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termina
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Whether mountains have root or not, let us see what the Quran has to say about it: “We have made the Earth as an expanse…. (Arabic). …And the mountains as stakes. 78:6-7”. Then Dr. Zakir Naik said,” The Qur’an does not say, mountains were thrown up as stakes… mountain as stakes. Arabic word ‘Autaad’ means ‘stakes’… meaning ‘tent peg’. And today we have come to know in the study of modern Geology, that mountain has got deep roots.
This was known in the second half of the 19th century. And the superficial part that we see of the mountain is a very small percentage. The deeper part is within - Exactly like a stake how it is driven in the ground. You can only see a small part on top - the majority is down in the ground - or like a tip of the ice berg…you can see the tip on the top and about 90% is beneath water. |
In Bible and ancient legends, it's also stated that
mountains have roots. Looooooonnnng before the Quran.
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| Mountains as tent pegs. Mountains to stabilize the Earth. Now let us see a practical example. Imagine the Earth to be a tent, and the mountains as tent pegs. Let us assume earthquakes as severe winds blowing the tent. It will now depend on the strength of the pegs---how deep have they been planted. If their “roots” are weak, the tent can be blown away. If the pegs have been planted firmly, the tent will shake, but it will not be blown away. The place where the tent is firmly fixed can be assumed as an Earth’s orbit, it’s proper place. Now, mountains which are firmly placed on the Earth DO stabiles the Earth. HOW? The Earth is not hindered away from its orbital path. The firm mountains stabilize the earth from hindering away from its orbital path, if any earthquake activity is occurring. And these examples can be the huge mountain ranges—The Himalayas, the Andes, The Swiss Alps, The Rocky Mountain etc. So, the Noble Quran proves itself. Of course, if an unbeliever deliberately refuses to understand it properly, it’s his fault, although he knows that it’s the truth. |
Tectonic plates collide. The consequence of that?
The "creation" of tent pegs and wind as well.
It's silly! it's better to not create tent pegs, because if there are created , the wind is also created.
Evidences support that earthquakes may affect Earth's rotation (around its axis), whereas no evidences prove that they may affect Earth's orbit.
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| winds blowing the tent. It will now depend on the strength of the pegs---how deep have they been planted. If their “roots” are weak, the tent can be blown away. If the pegs have been planted firmly, the tent will shake, but it will not be blown away. |
A stabilization depending on the depth of mountains?
I think you speak about Isostasy. But mountain roots (or 'mountain pegs' if you like) stabilize
(ie, support) nothing but mountains, whether they are firmly fixed or not.
Do mountains prevent the Earth from deviating?
Two "things" are necessary to keep our planet in its orbit:
the gravity of the Sun and the initial speed of Earth.
Without the first "thing", the Earth would travely freely in space and probably fall on the Sun.
Without the second "thing", the Earth would indeed deviate from its orbit.
Moreover, there's no scientific 'evidence' supporting that mountains prevent our planet from hindering away...
By the way, Zulqarnain contradicted Dr.Naik's theory. This doctor thinks that the earth can't shake due to our walking thanks to mountains.
Fortunately, Zulqarnain made his own theory and obvioulsy didn't follow Dr.Naik's theory (which is even more ludicrous).
Viva pseudoscience !!!
Conclusion:
Mountains don't have any function in preventing our planet from deviating. Rather, both Sun's Gravity and Earth's initial speed are supposed to have this function. Here, we notice that (like Harun Yahya, Dr.Naik and Al Naggar) Zulqarnain is making his own science in order to make the Quran scientifically miraculous. But any well-read person will see that the quranic statement about mountains function is totally false.
Obvioulsy, Zulqarnain is either an ignorant or a liar...
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Of course, if an unbeliever deliberately refuses to understand it properly, it’s his fault, although he knows that it’s the truth. |
Rather, a false truth, Zulqarnain!
This quranic information about mountains is single-handedly to prove that the Quran is erroneous.. I'm sure Zulqarnain will cover his ears and shout : "You're an ignorant at geology! The Quran is right, because mountains do stabilize the earth! There are no errors in the Quran! There are no errors in the Quran! I don't wanna go to Hell !! So, there are no errors in the Quran!!!"
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termina
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| Hey, Zulqarnain! Why didn't you answer to my post ? |
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termina
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(Ali Sina) What a ridiculous analogy! Patients go to hospitals AFTER they get sick because they are living and thinking beings and that is where they can get medical attention and get better. They do not become sick in hospitals (unless the hospital is in an Islamic country with Islamic hygiene). Is Dr. Naik trying to compare earthquake, a natural phenomenon, to humans? Do the earthquakes happen first elsewhere and then decide to conglomerate in mountains? This analogy is utterly ridiculous; yet Dr. Naik’s Muslim audience became so elated that they spontaneously cheered and applauded. One black guy was almost falling off his chair of excessive laughing. What these people were laughing at? At their own stupidity? Now the world can see them and laugh at them. It’s as if the more stupid is a statement, the more Muslims enjoy it. This reveals the deplorable intellectual bankruptcy of the wretched Umma.
Mountainous regions cause earthquakes, as they are fault lines connected with each other, spread across the continent. So, it’s a logical answer to a stupid question: “Why would you think there are earthquakes near mountainous regions. And at the same time, why are mountains attending the earthquakes in a mountainous region, when they are not attending earthquakes in a non-mountainous region. I’m surprised at your understanding, seriously surprised. |
let's analyze Dr.Naik's analogy.
Seisms take place, here, in mountainous regions.
Sickness take place in hospital.
Does it make sense, to your opinion?
Generally, sickness takes place in us, then we go to hospital.
Generally, earthquakes takes place elsewhere, then they take up residence in mountainous regions.
Does it make sense, to your mind ?
Moreovoer, the Quran doesn't use the word "jibal" (mountains) when it deals with mountains function, it uses the word "rawasyia". This term means "anchor/mooring" and is, here, a periphrasis for mountains.
Indeed, it highlights the anchoring function of mountains.
Imagine that someone (I call him Mr.X) buys a ship. After sailing, he throws down the anchor and get off his ship. Then, he go to the café.
He drink some coffee. Five minutes later, he go and see his ship. And what does he see? His ship sways and drifts. He shout:
"Oh, sh!t! What's happenning? I'm sure I anchored my ship!"
He checks if he really anchored his ship. The ship does be anchored!
So, he call his salesman:
- Hello! the ship you sold me is crap!!
- Why?
- Its f.cking anchor doesn't work at all. If it prevents swaying movement of my ship, how come I find them in my ship?
-The reply is, that - If I say that medical doctors, they prevent the sickness and disease in a human being, and if someone argues…‘If doctors prevent the sickness and diseases in a human being, how come you find more sick people in the hospitals, where there are more doctors than at home - where there are no doctors.
Do you notice how ludicrous is Dr. Naik's logic?
However, I didn't like the passage on islamic hygien in hospital... |
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