There is minimum age for marriage. Hence, Muhammad is not a Pedophile
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From: Jilan Sami Uddin
I read what you had to write and I am not surprised to see that you have the same view just like any other illiterate about Islam.
Anyway, coming to your challenge.
In case you do not know, in Texas it is allowed to get married at the age of 14 and in majority of the other states it is 16. Now would you call a guy pedophile if he is 40 and he gets married to a 14 year old girl in Texas? Even if you do, it does not matter to the Texan people! It is in their culture for hundreds of years now and a norm in their society. If it was something harmful and something pedophilia, I am pretty sure no one could stop the government intervention with so many human right activists buzzing on our heads all the time like a swarm of bees.
Sir, an age of 14 or 16 or 18 is only an acceptable minimum in our age for a legal form of marriage. This is not a guide for most people to marry. Almost all people marry much later, reason being their physical development and their intellectual development comes much later. In fact, research shows that most stable marriages occur after the age of 25.
Plus, an age of 14 is not the age of 6 or the age of 9. This is what Muhammad did. He married Ayesha when she was still a child of 6 years old. Only on the insistence of Abu Bakr that he delayed his sleeping with her till she was 8 years and nine months old (back then they used lunar years).
Muhammad was in his fifties when he married 6 years old Ayesha. He is supposed to be a perfect example for humans to follow. Is such a marriage behavior like his a good example for us to follow? For a normal person, Muhammad is a sick man and a pedophile. But you Muslims are amazing. Muhammad’s ill behavior is right under your nose, and you still want to defend his evil behavior.
Now, if a married couple from USA (who got married at the age of 16) visits India, they will be considered as criminals because in India, the minimum age of getting married is 18. Now, would you call it justice or injustice if that couple is arrested or sent back based solely on this reason?
Accordingly, during the period of Prophet Mohammed (SW), it was not an unusual matter getting married to a girl who reached her puberty, regardless of what age she is! Islam does not lack enemies like you in the present time, but you are not even close in showing enmity to Islam and Prophet Mohammed (SW) like Abu Jahl, Abu Lahab and many others who were present during Prophet Mohammed (SW)’s lifetime and they eye witnessed most of his life. If Prophet Mohammed (SW) was a pedophile according to the society of that time, don’t you think the archenemies of the Prophet (SW) would talk about it and raise voice against it? But history doesn’t have any proof of these enemies of Islam talking against Prophet Mohammed (SW)’s marriage with Ayesha (RA).
Sir, “it was not unusual” is a lie. Yes, there were people who did that, but saying it was not unusual is an exaggeration. When you read the story of Muhammad’s talk with Abu Bakr , you can see that Abu Bakr did not really want such a marriage for his daughter. But Muhammad insisted and Abu Bakr gave in, but made sure that Ayesha was a bit older before that prophet of your slept with her.
Muslims make an enemy of anyone who did not agree with Muhammad. Abu Jahl (meaning “Father of Ignorance” in Arabic) was called Abul- Hakam (meaning “Father of Wisdom” in Arabic). He was a learned man, and a man of foresight to help make others make good decisions. But you Muslims make an enemy and belittle good people just because they did not agree with Muhammad.
As for Abu Lahab (father of Fire Flame), Muslims called him only by that name because he did not accept Muhammad as a prophet. He had a reddish face, thus the created name. But his actual name is Abdul-Uzza (Slave of High Rank). He was an uncle of Muhammad and a highly ranked and well-respected elder of Quraysh. But, as usual, you Muslims try to belittle good people in early Islam history because they new what Muhammad was all about.
I have not touched any religious aspect here to prove you wrong calling Prophet Mohammed (SW) pedophile but went through some common sense facts we all should be aware of. Let me know your thoughts. I would love to discuss it with you further. But before I end, I want to present a quote from George Bernard Shaw about Prophet Mohammed (SW).
““The world is in dire need of a man with the mind of Muhammad; religious people in the Middle Ages, due to their ignorance and prejudice, had pictured him in a very dark way as they used to consider him the enemy of Christianity. But after looking into the story of this man I found it to be an amazing and a miraculous one, and I came to the conclusion that he was never an enemy of Christianity, and must be called instead the savior of humanity. In my opinion, if he was to be given control over the world today, he would solve our problems and secure the peace and happiness which the world is longing for.”
Sir, What you are presenting here is a logical fallacy called “appeal to authority”. You see this fallacy put to good use in commercials on TV all the time. For instance, you may see Tiger Wood or Michael Jordan, in a commercial, promoting a specific kind of car or a specific kind of shoe. Those people are athletes. They know very little, if any, about what makes a car a good car, or what makes a shoe a good shoe. Those people are known for their athletic ability and millions of people like them. So, certain companies capitalize on that to sell more of the company’s products. In return to appearing in a commercial, such athletes are paid a huge sum of money. But it is still the case that those people know very little about the products they are promoting.
By the same token, George Bernard Shaw was no expert on Muhammad. Such people are in fact dangerous as they may promote bad things to the masses. Muhammad is but one example here.
Thanks for your time!
You are most welcome Sir.
P.S. I am not here to give a shot at your money, but clear misconceptions you have about Islam. Pedophilia is just one topic I chose to start with.
Comment addition from our reader Silviateona:
First of all, I don’t know where this “scholar” has gotten his information from.
On Wikipedia, the minimum age for marriage in Texas is listed as 18, or 17 with parental consent.
On the website usmarriagelaws.com, if you are 16 or 17, you may apply for a marriage license in Texas, if you have written parental consent, as verified by a legal clerk, or a court order.
Under 16 is not even brought into question, except in the state of Utah (the fundamentalist Christian state, where religiously-approved mischief has almost reached Islamic proportions). Even there, if you are 15, you need to go to juvenile court to have your case reviewed.
No one, in any state, will let you marry at 14.
That being said, it is only common sense to conclude that these early marriage laws are meant for teens who fall in love, may or may not have gotten pregnant, and wish to get married. If you’re a 50 year-old who wants to marry a 16 year-old, good luck! You’d make the news for even trying.
Even so, a girl of 16 is almost fully grown physically, so arguably, she could have a baby with little damage and stress. Though, and this also depends on her personality, she may have some 10 years left to go before being MENTALLY ready for marriage and child-rearing.
A girl of 6 or 9 is just a baby. If you take the time and explain to her, she will still have trouble even GRASPING where babies come from. This is valid for all human societies, at all times, since we are all homo sapiens sapiens, and thus share the same physiology.
There is no doubt that, throughout history, middle-aged scumbags like Mo have raped babies and tried to justify it. They also burned villages and built towers of human skulls. Human civilization is an ongoing process of enlightenment. Islam has made sure to petrify this process into the Dark Ages for all of the Muslim world.
Use some common sense.
When she’s crying, you’ve got to be doing SOMETHING wrong.
That being said,
Forget about making the news if you’re 50 and “nikah” a 14 year-old in Texas.
You’d GO TO JAIL.
It is called “statutory rape.”
Under age 17, your partner can be no more than 3 years older, and it must be proven that there was no duress, i.e. there was understood consent.
So, yes, a 14 year old can have sex with a 17 year-old (with consent!), but not with an 18 year-old. The 18 year-old would become a registered sex offender.
And this is just sex.
No, you cannot get married at 14, period.
Another important point that must be raised here, is that these laws were put in place by people who thought the matter through, rationally. If the rationale is ever found lacking, the laws WILL be ratified.
The 9 year-old Islamic marriage age is just the justification of some perv who had a wet dream about a baby and woke up with an erection.
It is pathetic that, 1400 years later, a billion people still condone pedophilia and denounce adoption to justify the actions of a dead barbarian.
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