Your Final Challenge Ever - Part 2
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Date: May 15, 2006 11:52 PMHmmm. Sounds like you have been brutely mistreated. And I'm not surprised if those who abused you were Arab Muslims. Unfortunately there are many who still represent Arabia's barbarism.
But I'm very touched, I left my family because I was abused at home. They used to say "you're not Muslim!" and they used to think I was crazy. But now that I look back, I see that they were the ones who weren't following the religion correctly.
When I read your messages, I read it as if the words are shouting at me. And clearly, you express deep hatred towards Islam.
But just take a moment now and realize that everything you say about me is hurting you. If not, you wouldnt be replying to my messages. Because every sentence you write is hurtful, and even now I'm holding back tears.
What I really wish for you to know are the many secrets Islam, and even the Quran reveals. The religion is so incredibly simple to follow because it specifically states the guidelines, just like a table of contents. The only thing that makes it so difficult is that people fail to see how Islam adjusts with each generation. It's the miracle that is supposed to happen naturally, but people these days tend to force bend iron in the most unusual ways with their bare fists. Sure the Quran has stories about the ancients, and so does the Gospel....but people just read it like they read stories. No one knows patience anymore! Or at least most of the population..
True or not?
And these days people are not dressing modestly anymore. The media is incredibly perverse, and not only has it encouraged women to become power icons, but also sex icons, &c.. And now people have become disillusioned, and thus they teach their children, and the next generation, and so forth. The same degrading concept can be found elsewhere, such as politics for example. If the US government hadnt strayed from George Washington's words, I swear it, there shouldnt be any international $hit and various other problems we're now facing today. I'm not saying Bush is stupid; he is, but it's the voters' fault, and they'd prefer to keep a power-pig in office.
And I could go on forever. But the focal point of this discussion includes Islam today:
People do not know how to control their f%%ing lusts!
And there is no way you cannot disagree that much blame is deserved by extremists, feminists, and dictators. EVERY city, tribe, nation, cult....whatever!....has a group of these kind of people, and BOTH OF US has experienced the worst of these groups. I have to admit there has been a time or 2 when I question Islam...and now that I look back, if I had deserted Islam, I would have missed out on a lot. I didnt need the careless people in my life who call themselves Muslim, because I finally learned that God decreed free will to us. And I have every right to abuse my religion, or to take advantage of every mercy that is granted to me.
Islam teaches the world was created for mankind. Why do we have a Sun? How can you say that Islam is evil...and we are taught that our Sun is here for us as a lamp and for warmth.
Why do we have plants and animals? How can you say that Islam is evil...and we are taught that our bodies need food for nourishment and strength. And through nature, we are given exotic beauties, and there are animals that are strong enough to till our lands, and we make medicines from herbs. Where is the evil in this? Do you not eat?
And what about math and science? Where's the evil in this? Check out this site,
http://www.quranm.multicom.ba/science/
Why is there so much hate in you? Do you think God hates you? Do you hate me? Whatever you want, it wont stop me from loving you. If you want to choose to hate a religion, does that make you hate a person who follows that religion...a person who is respected by Muslims and non-Muslims? Do you think you have the right to say that I'm going to Hell, even though I sacrifice everything I have so I can help those in poverty?
Am I the evil one? What gives you the right to judge me? You can say $hit about Islam, but what about me?
If you hated Islam so much, then why dont you just kill its followers? You obviously hate us as much as there are Muslims who hate non-Muslims, so why dont you do the same act of hatred just like them. Do something to relieve your anger, just like them. Only hate can trigger those who hurt you to do the things they did to you. Why not take some sweet revenge? Just kill them all. It doesnt matter they're just trash anyways, just do as you love to do, just hate people.
If you truly believe that hate is the only way to achieve success in the afterlife, then maybe you are truly hurt. Because we are taught that Satan only makes us do horrible things because he hates us, so he deceives us. And he makes us hate and envy each other. I never knew an angel or a God, or even a man who nourished himself sweetly upon hate. Haters are always depressed they dont want to interact with lovers. And thus, they are isolated. Just as the devil will isolate them when they finally come to their senses.
I only knew angels to be guardians, and a God who is merciful enough to let us decide if we want to live a hateful or lovingly life. And I've only known people, so far, who may be either hateful or loving...but they all understand that in this life they try to make peace with themselves and their ambitions. I have witnessed those hateful ones, to live a miserable life because they hate so much, and they dont even trust their own friends. And when I'm with the lovers, I admire how they tolerate misfortunes, and even how they tolerate their emotions when something good happens to them; they accept everything that crosses their paths and use it with every good intention they can possibly squeeze out of it. Truly, survival is for the fittest.
Regardless of religion, which one of these groups do you belong to? Are you a hater or a lover? And which one do I belong to? Erase Islam from your mind right now, and ease your troubles. I'm asking you as if my soul was asking yours. Honestly, how can you ever believe that I am your enemy, when you know deep inside that you dont want me to be the enemy? I've told you only a little about my life. I still have room to talk about how I *love* horses, racquetball, cross-country, soccer, swimming, I was even offered a modelling position to run for Miss Virginia. I've been asked out for dating millions of times in my life, even when I'm with my guy-friends or colleagues. I dont have many girlfriends because they prefer to be jealous of my looks...and even though it's clearly forbidden in Islam for a women to prefer men as friends and not women, I understand it first-handed because I am also a victim of rape. This man wasnt Muslim, but he was one of my employers last summer. I only stay with the men I know because they respect me incredibly, for my pursuits and knowledge, and because I endeavour to marry one of their best friends....and this friend of there's is the most povershed in their friendly circle. I sacrificed attending my 3rd year in college last year; instead I worked 2 jobs to feed his family. He grew up in a very bad environment, and yet he has the brains. In another 2 or 3 semesters from now, he'll be graduating from Embrey Riddle University, with an aerospace engineering degree. I love him because he continues to put up a fight with poverty, and use his intellect to get a degree. Perhaps one day, he can support me so I can get a degree too!
And we are lovers; lovers are great achievers, and achievers of rebellion and isolation. We believe in a common God, and it is a miracle that he finally has a woman who will ease his troubles for both of their sakes; and she has a man who will support her with his love.
I love him soooo soooo much because money never stopped him from achieving his dreams, and I see his family in much healthier conditions now. His parents even quit smoking a while ago. I help as much as I can, believe me, and it's a blessing from God that I can keep up with work because I enjoy it, and I enjoy giving everything I have to help others. And this is one of the beauties of Islam, mercy.
My real name, Hanaan, is Arabic for mercy. And love, and it also describes the warm feeling a mother has for a child. It's a Muslim name, too.
Do you still think I'm evil?
If I had accepted to live a life as a model, then maybe I would've become evil. Because I'd have everything others dream to have, and I could reach a landmark in my career, where I would be the center of fame and envy, and I wouldnt be able to enjoy every corner of life; only the wealthiest corner. And it's an arrogant corner. And I know the devil is arrogant too. But I'm appreciative, and I'm a lover, or else I would be back-biting your comments just as you were doing to mine.
But what if you could meet me in person? What if we met, and we became friends, and you began to nurture caring thoughts about me...and then one day I say "did you know I'm Muslim?"
Maybe I dont choose to dress like a traditional Muslim, but if you could see me in real life, you would probably regret forming those ugly pictures of me in your mind.
The beauty within is reflected to the skin and is then reflected to the eyes of others. And when I read your words, I see a soul in rage.
I admit, I used to want to commit suicide. My parents were not the most loving, and I would think "Islam is incredibly hideous!"
And now here I am, a descendant of Queen Nefertari, I really feel like a princess. It's come to a point in my life that I dont even care to afford the nicest clothes I used to wear; now I only feel naked unless someone can dress me with their appreciation for my help for them. And sometimes I work so hard during the week, and when I look back at a project, I am amazed with the amount of energy, money, and time I gave to so many people, even people that I dont see in person, and people I may never have the chance to help again.
It's a sad world, and it hurts me that you believe that evil inspired me to sacrifice even the time to spend with family so that I can help the needy. When I was a young girl, I was very shy of everyone around me, and very sensitive to pain. When abuse hit me in the face for the first time, I remember vividly, for some reason or another, that I felt that the entire world is abused. I grew up with a wealthy family, and I would see them happier spending their money, instead of being happy with a girl who needed love in her life. To me, they only called themselves "Muslims"
And now I call myself "Muslim," but I am nothing like them. And I am nothing like "them" who hurt you before.
I hope we might have something in common, and I also appreciate that you made a conscious effort to ease your aggression in your last message :D Somehow, you'll learn a bit about psychology. (One of my other pursuits, lol) And what you dont realize about Islam is that it's similar to Christianity. There came a time when Christians nearly ruled the world! Such greed! It was as if *power* of their lusts was the mission. The same goes for Hitler. He was driven with his lusts...but he claimed to be a devout Christian.
Hmmm....he says one thing...but acts differently. He obviously practiced what he preached...but how can his actions resemble anything Christian?
It's only an analogy...and unfortunately, it can be used towards certain Muslims, as well as anyone else in this world. There IS an evil trying to influence everything, have no doubt of this! I dont have any doubts!
But have you realised that people are more passionate about themselves and their egos...and they become insertive enough to blame their personalities from religion. Muslim terrorists say Islam is such and such, but their common motive is merely political and irrational. They were hurt in some way, and then they retaliate relentlessly. They understand no tolerance for anyone. There is no just in what they believe...and because they are so agitated, they can never admit that it is THEIR OWN PERSON wants such and such, instead blaming that Islam declares such and such.
They abuse themselves...and they pass on that abuse to others. And now you say that you were abused.
Where can you now find the logic to assume that I will one day admit that Islam made me an evil-doer? Did Islam hurt you, or did the people hurt you? ...the people who only utilise Islam for selfish reasons.
A religion is for someone who wants a guideline, or table of contents, to help straighten and prioritize their potential issues in life. One may choose to use religion as a sword, it can be used to hurt others, to hurt oneself; or to defend others, to defend oneself.
And you have met those who choose to take the offensive. Agree or not?
Who am I now? Am I still evil? My laundry finished almost an hour ago, but I chose to stay up so I can finish writing this. Please tell me, if it's Islam you hate so much, then who do you love?
And if you hate how Islam influenced me to become charitable, then admit that you also hate to give charity. And that you hate to be kind others who cannot afford medicine and food. And admit that you hate people who are charitable. And you hate people who see truth in kindness and mercy. And admit that you hate how I commute 120 miles one-way just to contribute a day working at a non-profit, charitable organization. And tell me that you hate that I trade sleep for restless nights so that I can organize my life and projects to help better my community. And hate me for working 3 jobs, and I keep myself poor, because I hardly keep any money for myself. And hate my Muslim family and community for admiring my sacrifices for the poor. And hate all the people I've contributed, and all the lives I've helped. And hate all the rest of mankind that suffers. Everyone else I may never have the chance to help. Hate those people, too, who may never get help for anything. Just hate everything I touch and everyone I talk to, just because I'm Muslim.
If you really think I'm so evil, or even a devil, then why would you agree to accept a challenge from me? Is it because you know he's weak, and easily defeated? And do you think that I only challenged you because I might think you're a devil and easily defeated? Really, I wish to learn more about you.
Haters hate to hate, because they hate themselves
Haters love to hate, because they hate others
Lovers hate to love, because they cant control their love
Lovers love to love, because they have tolerance
HSA
On 5/15/06, Hanaan A. wrote:
Hmmm. Sounds like you have been brutely mistreated. And I'm not surprised if those who abused you were Arab Muslims. Unfortunately there are many who still represent Arabia's barbarism.
So you are a psychiatrist at 20 as well! Wonders never cease. No, I have not been brutalized but muslims have acted like brutes in my life.
But I'm very touched, I left my family because I was abused at home. They used to say "you're not Muslim!" and they used to think I was crazy. But now that I look back, I see that they were the ones who weren't following the religion correctly.
When I read your messages, I read it as if the words are shouting at me. And clearly, you express deep hatred towards Islam.
Women in general have little place in Islam. After all muhammed held extremely low opinion of women. Women were like ten "awarahs" he said and that is why they should be covered up. Women were not very reliable and intelligent either, and that is one of the reasons why two women witnessess are needed to replace one male witness under Islamic sharia. I am not shouting at you. I am telling you the truth. Yes I do hate Islam for what it does to the muslims and to the kaffirs.
But just take a moment now and realize that everything you say about me is hurting you. If not, you wouldnt be replying to my messages. Because every sentence you write is hurtful, and even now I'm holding back tears.
I have not said anything against you as a person. I do not even know you. You are the one who wrote to me. I will not lie to you because I respect you as a human. I am telling you the truth about Islam.
What I really wish for you to know are the many secrets Islam, and even the Quran reveals. The religion is so incredibly simple to follow because it specifically states the guidelines, just like a table of contents. The only thing that makes it so difficult is that people fail to see how Islam adjusts with each generation. It's the miracle that is supposed to happen naturally, but people these days tend to force bend iron in the most unusual ways with their bare fists. Sure the Quran has stories about the ancients, and so does the Gospel....but people just read it like they read stories. No one knows patience anymore! Or at least most of the population..
True or not?
If it is very simple to follow then why are there so many "bad " muslims according to you. Why do those who behead people and shout Allah hu akbar in the background and broadcast the torture on video, in your mind, are unable to understand your Islam? It is simple rules because it is a cult. Cults that aim to control the human mind are simple because they do not want humans to think.
And these days people are not dressing modestly anymore. The media is incredibly perverse, and not only has it encouraged women to become power icons, but also sex icons, &c.. And now people have become disillusioned, and thus they teach their children, and the next generation, and so forth. The same degrading concept can be found elsewhere, such as politics for example. If the US government hadnt strayed from George Washington's words, I swear it, there shouldnt be any international $hit and various other problems we're now facing today. I'm not saying Bush is stupid; he is, but it's the voters' fault, and they'd prefer to keep a power-pig in office.
That is democracy. People eventually self-correct themselves. Islam has never known any democracy. Do you know any period in Islamic history where Islamic governement has been at peace ? Islam from the time of muhammed has been ruled by dictators. Muhammed set the precedent himself. Read Islamic history.
And I could go on forever. But the focal point of this discussion includes Islam today:
People do not know how to control their f%%ing lusts!
And there is no way you cannot disagree that much blame is deserved by extremists, feminists, and dictators. EVERY city, tribe, nation, cult....whatever!....has a group of these kind of people, and BOTH OF US has experienced the worst of these groups. I have to admit there has been a time or 2 when I question Islam...and now that I look back, if I had deserted Islam, I would have missed out on a lot. I didnt need the careless people in my life who call themselves Muslim, because I finally learned that God decreed free will to us. And I have every right to abuse my religion, or to take advantage of every mercy that is granted to me.
But you said Islam is easy and so simple. Why does it get misinterpreted so easily? Does not Osama Bin Laden who loves to quote the quran and islamic history not understand islam? Did Imam khomenii not understand islam? Does Ahmedinijad not understand the simple Islam?
Islam teaches the world was created for mankind. Why do we have a Sun? How can you say that Islam is evil...and we are taught that our Sun is here for us as a lamp and for warmth.
Why do we have plants and animals? How can you say that Islam is evil...and we are taught that our bodies need food for nourishment and strength. And through nature, we are given exotic beauties, and there are animals that are strong enough to till our lands, and we make medicines from herbs. Where is the evil in this? Do you not eat?
Think! The natural world is there not because Islam says it is there. The sun and all that is there and has been there long before the butcher muhammed was ever born. We are part of this natural world and not separate from it. Do you hear yourself? You are taught this and taught that? Are you taught to think independently? Are you taught to question at all? Do you understand that the biggest acheivement man has ever made has been by struggling to ask the right questions? All of science comes from doubting and asking questions. Allah did not make all of this just for humans. We humans are another species who have evolved on this natural planet, and as we learn we better take care of this world because we have learnt enough that our activities are starting to affect the whole world. Everything was not just created for us. The universe is far too large a place. Our planet is a speck of dust in the backwaters of the universe in a small galaxy.
And what about math and science? Where's the evil in this? Check out this site,
http://www.quranm.multicom.ba/science/
Please look at the actual facts and not the lies that muslims spread about how they have invented or discovered everything. Muslims always boast about Algebra being invented by a muslim. Well learn the facts. Khawarzzim was essentially a translator books that had been looted from the libraries of non-muslim scientists of that time. Byztanium and Hindu libraries specifically. Muslims did not give any credit to the kaffir mathematicians before them and merely translated and stole their work as their own. Now we know better, and history is being put together properly.
Why is there so much hate in you? Do you think God hates you? Do you hate me? Whatever you want, it wont stop me from loving you. If you want to choose to hate a religion, does that make you hate a person who follows that religion...a person who is respected by Muslims and non-Muslims? Do you think you have the right to say that I'm going to Hell, even though I sacrifice everything I have so I can help those in poverty?
Am I the evil one? What gives you the right to judge me? You can say $hit about Islam, but what about me?
There is no hate in me for you. When have I said anything against you? I am telling you facts about Islam. When have I said you will go to hell? I do not even believe in a burning hell. It is Islam that tells me that as a kaffir I will go to hell. If you love a kaffir then you are not following Islam. Go ahead show me one ayeh from the Quran or one hadiath that says you should love a kaffir like myself. Go ahead I challenge you. You see you are confused. You do not know your islam. When you say you love a kaffir like myself, you are not being a muslim. Ofcourse you are not evil. Who is judging you? I am saying about Islam as I see it. If I thought you were evil, I would not even bother replying to you.
If you hated Islam so much, then why dont you just kill its followers? You obviously hate us as much as there are Muslims who hate non-Muslims, so why dont you do the same act of hatred just like them. Do something to relieve your anger, just like them. Only hate can trigger those who hurt you to do the things they did to you. Why not take some sweet revenge? Just kill them all. It doesnt matter they're just trash anyways, just do as you love to do, just hate people.
Because I do not hate muslims. I told you that they are my people. Do you understand that? I am trying to help them escape the cult they are trapped in. When someone is sick, do you hate the patient or try to get rid of the disease? Muslims are sick with Islam, and I am trying to get rid of Islam. Why should I try to get rid of the patient? Now the question to you is if Islam is so simple to understand, why are there so many muslims who hate the non-muslims so much? Do not run away from that question. Think!
If you truly believe that hate is the only way to achieve success in the afterlife, then maybe you are truly hurt. Because we are taught that Satan only makes us do horrible things because he hates us, so he deceives us. And he makes us hate and envy each other. I never knew an angel or a God, or even a man who nourished himself sweetly upon hate. Haters are always depressed they dont want to interact with lovers. And thus, they are isolated. Just as the devil will isolate them when they finally come to their senses.
Can you not see, that I do not hate people? Who or what gives you the idea that I hate people? Yes I do hate Islam because it make people do evil things. It teaches the muslims to hate kaffirs. It teaches muslims to kill kaffirs. Now that is hate. I am trying to get rid of an ideology that teaches hate. That is why I say Islam's allah is really satan.
I only knew angels to be guardians, and a God is merciful enough to let us decide if we want to live a hateful or lovingly life. And I've only known people, so far, who may be either hateful or loving...but they all understand that in this life they try to make peace with themselves and their ambitions. I have witnessed those hateful ones, to live a miserable life because they hate so much, and they dont even trust their own friends. And when I'm with the lovers, I admire how they tolerate misfortunes, and even how they tolerate their emotions when something good happens to them; they accept everything that crosses their paths and use it with every good intention they can possibly squeeze out of it. Truly, survival is for the fittest.
I think your observations are valid and correct.
Regardless of religion, which one of these groups do you belong to? Are you a hater or a lover? And which one do I belong to? Erase Islam from your mind right now, and ease your troubles. I'm asking you as if my soul was asking yours. Honestly, how can you ever believe that I am your enemy, when you know deep inside that you dont want me to be the enemy? I've told you only a little about my life. I still have room to talk about how I *love* horses, racquetball, cross-country, soccer, swimming, I was even offered a modelling position to run for Miss Virginia. I've been asked out for dating millions of times in my life, even when I'm with my guy-friends or colleagues. I dont have many girlfriends because they prefer to be jealous of my looks...and even though it's clearly forbidden in Islam for a women to prefer men as friends and not women,
Who said you hated me? Who said that I hate you? I work so hard to save muslims, why? Does it make sense to you that I would spend so much time because I hate them? I do not know you. Why would I hate you? I am simply telling what I really think and know about Islam. Why is it that my telling the truth about Islam means that I have to be hating you?
I understand it first-handed because I am also a victim of rape. This man wasnt Muslim, but he was one of my employers last summer. I only stay with the men I know because they respect me incredibly, for my pursuits and knowledge, and because I endeavour to marry one of their best friends....and this friend of there's is the most povershed in their friendly circle. I sacrificed attending my 3rd year in college last year; instead I worked 2 jobs to feed his family. He grew up in a very bad environment, and yet he has the brains. In another 2 or 3 semesters from now, he'll be graduating from Embrey Riddle University, with an aerospace engineering degree. I love him because he continues to put up a fight with poverty, and use his intellect to get a degree. Perhaps one day, he can support me so I can get a degree too!
I am sorry to hear about your rape. That must have been awful. I hope all your plans work out. I wish you nothing but the best.
And we are lovers; lovers are great achievers, and achievers of rebellion and isolation. We believe in a common God, and it is a miracle that he finally has a woman who will ease his troubles for both of their sakes; and she has a man who will support her with his love.
I love him soooo soooo much because money never stopped him from achieving his dreams, and I see his family in much healthier conditions now. His parents even quit smoking a while ago. I help as much as I can, believe me, and it's a blessing from God that I can keep up with work because I enjoy it, and I enjoy giving everything I have to help others. And this is one of the beauties of Islam, mercy.
My real name, Hanaan, is Arabic for mercy. And love, and it also describes the warm feeling a mother has for a child. It's a Muslim name, too.
Names do not belong to any religion, do they? Is muhammed a muslim name? Is abdullah a muslim name? These names existed in arabia before islam, did they not? So they are really good pagan names. Similarly, your name is arabic and is a good pagan name. Find out its etymology and you will be surprised. Arabic is not islamic, is it?
Do you still think I'm evil?
Sheesh, when have I said you are evil? Why do you keep getting confused about what I think of Islam and what I think of you?
If I had accepted to live a life as a model, then maybe I would've become evil. Because I'd have everything others dream to have, and I could reach a landmark in my career, where I would be the center of fame and envy, and I wouldnt be able to enjoy every corner of life; only the wealthiest corner. And it's an arrogant corner. And I know the devil is arrogant too. But I'm appreciative, and I'm a lover, or else I would be back-biting your comments just as you were doing to mine.
I know many very good and kind rich people . I also know quite a few not so good and kind rich people. I know many very good and kind poor people, just as I know many very troubled and awful poor people. Wealth by itself does not make a person either good or bad. Some good people do a lot of good with their wealth.
But what if you could meet me in person? What if we met, and we became friends, and you began to nurture caring thoughts about me...and then one day I say "did you know I'm Muslim?"
I have many many very good muslim friends already. I have a muslim family. I have told you that before.
Maybe I dont choose to dress like a traditional Muslim, but if you could see me in real life, you would probably regret forming those ugly pictures of me in your mind.
The beauty within is reflected to the skin and is then reflected to the eyes of others. And when I read your words, I see a soul in rage.
I admit, I used to want to commit suicide. My parents were not the most loving, and I would think "Islam is incredibly hideous!"
Islam is incredibily hideous. I am sorry that you wanted to commit suicide. Suicide is never the answer to anything. There is no rage in my soul.
And now here I am, a descendant of Queen Nefertari, I really feel like a princess. It's come to a point in my life that I dont even care to afford the nicest clothes I used to wear; now I only feel naked unless someone can dress me with their appreciation for my help for them. And sometimes I work so hard during the week, and when I look back at a project, I am amazed with the amount of energy, money, and time I gave to so many people, even people that I dont see in person, and people I may never have the chance to help again.
Good for you.
It's a sad world, and it hurts me that you believe that evil inspired me to sacrifice even the time to spend with family so that I can help the needy. When I was a young girl, I was very shy of everyone around me, and very sensitive to pain. When abuse hit me in the face for the first time, I remember vividly, for some reason or another, that I felt that the entire world is abused. I grew up with a wealthy family, and I would see them happier spending their money, instead of being happy with a girl who needed love in her life. To me, they only called themselves "Muslims"
And now I call myself "Muslim," but I am nothing like them. And I am nothing like "them" who hurt you before.
One more time, if Islam is so easy, and if islam is such a sure guide why do so many muslims who call themselves muslims are unable to understand the "true" islam? Have you ever thought about it? Does it not appear strange to you that you call yourself "muslim" but you are nothing like all the other 'muslims"? Hanaan, you do not know Islam. Read Ali Sina's work on his website and tell me exactly where he is lying about islam. You are lost in fairy tales. You know very little about islam.
I hope we might have something in common, and I also appreciate that you made a conscious effort to ease your aggression in your last message :D Somehow, you'll learn a bit about psychology. (One of my other pursuits, lol) And what you dont realize about Islam is that it's similar to Christianity. There came a time when Christians nearly ruled the world! Such greed! It was as if *power* of their lusts was the mission. The same goes for Hitler. He was driven with his lusts...but he claimed to be a devout Christian.
Hmmm....he says one thing...but acts differently. He obviously practiced what he preached...but how can his actions resemble anything Christian?
It's only an analogy...and unfortunately, it can be used towards certain Muslims, as well as anyone else in this world. There IS an evil trying to influence everything, have no doubt of this! I dont have any doubts!
But have you realised that people are more passionate about themselves and their egos...and they become insertive enough to blame their personalities from religion. Muslim terrorists say Islam is such and such, but their common motive is merely political and irrational. They were hurt in some way, and then they retaliate relentlessly. They understand no tolerance for anyone. There is no just in what they believe...and because they are so agitated, they can never admit that it is THEIR OWN PERSON wants such and such, instead blaming that Islam declares such and such.
They abuse themselves...and they pass on that abuse to others. And now you say that you were abused.
Where can you now find the logic to assume that I will one day admit that Islam made me an evil-doer? Did Islam hurt you, or did the people hurt you? ...the people who only utilise Islam for selfish reasons.
You entirely misunderstand. Islam has hurt the muslims far more than it ever hurt me.
Christians fought each other as protestants and catholics for 800 years. Nearly one third of europeans died in that killing spate. Muslims are still killing each oher. Look at how many muslims are being killed around the world by other muslims because they do not consider the other as true muslims but kaffirs. About 50,000 muslims have been killed by other muslims in iraq in the last year!! In pakistan, the shia sunni fight has been killing muslims in the hundreds. Only last month a suicide bomber blew himself up on a stage to celebrate muhammeds birthday (milad-ul-nabi) and killed about 60 muslims. They all do it because they keep telling the world that they know islam and they are going to be shaheed and go to heaven. But you tell me that all of them do not know Islam but you do. Think Hanaan think!
A religion is for someone who wants a guideline, or table of contents, to help straighten and prioritize their potential issues in life. One may choose to use religion as a sword, it can be used to hurt others, to hurt oneself; or to defend others, to defend oneself.
And you have met those who choose to take the offensive. Agree or not?
Who am I now? Am I still evil? My laundry finished almost an hour ago, but I chose to stay up so I can finish writing this. Please tell me, if it's Islam you hate so much, then who do you love?
Different religions have different strenghts and different weaknesses. Islam is not a religion. I have never said you were evil.
And if you hate how Islam influenced me to become charitable, then admit that you also hate to give charity. And that you hate to be kind others who cannot afford medicine and food. And admit that you hate people who are charitable. And you hate people who see truth in kindness and mercy. And admit that you hate how I commute 120 miles one-way just to contribute a day working at a non-profit, charitable organization. And tell me that you hate that I trade sleep for restless nights so that I can organize my life and projects to help better my community. And hate me for working 3 jobs, and I keep myself poor, because I hardly keep any money for myself. And hate my Muslim family and community for admiring my sacrifices for the poor. And hate all the people I've contributed, and all the lives I've helped. And hate all the rest of mankind that suffers. Everyone else I may never have the chance to help. Hate those people, too, who may never get help for anything. Just hate everything I touch and everyone I talk to, just because I'm Muslim.
You are confused about cause and effect. You do all that good because you are a good person and not because of Islam. Steven Weinberg, a famous theoretical physicist, once said : "Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion." Do you understand that you are a good person and you will do good. That you are not doing evil while being a muslim merely means that you are not following Islam. You say you love me, a kaffir. That is against Islam. Show me where in the quran or in the sunnah there is an instruction that says a muslim can love a kaffir. Go ahead, show me.
If you really think I'm so evil, or even a devil, then why would you agree to accept a challenge from me? Is it because you know he's weak, and easily defeated? And do you think that I only challenged you because I might think you're a devil and easily defeated? Really, I wish to learn more about you.
Haters hate to hate, because they hate themselves
Haters love to hate, because they hate others
Lovers hate to love, because they cant control their love
Lovers love to love, because they have tolerance
HSA
I accepted your challange because I recognised that it was from a muslim ( accept Islam etc.) and I am here trying to help muslims. I know and I can show you that Islam is evil. I want to help you open your eyes and see Islam for what it truly is.
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