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Knowledge Is The Basis For Understanding True Jihad
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 2:29 am    Post subject: Knowledge Is The Basis For Understanding True Jihad Reply with quote

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Knowledge Is The Basis For Understanding True Jihad
Suzalie Bin Mohamad
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24/06/2008 | The Star
The term ‘Jihad' has become well-known in English nomenclature because of the contemporary political situation and the focus of media on violence. Many people on the street are mislead by the international abuse of its meaning.

In the west, the term ‘Jihad' must be carefully employed. I still remember a friend of mine, an Arab-American Citizen, advised me not to use the term ‘jihad' in our emails and phone conversations. This is because the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) was said to be monitoring phone lines to eavesdrop on suspicious conversations that may threaten their national security.

The term ‘Jihad' has always been misinterpreted to mean as ‘holy war'. Such misrepresentation is highly misleading and inaccurate. The use of the term ‘Jihad' in the Quran is far broader than the application of the term in the political arena. Unfortunately, the term has always been limited to politics.

In the Quran, we find that the term, in the form of verb, is used in conjunction with the expression ‘in the path of God'. The ‘path of God' always refers to the path of right conduct which God has set down in the Quran, and by the examples illustrated by the Prophet (Hadith).

The adherence to right conduct is actually the real challenge and measure of one's faith in God. It is a total submission or surrender to God's will. It is His will that mankind struggle according to His path. Hence, submission or surrender necessarily requires struggle.

When one exerts enormous ‘struggle' to achieve something, there will always be obstacles. If one is not strong enough to face these obstacles, one will be easily mislead and may deviate from the course. Take for instance, the obstacle in the form of the internal conflict within one's self. Laziness, greed, hatred, lust and so on, if not contained, will mislead.

In one of the Prophet's Hadith, when he had returned to Medina from a battle with the enemies of Islam, he said ‘We have returned from the lesser jihad to the greater jihad'. His companions asked, "O Messenger of God, what ‘jihad' could be greater than the struggle against the enemy?". The Prophet replied, "The struggle against the enemy in your own breast".

From this Hadith, the broader use of the term jihad is clearly manifests. This indicates that the greater jihad is "the inward struggle' toward perfection. This process is called mujahadah, the control of one's bestial desire (nafs). This is jihad in the true sense.

There are five tenets of Islam and six tenets of faith that must be observed by every Muslim. The execution of these tenets requires an inward jihad and an outward manifestation of that jihad. In other words, struggle in the path of God is obligatory for all Muslims. This must be done according to the noble objectives of the right conduct as stated in the Quran and exemplified by the Prophets.

Jihad against the bestial self is crucial and indeed the greatest struggle towards perfection. This is prior over all acts of Jihad as it is the foundation of goodness.

Jihad cannot manifest without knowledge. Knowledge reveals the true essence of jihad. The manifestation of Jihad requires one to understand the fundamental teachings of Islam and apply them to one's daily life.

The misconception of the meaning of Jihad has made many to suffer phobia dan skepticism. Therefore, it is imperative to have knowledgeable and qualified people with wisdom to lead and to correct these misunderstandings. The corruption of knowledge must be eliminated before true Jihad may be carried out and manifest as truth and justice.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 7:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

is this real? did someone really write this whole thing just to explain to me that jihad might mean different things? thats nice of you.

well, exactly what jihad is... jihad is a word, muhammad or your god doesn't own this word, it's a legitimate word and can refer to many things as you say? so what's wrong if I use the word jihad to refer to the massive agressive holy war that muslims are chasing killing the "infidals" where ever they are... in order to get free ticket to heaven and 72 virgins?

that is called Jihad too, and that is what we're talking about.. we don't mind if you have jihad against food in ramadan, and jihad against sex and women... you can do that, call it jihad the way you want, nobody is talking about it in the news..
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 7:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

more on the "Knowledge Is The Basis For Understanding True Jihad"


You're offering me knowledge to understand True Jihad, so consider reading the following:

Osama bin laden, did use the term jihad in his holywar mission to kill the infidals fi sabeel ellah.. are you telling me that he among many terrorists who kill civilians everywhere around the world are actually doing it for "The struggle against the enemy in your own breast" ??? so that's why they blow their breasts up?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some scholar once said that when Arabs use the word jihad with no stipulation (such as jihad of the tongue, or the heart or whatever), they are referring to the violent, struggle to spread Islam struggle.

Okay, fine, I can understand that jihad is a word that can be used to mean just a struggle, but the word crusade can also mean a noble undertaking. Muslims would have us believe that jihad is just a struggle, but no one would be dumb enough to think a crusade is just a noble undertaking.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Honestly, who can still buy into this sort of crap??.. ALL muslim terrorists are openly calling onto jihad against the west, but we should understand the word as a 'inner struggle'?

Whatta whole load o' crap!
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So can we buy the crap these mohammedans churn out to impress thegullible? Certainly not me. this is why our good Doc, Ali Sina, keeps telling not to fall into the trap of Islam. The quran is all about finishing off the mental faculty of any sane person. And the quran does it with style.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



I though JIHAD means to make all things become into Islamic things ( by Islamist ways ) ...


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 3:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

monasjazz wrote:


I though JIHAD means to make all things become into Islamic things ( by Islamist ways ) ...



Very true monasjazz. You learn quick. It is not applicable to hindus, buddhists, christians , jains, sikhs , heck even tree worshippers with exception khalistani sikhs.

Jihad and its wide definitions are only applicable to mohamedans and their delusions with confusing themselves further into the darkness they are already in.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 3:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BlackStaR wrote:
monasjazz wrote:


I though JIHAD means to make all things become into Islamic things ( by Islamist ways ) ...



Very true monasjazz. You learn quick. It is not applicable to hindus, buddhists, christians , jains, sikhs , heck even tree worshippers with exception khalistani sikhs.

Jihad and its wide definitions are only applicable to mohamedans and their delusions with confusing themselves further into the darkness they are already in.




Remember me ? I am a muslim .. hehehe

it is a good idea if you do understand the meaning of JIHAD for a muslim .. not from your ( kuffar ) perspective ..

at least, JIHAD meant to make all things be better ... hehehe


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

monasjazz wrote:
BlackStaR wrote:
monasjazz wrote:


I though JIHAD means to make all things become into Islamic things ( by Islamist ways ) ...



Very true monasjazz. You learn quick. It is not applicable to hindus, buddhists, christians , jains, sikhs , heck even tree worshippers with exception khalistani sikhs.

Jihad and its wide definitions are only applicable to mohamedans and their delusions with confusing themselves further into the darkness they are already in.




Remember me ? I am a muslim .. hehehe

it is a good idea if you do understand the meaning of JIHAD for a muslim .. not from your ( kuffar ) perspective ..

at least, JIHAD meant to make all things be better ... hehehe



hah! I know youare a mohammedan. But there is no such thing as "Jihad" from a kafir perspective. You try and try to lace those words with cream and sugar to make it look good.

In reality, at the end of the day, in the name of self defense, you do the inevitable.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 6:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



dear BlackStar ..

did you meant that JIHAD is a wrong way ?

or JIHAD wasn't a good thing for me as a muslim ?

tell me .. hehehe


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 1:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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dear BlackStar ..

did you meant that JIHAD is a wrong way ?

or JIHAD wasn't a good thing for me as a muslim ?

tell me .. hehehe



no monasjazz... rather than me cutting and pasting something, i'll give you the definition of what it means. just follow the link.

http://www.answers.com/topic/jihad
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 8:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



dear BlackStar ..



if evil is wrong, fight againt to this evil, it is JIHAD ..
eventhough this evil thing done by a muslim ( your brothers or your group )

if infidels is wrong, fight againt to this infidels, it is JIHAD ..

if muslim do wrong thing, fight againt to this muslim who did the wrong thing, it is JIHAD ..

for me , JIHAD meant to make all things be better ..


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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for me , JIHAD meant to make all things be better ..


And things get better by FIGHTING and KILLING?

Sorry, there really are MUCH, MUCH better ways to improve the world.

"Fighting is prescribed for you" is what you believe. However, you forget that the person who said ran away from his first real fight, and that he demanded 20% of all stolen goods.

There is another person who had to say this about fighting "He who lives by the sword, dies by the sword". Dies. That's it. No promise of hoories or paradies, just a promise of death.

I have heard the jihad preachers spit out their venom; don't tell me they will make the world a better place. To even think this is just plain vile.


Dan kenapa "hehehe"? bukankah lucu...
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 5:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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if evil is wrong, fight againt to this evil, it is JIHAD ..
eventhough this evil thing done by a muslim ( your brothers or your group )

if infidels is wrong, fight againt to this infidels, it is JIHAD ..

if muslim do wrong thing, fight againt to this muslim who did the wrong thing, it is JIHAD ..

for me , JIHAD meant to make all things be better ..


You couldn't have proved the article's author is a liar any better way monasjazz. Yours was a brilliant, refreshingly honest post. Thank You.
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