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Would Two Doors Help?

4/20/2012

Bukhari  (Book #3, Hadith #128)

Narrated aswad: Ibn Az-Zubair said to me, “Aisha used to tell you secretly a number of things. What did she tell you about the Ka’ba?” I replied, “She told me that once the Prophet said, ‘O ‘Aisha! Had not your people been still close to the pre-Islamic period of ignorance (infidelity)! I would have dismantled the Ka’ba and would have made two doors in it; one for entrance and the other for exit.” Later on Ibn Az-Zubair did the same.

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  1. Amchi Mumbai

    In her book, Islam: A Short History, Karen Armstrong asserts that the Kaaba was dedicated to Hubal, a Nabatean deity, and contained 360 idols that either represented the days of the year,[27] or were effigies of the Arabian pantheon. Once a year, tribes from all around the Arabian peninsula, whether Christian or pagan, would converge on Mecca to perform the Hajj.

    Imoti[28] contends that there were multiple such "Kaaba" sanctuaries in Arabia at one time, but this was the only one built of stone. The others also allegedly had counterparts of the Black Stone. There was a "red stone", the deity of the south Arabian city of Ghaiman, and the "white stone" in the Kaaba of al-Abalat (near the city of Tabala, south of Mecca). Grunebaum in Classical Islam points out that the experience of divinity of that period was often associated with stone fetishes, mountains, special rock formations, or "trees of strange growth."[29] The Kaaba was thought to be at the center of the world with the Gate of Heaven directly above it. The Kaaba marked the location where the sacred world intersected with the profane, and the embedded Black Stone was a further symbol of this as a meteorite that had fallen from the sky and linked heaven and earth.[30]

    According to Sarwar,[31] about 400 years before the birth of Muhammad, a man named "Amr bin Lahyo bin Harath bin Amr ul-Qais bin Thalaba bin Azd bin Khalan bin Babalyun bin Saba", who was descended from Qahtan and king of Hijaz (the northwestern section of Saudi Arabia, which encompassed the cities of Mecca and Medina), had placed a Hubal idol onto the roof of the Kaaba, and this idol was one of the chief deities of the ruling Quraysh. The idol was made of red agate, and shaped like a human, but with the right hand broken off and replaced with a golden hand. When the idol was moved inside the Kaaba, it had seven arrows in front of it, which were used for divination
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaaba

    • is the Qibla i.e. the direction Muslims face during their prayers. It is
      important to note that though Muslims face the Kaaba during prayers, they do
      not worship the Kaaba. Muslims worship and bow to none but Allah.
      It is mentioned in Surah Baqarah:
      “We see the turning of thy face (for guidance) to the heavens: now shall
      We turn thee to a Qiblah that shall please thee. Turn then thy face in the
      direction of the Sacred Mosque: wherever ye are, turn your faces in that
      direction.” [Al-Qur’an 2:144]
      1. Islam believes in fostering unity
      For instance, if Muslims want to offer Salaah (Prayer), it is possible that some
      may wish to face north, while some may wish to face south. In order to unite
      Muslims in their worship of the One True God, Muslims, wherever they may be,
      are asked to face in only one direction i.e. towards the Kaaba. If some Muslims
      live towards the west of the Kaaba they face the east. Similarly if they live
      towards the east of the Kaaba they face the west.
      2. Kaaba is at the Centre of the World Map
      The Muslims were the first people to draw the map of the world. They drew the
      map with the south facing upwards and north downwards. The Kaaba was at
      the centre. Later, western cartographers drew the map upside down with the
      north facing upwards and south downwards. Yet, Alhamdullilah the Kaaba is at
      the centre of the world map.
      3. Tawaf around Kaaba for indicating one God
      When the Muslims go to Masjid-e-Haram in Makkah, they perform tawaf or
      circumambulation round the Kaaba. This act symbolizes the belief and worship
      of One God, since, just as every circle has one centre, so also there is only one
      Allah (swt) worthy of worship.
      4. Hadith of Umar (may Allah be pleased with him)
      Regarding the black stone, hajr-e-aswad, there is a hadith (tradition), attributed
      to the illustrious companion of the Prophet Muhammed (pbuh), Umar (may Allah
      be pleased with him).
      According to Sahih Bukhari, Volume 2, book of Hajj, chapter 56, H.No. 675.
      Umar (may Allah be pleased with him) said, “I know that you are a stone and
      can neither benefit nor harm. Had I not seen the Prophet (pbuh) touching (and
      kissing) you, I would never have touched (and kissed) you”.
      5. People stood on Kaaba and gave the adhaan
      At the time of the Prophet, people even stood on the Kaaba and gave the
      ‘adhaan’ or the call to prayer. One may ask those who allege that Muslims
      worship the Kaaba; which idol worshipper stands on the idol he worships?

      • hat is the difference then between the hindu idols and the Kaba?

        The comparison is an unfair one because while the Muslims bow down to GOD Almighty and only to GOD Almighty in Worship, the hindus pray to and glorify their idols. They address them as "your divinity" and "your holiness". That's clearly idol worship! You must never confuse the House of GOD Almighty, where GOD and His Servants meet, with the man-made idols and statues. Allah Almighty Said:

        "For ye do worship idols besides God, and ye invent falsehood. The things that ye worship besides God have no power to give you sustenance: then seek ye sustenance from God, serve Him, and be grateful to Him: to Him will be your return. (The Noble Quran, 29:17)"

        "And he said: "For you, ye have taken (for worship) idols besides God, out of mutual love and regard between yourselves in this life; but on the Day of Judgment ye shall disown each other and curse each other: and your abode will be the Fire, and ye shall have none to help." (The Noble Quran, 29:25)"

        "And they set up (idols) as equal to God, to mislead (men) from the Path! Say: "Enjoy (your brief power)! But verily ye are making straightway for Hell!" (The Noble Quran, 14:30)"

        "Remember Abraham said: "O my Lord! make this city one of peace and security: and preserve me and my sons from worshipping idols. (The Noble Quran, 14:35)"

        The Muslims on the hand are not idol worshipers. And neither were the Bible's Prophets (including Jesus), peace be upon them, who prostrated to GOD Almighty.

        • Amchi Mumbai

          An interesting quote : You're serving. You're not a servant. Serving is a supreme art. God is the first servant. God serves men but he's not a servant to men.

          What is wrong with idol worship, if you follow Hitler, thats where the problem starts..

  2. Interesting

    our prophet liked both the doors, the front and the back to "enter"……..

  3. Chiulo-Ruiz

    Tawhid is a perverted Islamic concept where idol worshiping (Black stone, Kaaba, Safa (Isaf) and Marwa (Na'ila) and Al-laah (The God – Hubaal) are partnered with Arab Bedouin semi-monotheism as oneness.

    Quran 37:161 – 163 so, surely you (Muslims) and what you worship (Kaaba and Black stone idols), can lead into temptation concerning Allah, save him who will go to hell!

    Sahih Muslim Book 7, Hadith Number 2923 Hisham b.Urwa reported on the authority of his father who narrated from Aisha. He said to Aisha: I think if a person does not run between al-Safa and al-Marwa (mountain idols), It does not do any harm to him. She said: Why? I said: For Allah says: "Surely al-Safa and al-Marwa are among the signs of Allah", whereupon she said: Allah does not complete the Hajj of a person or his Umra (tawaf around Kaaba and Sa'i) if he does not observe Sa'i (search) between al-Safa and al-Marwa; and if it were so as you state, then ["There is no harm for him if he does not circumambulate between them']. Do you know in what context? That the Ansar in the days of ignorance pronounced the Talbiya (intention prayer) for two idols, fixed on the bank of the river which were called Isaf and Na'ila. The people went there, and then circumambulated between al-Safa and al-Marwa and then got their heads shaved. With the advent of Islam they (Muslims) did not like to circumambulate between them as they used to do during the days of ignorance. It was on account of this that Allah revealed: "Surely al-Safa and al-Marwa are among the signs of Allah" She said: Then people began to observe Sa'i.

    Quran 2:158 Surely the Safa and the Marwa are among the signs appointed by Allah; so whoever makes a pilgrimage to the House or pays a visit, there is no blame on him if he goes round them both;…

    Two doors (Paganism and Monotheism) is one door too many. Muhammad only removed 360 idols and retained five – Black Stone, Kaaba, Safa (Isaf), Marwa (Na'ila) and Al-laah (The God – Hubaal) = 365 idols. Islam is retained pagan rituals falsely clothed in monotheism and denial of Islam's pagan elements.

    • MR .THAQYA CHIULU

      WHO GIVE U THE PERMISSION TO DECIDE THE KORANIC VERSES?

      Quran 37:161 – 163 so, surely you (THIS IS THAQYA SIDE OF CHILU ''''''''''Muslims''''''''''''' ANY TRANSLATORS SAYS LIKE THIS,HERE SUITABLE FOR MUSLIM ) and what you worship (Kaaba and Black stone idols), can lead into temptation concerning Allah, save him who will go to hell!

      PEOPLE WHO R THEY ALLAH MENTIONED THE VERSES?
      (37:151 ) Unquestionably, it is out of their [invented] falsehood that they say,
      ( 152 ) " Allah has begotten," and indeed, they are liars[NON BELIEVER].
      ( 153 ) Has He chosen daughters over sons?
      ( 154 ) What is [wrong] with you[NON BELIEVER]? How do you[NON BELIEVER] make judgement?
      ( 155 ) Then will you[NON BELIEVER] not be reminded?
      ( 156 ) Or do you[NON BELIEVER] have a clear authority?
      ( 157 ) Then produce your[NON BELIEVER] scripture, if you[NON BELIEVER] should be truthful.
      ( 158 ) And they have claimed between Him and the jinn a lineage, but the jinn have already known that they [who made such claims] will be brought to [punishment].
      ( 159 ) Exalted is Allah above what they describe,
      ( 160 ) Except the chosen servants of Allah [who do not share in that sin[ BELIEVER]].
      ( 161 ) So indeed, you [disbelievers] and whatever you worship,
      ( 162 ) You cannot tempt [anyone] away from Him
      ( 163 ) Except he who is to [enter and] burn in the Hellfire[WHO MR CHU GO TO HELLFIRE ? YES[NON BELIEVER].

      BETTER TO SURRENDER ISLAM ,INSTEAD OF POSTING LYING …………….

      • Amchi Mumbai

        BETTER TO SURRENDER ISLAM ,INSTEAD OF POSTING LYING ……………

        Yeah you admit it, shabeer . Surrender islam to ali sina. He is the last prophet of yours and vow to him. "Oh Ali Sina, please kindly show these people the light of the day and show how beautiful the world is and how lovable other people are."

      • Indeed, as-Safa and al-Marwah are among the symbols of Allah. So whoever makes Hajj to the House or performs 'umrah – there is no blame upon him for walking between them. And whoever volunteers good – then indeed, Allah is appreciative and Knowing.[2:158]

        IS ANY WHERE IN THE ABOVE VERSES ALL SAYS U CAN PRAY TO SAFA AND MARWA ?

        WHAT R THE PRYER IN BETWEEN SAFA AND MARWA?

        Then he begins with as-Safa – climbing upon it until he can see the Ka'bah.

        Then he faces the Ka'bah – and makes tawhid of Allah and takbir, saying: Allahu akbar allahu akbar allahu akbar – laa illaha illallahu wahdahu laa sharikalahu – lahul mul ku wa lahul hamdu – yuhiu wa yumitu wa huwa ‘ala kulli shai'in qadeer – laa ilaha illallahu wahdahu laa shareekalahu – anjaza wa'dahu wa nasara ‘ abdahu wa hazamal ahzaba wahdahu Saying that three times and making du'a after each time.

        Then he descends for sa'i between Safa and Marwah, as the prophet of Allah said : Make sa'i as Allah has prescribed sa'i for you.

        So he walks till he reaches the green sign-post – on the right and left – then runs quickly till he reaches the next sign-post. And this place was in the time of the Prophet a dried river bed covered with small stones, and the Prophet said: (The river bed is not crossed except with vigour.) Then he walks up to Marwah and ascends it and does upon it as he did upon as-Safa – facing the Qiblah, saying takbir and tahlil and making du'a and that forms one complete circuit.

        Then he returns till he ascends as-Safa – walking in the place for walking, and running in the place for running – and that is a second circuit.

        Then he returns to Marwah – and so on till he completes seven circuits finishing upon Marwah.

        And it is permissible for him to go between Safa and Marwah While riding. However the Prophet preferred to walk.

        And if he makes du'a in sa'i, saying : Rabbighfir warham innaka antal a'azzul akram (O lord forgive and have mercy, verily You are the Most Mighty, Most Noble) then there is no harm as it is authentically reported from a group of the Salaf.

        IT IS THE BEST EXAMPLES OF ONCE OF GOD:

        About Oneness of God/Allah

        Monotheism is the essence of Islam. To understand the purity and uniqueness of Islam, one must first study its concept of monotheism.

        First, Muslims recognize that God alone is Divine, and that no entity nor being shares any of His powers or rights. "God created all things and He is the agent upon which all things depend." [39:62].

        Second, and this is what distinguishes Islam from other faiths. Muslims must not violate the oneness of God in their worship and devotion. There is no praying to, nor through an intermediary, whether it be a prophet, priest, saint or idol. The Prophet made it clear to Muslims that there can only be one object of their worship-God/Allah. There can be no believing in horoscopes, and no fearing "unlucky" numbers. One should only pray to God, put all hope in God, love Him before all else, and only fear the wrath of God. "Do not worship besides God that which cannot help nor harm you." [21:66].

        Third, Islamic monotheism also includes recognizing the perfect names and attributes of God, which He gave himself in the Qur'an. He is Ar-Rahman, the All-Merciful, He created beings in need of that mercy, namely, humans. He is Al-Adl, The Just, and therefore rewards and punishes according to what each person has earned. One cannot compare His love, mercy, wrath, sight, or any other characteristic to that of anyone or anything else. All of the attributes of humankind are created; the attributes of God are not created, but have always existed and are eternal.

        One of the earliest revelations to Prophet Muhammad reads: "Say: He is Allah, the One, Allah, the Self-Sufficient Master upon Whom all depend, He begets not, nor is He begotten, and there is none who is comparable unto Him." [112: 1-4].

        Another beautiful verse, known as 'The Verse of the Kursi/Footstool,' shows more of His attributes: "Allah! None has the right to be worshipped except He, the Ever Living, the One Who sustains and protects all that exists. Neither slumber nor sleep overtake Him. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. Who is he that can intercede with Him except with His permission? He knows what happens to them (His creatures) in this world, and what will happen to them in the Hereafter. And they will never compass anything of His knowledge except that which He wills. His Kursi/footstool extends over the heavens and the earth, and He feels no fatigue in guarding and preserving them. And He is the Most High, the Most Great." [2:255].

        • humanity

          We can form countless words with a few letters. Just like that we can assign umpteen number of Characters & Qualities to God & your prophets views are only some thing among it that's all. Just like you ridiculing Hindu view of God I can make fun of your views like – A God supposed to be HE without a partner(She), what is his gender ? A God Most Merciful yet Most Merciless to Infidels who are his own creation – how it can be ? A God Most Powerful yet Unable to Destroy the Evil – The Saitan. How is it ? What prevents an all powerful God to appear before mankind & declare once for all " See I am your True & Only God". Donot quarrel in my name OR give a Global Audible Broad Cast at once according to every bodies language & say – See I am the only True God & This is only my name & you have to worship me only this way that way etc.

          Pl spare the world to have a peaceful existence. Europe has peaceful time without orthodoxy. Similarly spare Asians to have their peaceful time. God knows what is better for him

  4. I love Japan!

    Kaba is the center of the universe.

  5. kafirun

    pisslam is the central hole in the toilets and qrandic verses are the waste that is dropped in to these bowls and need to flushed out of sight.

  6. and

    The Black stone at kaba is shivling. It is called as sang e aswed. The word aswad derives from sanskrut word ashwet means black. The prophet's uncle Amru ibn Hashim(Abu Jhal) used worship lord Shiva. He has written a poem in arebic for lord Mahadeva(Shiva). Haj was pegan tradition & known as okaj. At that time the pegan arabs were composing poems and best of three were hanged on the wall of kaba. The no 1 poem was written on gold plate,no.2 on silver plate,no.3 on goats skin. After the attack on kaba by Mo,the wealth in the temple was stolen by Islamic jihadist. At the time of Harun al Rashid he asked to collect the ancient arebic literature which was known as Sair ul Okul. Al kubar,Hubble, Al Uzza,Al Manat,Al lat are the names of some pre islamic god.

    • PAGAN NEVER PRYING TI SHVA OR KRISHNA AND RAMA ,THEIR DEVOTEES ARE

      The Three Goddesses
      Allāt (Arabic: اللات‎) or Al-Lāt was a Pre-Islamic Arabian goddess who was one of the three chief goddesses of Mecca. Pre-Islamic Arabs considered her as one of the daughters of Allāh along with Manāt and al-‘Uzzá. She was placed in Taif.[11][clarification needed]
      Al-‘Uzzá (Arabic: العزى‎) "The Mightiest One" or "The strong" was an Arabian fertility goddess who was one of the three chief goddesses of Mecca, Arabs only called upon her or Hubal for protection and victory before war to show how important she was.[12]
      Manāt (Arabic: مناة‎) Was one of the three chief goddesses of Mecca, Arabs believed Manāt to be the goddess of fate, The Book of Idols describes her as the most ancient of all these idols. Some Arabs used to name [their children] 'Abd-Manāt and Zayd-Manāt. Manāt was erected on the seashore in the vicinity of al-Mushallal in Qudayd, between Medina and Mecca. Pagan Arabs used to venerate her and sacrifice before her. The Aws and the Khazraj, as well as the inhabitants of Medina and Mecca and their vicinities, used to venerate Manāt, sacrifice before her, and bring unto her their offerings… The Aws and the Khazraj, as well as those Arabs among the people of Yathrib and other places who took to their way of life, were wont to go on pilgrimage and observe the vigil at all the appointed places, but not shave their heads. At the end of the pilgrimage, however, when they were about to return home, they would set out to the place where Manāt stood, shave their heads, and stay there a while. They did not consider their pilgrimage completed until they visited Manāt.[13]
      Other notable gods
      Manaf (Arabic: مناف‎) The statue of Manaf was caressed by women, but when they had their periods they were not allowed near it.[11]
      Wadd (Arabic: ود‎) God of love and friendship. Snakes were believed to be sacred to Wadd.[11]
      Amm (Arabic: أم‎) Was a moon god worshipped in ancient Qataban. He was revered as a weather god, as his attributes included lightning bolts.
      Ta'lab (Arabic: طالب‎) A god worshipped in southern Arabia, particularly in Sheba. Ta'lab was the moon god. His oracle was consulted for advice.
      Dhu'l-Halasa (Arabic: ذو الحلاس‎) Was an oracular god of south Arabia. He was venerated in the form of a white stone.
      Al-Qaum (Arabic: القوم‎) Was the Nabataean god of war and the night, and also guardian of caravans.
      Dushara (Arabic: ذو الشرى‎) Was a Nabataean god. His name means "Lord of the Mountain"
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabian_mythology

      U'R CLAIM JUST SUPERSCRIPTION LIKE RAM MANDHIR,TAJ MAHAL,IN INDIA THE PAST OF ALL MOSQUE BECOME A TEMPLE ,ITS ONLY A WEAKEST CLAIM,THERE IS NO EVIDENCE TO IT

  7. and

    The Idol of Al Manat was removed from kaba & send to India where it was kept at temple of Somnath(Shiva) located at Gujarat. It was kept there for atleast 300 years. When Mohammad Gazani attack on Somnath at A.D. 1019,he looted the temple & take back the Idol of Al Manat & sent it to Mecca.At Mecca the idol was broken into four pieces & buried at kaba premises. The haj pilgrims are wearing a dress called as ehram is ancient pegan tradition. The ehram is like Vedic traditional dhoti & a plain cloth on shoulders like uttariya as in Vedic tradition.

  8. kafirun

    Shewta means white and ashweta means not white/black.Since the arabs have low IQ and thick tongues, they called ashweta as aswad! Arabs are really stupid and have become stupider with the incoming of pisslam!

  9. taqiyyadIndian

    1 luk at the Kaaba stone & ne Hindu, ex-Hindu will vouch that it is a Sivaling, a Hindu temple was destroyed & used, Hindu temples have idols sorrounding a center main idol. The previous description of Kaaba matches exactly that of a Hindu Temple. The dress whcih these ppl wear during Haj isexactly like the ones Brahmins wear for rituals. The ritual of washing & sipping water 3 times b4 starting prayers is a Hindu ritual. V Hindus think that all rivers and water bodies are sacred & take water from holy places like Ganges river to our folks back home. Islam is nothing but Copy-Paste. But it has copied more from Hinduism than from Christianity or Jewism. Not that it matters but still it must b known how much they hav copied frm Hinduism.

  10. Chiulo-Ruiz

    "MR .THAQYA CHIULU, WHO GIVE U THE PERMISSION TO DECIDE THE KORANIC VERSES??"

    The scribes of Muhammad were 42 in number. Abdallah Ibn Sarh al-Amiri was one of them, and he was the first Quraishite among those who wrote in Mecca before he turned away from Islam. –

    He started saying, "I used to direct Muhammad wherever I willed. He would dictate to me 'Most High, All-Wise', and I would write down 'All-Wise' only. Then he would say, 'Yes it is all the same'. On a certain occasion he said, 'Write such and such', but I wrote 'Write' only, and he said, 'Write whatever you like.'" So when this scribe exposed Muhammad, he wrote in the Quran, "And who does greater evil than he who forges against God a lie, or says, 'To me it has been revealed', when naught has been revealed to him."

    So on the day Muhammad conquered Mecca, he commanded his scribe to be killed. But the scribe fled to Uthman ibn Affan, because Uthman was his foster brother (his mother suckled Uthman). Uthman, therefore, kept him away from Muhammad. After the people calmed down, Uthman brought the scribe to Muhammad and sought protection for him. Muhammad kept silent for a long time, after which he said yes. When Uthman had left, Muhammad said "I only kept silent so that you (the people) should kill him." – Al-Sira by al-'Iraqi

    Say: "Silence does not mean consent" and the corrupt divinity of fake Quran are established as all made up make believe invented by Muhammad and his scribes. Muhammad was an illiterate and could not spell or read the difference. So, the permission to decide verses of Quran was granted by Muhammad.

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