________________ "We do not differentiate between those dressed in military uniforms and civilians; they are all targets in this fatwah," Osama bin Laden 1998
"I consider every American my enemy." Zacarias Moussaoui 2006 |
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