Uzma Bakht vs Ali Sina

Printer-friendly versionSend to friendPDF versionFrom: uz am To: faithfreedom2@gmail.com Date: Apr 23, 2006 3:45 AM Subject: Forum or discussions Sin A. Unlike other muslims i will not become extreamly angry as my very dear beloved Prophet Mohammad (P.B.U.H) was the greatest of all in all respects and not even you can deny it in your very heart. I won't talk much about what you are trying to prove on your website and to prove or not that time already has gone as Islam is now completed 1400 years ago everything is there. Kafir that you are i know it is in blood of Kafirs to try divert minds of other people. If what you claim our Prophet had done and vice versa, then why is he ranked No 1 in a non Muslim state as the best and most influential Man on this earth. In your tiny little illitrate mind you have for your satisifaction proved many things...For the world Prove one thing: PROVE A SINGLE VERSE OF QURAN WRONG...PROVE THAT YOU CAN WRITE SOME WHAT LIKE QURAN... I GIVE YOU 25 YEARS AND MORE IN WHICH YOU HAVE TO PROVE QURAN WRONG AS FOR THE LAST 1400 YEARS NO ONE EVER HAS PROVEN QURAN WRONG. IT IS AN OPEN CHALLANGE PROVE QURAN WRONG. I KNOW YOU CANNOT IN ANYWAYS BUT ITS A CHALLANGE FOR YOU. FOR YOUR INFORMATION YOU HAVE NOT PROVED ANYTHING WRONG BUT TRIED TO CHANGE THINGS AROUND BY CHANGING VERSES ETC THAT WHAT YOU DID IN MOST CASES AND INCOMPLETED VERSES. Non Sunni Iranians are all Kafirs. Those who follows Mohammad (P.B.U.H) in the end of this world will go to Heaven and non other...and all followers of false religions to the Hell. IF YOU ARE RIGHT TELL ME WHY BIBLE SAY THAT A TRUE CHRISTIAN THE SO CALLED GODS RELIGION.... A REAL CHRISTIAN IS ONE WHO TAKES POISON AND STILL REMAIN ALIVE..IMAGINE MODREN SCIENCE SAYS YOU TAKE POISON AND YOU'LL DIE. WHAT RUBBISH IS FAKE BIBLE SAYING POISON CAN YOU TAKE POSION. I CHALLANGE YOU TO TAKE POISION IN FRONT OF EVERYONE I INVITE YOU TO ANY PART OF THE WORLD YOU WANT TO PROVE YOU ARE A TRUE CHRISTIAN TAKE POISON IN FRONT OF HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE I WILL ARRAGE IT FOR YOU EVERYTHING. NO CHRISTIANS FOLLOWS JESUS (PBUH) Jesus (pbuh) said, "If you love me, keep my commandments." (John 14:15) He said further, Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven . . ." (Matthew 5:19) Every Christian controversialist you question, "Do you keep the laws and the commandments?" will answer, "No!" If you ask further, "Why don't you?" He will if he is a Bible-thumper, invariably reply, "The law is nailed to the cross!" Meaning the law is done away with. "We are now living under grace!" You guys are playing with bible as if it is a taable tennish ball. "MY CHOICE OF MUHAMMAD TO LEAD THE LIST OF THE WORLD'S MOST INFLUENTIAL PERSONS MAY SURPRISE SOME READERS AND MAY BE QUESTIONED BY OTHERS, BUT HE WAS THE ONLY MAN IN HISTORY WHO WAS SUPREMELY SUCCESSFUL ON BOTH THE RELIGIOUS AND SECULAR LEVEL." Michael H. Hart "The 100: A Ranking of the Most Influential Persons in History", New York: Hart Publishing Company, Inc., 1978, p.33. In recent times, a book has been published in America titled "The 100," or the Top One hundred, or the Greatest Hundred in History. A certain Michael H. Hart, described as a historian, mathematician and astronomer has written this novel book. He has searched history, seeking for men who had the greatest influence on mankind. In this book he gives us The hundred most influential men, including Asoka, Aristotle, Buddha, Confucius, Hitler, Plato, and Zoroaster. He does not give us a mere chart of the topmost "one hundred" from the point of view of their influence on people, but he evaluates the degree of their influence and rates them in order of their excellence from No. 1, through to No. 100. He gives us his reasons for the placing of his candidates. We are not asked to agree with him, but we cannot help admire the man's research and honesty. The most amazing thing about his selection is that he has put our Nabee-e-Kareem, the Holy Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) as No. 1, the first of his "100!" Thus confirming, unknowingly, God's Own testimony in His Final Revelation to the World: MOST CERTAINLY, YOU HAVE IN THE MESSENGER OF ALLAH AN EXCELLENT PATTERN (OF BEHAVIOUR) Holy Qur’ân 33:21 Hart placing the Prophet of Islam as No. 1, has naturally pleased the Muslims. But his choice as shocked the Non-Muslims, more specially the Jews and the Christians, who consider this as an affront. What? Jesus (pbuh) No. 3 and Moses (pbuh) No. 40! This is for them very difficult to stomach, but what says Hart? Let us hear his arguments – SINCE THERE ARE ROUGHLY TWICE [The latest estimate is that there are one thousand million Muslims in the world and one thousand two hundred million Christians] AS MANY CHRISTIANS IN THE WORLD, IT MAY INITIALLY SEEM STRANGE THAT MUHAMMAD HAS BEEN RANKED HIGHER THAN JESUS. THERE ARE TWO PRINCIPAL REASONS FOR THAT DECISION. FIRST , MUHAMMAD PLAYED A FAR MORE IMPORTANT ROLE IN THE EVELOPMENT OF ISLAM THAN JESUS DID IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF CHRISTIANITY. ALTHOUGH JESUS WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MAIN ETHICAL AND MORAL PRECEPTS OF CHRISTIANITY (INSOFAR AS THESE DIFFERED FROM JUDAISM), ST. PAUL WAS THE MAIN DEVELOPER OF CHRISTIAN THEOLOGY, ITS PRINCIPAL PROSELYTIZER, AND THE AUTHOR OF A LARGE PORTION OF THE NEW TESTAMENT. MUHAMMAD, HOWEVER, WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR BOTH THE THEOLOGY OF ISLAM AND ITS MAIN ETHICAL AND MORAL PRINCIPLES. IN ADDITION, HE PLAYED THE KEY ROLE IN PROSELYTIZING THE NEW FAITH, AND IN ESTABLISHING THE RELIGIOUS PRACTICES OF ISLAM. Michael H. Hart in his book - "THE 100"-pages 38/39 So whatever till now you have tried to prove in ur head is all wrong as u have given false or incomplete info and verses of Quran and their background to why those verses where presented at that time. I've challanged you already STUDY QURAN PROVE IT WRONG YOU HAVE A LONG LONG TIME prove what u believe in and in the end you will be on death bed and you won't prove anything because you can't. So until then wait and watch and keep your self happy as this is your world and the world HEAVENS is for Muslims..I and you will meet face to face on the day of Judgement i believe so this will happen. By the way you have to remove you website it is natural for some muslims to get angry on this said wrong about Our Prophets similarly non muslim like you get more angry to knowing everything about Islam is truth and satisfy your self by trying to torcher muslims mentally you guys are trying hard but its not convincing keep trying until you and we meet on the final day of this world hahaha...hahaha i feel sorry for you. Anti Muslim books prove nothing...Just prove what i want you to prove above. Current bible full of errors...all current non muslim religious books of west and east along with iranian religious books wrong non proved all imagination...you call muslims terrorists...so what happens if your country and you are captives of some other US NATO LIKE forces and you fight against them see you will be called terorist. A policeman spreads terrors in the hearts of those who are robber etc so will you call a policeman terrorist lol. Comeon people like you have no brains but watermelons in ur head hahaha. Use you brains. [color=purple] There are many errors in the Quran and the quran has been proven wrong many a times. The mufti of mecca passed a fatwa in 1992 that anyone who claimed that the earth was not flat was kaafir. Why? Because he was sure it was so because the Quran says so. The quran does say that the earth is flat and the truth is that it is not. Simple the quran is wrong. The quran says that there was a hadrat aadam who many muslims calculate lived about 6000 years ago. The earth is about 5 billion years old and there was no hadraat aadam. Man evovled over millions of years. The quraan is wrong on that one too. Quran says there was a hadrat moosa, and now it turns out that there is no evidence for a moosa either. He was a story tellers invention of much much later. The quran is wrong on that one too. You as muslim are too scared of your boogey man allah who is going to roast in you hell to think straight. Yes be afraid be very very afraid your boogey man allah is going to get you. [/color] From: uz am To: FFI Date: Apr 24, 2006 1:31 AM Subject: Forum or discussions SIN A, your website is extreamly restricted and it shows that you are afraid to come out and talk to people in open why because you are afraid. You don't even have you own e-mail addresss, this website general e-mail address is used to foward questions n answers to you and then you reply how would you like to put live conversation to your site but as it looks clear You as well as your site is Narrow. Besides read below you are wrong again Quran is right. I suggest you redesign your website. .... [There is then a very long (about 10 pages) of cut and paste from irf.net site] ..... [color=purple] Just because you can cut and paste does not mean anything. All of these points have been Answered in AliSina's writings and website. Learn to think on your own and write your own stuff instead of merely cutting and pasting. Doubtless [/color] How many times do i have to tell you use ur pinhead ur so eager to let world know let them know post it whatever i wrote to you....on your forum. Why don't you do it your self. Besides your trying to let world know it...cuz its the truth...as i told you earlier you site is very restricted and narow like you...i've given some of answers to your questions which you call cut paste as all muslims have same answer to what you ask Islam is a complete religion. After you've got the answers already i want you to display them on your website if you can't do it dosn't matter. Quran says earth is not flat but u still insist that Quran says that...Do the translation and research get the arab-english dictionary find out the meanings and the context in which they have to be used logically. [And then there is a cut and paste of many pages ....] [color=purple] I have no intention of posting your cut and paste jobbie on the forum. You want to post your nonsense ... feel free. [/color] Doubtless. From: uz am To: faithfreedom2@gmail.com Date: Apr 24, 2006 2:48 AM Subject: CHALLANGES-dr.zakir naik.... Dr. Zakir Naik in all his messages and programs opens called people like you for dbaes and challanges...The so caled Admin team e-mail that you posted on the site is fake and false and written by you and your team...I will pay all expenses for you and your team to go to Any part of the world and challange Dr. Zakir Naik...as well Dr. Zakir Naik already proved about Quran and Islam tht it is the true book of Allah.. you can see all the challanges and debates on those video cassettes and DVD-CDS etc and if you want copy of those for free i will sent it to you if you don't have money to buy..As i told you all of you website is to be redesign and open to everyone to find out if you really can take up the challange..as for now you have narrowed everything on your site and self generated informations etc are posted to project the people really are looking into ur site with interest... Haha again Please Go get help study research and get knowledge..Let there be an open oFFLINE-oNLINE CHALLANGE. [color=purple] FFI does not lie like Islam teaches the muslims. Information on FFI is correct. Yes, expose the identities so the faithful believers can then kill the ex-muslims? If you want to write a response to any of AliSina's challange then do so. But if you are going to be a cut and paste artist then tell the person who wrote it in the first place to respond. Zakir Naik knows better than to respond the challange to AliSina, and that is why he has tried getting his front men to put silly conditions of a 'big audience' etc. Any challange can be held on the Internet. Doubtless[/color] Mr. Kafir...see you didn't reply to the truth the you received. As i told you it is not the cut copy paste it is Islam The religion is already complete nothing can be added to this religion anymore so what i did is gave you the evidence ad the ruth right in ur face not copy paste...and u've diverted from the truth you can't digest the truth simply all i get from you is simple sorry words...No answer is debate and challange must be in public in any part of the world just as religions were spread by person to person...Simply because you've no truth and because for some dollarish reason you've divered urself from the truth which still is present in ur pinhead. Dr. Zakir Niak or any Islamic greatest scholars like him knowledgable of highest respect as you can't match them and you don't have necessary knowledge and the truth to confront them, that is why you don't want debate in public and live transmission. Again Mr. Kafir you have got the truth that for you i copy pasted and you might have read it and is proved for your questions but as i told you you don't want to see ur self in desrespected position so u deny the truth that all you do so what it doesn't chage the truth you've still not proven Quran wrong...Research and sudy is what you've to do not replying with some cold words with no meaning to them unclear vague. [color=purple] You can post your stupid claim on the FFI forum. The world will then get to see you cut and paste and they can decide whether what you say is true or not. Now do not be shy and do post it. Doubtless.[/color] From: FFI To: uz am Date: Apr 26, 2006 8:09 AM Subject: Re: CHALLANGES-dr.zakir naik.... talking on the subject whether you have gone through all of my e-mails or not in detail or just read first lines and there reply stupidly..frankly your boring which it comes to truth..you like to fight instead of talking on the main subject of what is truth. Info on christianity that your peeps provide on ur site All cut copy paste. Challange is open for you in public in any part of the world live on tv..Prove Quran wrong with all references. [color=purple] Yeah go on live tv and then wait to get killed by momins. What a deal ! People are learning the truth via the web and the internet. Quran is wrong. Read FFI for references. Doubtless [/color]