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Lyzandra Daria
Joined: 18 Jan 2008 Posts: 919 Location: Safe and sound
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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 8:57 pm Post subject: Christian teenager died after having abortion to avoid ... |
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...to avoid upsetting Muslim boyfriend's family
(by all means...let us not upset the muslim boy's family!!!)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1026005/Christian-teenager-died-having-abortion-avoid-upsetting-Muslim-boyfriends-family.html
A teenage Christian who had an abortion to avoid conflict with her Muslim boyfriend's family died a fortnight after the procedure.
A-level student Manon Jones, 18, aborted the pregnancy at six weeks but became increasingly ill in the days following the termination She told family members she felt light-headed and was bleeding heavily, an inquest heard today.
Miss Jones, who studied and lived in Bristol, returned home alone from a holiday abroad as her condition deteriorated. The teenager, from south Caernarvon, in Wales, booked a taxi and admitted herself to Southmead Hospital, in Bristol, on June 23, 2005. She died four days later.
Speaking at Flax Bourton Village Hall today, Miss Jones's tearful mother Llywela, from Bangor, in North Wales, told the inquest her 'bubbly' daughter was a keen member of the local church's youth club and regularly attended chapel.
Mrs Jones said: 'Manon found it very hard to make a decision to terminate the pregnancy. She wanted to keep the child but there were difficult circumstances which she had to consider with her boyfriend's family and their Muslim religion.'
Mrs Jones said Manon met her boyfriend, Naeem Muzzafar, at college and fell in love with him, later telling her mother: 'I'm besotted with him'.
Mrs Jones travelled to Bristol on June 11, 2005 to be with her daughter, who had taken medication to terminate the pregnancy the day before. She said: 'She was scared. It was a very emotional experience for us both to witness her pass her baby and my grandchild into the bedpan.'
Three days later Miss Jones emailed her mother to complain she was not feeling well. The following day, on June 15, Mr Muzzafar took her back to the hospital for a scan, which she was told was 'normal'.
Miss Jones returned home to Wales to prepare for a holiday abroad with friends on 19 June but continued to complain about bleeding and feeling unwell.
Three days into the holiday, Miss Jones told friends she was too unwell to stay and returned to go to hospital. When Mrs Jones arrived her daughter had already been sent to the intensive care unit, following seizures and cardiac arrest.
Mrs Jones said: 'I stayed with her at the bedside all day and all night and gradually realised that Manon had already left us and was not likely to recover'.
Over the next few days the family and Mr Muzzafar sat with Miss Jones. Mrs Jones said: 'We kept talking to her, stroking her soft hair, holding her bruised hands clinging to any hope that she might pull through somehow while the doctors kept her vital organs stable and carried out various tests.'
On June 27 doctors took the decision to turn off Miss Jones' life support.
Dr Hugh White told the inquest a post-mortem examination revealed Miss Jones died of hypovolemia, an abnormal decrease in blood volume and shock caused by retaining the embryo.
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Unfortunate situation. I don't understand why she chose to terminate the pregnancy no matter how much 'difficulty' it would cause her muslim boyfriend or his family...but it was her decision to make.
the Holy Quran says:
"Come, I will rehearse what God has really prohibited you from: Join nothing as equal with Him; be good to your parents, kill not your children on a plea of poverty; We provide sustenance for you and for them; approach not shameful deeds, whether open or secret; take not life, which God has made sacred, except by a way of justice and law (Chapter 6, Verse 151).
"Kill not your children for fear of want; it is We who provide sustenance for them as well as for you; for verily killing them is a great sin.
(Chapter 17, Verse 31).
Islam prohibits sex before or outside marriage. The purpose of sex according to Islam is to have children. Birth control, however, is NOT prohibited in a marriage.
...if she and the muslim boyfriend knew that a pregnancy would be a 'problem' for HIS family...why wasn't she on birth control and why wasn't HE using protection to prevent a pregnancy. Are males really so stupid as to not take precautions to avoid impregnation? It isn't just the female's responsibility (to take precautions).
'...SHE wanted to keep the child'...so HE must have convinced her that an abortion was the only solution.
Sad and somewhat pathetic...when the whole situation could have been avoided with a little pre-planning or just abstinance. If HE had been a 'good' muslim, he shouldn't have been messing around with her anyway and if SHE was such a 'good christian' she shouldn't have been having sex with him.
religious beliefs make hyprocrits out of otherwise rational people.
>>> _________________ "Faith must have adequate evidence else it is mere superstition"...Alexander Hodge (1823-1886)
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Nymph
Joined: 09 Jul 2007 Posts: 461
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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 7:48 am Post subject: Re: Christian teenager died after having abortion to avoid . |
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| Lyzandra Daria wrote: |
the Holy Quran says:
"Come, I will rehearse what God has really prohibited you from: Join nothing as equal with Him; be good to your parents, kill not your children on a plea of poverty; We provide sustenance for you and for them; approach not shameful deeds, whether open or secret; take not life, which God has made sacred, except by a way of justice and law (Chapter 6, Verse 151).
"Kill not your children for fear of want; it is We who provide sustenance for them as well as for you; for verily killing them is a great sin.
(Chapter 17, Verse 31).
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Sad story, I'm sure its now even worse for the Muslim parents now it is all over the news...
By the way. who is this We mentioned in the Qu'ran?
Is it Muhammed and Allah? The Holy Trinity? Brahma Vishnu Shiva? Larry, Curly and Moe? Can some Muslim give an answer? |
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Sugar'n'Spice
Joined: 17 Sep 2007 Posts: 78
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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 4:18 pm Post subject: |
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| lolol larry, curly and moe !!! ... but a good question and a very sad story |
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Lyzandra Daria
Joined: 18 Jan 2008 Posts: 919 Location: Safe and sound
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:59 am Post subject: Study Finds Abortion Drugs Purchased on Internet Fail ... |
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... in 11 Percent of Cases
Maybe I would have gone this route...
http://www.lifenews.com/int821.html
A new study in a prestigious British medical journal finds that women who purchase drugs from an Internet web site find the pills fail 11 percent of the time. In those cases, women who suffer from failed abortions must seek a surgical abortion or hospital care.
In those failures, women say the abortion was botched and, in many cases, they suffered from severe bleeding.
The study in the British Journal of Obstetrics and Gynaecology surveyed women who use the web site Women on Web to purchase the mifepristone abortion drug.
While the web site, which caters to women in places like Ireland, Northern Ireland and Poland where abortions are illegal, promises the drug is effective up to nine weeks of pregnancy, women say different.
In addition to the high failure rate, the survey found 30 percent of women taking the abortion drugs said they had a negative abortion experience with depression and negative feelings accompanying the abortion.
The Women on Web Internet site features information in five languages and sells the combination mifepristone and misoprostol abortion drug for $110.
The site, run by abortion advocates, claims to help women "gain access to a safe abortion with pills in order to reduce the number of deaths due to unsafe abortions."
Josephine Quintavalle, the head of the British pro-life group Comment on Reproductive Ethics, says the web site does women a disservice.
"This is very worrying indeed. It's like a cynical form of back-street abortion," she explained.
"This is very worrying indeed. It represents further trivialisation of the value of the unborn child. These drugs have side-effects and tragedies will increase," she told the BBC.
Martin Lupton, chairman of the ethics committee of the Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists, also had concerns.
"The problem with termination services available without access to medical oversight is that we know that women often understate their gestation," he told BBC Radio 4. "The very people who may benefit from this service may have problems with literacy and may not understand their underlying medical conditions. They are putting themselves at risk in taking these tablets."
The web site requires women to answer a 25-question survey before purchasing the drug and advises them to have both a pregnancy test and an ultrasound.
The report comes on the heels of news of a British teenager becoming the fourteenth woman to die from using the abortion drug.
Manon Jones had an abortion in June 2005 and bled to death two weeks later, though news of her death only surfaced recently. Jones, an 18-year-old student from Wales, experienced heavy bleeding after the abortion, which was incomplete and left part of the unborn child's body inside her.
Manon's father, Dewi Jones, told an inquest that he was never informed about his daughter's pregnancy or her decision to have an abortion until she checked into Southmead Hospital in Bristol with complications.
He said he would have tried to persuade her against having the abortion.
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If the young woman had sought advice from someone QUALIFIED, they might have informed her of the dangers of her choice. She apparently got the test to confirm pregnancy (possibly a home pregnancy test from a drug store) but didn't have the ultrasound performed BEFORE taking the medication she bought over the internet.
Her choices, I might suggest, were precipitated by the stigma her religion places on premarital sexual intercourse. She felt the need to go about determining whether she was pregnant in a 'secretive' manner and chose the relative anonymity of purchasing an abortion drug through the internet rather than seek professional care...probably because of her 'shame' (religion induced).
Therfore...if I really THINK about it really, really hard, yes, I could make the case that her religion (and the young man's) is to blame in large part for this young woman's senseless, needless, tragic death.
$110 is a lot cheaper than a clinical abortion. But 'society' restricts a woman's procreative choices and passes 'judgement' where none is required. Just like your nasty comment that this young woman couldn't possibly be a christian because not 'REAL' christian would abort her pregnancy.
You are no 'philosopher' Diotima64. What you are, IMO, is a traitor to your gender and a deluded follower of a mythological scheme created by men to control, abuse and subjugate women. You should be ashamed because you are too intelligent. But you aren't...that's unforgiveable.
>>> _________________ "Faith must have adequate evidence else it is mere superstition"...Alexander Hodge (1823-1886)
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chuphu
Joined: 19 Jul 2008 Posts: 16
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both are stupid, i think everybody have a responsibility for what they did, and they didnt.. so it was their fault..  |
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Lyzandra Daria
Joined: 18 Jan 2008 Posts: 919 Location: Safe and sound
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Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 9:54 pm Post subject: Mother's heartbreak as A-level student dies ... |
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...two weeks after taking abortion drugs
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1026005/Mothers-heartbreak-A-level-student-dies-weeks-taking-abortion-drugs.html
A 'bubbly' A-level student died when an abortion went tragically wrong.
Manon Jones, 18, was given two powerful drugs to terminate the six-week pregnancy.
After her condition deteriorated she went to hospital, but doctors were distracted by another emergency and delayed giving her a life-saving blood transfusion for more than four hours.
Her mother told an inquest of the 'worst hours of my life' before medical staff turned off her life-support.
Llywela Jones said the family and her daughter's boyfriend spent days with her in intensive care. 'I gradually realised that Manon had already left us and was not likely to recover,' she said.
'We washed her beautiful dark hair and dressed her in a party dress and gave her a little makeup and jewellery and perfume so that she left the ward looking her best, as she would have wanted.
'To have such a beautiful and precious daughter end her life in such a way, it seemed such an unnecessary tragedy, a mother's worst fears come true.'
In Britain, around one-third of the 131,000 terminations carried out before ten weeks use medical rather than surgical methods, and the figure is rising.
The Government has given the go-ahead for more early abortions using pills at family planning centres, cottage hospitals and even large GP surgeries.
The inquest heard that Miss Jones was a Christian and a keen member of the local church youth club who sang with her family at their chapel in north Wales.
She met Naeem Muzaffar at City of Bristol College where she went to study for three A-levels, and became 'besotted' with him. Her mother said that her daughter opted for an abortion to avoid conflict with her Muslim boyfriend's family.
Mrs Jones told the hearing at Flax Bourton, near Bath: 'Manon found it very hard to make a decision to terminate the pregnancy, she wanted to keep the child but there were difficult circumstances which she had to consider with her boyfriend's family and their Muslim religion.'
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So, it seems, despite this young woman's choice, her life could have been saved if the doctors had been able (or willing?) to attend to her. Perhaps they decided that someone who had an medical emergency (not the patient's fault) and needed medical attention immediately was more worthy than a christian girl who got knocked-up by her muslim lover and decided to terminate the pregnancy.
Who is to say what was in the minds of the medical professionals or for that matter any medical professional.
I have read (don't care to find the article again) that certain medical colleges are requiring students to take religious courses. I can only speculate on what is being taught to medical students in the religous curriculum. It doesn't make me more comfortable even thinking that they are being taught to be more tolerant, compassionate or understanding, since it is a religious course.
>>> _________________ "Faith must have adequate evidence else it is mere superstition"...Alexander Hodge (1823-1886)
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misswhisp
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| Abortion is murder pure and simple, it is against the law of God,if you are a practicing christian then you know this is wrong |
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Ex-muslimah

Joined: 19 Jul 2006 Posts: 909 Location: Scotland somewhere
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Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah it is murder but I smell a fish somewhere in that story somehow _________________ The Borg is si-fi's Islam. The "Collective" is the Ummah and they assimilate the kaffir.
*http://www.karmanirvana.org.uk/* - For if you are in a forced marriage in the UK |
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