What's Good For the Goose Isn't Good For the Gander
Submitted by Herbert London on Tue, 04/07/2009 - 06:41
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One might assume that standards which prevail on one part of the globe might be applied equally to another part of the world. One might assume as well that what is good for the goose might be good for the gander. Well you might assume that, but in contemporary life you would be wrong. Some behavior tacitly and vehemently accepted by radicals within the Islamic community is rejected when applied by others.
According to erstwhile president Jimmy Carter, Israeli checkpoints on the Gaza border designed to forestall terrorism are an example of "apartheid." However, the former president has not said a word about Saudi Arabian policy that bars non- Muslims from Mecca and from holding Saudi citizenship.
Any criticism of the Koran such as the Geert Wilders' film Fitna is greeted with a fatwa and a variety of death threats. But Muslim claims that Christians are polytheists and infidels and Jews are the progeny of apes and pigs - comments routinely made in many mosques - are presumably protected by free speech provisions.
American universities (Georgetown, Columbia, Harvard) have been encouraged to promote programs that encourage toleration and understanding of Islam. Yet not one major university in Saudi Arabia or Pakistan has a Western studies program that engenders toleration and understanding of the Judeo-Christian tradition.
Geert Wilders was denied entry into England, after receiving an invitation to speak at the House of Commons for fear that his speech might incite a Muslim protest. Yet a grandson of the Muslim Brotherhood who routinely provides an apologia for terrorism has an appointment at Cambridge University.
When officials in the state of Florida asked a Muslim woman to remove her hijab for an ID photo, they were accused of Islamophobia. However, Muslim nations demand that even the Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi, and the First Lady cover their hair when visiting their countries.
After the revelations of Abu Ghraib - horrible as they were - the United States was excoriated in the Muslim world as "the vilest of nations." Yet when Muslim men hang and flog women for adultery, we are told - using a standard of cultural relativism - that we have no right to judge these actions.
It has been noted at Gitmo that a Koran in the toilet is a hate crime. However, burning the contents of the Library of Alexandria is legitimate because it is an expression of Muslim views of non-Muslim literature.
A Christian who becomes a Muslim is honored by the members of his adopted faith. A Muslim who wants to convert to Christianity is an apostate who faces the death penalty.
Prejudice against Muslims is deemed unacceptable in every major news outlet in the Western world. Yet Muslim prejudice against Jews, women, Christians, homosexuals, Buddhists, Hindus, and atheists elicits scarcely a word of condemnation.
Clearly hypocrisy reigns, but the real problem is that these illustrations - which only touch the tip of the proverbial iceberg - suggest that Muslims want a free pass to treat negative commentary as Islamophobia. On the other hand, these same people feel free to use the institutions in the West to express hatred of others and support for terrorism. Remarkably the avatars of political correctness often agree with them.
If a Danish cartoonist cannot draw pictures of Mohammed, then Muslim protestors should be restrained from calling for his murder. Tolerance cannot be a one-way street. If Arab protestors can stand in front of the Israeli Knesset carrying Hamas flags, then Israeli protestors should be free to carry banners in behalf of the IDF in Ramallah.
As I see it, Muslims have grown too comfortable in raising the specter of Islamophobia. Unless there is mutual respect - a claim President Obama is making - there cannot be any respect. Unless there is genuine reciprocity, tolerance is an empty word. It is time for the West to not only assert the foundational traditions of its history, it is also time to argue that our institutions cannot be employed to destroy our civilization.
FamilySecurityMatters.org Contributing Editor Herbert London is president of Hudson Institute and professor emeritus of New YorkUniversity. He is the author of Decade of Denial (Lanham, Maryland: Lexington Books, 2001) and America's Secular Challenge (Encounter Books).
Islam is best expressed in
Islam is best expressed in its religion and its conception of god. Historically, God has represented the highest ideal for peoples, so how people conceive of god reveals how they think and their spiritual nature. Allah, is a god of revenge, of cursing, of destruction, one who intimidates people in many ways. Allah is the grim Islamic god who is there only to give muslims lordship over host communities. There is nothing cruder than the Islamic religious book: the Koran, the manual of the desert thug Mohammad. The Koran is a collection of jinn hunting and bigotry, blind cursing and the crassest egotism, an unimaginable superiority complex, sick perversity, the overturning of all natural laws, lust for murder, terror, and horror.
This is the reason for muslim`s skewed behaviour.
Muslim has shown itself to be the thief of the material possessions of the host peoples, as a destroyer of culture and as a parasite everywhere and in every way from the distant past through the present day.
The things that are mentioned
The things that are mentioned here have long bothered me in their inequity. If I am to respect all things muslim all the time then I EXPECT them to respect all of my beliefs equally well. If they don't, am I allowed to kill them as they feel it is their right to kill me if I disrespect their beliefs? Why not!?! That's the question I want answered.
the pillars of Islam
the pillars of Islam are
1.Raping the right hand possessions.
2.Child molesting and raping
3.Wife/wives bashing
5.head banging and arse lifting.
6.Lying and cheating
7.Kafir killing.
8.Kidnapping
9.Kafir women and children raping.
10.Slave trading
11.Beheading
12.Hand chopping.
13.Women oppressing
14.Destroying any thing un islamic! as Islam has not built any thing, it means destroy every thing
15.remaining ignorant and illiterate ( oh allah mera low day loves them)
16.Being extremely stupid.
17.jew hating ( sorry first on the list)
18.Hating christians and hindus (only of late included in the list as humans worth hating)
19.Hating school going girls and women
20.hating working women
21.hating and raping un covered women.
22.Enforcing the ugly sharia on all,
23.Praising the pedophile rapist maha low day mohammad and his pimp allah
24.Hating the US of A the greatest satan.
25.Blowing up in crowded places.
26.Home bomb making.
27.Screwing daughter
28.Screwing neighbours.
29.Going beserk.
30.Killin one and all in the name of allah the pimp.
31.Camel banging and banging on camel back
32.Drinking camel piss.
33.Wiping the back side after crapping with odd number of stones.
34.Isolating women
35.Kissing the toilet tissue qrand and that too used toilet tissue paper.
36.Wuddhu 5 times a day.
Wow it's fantastic to be a moslem.So says the king khan. Let us see how and in what way all the above mentioned tings carried out by moscums in the name of allah the pimp the sabka low day and maha low day mohammad are all fantastic.
Ibrahim, Halal Pork, Raja,
Ibrahim, Halal Pork, Raja, Ibn Kamunna, Krishna, Marie, et al
Where are you. I would want to see you observations too.
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Muslims need to go to Saudi
Muslims need to go to Saudi Arabia and live as prophet said so. In America, in the state of Pa.and Arkansas, Clinton's state, Black Muslims are building enclaves for MUSLIM ONLY, where no gangs and "crime" will be allowed. (smile)
Polygamy, pedophilia, welfare, burquas and anything they want to do will be practiced. Carter will say nothing! The same Blacks hate whites when the prophet they follow was a man with a white penis. Black men have black penises, unless I missed something! Islam is a slap in the faces of the men and women who fought to stop slavery, Sharia Law called JIM CROW or segregation. Here it comes again. If infidels stopped buying from the holy Muslims, maybe they will go home. As long as they are allowed to teach hate in their host country, the termites will continue to eat our wood. We need to cover ourselves in steel. Termites cannot eat steel. Steel means knowledge.
I have not met one Muslims who was able to defeat me in a battle. Thanks to people like Mr. Sina and associates. Thanks to my teachers who had the guts to leave Islam after reading and learning about it evilness. The WORLD needs to stop Islam for good this time. The Devil got a good one this time. He knew how to deceive and if that doesnt work, kill them or terrorize them
#1. Shamsher
#1. Shamsher Says:
-----Islam is best expressed in its religion and its ""conception"" of god----
Only thing I don't understand is, if it is ""conception"" or "" Constipation""??
Sorry I am very poor in English.
Have a nice day Shamsher.
#3. proudkafir It would have
#3. proudkafir
It would have been nice of you if you had put the Islamic Pillars in alphabetical order.
I mean while reading from right to left. Arabic way or you can say Qu'randic way.
day before yesterday there
day before yesterday there was a bomb blast at a Shia mosque in Pakistan. This is such such a great example of Shia-Sunni brotherhood.
I mean, Shia and Sunni muslim brothers, play bomb games in the mosque.
#3 and #7 LOL!
#3 and #7 LOL!
Dear Mr. London I have made
Dear Mr. London
I have made these point under the 6/04 entry of Brigitte Gabriel. Let all be informed that it is not placards that the Jews will bring to Ramallah, but tanks and bulldozers. Everything there will be levelled and all resident life expunged. Total war is coming. 'Apartheid, racist, nazi' . These taunts are not of the remotest interest. The animation of Jewish action will no longer be predicated on the approval of others. None of these terms have any meaning any longer in a relativised, convoluted Western narrative that is driven by psychotic flaws.
Barbarism can only be met with greater barbarity and terror with greater terror. It is 'Western civility' that has brought us to this point. It will not be 'Western civility' that will redeem us from the precipice. Reciprocity in sentiment and reciprocity in deed. The muslim will face his mirror image in Israel and then peace will be upon the land when the idolators are removed from Jewish possessions and from within their midst.
Shamsher, I am really out of
Shamsher, I am really out of words these days. I have joined a Nationalistic Organisation and I am working on the ground to fight this menance called Islam. There is no point in commenting if we don't have the moral courage to translate our words into actions.
All this talk is useless till we don;t stand up for ourselves and fight for our honour, dignity and the freedom to be what we want to be.
Ibrahim, There is no
Ibrahim, There is no substitute for direct action on ground, which is an unmatched good deed. Nevertheless, don`t underestimate the power of words, for it galvanizes many into action. Both are necessary, believe me. I have so far been only doing action on ground, but now realize that words are necessary too.
Look at Ali Sina, he has inspired so many merely by his thoughts translated into words.Take care.
@Ibrahim i really appreciate
@Ibrahim i really appreciate your courage brother.
me and my friends are also trying to spread awareness about this social menance in our college.
INDIANS a lot of atrocities were commited on you by these muslims...check this http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/45331
What you say is true
What you say is true Shamsher, but the problem is that most people just read stuff, get angry, comment and go off to sleep thinking that this can't happen to me. That is the problem and hence my comment.
Dear Shamsher, Thanks for
Dear Shamsher,
Thanks for remembering me.You see i have a friend who works for the Indian embassy.He is a hindu,hardworking, sits up till 7pm everyday &"secular".I just could not convince him that islam is a evil cult.Though on his own admission his younger sister was sexually molested about 10 years ago by a muslim.
Fanatic muslims are not the problem,Secular nonmuslims are the problem & responsible for the growth of this weed.
Most Hindus are dumb and numb
Most Hindus are dumb and numb to reality. I tried to convince one of my roommate for 2 years with one simple logic. That is quran teaches to kill infidels while other religions (at the least Eastern religions) do not. Guess what. He cannot get into his head this simple fact and keeps arguing I am not different from terrorists???
Most of the world just refuses to acknowledge the fact because then they cannot digest this fact and so they block it out of their mind. They are really cowards in their hearts.
#11 Down with Islamonazis!
#11 Down with Islamonazis!
Hey, guys, At
Hey, guys,
At Ibrahim,
Words are indeed powerful. I know you know this, but we manage to pull in new members little by little. Some people don't always think,"it'll never happen to me." some are just afraid to take action. I looked at FFI on and off for a year before deciding to write my story. Remember White Swan.....she finally wrote in as well (one comment, but a start). It is like Krishna786 once said....our comments will start chain reactions. I think what you're doing is awesome, but PLEASE be careful!
Krishna,
You are right.....it is many non-muslims who are not willing to listen (and i used to be one of them) who cause just as many problems. Maybe not in terms of physical terror, but their apologies and tolerance encourage it daily.
I think it is time we start showing these evil idiots a taste of their own medicine! It would serve them right! The bc you guys were talking about a few short weeks ago is one one to kick off a good start. Don't go to Muslim stores or buy products made by countries where Muslims are the majority....of course it is sad for the rest of the population.
Raisinhead....go ahead and share my story with the papers and the mosques, but please take my name out. Let me know what kind of reaction you get...if any.
Marie, I'm responding to a
Marie,
I'm responding to a comment you made in another article, but can't remember which one it was....you are right to say they are the cursed ones....as they so graciously call us caphirs. Shame they don' see it that way.
Dear Ibrahim bhai,
Dear Ibrahim bhai, samalkay!!!! take care.
Yup that's Islam allright.
Yup that's Islam allright. Muslims believe they are entitled to do and say whatever they want, but when a kafir criticizes their prophet, they riot. When a kafir puts a copy of the Quran in the toilet, it's called a hate crime. But when a Muslim urinates and uses the Bible as toilet paper, it is justified.
# these actions of moslems,
# these actions of moslems, thopugh to us they look barbaric are infact pious ways as dictated by the pimp allah
Islamic way children are
Islamic way children are taught from day 1 after birth.The philosophy of hatred is bred and nurtured from a very young age.
1.A for Allah the pimp/azaan
2.Beheading/Bombing,bonking/Blowing up in crowded places.
3.Child molesting and raping
4.Destroying any thing un islamic!
5.Drinking camel piss
6.Emulating the rapist prophet
7.Fasting all day @ ramadan
8.Going beserk at the drop of a hat
9.head banging and arse lifting.
10.Hand chopping.
11.Hating christians and hindus
12.Hating school going girls and women
13.hating working women
14..hating un covered women.
15.Home bomb making.
16.hating jew/christians/shias/sunnis/any one!
17.Isolating women
18.Ignorance,illiteracy,idiotic, islamic way of life
19.Jaundiced world veiw, jealousy,jew fixation etc
20.Kafir killing
21.Kidnapping Kafir women
22.Killin one and all in the name of allah
23.Lying for the pimp and the rapist pedophile
24.Molesting any child,boy or girl matters not
25.Nut cases moslems
26.Oppressing women and children
27.Poverty a feature of all islamic countries.
29.Queuing up for jihad
30.Raping one and all(* mother, daughter etc)
31.Slave trading/Screwing neighbours.
32.Taqiyya
33.Uttering the nonsense Laillah hi stuff all the time
34.Violence from birth
35.Wuddhu
36.XXX paradise of islam
37.Yummy young muslimahs
38.ZZZZ kafirs asleep to the truth of islam!
Can some one send this to all the stupid secular brigade,srk etc to ask them what's fantastic about islam?
I have a serious question to
I have a serious question to faithone.Now that you have disproved the exsitence of allah, by posting a message here on this message board ( not to digress, I had this request to allah,If you are there and all knowing of every thing, stop faithone etc from posting here and you pasted here )
Is it not a fact that msolems are doing all the above heinouscrimes in the name of allah and mohammad all over the world.If its so whats the need to say islam means peace etc crap? Islam is evil
What Herbert London is saying
What Herbert London is saying must be repeated every opportunity we get. I have been saying the same thing since I became aware of Islam.
Continuum1 (Post 17), I understand what you are saying, you are absolutely right about Hindus. Hindus are blind, Muslims have been brutalizing India and Hindus for last 1200 years but they fail to see what is happening to them. My experience is not very different from yours. It is time you changed your line of explaining. Try a different approach. Give your friend some thing to read, not about Islam but about the horrible things Muslims are doing. It will take time but eventually he may be able to see the connection between Islam and Muslims.
We have the same problem in North America. Inspite of 9/11, majority of Americans and Canadians think that Islam is a religion of peace; that the 19 terrorists were misguided who perverted their religion.
It took me more than seven years to convince one of my friends that Islam is evil. Her uncle thinks I am racist. I am working on him. I have to change my modus operandi. Actually my friend is working on her uncle. It's working. It will take time. She talks about Muslims whenever she has the receptive audience. It works but slowly.
#24. proudkafir ; Nice of
#24. proudkafir ;
Nice of you pal.
Only thing which hurts the Jihadi pigs most is sarcasm and any infidel with a little sense of humor can punish the serious looking billy goat Mullahs like Jerk off Zakir Naik and Co.
Keep it up PK. ( Peekey bhi kar sakte ho) Even after getting drunk one can ridicule the Jihadi degenerates the "Suwar ke pille " Piglets.
ABC of islam is ABC ( aadha
ABC of islam is ABC ( aadha bulli cut) people who know hindi know the meaning of the abc!
The cut dik cretins ( cdc) blunted dik cretins, dik fixated morons etc are all the names for our friends msolems.In north india moslems are called katau kutta! If so many derogartory names are given to moslems, there must be some thing fantastic to be a moslem! I have a feeling that most moslems sleep with their daughters and daughters in law.is this what srk is referring to????
Arey bhai hum peeaky bane PK
Arey bhai hum peeaky bane PK and peeky kerange aur accha!
Dear free spirit WOOO my
Dear free spirit
WOOO my sentiment is hurt! You have mentioned all the names but mine.I am so up set.Am so hurt, feel like going for a strowl in the crowded market wearing a llah's belt and mohammad's pants!. At leats there will be 72 girls willing to rub against me..whhhhhu.
Wait Iam a kafir .By any chance do kafir s also get a small peek at these houries??? Hmm I wonder
The feature of allah's belt is that they spontaneously explode!
Mohammad's pants are dirty, stained,smell of urine and few inches above the ankle and have no zipper in the front! I remember having seen a cartoon some where
#17 & 26, Hindus act
#17 & 26, Hindus act foolishly because 99.9% hindus do not know even the name of their religion which is Sanatana Dharma let alone its deep meaning and relevance. Unlike Muslims who have thousands and thousands of madrassas to teach/learn Islam/Quran and Christians Sunday School to teach/learn Bible, there is no such facility for hindu masses thereby remaining in darkness; this lack of awareness about Sanatana Dharma is the main reason why they are lured to Abrahamic religions. The only remedy to enlighten hindus as to the goodness of SD is establish a system whereby hindu children are taught Sanatana Dharma in its proper perspective. I hope, if BJP comes to power in the next election they will do the necessary towards this end. Without religious education hindus cannot be awaken from slumber as the adage goes "ignorance is bliss".
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