titu miah vs the FFI Staff - Part II

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September 13, 2006
Hey sick ass *****,
Sending me other people to talk to?
I like talking to you motherfuka. Your stinking ass is gonna get dragged to hell kufar dog, YOU'VE BEEN WARNED MOTHERFUCKA!! Have the courage to repent and do it quick or your gonna get it BIG time. Scaremongering? No motherfuka no, This is REALITY kufar dog and your life is worth ***** all apostate imposter dogfaced sodomite ***** your mother was probably the best thing you EVER did.


To FFI:
I've read ali motherfukas views. What a load of crap!!

SEND THIS MESSAGE TO YOUR MASTER:

I CHALLENGE ALI MOTHERFUKA TO DEBATE WITH ME COME ON MOTHERFUKA!! I'LL BE GENTLE ***** AND I WONT CURSE. I WANT YOUR $50,000 KAFIR PIG AND YOUR WEB SHUTDOWN. I AINT ZAKIR NAIK SO WHAT YOU SCARED OF?

To FFI:
September 14, 2006

Hey Kufar,

Doubting thomas eh?

Islam Watch eh?

Motherfuka eh?

To FFI
September 14, 2006
Subject: Apologie

Im glad obsession the film does admit there are good muslims ( Vast majority ) who are disgusted by terrorism and are also affected by it. Islam does not condone violence of any nature except to defend ourselves, Everyone has that right. Radical Islam is a sect. The vast majority are moderate muslims who do not want harm to come to the innocent including women and children and want peace. This is all we want peace between muslims and kafirs.

I will not insult you anymore


To Titu
September 16, 2006

titu,

you insults do not bother me in the least, please understand that. Your anger expresses your hurt and pain. I understand that too. But you have to understand that FFI is by ex-muslims. We have left Islam because we consider Islam to be the problem. Of course the vast majority of muslims are good people. Ex-muslims are convinced that it is only those muslims who try to emulate the sunnah of muhammed and follow the quran too closely that become a problem for humanity. I know you do not want to hear this. You get angry at that. I understand that as well. You may want to join the FFI forum and talk to people there. There are many ex-muslims there. We have had muslims like yourself who cursed and were very angry in the begining but eventually became ex-muslims. The world is now too small to have the permanent division that Islam creates between muslims and kafirs. It is absolutely crazy to think that God creates so that a majority of his own creation will roast in hell for eternity. Think about it. I will always be willing to talk to you if you can talk, but if you get so angry that you can only curse then there is very little point.

doubtless.


To FFI
September 16, 2006

titu,

you insults do not bother me in the least, please understand that. Your anger expresses your hurt and pain.

You insulting the prophet is my only problem

I understand that too. But you have to understand that FFI is by ex-muslims. We have left Islam because we consider Islam to be the problem.

I beleive Islam is the cure.

Of course the vast majority of muslims are good people. Ex-muslims are convinced that it is only those muslims who try to emulate the sunnah of muhammed and follow the quran too closely that become a problem for humanity.

Thats not true. The muslims who follow the quran and sunnah are the ones trying to stop the violence caused by muslim sects who see other muslims as a target

I know you do not want to hear this.

Fire away

You get angry at that. I understand that as well.

No. I think your not very good at understanding people, Especially muslims

You may want to join the FFI forum and talk to people there.

Nahhhh

There are many ex-muslims there.

Whatever.

We have had muslims like yourself who cursed and were very angry in the begining but eventually became ex-muslims.

They were weak, Satan destroyed them

The world is now too small to have the permanent division that Islam creates between muslims and kafirs.

You blame muslims for everything

It is absolutely crazy to think that God creates so that a majority of his own creation will roast in hell for eternity.

And its absolutely crazy to beleive that god is not the greatest judge

Think about it. I will always be willing to talk to you if you can talk, but if you get so angry that you can only curse then there is very little point.

I only get angry because of yoor ignorance, But i cant change that, I realise that now.



To FFI
September 19, 2006

You say you commit yourself to "peace and that Islam brings hatred". You say that Islam is a "violent Cult" but what you don't see is that You've commited yourself to a Cult led by Ali Sina. A cult that spreads hatred which in turn creates violence. A hatred for Islam that will surpases Adolf Hitler's hatred of the Jews. Spreading your twisted views to the ignorant masses and penertrating every corner of the globe, Infecting and spreading your Islamaphobic ideas and theories, Scaremongering and bringing doubt into the minds of uneducated young muslims. Muslims will always be the strangers in this world. But this is our lot as muslims and followers of the great prophet peace be upon him who has said " This deen came as something strange and will return as something strange" "So give glad tidings to the strangers". The "great war" is upon us, Will you destroy more innocent lives just as the terrorists are? Life is life no matter who it is, This website has one purpose, To destroy lives. This is what your part of, A fascist movement built upon the foundations of evil and deceit corrupting the minds of the good. God is with the muslims, We are the true worshippers of god and we will be the mighty nation that we once were. The kafirs days are numbered, Soon there will be a change in the world that mankind has never witnessed, The return of the Messiah and he will be with the muslims against the oppressers. Islam will bring justice to the world and the return to worshipping the one true god "ALLAH".



To Titu,
September 20, 2006

Titu,
those are indeed strange charges coming from one who was abusing and
telling me to die die die only a few emails ago. Where has FFI
advocated killing of a single human being? Only a couple of days ago,
true believers of muhammed, have announced that they the pope will
have to pay for his transgression. They intend to kill him. You lose
your temper suffieciently that you would kill anyone questioning
muhammed. I do not believe any of the dooms day and the future
scenario you paint. That is normal for any cult. People have been
waiting for some savior to come for a long long time. I do not
believe in any of these tales.
FFI can be shut down rapidly by simply meeting Ali Sina's challenge.
Show that the charges he brings against muhammed are not supported by
the muslim historians and "scriptures" themselves. It is as simple as
that. Muslims have killed millions of people over their history in
the name of Islam. FFI does not want anyone to be killed or even
hurt. That is the reason we use the internet to convey our message
and that is why we are trying to get muslims to see the evil that
Islam really is.

doubtless.


To FFI
September 20,2006

I can't be bothered with you anymore, You haven't convinced me to abandon god. The diffrence between you and me is i trust gods actions and you dont. I trust the prophet and you have no reason to. I have faith and you have no hope. One day i hope you can look past your prejudice against muslims and learn to accept the fact that a minority is causing violence not the majority. As for the pope i don't care what he say's, Of course he will say derogatory things about Islam, Kafirs always do. Forget about the 7 counts of incest in the bible and the inqusition and the pope who had a relationship with Adolf Hitler. If the "Rotweiler" can't control his mouth it aint my problem. There is no possibility of me leaving Islam, It will never happen so try to convince someone else. Islam is growing stronger and the disbelievers are at a loss, Desperate to hold on to there sinfull way of life. We will reclaim the earth for god that is our mission and nothing will stand in our way. Masjid al aqsa will be ours.

"ALLAH IS THE GREATEST"




To Titu,
Semptember 20, 2006

Okay.

doubtless.



To FFI
Semptember 20, 2006

I would like to express my thanks to you for opening my eyes. I am so gratefull i thought i should text you to show my appreciation. I have been foolish and abusive to you for misunderstanding your views. What your doing is indeed a great thing and i hope your work continues with as much enthusiasm and commitment as possible. Only thing is the vast majority of people have better things to do than look at your site.

What i've realised is that your rooting out all the weak and fabricated documentation and downright false accusations and lies so that muslims have no choice but to follow the most authentic text, Beleif, and practice of the best generation which was the prophets generation and read the quran in context and entirety. Do you not realise that scholars can talk for many hours by just quoting one verse from the quran? I have witnessed this myself.

I would like for you to continue running this site so that all muslims can unite under one banner and return to the original Islam that was given to us by god. You are not destroying Islam but preserving it and strenghening the faith of the true beleivers by eradicating the wrong ideology and beleifs of the ignorant blind following muslims of today. You have proven there is indeed false and fabricated hadith which have entered Islam from the hypocrites and enemies of the prophet and misunderstanding of Islam by the vast majority of muslims.

This will help muslims to look at Islam for authentic proof and proper understanding of quran text in context ( judging by the comments made by the pope i would think he would agree that you put things into context ). Beleif is based on proof and authenticity, I have not read any text in the quran that makes me want to commit acts of terrorism or violence or to kill kafirs and i have read the quran many times, This is because you read it in context and as a person who knows god does not endorse violence except in defence.

In fact it has given me a heart of gold and strenghened my faith, Without the quran i would not be the compassionate, loving, Forgiving person that i am. Islam has brought so much beauty into my life because it is the truth. I knew faith at a very very young age before i could read the quran, You see either you have it or you don't. You can fool the ignorant masses because they can't see the evidence and follow sina blindly, But muslims with true faith and knowledge will only be steadfast and even more commited to Islam and will return to there lord. So keep up the good work, And only god can stop you,

Literally.



To Titu
September 21, 2006

Good. You see freedom of speech is a good thing. That is why when you cried out Die, die, die to me in anguish because your prophet was criticised is the bad thing for islam. That is why death penalty for apostates is bad for Islam. If there is truth in Islam it will withstand questioning and examination, but you cannot insist that it is there and anyone who says it is not there should be killed.
Come and help us. Join the FFI forum and help show the truth as you see it. Participate in the dialog and be open to the truth and do not be afraid of where it leads you. I have looked and examined the Quran and the life of muhammed and I reached a very different conclusion.

doubtless.

To FFI:

We say therefore, that there is no guarantee for the Muslims against falling into contradictions of the Qur’aan and the Sunnah, except to return to the methodology of the venerable Salaf. We sincerely believe that among the reasons for the present state of the Muslims is their differences in the interpretation of the texts from the Qur‘aan and the Sunnah, due to their dependence upon other than what we call the Salafee method.

Quoted by sheikh naseer uddin al albani.


To Titu

But titu, did you know that even among the salafee they have fights and some have killed each other. Who is the true salafee? When there were fights among the companions of muhammed, the generation that you want to emulate, how are you going to stop the fights now? How many of the companions of muhammed were assasinated? Why? Is that the best Islam has to offer? Internal fights and assasinations?

doubtless.


To FFI
September 22, 2006

Muslims must allow the people to express there views, This is our way. But you must acknowledge that there are rules even in Islam. The apostate is in a more difficult position than a kafir because he has abandonded the truth and according to gods law the death penalty must stand. The view of the scholars is that there must be substantial evidence before the death penalty is issued, But we are not in Saudia Arabia and this is the Christian land, We MUST abide by the laws of our country because otherwise it amounts to murder. You must understand that muslims view Islam in a very diffrent way to non muslims, We can see the big picture as we practice and read the scriptures, i have been muslim for 30 years and if there was any doubt in my mind i would not be. I have read the bible and the torah and studied other faiths as a child but only islam has given me the answers im looking for, This is my view and this will never change. But i totally agree with you that people are entitled to there opinion as i have found myself questioning other peoples faiths and beleifs. Dialogue is key to discovering the truth and islam MUst be scrutinized and questioned to arrive to the correct conclusion.



To Titu
September 22, 2006

So are you saying that the dialog can only take place in the kufr west? How can you have a dialog in the muslim lands if the apostate are to be killed? Some one starts questioning and his or her logic , right or wrong, leads that person to see Islam as faulty and incorrect. They give Islam up. They start viewing muhammed as an evil man, as I do. Now if they try to present that evidence and view, they are to be put to death if they do not shut up and prented that they have recanted? Do you really think that is what Islam really wants? Do you understand why most muslims are hypocrites and most muslims do not know much about Islam. Every time anyone starts questioning they are scared for their lives. Most muslims learn very quickly never to question. That is the reason that most muslims always tell you that they do not know and they will have to ask a scholar. Why question if the result can be death?

doubtless.


To FFI:
September 25, 2006

But titu, did you know that even among the salafee they have fights and some have killed each other. Who is the true salafee? When there were fights among the companions of muhammed, the generation that you want to emulate, how are you going to stop the fights now? How many of the companions of muhammed were assasinated? Why? Is that the best Islam has to offer? Internal fights and assasinations?

Internal fights and assasinations happen in Islam i agree but it does so in any part of the world and any system. Islam does not condone this, On the contrary it must be avoided at all costs. There are good muslims just as there are bad, We have a problem with division and leadership. You have to remember that Islam and muslims are two diffrent things and must not be confused as one, For that reason we are all human and some will make the mistake of murder to make a statement.


To Titu
September 25, 2006

So when was real Islam implemented on this earth? You are the one who considers the generation around muhammed to be perfect and your history tells the world that they were fighting and killing each other. So can Islam ever be implemented or it is just your pipe dream to kill other people and claim that you do it on allah's behalf? If the best generation could not follow Islam, what chance do people have now? Think. You can think even with all that brain washing of Islam trying to keep you in a stupor.

doubtless.



To FFI:
September 25, 2006

So are you saying that the dialog can only take place in the kufr west? How can you have a dialog in the muslim lands if the apostate are to be killed?

We must follow the laws of the land , I would advice not to go to a muslim land and shout that your an apostate.

Some one starts questioning and his or her logic , right or wrong, leads that person to see Islam as faulty and incorrect.

We must have proof of this

They give Islam up. They start viewing muhammed as an evil man, as I do. Now if they try to present that evidence and view, they are to be put to death if they do not shut up and prented that they have recanted?

Depends which country your in

Do you really think that is what Islam really wants?

Islam is not a being but a way of life. Apostacy is a major crime in Islam, I have no problem with that view and would advice anyone to think twice before declaring themselves an apostate.


Do you understand why most muslims are hypocrites and most muslims do not know much about Islam. Every time anyone starts questioning they are scared for their lives. Most muslims learn very quickly never to question. That is the reason that most muslims always tell you that they do not know and they will have to ask a scholar. Why question if the result can be death?

I agree many muslims do not know anything about Islam, But it is also better to say you don't know than to guess. But Muslims must question and scrutinize every aspect of Islam otherwise its blatant blind following. Also not all apostates are put to death.





To Titu
September 25, 2006>
You want proof of apostacy? Here take a look:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-1470584,00.html
http://www.islam-watch.org/leavingislam.htm
http://www.islam-watch.org/LeavingIslam/MalayLeaveIslam.htm

So in effect you are saying your muslim lands are prisons. And this you think is a recommendation for islam? Okay.

doubtless.

To FFI
September 26, 2006

Apostacy is nothing new to Islam. There will always be people turning away from Islam just like in any relegion, Apostacy is not a major issue , Unless you happen to be one.



To Titu:
September 26, 2006
Then why kill them? What ever happened to "no compulsion under religion" nonsense?

doubtless.



To FFI
September 26, 2006

There is no compulsion as a non beleiver but once you have entered into Islam and chosen to apostate you have to accept the punishment or hide it in your soul. I have no sympathy for apostates.


To FFI
September 26, 2006


So when was real Islam implemented on this earth?

1400 years ago when god declared " Today i have perfected your deen and named it Islam"


You are the one who considers the generation around muhammed to be perfect and your history tells the world that they were fighting and killing each other.

Muslims the world over agree that they were the best generation. Our history does not tell the world we were fighting and killing each other, That was just a small part of Islamic history concocted by the hypocrites and traitors.


So can Islam ever be implemented or it is just your pipe dream to kill other people and claim that you do it on allah's behalf?

Of course it can be implemented, A billion muslims do, Why would i kill other people on allahs behalf?


If the best generation could not follow Islam, what chance do people have now? Think. You can think even with all that brain washing of Islam trying to keep you in a stupor.

Trying to use mental tactics? won't work. More like you've been brainwashed to deny Islam in every form logically or otherwise. I'm thinking but its logical to a muslim that apostates should be punished for seeing the truth and denying it when in there heart they know Islam is the truth.



To Titu
September 26, 2006

Tell me the historian you want to go by for the early history of Islam, and we will go by that one. Your first three caliphas assasinated. Wars and raids galore. And that is the perfect deen? Now where do the billion muslim come from? According to you most of them are heretics and not true muslims in the first place. And it is logical to kill apostates by you. And that is the law of Allah you want for he world. I know that Islam is wrong in my heart. I can show you the evil in Islam. You are an example for humanity to see what Islam does to a human. But you know that in my heart I must know that Islam is good and for that reason I must be killed. I am not allowed to speak what I really think. I am not allowed to question the life of muhammed. If I do not buy into the lame excuses that muslims have woven to justify the horrendously evil acts of muhammed, I am to be killed? Muhammed had people assasinated, muhammed looted other peoples property, muhammed enslaved others families and sold them, etc. etc. and you make excuses for all of that, and you get angry when muhammed is cursed, and you want to kill living people who dare to speak what they truly believe!! And Islam has not damaged you? Okay, whatever.

doubtless



To FFI
September 27, 2006

Tell me the historian you want to go by for the early history of Islam, and we will go by that one. Your first three caliphas assasinated. Wars and raids galore. And that is the perfect deen?

As i said before Islam and muslims are two diffrent things dont confuse the actions of people with the deen.

Now where do the billion muslim come from? According to you most of them are heretics and not true muslims in the first place. And it is logical to kill apostates by you.

Self declared apostates and heretics will be punished, Not the ignorant.

And that is the law of Allah you want for he world.

The law of allah will prevail.

I know that Islam is wrong in my heart

It's not good to judge something with just emotion but also proof and logic.

I can show you the evil in Islam.

Your overreacting. You have no proof. I've studied Islam with great zeal so dont think your talking to an amateur

You are an example for humanity to see what Islam does to a human.

How is that then?

But you know that in my heart I must know that Islam is good and for that reason I must be killed.

But in your heart you beleive it to be evil and you can't escape that feeling, No one can force you to beleive.

I am not allowed to speak what I really think. I am not allowed to question the life of muhammed

So what have you been doing all this time? You've insulted, Slandered, And shown pure hatred towards a man that has never done you any harm, propagating these myths about this great man.

If I do not buy into the lame excuses that muslims have woven to justify the horrendously evil acts of muhammed, I am to be killed? Muhammed had people assasinated, muhammed looted other peoples property, muhammed enslaved others families and sold them, etc. etc. and you make excuses for all of that, and you get angry when muhammed is cursed, and you want to kill living people who dare to speak what they truly believe!! And Islam has not damaged you? Okay, whatever.

Your the one thats damaged, Your propaganda is useless. There have been many REAL tyrants, Barbarians, Dictators in the world and bush is one of them. Have you not read that according to western author David Carlisle that Muhammed was the number one most influental man ever? Even western scholars have repudiated the myth of muslims coercing others to convert. The great historian De Lacy o' leary wrote:

" History makes it clear, however, that legend of fanatical muslims, sweeping through the world and forcing Islam at the point of sword upon conquered races is one of the fantastically absurd myths that historians have ever repeated"

Muslims ruled spain for roughly 800 years, During this time, and up until they were forced out, The non muslims there were alive and flourishing. Additionally, Christian and jewish minorities have survived in the muslim lands of the Middle east for centuries. Countries such as Egypt, Morocco, Palestine, Lebanon, Syria, and jordan all have significant Christian and jewish populations.

The Quran says " Let there be no compulsion in relegion: Truth standsout clear from error: whoever rejects evil and believes in god has grasped the most trustworthy hand hold, that never breaks. And god hears and knows all things"

You accuse me of becoming errational, upset and angry but what are you doing? Thats very hypoc



To FFI
September 27, 2006
APOSTATE PARDONED BY HOLY PROPHET

Abdullah bin Abi Sarah was one of the scribes of the Holy Prophet, peace be on him, in Medina. He became an apostate and went and joined the Meccans and identified himself with them. On the fall of Mecca, he was among those few persons who were condemned to death by the Holy Prophet, peace be on him, on account of their misdeeds. He was a foster brother of Hazrat Usman bin Affan, who gave him shelter in his house where he remained hidden for some days. When order was restored in Mecca, Hazrat Usman interceded with the Holy Prophet on his behalf, who remained silent for a while and then signified his forgiveness of Abdullah. This incident is mentioned both in the Tafseer Kabeer of Imam Razi (Vol. V, p.527), and in the commentary Ruhul Maani (Vol. IV, p.484).

This incident also furnishes clear proof that there was no penalty for apostacy in Islam. Abdullah bin Abi Sarah had been condemned on account of his political offences and not on account of his apostacy. Had the punishment for apostacy been death, Hazrat Usman would never have given him shelter, and the Holy Prophet would never have accepted Hazrat Usman's intercession on his behalf.

It is well known that the Holy Prophet never accepted any intercession in respect of the prescribed punishment for an offence. If anyone attempted intercession in such a case, the Holy Prophet rejected it and was gravely displeased with the intercessor . This is well illustrated by the case of a woman of the Makhzoom who had been found guilty of theft. Bokhari has related on the authority of Aisha: The Quraish were much disturbed on account of a Makhzoomi woman who had committed theft. They consulted together and wondered who could approach the Holy Prophet, peace be on him, on her behalf, except Usamah bin Zaid, whom the Holy Prophet held dear. They persuaded Usamah to approach the Holy Prophet, and intercede on behalf of the woman. When he did so, the Holy Prophet rebuked him: Do you intercede in respect of a penalty prescribed by Allah? Then he stood up and, addressing his companions, said: Many people before you went astray because they overlooked the offence of a person belonging to a good family and imposed the prescribed penalty upon a common thief. I call God to witness that if Fatimah, daughter of Muhammad, were to be guilty of theft, I would certainly cut off her hand (Bokhari, Indian edition, p.lOO3).

Thus it can be seen what was the attitude of the Holy Prophet in respect of prescribed penalties. Had Abdullah bin Abi Sarah been liable to the penalty of death on account of his apostacy, the Holy Prophet would never have accepted Hazrat Usman's intercession on his behalf and would have responded to Hazrat Usman in the same way as he had responded to Usamah.

EXAMINATION OF AHADEES .... [The cut and paste continues for couple of pages ...]



To Titu
September 27, 2006

Titu,
You sent me a cut and paste from the following link:
http://www.alislam.org/books/apostacy/12.html

Now you are sending me Ahmeddiya take on Islam? Ahamddiya are not
even muslims and you were telling me about the Salaf? Okay let us
consider that anyway.

In what you sent me, I pick one case:

Some comment may be offered on the ahadees that are set forth in
support of their position by those who contend that apostacy is
punishable with death. Abi Qalabah reports on the authority of Anas:
Some people of Akal or Urainah came to Medina and found that its
climate disagreed with them. The Holy Prophet told them to go and stay
among his she-camels outside Medina and drink their milk. They
followed his instructions, and when they were fully restored they
killed the Holy Prophet's keeper of the camels and drove away the
camels. When the Holy Prophet was informed of this incident, he sent
some men after them who caught them and brought them to the Holy
Prophet. He directed that they should be tortured in the same way as
they had tortured his keeper of the camels.




Which hadith or where does your author get the information that "they
should be tortured in the same way as they had tortured his keeper of
the camels". That is being manufactured by your author. The
punishment given to them was according to the Hadd laws given in the
quran for "fighting against Allah and his Messenger" except for
burning of the eyes. So please provide reference of where it is given
that the muderers of the keeper of the camels had tortured before they
mudered. Make sure you try to find this for this alone will tell you
how factual and real all the fancy history of the Salafis really is.

And here is the punishment in the Quran for those who fight Allah and His messenger:

005.033
YUSUFALI: The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His
Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the
land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and
feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their
disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the
Hereafter;
PICKTHAL: The only reward of those who make war upon Allah and His
messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be that they
will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet on alternate
sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land. Such will be their
degradation in the world, and in the Hereafter theirs will be an awful
doom;
SHAKIR: The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His
messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that
they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet
should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this
shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter
they shall have a grievous chastisement,

And even if they had tortured the camel keeper, is that the best one
can expect from muhammed. He will sink as low as the worst among
humans. He could not be satisfied with simply executing the muderers,
he had to torture them. Think about it. Think what is being taught
there. He is not going to set an example that torture is evil and one
should not torture while delivering justice, but the message is that
torture for torture is justice. Is that the mercy of Allah to all
mankind? Think, Titu, think. Please.

doubtless.

To FFI
September 27, 2006

So what do you have to say about these verses?

(Al quran 5:32)
" If anyone slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole of mankind; and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the whole of mankind."

(6:151)
" Take not a life, which god has made sacred, except by way of justice and law: thus does he command you, that you may learn wisdom."


To Titu:

005.032
YUSUFALI: On that account: We ordained for the Children of Israel that if any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people. Then although there came to them Our messengers with clear signs, yet, even after that, many of them continued to commit excesses in the land.
005.033
YUSUFALI: The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter;

It was ordained for the jews and it was jews who did not listen to allah. And the exception is "spreading mischeif in the land". What is that? That is if you do not agree with muhammed. That is if you really and honestly disagree with islam and you do not want to be a muslim, and you warn other people about it. If you do that then the quran clearly applies 5:33. No free speech against islam is clearly the rule of the quran. No intellectual honesty allowed. Allah is worse than the worst dictator, he does not brooke any criticism and any questioning. Question and you spread mischief and you are to be tortured.

Now why would Allah be suppressing free speech?
006.147
YUSUFALI: If they accuse thee of falsehood, say: "Your Lord is full of mercy all-embracing; but from people in guilt never will His wrath be turned back.
PICKTHAL: So if they give the lie to thee (Muhammad), say: Your Lord is a Lord of All-Embracing Mercy, and His wrath will never be withdrawn from guilty folk.
SHAKIR: But if they give you the lie, then say: Your Lord is the Lord of All-encompassing mercy; and His punishment cannot be averted from the guilty people.

The poor pagans were aware that muhammed was a liar and making things up and they were saying so. He had to address it. How dare anyone go against muhammed!!!

Then read 148, 149, and 150.
What was wrong with the arguments that the poor pagans were offering. Why does Allah need his dirty work to be done through the killing arms of Muhammed? Why does he create so many kaafirs? He is still doing it. There still are more kaafirs than muslims. Allah knows at the moment of creating a soul whether that sould will be a kaafir or not, whether that sould will associate a partner with Allah or not, whether that soul will reject muhammed or not. And he creates them anyway and then he promises to torture them for infinity!!! And then he wants witness to be brought forth. Why?

006.151
YUSUFALI: Say: "Come, I will rehearse what Allah hath (really) prohibited you from": Join not anything as equal with Him; be good to your parents; kill not your children on a plea of want;- We provide sustenance for you and for them;- come not nigh to shameful deeds. Whether open or secret; take not life, which Allah hath made sacred, except by way of justice and law: thus doth He command you, that ye may learn wisdom.

And this is to show the good of Allah? Can you name a single god of any religion of any pagans foolish attempt to give a partner to allah who said:
"do not be good to your parent, or take life that god has made sacred"? Can you please name a religion that orders that? But Islam is the only one where Allah say if you "join anything equal to Him" then you are going to be tortured for eternity and he in effect tortures the overwhelming majority of his creation!!. And what is the punishment for those alive who "spread mischeif", who say that there is someone that can be "joined to him", well you know that already.

doubtless.



To FFI:

September 28,2006

Carry on insulting Allah, You can have your say now but wait till your end is near and the angel of death comes to claim your soul, no regrets, no pardon, Just the taste of hellfire scorching your heart. You must think your brave because Allah is the most patient and has not punished you - yet. You see you will never succeed because muslims will never listen to an insulting liar who even has the nerve to criticise god's actions. Islam is a worldwide phenomenan, We are the next rulers of the earth and our civilization will RISE from the ashes like the pheonix. On another point define terrorism? Any one who opooses the government is a terrorist - end of. Your losing the battle, Don't you read the news? have you not seen the footage?, You misunderstand muslims and think you have all the answers. Do you think your manmade laws are superior? that you allow evil people to walk the streets because theres no room in prison? your governments make such a mess even your own people complain. The west has commited more terrorist acts than any nation and they go unpunished, what caused them to act so violently? Islam?. China has the highest rate of death penaltys than anywhere else, are they muslims? did islam teach them this? stop accusing Islam for your degenerative and disgusting way of life. Your government is full of money hungry fools. We were warned that stupid people will be put in power and bush just takes the biscuit, This man must be the stupidest person to ever enter politics. Look at your system and then tell me you have all the answers, Look at your history and your human abuses and neglect and tell me your flourishing. You recieved power by the sword, plundering and raping your way through the history books. Your way of life is meaningless and void of any spirituality, Your goal is imperilalism as its always been, You target Islam so people have there eyes in the wrong direction when they should look at there own governments stupendous failings. Islam will conquer every part of the globe, You judge other peoples way of life but as i said before and i will say it again

SORT YOUR OWN HOUSE OUT HYPOCRITE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

To Titu:
September 28, 2006

You are so terrified of your boogey man allah that you are unable to think or use reason. Typical symptoms of being under the influence of islam. Hypotcrite? So when are you leaving the lands of the kaafirs?

doubtless.


To FFI:
September 28, 2006

Apostacy: Death sentence

Blasphemy: Death sentence

Kufar: Cleansed from the face of the earth

Objective: Reclaim the earth including Spain, Restore the balance of power, Annihilate Allahs enemies, Bring justice to earth were the kafirs have failed. Re - unite all people under the banner of Islam.

Freedom of speech? insult Islam to a muslims face and he will knock your head clean off your shoulders, Hows that for freedom of speech?

Apostates are cowards, Why don't you go to muslim lands and fight like your ***** boy soldiers crying for mummy ( I've seen footage of the cowards crying like ***** babies, Your governments don't show that do they?). You see America loves pepsi, We love death. We are the bravest warriors the world has ever seen and soon when the holocaust against muslims begin, You will see what were truly capable of.


To Titu:

Yes,

You did not view the kaafir women and girls as humans in your earlier letters. Yes war is hell, and yes boys do cry for their mothers. And I have seen jihadi boys cry for their mothers too, and I feel for them just as much as I feel for the kaafir boys who were tortured before they were put to death. Crying and wanting to be comforted is part of being human. It is the Islam in you that tries and tries to wipe that humanity out and make you into something worse than a vicious beast. Yes, I am fully aware that a muslim will knock my head off if I spoke the truth about Islam, and not only will he knock my head off, he will torture me before hand as instructed by your evil satanic allah first. That is why the kaafir technology is so nice. I can talk to many muslims at the same and some listen and see the truth and some are left spluttering impotently like yourself. But the truth gets out. Titu, islam is dead. Man has gone beyond it. You just do not know it yet.

doubtless.

To FFI:
September 28, 2006

Firstly, watch bbc1 on sunday - Sex crimes and the vatican, will be interesting.

Secondly, your deluded to think anyone believes any of your compulsive lies, People take a balanced view by reading Islamic articles not just apostate material.

I know your angry because your pathetic arguments reach no one and you concocted your website of deceit to create another holocaust - Islam is stronger by the day and you know it, why else would you go out of your way to try (unsuccesfully) to turn people away?

Your website only has visitors who already hate Islam.

Tell your soldiers to go home to there families while they can, its taken a superpower 5 years fighting with peasants, What happened? can't even take on a bunch of peasants? Your lads are suffering, send them home before the real warriors show up and destroy there occupying ass.



To FFI
September 28, 2006

"History makes it clear that the legend of fanatical muslims sweeping and forcing islam over others is the most absurd myth"
De Lacy o' Leary

The first major holocaust of muslims took place on friday july 15th 1099 in Jeruslaem by crusaders. 70,000 muslims lost there lives why? because they were considered barbaric and without souls.

The propaganda spread by the crusaders are still echoed to this day, The mere idea of muslims being victims and not the aggressor has become inconcievable.

Crusaders killed more than half a million muslims during and after occupying jerusalem.
Ghengis Khan and his forces killed more than a million muslims during the occupation of Iraq and neighbouring areas.

Thousands of muslims were killed and forced to change there relegion by Spanish crusaders in South America.

More than 3million muslims were killed/ displaced by the European colonial powers during WW1 & WW2.

More than 6million muslims were killed/ displaced by tsars and communist government of Russia.

More than 1.5 million muslims killed in China, Cambodia, Vietnam and other far east countries.

More than 1million muslims killed in Burma and Kashmir since 1940

More than half a million muslims in Bosnia, Kosovo and Albania murdered during early 90's.

More than 5million muslims killed/ displaced in Palestine since 1948

5million muslims killed/ displaced by the Russian occupation of Afghanistan.

And now it's Afghanistan and Iraq with Lebanon being the most recent entry.

The good news is already a billion people strong - Islam is still the fastest growing relegion.

So think twice before you make hypocritical statements, We know our history better than you. Your the real barbarian, raping peodaphiles and your days are numbered and your soldiers are running for there lives the ***** cowards.


FFI to Titu:

You never quote the link from where you cut and paste. Why? You are still fighting the crusades? Why do you not try to find out why the crusades took place in the first place? What were the muslims doing before the crusades? I see muslims got into spain because they were invited? I see the muslims were invited into Persia, invited into Constantinople, invited into russia, invited into india, invited into central asia. Which mythical world do you live in?

doubtless.


To FFI
September 28, 2006

you never quote the link from where you cut and paste. Why? You are still fighting the crusades? Why do you not try to find out why the crusades took place in the first place?

The crusades was a terrorist movement.

What were the muslims doing before the crusades? I see muslims got into spain because they were invited? I see the muslims were invited into Persia, invited into Constantinople, invited into russia, invited into india, invited into central asia. Which mythical world do you live in?

Ask yourself the same question.