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Politicallyincorrectlib
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| Shiraz Maher wrote: |
| Until recently, I would have shared that view, but since personally rejecting extremism myself, I've been re-examining the issues which I once regarded as conclusive. |
Sounds like the author of this article is ex-Muslim himself, and if not, he's certainly on his way to full enlightenment. 
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kingking
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i dont want start a storm but i think when you leave islam that should be it. jumping from islam to cristianity would be like jumping from the frying pan into the fire.europe became tolerant when it became less religious the same with islamic countries .We dont want to go back to time of the american genocide or the crusades etc or the arab invasion
we need to work toghether to eradicate all main religions that have caused crime against humanity including cristianity.
It may not be cult now but it was one at one time. |
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WesternCanuck
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Kingking, if you cannot see the VAST difference between Islam and Christianity, I would have to say that it is you that is the radical and that your radical secularism is every bit as dangerous as radical islam...probably more so....
Give your head a good shake and learn Western History properly and why Christianity in particular gave us our freedoms that only now the radical secularists are trying to eliminate ....
This website's founder himself is intelligent enough to know that Christianity or Judeo/Christianity is a force for good against brutal Islam and that the Church is on the forefront in the War against Islam and has been for 1400 years...looooonnnngg before any 'brave' secularist even gave islam a thought.....And Mr. Sina is no Christian by any means but he is intelligent enough to understand that alliances have to be built against Islam...
Secularism hasn't a chance to defeat islam...it is with an alliance of many beliefs that can defeat islam.....that is what we are building here.... |
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Fire
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no religion is better than the other
aslong as people are stupid enough to reject solid evidence of science and still believe that an invisible being poped humans into the earth few thousands of years ago
sure christianity has adapted to the modern world but go back a little more in history to the dark ages and you'll know its roots |
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Ram
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| kingking wrote: |
i dont want start a storm but i think when you leave islam that should be it. jumping from islam to cristianity would be like jumping from the frying pan into the fire.europe became tolerant when it became less religious the same with islamic countries .We dont want to go back to time of the american genocide or the crusades etc or the arab invasion
we need to work toghether to eradicate all main religions that have caused crime against humanity including cristianity.
It may not be cult now but it was one at one time. |
You said something which is very thaught provoking. Theologically speaking Christianity is as intolerant as Islam. Like Muslims, Christians have slaughterd millions of infidels. The Cathloic church is guilty of committing genocide against the Indians of South America in the name of Jesus Christ so called only son of God.
The halocaust and killing of 6 million Jews by Hitler was the culmination of the Catholic Church blaming Jews collectively for the killing of Jesus Christ almost 2000 years ago. We all know about the inquistion which resulted in mass slaughter and forced conversion of Jews to Christianity about 5 or 6 hundred years ago in Spain.
Not only that Cathloic curch of today is so arrogant that it has appropriated the right to decide who goes to heaven and who goes to hell. Up to very recently, only Catholics were destined for heaven, the rest of mankind will roast in hell for ever. But now the Vatican says that the Protestants, Jews and Muslims may also go to heaven. But according to the Vatican, Hindus, Buddhists and the followers of other Eastern religions will burn in hell for ever. This is what the Catholic Church believes in the 21st century. Absolutely astounding!
We all know about the bigotted hatefull television Christian preachers like Frank Graham (his dad Billy Graham, one of the most hatefull preachers) Benny Hinn and many others. |
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chingachgook
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| Not only that Cathloic curch of today is so arrogant that it has appropriated the right to decide who goes to heaven and who goes to hell. Up to very recently, only Catholics were destined for heaven, the rest of mankind will roast in hell for ever. But now the Vatican says that the Protestants, Jews and Muslims may also go to heaven. But according to the Vatican, Hindus, Buddhists and the followers of other Eastern religions will burn in hell for ever. This is what the Catholic Church believes in the 21st century. Absolutely astounding! |
You don't have to believe that. You have a choice and the Pope don't intend to enforce his Canons with canon balls and handcuffs
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The halocaust and killing of 6 million Jews by Hitler was the culmination of the Catholic Church blaming Jews collectively for the killing of Jesus Christ almost 2000 years ago. We all know about the inquistion which resulted in mass slaughter and forced conversion of Jews to Christianity about 5 or 6 hundred years ago in Spain.
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You are wrong. You just speaking to please the muslims. |
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timepass
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| Ram wrote: |
Not only that Cathloic curch of today is so arrogant that it has appropriated the right to decide who goes to heaven and who goes to hell. Up to very recently, only Catholics were destined for heaven, the rest of mankind will roast in hell for ever. But now the Vatican says that the Protestants, Jews and Muslims may also go to heaven. But according to the Vatican, Hindus, Buddhists and the followers of other Eastern religions will burn in hell for ever. This is what the Catholic Church believes in the 21st century. Absolutely astounding!
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it doesn't matter what catholic church thinks will happen to people of other faith after this life.
what matters is how catholic church treats people of other faith in this life.what matters is what church expects its followers to do with people of other faiths in this life |
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Ram
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it doesn't matter what catholic church thinks will happen to people of other faith after this life.
what matters is how catholic church treats people of other faith in this life.what matters is what church expects its followers to do with people of other faiths in this life. |
You are right. The Catholic church is engaged in many humanitarian endeavours. But it does not change the fact that Catholic church preaches intolerance towards Hindus, Sikhs and Buddhists and followers of other eastern religions. But inspite of that, I must say that Catholics in general are very tolerant. |
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Ram
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| The halocaust and killing of 6 million Jews by Hitler was the culmination of the Catholic Church blaming Jews collectively for the killing of Jesus Christ almost 2000 years ago. We all know about the inquistion which resulted in mass slaughter and forced conversion of Jews to Christianity about 5 or 6 hundred years ago in Spain. |
You are wrong. You just speaking to please the muslims. |
Unfortunately I am right. I am not here to please Muslims. I am working towards the destruction of Islam not of Christianity. I live in a Christian majority country. I do not feel that I am discriminated. I have discussed this issue with many Catholic friends openly. We are still friends. Many Catholics are critical of Hinduism, that does not make them my enemies. |
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jessy
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| The halocaust and killing of 6 million Jews by Hitler was the culmination of the Catholic Church blaming Jews collectively for the killing of Jesus Christ almost 2000 years ago. We all know about the inquistion which resulted in mass slaughter and forced conversion of Jews to Christianity about 5 or 6 hundred years ago in Spain. |
You are wrong. You just speaking to please the muslims. |
Unfortunately I am right. I am not here to please Muslims. I am working towards the destruction of Islam not of Christianity. I live in a Christian majority country. I do not feel that I am discriminated. I have discussed this issue with many Catholic friends openly. We are still friends. Many Catholics are critical of Hinduism, that does not make them my enemies. |
What are they critical about? |
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FreePower
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The Catholic church is to blame for most of the atrocities committed in the name of Christianity. In fact what most people don't know about is that at the time of the crusades there were sects of Christians who were living in peace and the Pope said that anyone who killed one of them would inherit that persons piece of land. It didn't take long for the majority to be killed. In fact they go against most of the things in the Bible itself, that is why I never liked them.
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diotima64
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| FreePower wrote: |
| The Catholic church is to blame for most of the atrocities committed in the name of Christianity. In fact what most people don't know about is that at the time of the crusades there were sects of Christians who were living in peace and the Pope said that anyone who killed one of them would inherit that persons piece of land. It didn't take long for the majority to be killed. In fact they go against most of the things in the Bible itself, that is why I never liked them. |
Stop spouting the usual ignorant protestant lies and go learn some real history and theology, instead of picking bits and pieces of half-digested and not even half understood historical info and scripture.
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FreePower
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| FreePower wrote: |
| The Catholic church is to blame for most of the atrocities committed in the name of Christianity. In fact what most people don't know about is that at the time of the crusades there were sects of Christians who were living in peace and the Pope said that anyone who killed one of them would inherit that persons piece of land. It didn't take long for the majority to be killed. In fact they go against most of the things in the Bible itself, that is why I never liked them. |
Stop spouting the usual ignorant protestant lies and go learn some real history and theology, instead of picking bits and pieces of half-digested and not even half understood historical info and scripture. |
Like most catholics you are brainwashed into anything the church tells you. Go learn some real history.
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