Islamic Hospital
Reality in Islam is often more shocking than any horror story. The newspaper Asr-e Iran reported that passersby spotted two patients in a field outside of Tehran. The two patients were hospitalized in the state funded Khomeini Hospital. Despite being public and allegedly free, they were loaded in an ambulance and dropped in a field for not having the money to pay the bills.
Meanwhile, the government of Iran is financing the construction of mega mosques all over the world, which will be used as barricades to spread Islam.
Iran is contributing 6,000,000 Euros for the construction of this mega mosque in Copenhagen.
In Lebanon, the Hezbollah has won the hearts of millions of people by providing them free health care and free food. The money comes from Iran. The Islamic regime of Iran has been financing the Hezbollah financially and militarily since 1982. Currently, Hezbollah receives approximately $100 million annually in financial support and constant arms shipments from Iran via Syria.
Prior to the revolution, Muslims were also very generous in Iran. They made free delivery of groceries to the poor families. The objective of Islamic charity is to win the hearts of the people and recruit them as their soldiers. Once the objective is achieved they are no longer needed. Unless they can continue supporting the regime, they become a burden.
Millions of Iranians live below poverty line with no hope for their future. Protests will be met with bullets. It is not possible to overthrow a regime that has no qualm butchering any number of people. These pictures only reveal the tip of the iceberg. Most of the atrocities are not reported.
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Any country that follows islam becomes brutal towards its citizens. In islam so many barriers: believers and non-believers; muslims, christians, jews and other kafirs; man and woman; arab and non-arabs; masters and slaves;
As per islam, the islamic countries treat different people in a different manner and within the different group women are treated still very bad. The imams and those in power would get preferential treatment. Other poor fellows have to live a pathetic life.
These two poor patients have been thrown in to the dust to die because those in power might have thought that they will not be of any use in the jihad. Or they might have refused to blow themselves up in a crowded area, where the kafirs assemble or muslims of some other faith conduct prayers.
Muham(mad) and his agent Allah are great and really merciful.
After the death of these two patients there will be real peace.
Now i understand that ISLAM IS A RELIGION OF PEACE.
Muslims are very stingy in general. They do not even pay decent salaries and other perks to their employees unlike employers of other faiths. I have worked in three Muslim companies and also other companies owned by non-Muslims and have seen the difference. Muslims do not contribute to charities except for construction of mosques, Islamic education, Jihad and Dawa.
Typical of Muslims, Islam has no respect for human life, dignity or suffering. I wonder why so many people follow this Pisslam which has no respect for humanity, dont these people who follow islam have an iota of humanity in them?
Those patients look terminally ill.In the civilized world those paramedics would've been charged with attempted murder.
In comparison to any Christian Church, Muslim non-profit organizations helping the poor are proportionally insignificant. Islamic charities are concentrated in building mosques, madrassahs and providing wives to wealthy leaders. Their concept of charity is distorted as well as their morality.
dude! you are all racist. According to the muslim religion and even the law in some islamic countries you must donate ten % of your salary to charity. Or 5 im not sure unless you are too poor then you dont need to. anyway in quran it says you must donate to charity. Not all muslims are bad. It is just a few greedy and bad individuals. you can’t make generelizations like that!
dude the concept of charity is not to be forced to give but to give whenever/how much you want because you care. it's not always money, it could be a hand to help.
Besides, muslims charity is only for muslims. while others' charity is to anyone who needs it.
why do we find in islamic countries too many muslim beggars and homeless on the streets next to large expensive mosques? care to explain?
How they are so Thoroughly Enslaved to a Foreign Ideology OR are their Ruling Class is really of Foreign Origin keeping its native subjects perpetually enslaved
Sinha you are great. Islam is the only reason for terrarisom. In bangladesh same. Khaleda and nizami a great criminal.
Although I have a very negative view of Islam (let's say I am an unconventional leftist from Italy), I have to say that in civilized USA they let you die of treatable diseases if you don't have any health insurance. And in Michael Moore's documentary "Sicko" episodes very similar to the object of this post are documented. I read that Ali Sina, whom I consider an intelligent and articulate person, considers himself a conservative republican. I would like to know his opinion about the barbaric and inhumane lack of universal health care in a country as rich as the USA (I do without politically correctness here, as Ali Sina does when he deals with Islam).
I am conservative but not Republican. I am not an American so I can’t be a Republican. I live in Canada and we have government run health care. I have no problem with that.
Then I suppose you were using the term "republican" in a more general sense at http://iranpoliticsclub.net/authors/ali-sina/inde… . The US Republican party reminds me of the right-wing parties in my country (the left-wing ones have grave defects too, but the right-wing are just unpalatable): in Sicko, the politicians who defended the health insurance system with fervor looked just like the Italian ones when defending Berlusconi: shamelessly arrogant in defending the undefendable, only for selfish benefits (corrupt, in a "legalized" sense or not).
One of these Berlusconi's "bulldogs" is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniela_Santanch%C3%… , the only politician I know brave enough to call Muhammad a pedophile on TV. Few cultured and well-informed people in Italy give credence to politicians like Santanché, and I think it is a problem that learned people associate the criticism of Islam with such politicians. I apologize if I strayed from the topic of the thread.
That description was not written by me. It is written by the owner of the site. He asked me to write something and I delayed so he wrote that description on my behalf. Republican is the GOP of the US. In Canada I vote Conservative although I am not the member of this party.
The health care is a difficult issue. Not all conservatives are against it. Geert Wilders is in favor of Universal Health Care for example.
I must also say it is a thorny subject. The opponents of it also have a valid point. They are not heartless.
Sorry, I suppose that by "republican" you meant that you favor republic over monarchy. Hailing from Italy, the original meaning of the word didn't come to my mind (very few monarchists here), and I didn't know that the adjective referring to the GOP is usually written with the capital first letter.
Yes that is right. I was talking about republicanism with small "r" I am a republican but not a Republican.
I bet Wilders is in favor of Universal Health Care. In Western Europe, any politician who proposed abolishing it would be considered a nazi, bribed by insurance companies, and rightly so, in my opinion. I think that any system which allows even a small part of the population to be deprived of the right to be treated (for any reason) is a heartless system, and that only people brainwashed by propaganda, or very rich and selfish and/or (legally or not) bribed by insurance companies can favor such a system. But since I came to appreciate your critical thinking I am curious to get some links to some arguments to the contrary which you consider plausible, if you please. Finally, I would like to suggest that you to see "Sicko" by Michael Moore, if you haven't yet: I doubt you appreciate Moore, but I venture to say that no one can see that film and still oppose universal health care. Does this ring a bell?
amphicoelias -"have to say that in civilized USA they let you die of treatable diseases if you don’t have any health insurance. And in Michael Moore’s documentary “Sicko” episodes very similar to the object of this post are documented.
Michael Moore admitted he "dramatized" his movie.But if he is your only source for U.S. health care info,i must tell you,you are uninformed.
Uninsured/welfare recipients costs U.S. tax payers 8 trillion last year .The system is drowning because we pay for medical care for illegal immigrants,welfare families that haven't worked for generations and support themselves by having children to receive larger welfare checks.
6 hospitals have gone bankrupt and closed due to immigrants who swarm into our country and use hospitals for "free" medical care,even our prisoners in jails get good care-from basics to liver transplants.
He is not my only source. For example, I read an interview with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignazio_Marino , who was a celebrated surgeon in the US, and said that the situation in the US under certain aspects was even worse than that depicted in the film. He told about the case of a nurse who was ill with cancer and left to die, because she didn’t have any insurance.
I don't question what you say, and the film might have been dramatized, but I am afraid that the following picture of the US health care, as it emerges from the film, is basically true: in many cases people, even those who have insurance (but this shouldn't make any difference in my opinion), are denied treatment, even for life-threatening conditions: because they don't have insurance but don't qualify for welfare assistance, or because their insurance company maintains that their condition isn't covered.
Besides, I think that one should distinguish between welfare checks and medical care. In my opinion, the desirability of the former is debatable, while the latter should always be guaranteed to all, without any requirements.
Thank you Lena for setting amphicoelias straight…seriously, I lived in the Netherlands for several years in the 90s and, like all societies with finite resources, the Dutch system rations care and medical services…you can either let the the state decide what procedures are right for you or you can pay for them but you can’t have your cake and eat it too…peace… :~)
Health care is a subject for debate, but the first mistake in any discussion of the issue at all is even considering any material provided by Michael Moore as a springboard for discussion.
Rather than being lazy and consuming the popular media that is readily available, be a responsibly informed citizen and study proper resources.
John K, I already wrote that Michael Moore is not my only source
(" I read an interview with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignazio_Marino , who was a celebrated surgeon in the US, and said that the situation in the US under certain aspects was even worse than that depicted in the film. He told about the case of a nurse who was ill with cancer and left to die, because she didn’t have any insurance." Besides, I read some articles in reliable newspapers),
but in any case I don't think that the cases documented in the film, mentioning insurance companies' and hospitals' names can be made up.
One of those cases was very similar to the one described in this thread: a homeless woman was dumped in the street after it was ascertained that she couldn't pay the bill. Of course, such a case is much more egregious in a country such as the US than in Iran. However, the burden of proof for saying that Michael Moore cannot be a springboard for discussion is onto you.
Can you point me to sources in contrast with the following statement? :
"[...] the film might have been dramatized, but I am afraid that the following picture of the US health care, as it emerges from the film, is basically true: in many cases people, even those who have insurance (but this shouldn’t make any difference in my opinion), are denied treatment, even for life-threatening conditions: because they don’t have insurance but don’t qualify for welfare assistance, or because their insurance company maintains that their condition isn’t covered."
That is sufficient for me to say that the health care system (or lack thereof) in the US is inhumane, and I think that my sources make that belief plausible enough to discuss it in an internet forum. One can be lazy even in concluding that others are lazy.
KingJefferson, in Italy the national health system is far from perfect, especially for the delays for non-serious conditions (but this is a distortion, not a part of the system), but if you have a serious illness you don't have to worry about bills (and delays), regardless of your income, and I think that this is much preferable to health insurance.
Islam says killing an innocent man is similar to killing the whole of man kind. Leaving people to die in the streets is no way Islamic, it is nothing close to what Muhammad the prophet preached. This sort of barbaric acts should be condoned . This is NOT Islam. A muslim who follows the Quran and the teachings of the prophet Muhammad would never let this happen. Sadly there are black sheeps in the religion who call themselves muslims without following even the fundamentals of the religion. Don't judge Islam based on these fools who are in no way a muslim beyond their name.