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Should Pakistan Exist?

Printer-friendly versionPrinter-friendly versionSend to friendSend to friendPDF versionPDF version Dr. Jack Wheeler is a leading conservative pro-western civilization intellectual. He runs the bog www.tothepointnews.com, and writes intelligent and to the point articles. The following is a brilliant solution to the Gordian Knot of Pakistan. http://www.tothepointnews.com/content/view/3618/2/ Written by Dr. Jack Wheeler Let's cut to the chase. The answer is no. Pakistan should never have existed in the first place. There is no reason for it to continue to exist now. The place to start here is with The Lunacy of a British Legacy from July 2006, which gives you the background on Pakistan's creation, and that of the Taliban. You could follow that up with Moslem Terrorist Drug Lords With Nukes from November 2007, which explains the Afghan heroin production as a joint operation between the Taliban and the ISI - the Pakistan military's InterServices Intelligence Agency - and how Afghan president Hamid Karzai and his family are in on the heroin take. Mr. Karzai met with Mr. Zero in the White House yesterday (5/06), along with the leader of Pakistan, Asif Ali Zardari. All three men privately despise each other, and publicly professed mutual admiration and support. Ostensibly, they were meeting because the Taliban are now destabilizing Pakistan as well as Afghanistan. You can be sure Zero did not insist on solving the heart of the Taliban problem, any more than did his predecessor. Mr. Bush refused to order Afghanistan's poppy fields be wiped out via high-altitude spraying of a micro-herbicide developed by DARPA. And so has Zero. The poppy-killing fungus will cause the entire Afghan poppy crop (which supplies 90% of the world's heroin) to disappear for decades - with no other crop being affected. Doing so would wipe out the Taliban and the ISI financially. But as it would also wipe out lots of powerful folks on the take in the Afghan and Pak governments, it will not be used, and the Taliban will expand its power until it takes over both governments. So let's talk about India instead. There are indications India is about to take matters into its own hands, with or without Washington's approval. This is particularly true since, as noted by former US ambassador to India Robert Blackwill in a speech in New Delhi this week (5/05), Zero is abandoning the efforts of George Bush to build a strong US-India relationship in favor of currying favor with China. Pakistan is a make-believe country. Take a look at this official map which the Pak government delineates its borders: First look at the area in the upper right labeled "Jammu & Kashmir." See that faint dotted line starting at the China border, goes across the area underneath Skardu and wraps around Srinigar? That's the real border: below it (Srinigar) is India, above it (Skardu) is Pak. The Skardu-Gilgit area is composed of ancient tribal peoples such as Baltits and Hunzukuts who just want to be left alone by the rest of the world, including Islamabad. The NWFP, or North West Frontier Province is Pushtun, the same tribe that populates 42% of Afghanistan, forming that country's largest ethnic group. That nice dark line between Afghanistan and the NWFP, which Islamabad pretends is its border, is an illusion. There is no border, the entire region on both sides of it are Pushtun, and Islamabad has never exercised any control over it. The pretend line continues, claiming to divide Afghanistan and Iran from the Pak province of Baluchistan, a huge region that takes up almost 45% of Pakistan yet contains only 10% of the country's population, mostly split between Pushtuns in the north and wild Baluchi nomads in the southern desert wastelands. The Pak government has never controlled the Baluchis any more than the Pushtuns. It's all Apache country over which it has little real sovereignty. So we come to the core of the country, Punjab and Sindh, and the unending hatred between Punjabis and Sindhis. First a famous story that I can't resist relating. India, including what is now Pakistan, was created by the imperial British, and when the region of Sindh was conquered by British General Sir Charles Napier in 1842, he sent a one-word message back to Delhi headquarters announcing his victory: peccavi. In those days, all British officers were classically educated, so they knew instantly what Napier was saying. Peccavi is Latin for "we sinned." Napier had Sindh. Sindh is a feudal region dominated by wealthy land-owning families (of which the Bhutto and Zardari families are among) who control the lives of 40 million poverty-stricken illiterate farmers. It also contains Pakistan's largest city (12m) and business center, Karachi, where the Mohajirs are concentrated, the Indian Moslems who fled to Pakistan during 1947 Partition and their descendents. The hatred is mutual between them and native Sindhis. While Sindhis are farmers ruled by a land-owning aristocracy and Mohajirs are business folk, Punjabis consider themselves warriors. Half the Pak population is Punjabi, some 80m. 90% of the Pak Army officer corps in Punjabi. Not only is the Punjabi Pak military so politically powerful that , as Alex Alexiev observes this week in The Real Problem in Pakistan, "Pakistan is not a sovereign state with a military, but a sovereign military with a state at its disposal to use as it sees fit." It is that the Punjabi Pak military is so economically powerful that it controls most business activity like a mafia. There is no way to untie this Gordian Knot of ethnic hatreds, fanatical stone-age Islamism, a heroin-smuggling mafia military, corruption at every level of society, feudal poverty, and an arsenal of nuclear weapons. The solution is to let India cut the Gordian Knot of Pakistan asunder. This is tricky. India has no desire to conquer and absorb Pakistan, which would double the number of Moslems within it (there are 160 million Moslems in each). It needs to rather break the place apart into pieces. The first object should be a quick in-and-out military operation to seize Pakistan's nukes. They are dispersed so it's complicated - and more so because there will be no help from the US military under Zero. So India will be smart about it and take advantage of the Pak military's greatest vulnerability: it's officers and key personnel are for sale, they can be bought. The Punjabis have always looked upon Afghanistan as theirs, and the Pushtuns as barbarian inferiors. (The disgust is returned. The greatest insult a Pushtun parent can give a misbehaving child is: "Stop that - you're behaving as a Punjabi.") Simultaneously, they are in constant fear of Pushtuns on either side of the border joining together to form an independent "Pushtunistan." Yet Pushtuns don't want their own political entity apart from Afghanistan. The solution is to move the border east, so that Afghanistan encompasses the NWFP and the Pushtun region of northern Baluchistan. This is not difficult to broker. The Pushtuns would jump at the chance to be unified, and it would deny the Taliban of the fig leaf of a Pak sanctuary. After India seizes the Pak nukes and engenders a period of chaotic destabilization, India has Kabul claim all of Pushtunistan and the Pushtuns declare for it. The US military, commanded by David Petraeus, is then free to nail the Taliban with no concern over violating "Pakistan sovereignty." During the same chaotic time, the Baluchis can get the independence from Islamabad they've fought decades for. The capital would be Quetta, and the Baluchis could make a go of it, as one of the world's largest gold and copper deposits is at Reko Diq in the west near Iran (it's being developed by the Australian mining giant BHP Billiton). Further, the Chinese have spent $2 billion developing the Baluchi port of Gwadar (spelled Gawadar on the map) with state-of-the-art import/export facilities. What would be left is a rump state of Sindh-Punjab plus the Gilgit-Skardu northern territory. If the Sindhis and Punjabis and Mohajirs can get along sufficiently, they could still have a single country however reduced in size and power - for the chaos should be used to shrink concomitantly the size and power of the Punjabi Pak military. Such a plan is being worked on right now at the South Block headquarters of the Indian Defense Ministry in New Delhi. The generals all realize now they have to act alone without America. It is the same situation that Israel is in regarding Iran. There is even some talk - for there is a great deal of communication between the Indian and Israeli militaries - of coordinating attacks, Israel upon Iran's nukes, Indian upon Pakistan's nukes, simultaneously. "Your president would be like a deer in the headlights if this occurred," says one US-educated Defense Ministry fellow I know. "He'd be paralyzed." Pakistan has become the world's most dangerous failed state. It needs to be disarmed and dismantled. Just like Iran. Working together and ignoring Zero, India and Israel may kill two nuclear birds with one cooperative stone.
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This can happen but it needs

This can happen but it needs a strong leadership in India, someone like Mr. Modi and not the Congress.
Even though Nixon did not like creation of Bangladesh, India did it, its time for another one whether Mr. Zero likes it or not...


My dear friend A-Comment,

My dear friend A-Comment, policies are hardly governed by democratically elected Goverments. Its the corridors which finnaly decide what to do. Yes its true that we need a strong leadership, but at the end of the day its the Babus in South Bloc who will take the call on Pakistan.
The only fear that I have is that of China stepping in. If China steps in then America steps in and then we have two possibilities, either the Chinese who know for their deceit and two faced self, retract and prevent a world war, or they stupidly decide to jump in.
The second senario is less probable because China does not wish to loose its properity which it has acumulated over all these years.


Dear Ibrahim If everything

Dear Ibrahim
If everything was decided by the "Babus" then India going nuclear in 1998 can be treated as mere coincidence of Mr. Vajpayee coming to power in that year.
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China watched in 71, will watch again when the time comes, remember it also faces a terrorism problem in its muslim dominated province.
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Pakistan was armed to the teeth by the US of A in 65 and 71, but India still prevailed with the Soviet era weapon, have some faith in the military of India. Chinese help to Pakistan will be of little use. All India needs is a political will
rgds


Ibrahim/a_comment Guys,

Ibrahim/a_comment

Guys, Chinese are very pragmatic people. They never fight someone else's war. The only exception in their history was their involvement in Korean war, which also happened because of ideology and at Soviet behest. At this time, they are a growing economic power and very independent, so would not openly participate in a war like this to draw flak from the world, also when they have their own problem of Xinjiang and Tibet (India is not arming Tibetans or letting them conduct political activities openly so far, which is a strong bargaining chip). At best, Chinese could provide arms to Pakistan, but that could be limited if Pustoons don't let it happen since supply lines pass through their territories. Chinese have invested heavily in Baluch port, and to make use of it they will have to make peace with Pushtoons.
If Pushtoons could be made to work against the Pakistan establishment, Pakistan endgame could be a reality. India may have weak leaders, but they have robust institutions, including bureaucracy and armed forces. That is what matters.


The problem Kam Baksh, will

The problem Kam Baksh, will all due respect to pashtoons is that they are extremely stupid and thick skulled. Logic, strategic interests are of no interests to them. All they want is that to smoke hash, have annal sex and kill people.
Without sounding to hrash, I would like to say that pashtoons are extremely backward people who generally depend on others to use brains for them.
Expecting pashtoons to stand up against Pakistan is like asking for a miracle.

Ofcourse if the greedy pashtoons are are shown some benifits in going with Afghanistan they might consider doing so. I have serious doubts about how many pashtoons really want to join Afghanistan. IN case Pashtoosn join Afghanistan, the change in the demographics will lead to an internal strife in Afghanistan, which will lead the Hazara, Turkomen and Tajiks to revolt and cause more problems in the region.

Futhermore, the NWPF areas have never been really ruled by the Kabul Shahs, for all puposes these areas were under the control of the local Khans and Nawabs. These khans are power hungry and greedy people, who would willingly sacrifice all their people if they feel their position is threated.

The best bet in Pakistan are the people of Baluchistan who are more nationalistic than religious. If Baluchistan were to break away from Pakistan, it would automaticaly lead to the downfall of Pakistan and that would be the end of the story for Napakistan


I was fascinated by Jack

I was fascinated by Jack Wheelers view and hope it succeeds.

My only problem with his strategy iss about drugspolicy. Because many humans abhor teenagers becoming drug-addicts there is drugs-prohibition. But that drives up the price of drugs a hundredfold. So in come the criminals, warlords, small drug-farmers. And the Taliban muscles itself into the trade, profiting also hugely. Whereas the warlords, small drug-farmers are really against America and NATO, who want to destroy their poppy fields, threathening their income, once they have won. They have a pivotal position in between and can bribe many, including government-people, influential people.

When legalization of drugs is adopted in the West, prices drop like a stone and THAT would deprive the Taliban of money and support by warlords and small drugsfarmers. I am aware of the extra costs in human suffering that legalization might bring (although it could be limited), but we must weigh the pros and contras now that our enemy so much profits from prohibition.


Intersting!

Intersting!


Breaking Pakistan will be

Breaking Pakistan will be only the first step... Remember Bangladesh was broken before and is now helping terrorist activities abroad (India in particular) through clandestine operations, funding and training them.

The same can be expected out of broken Pakistan as well.

I have heard of a myth where you cut a demon into pieces. Each piece in turn becomes individual demons and starts attacking everybody. This is the situation with all Islamic countries.

All of the world has to figure out the next strategy to completely kill this demon called Islam, otherwise it is like creating many smaller demons. This should be long term strategy of all Kaffir countries...


In Long-term-strategy I

In Long-term-strategy I disagree with Continuum1.

We know Islam is strong and has somehow strong appeal. Its leaders are very purposeful and committed. Their behavior is our wake-up-call. We should find out what it is that we consider better ideas than theirs and pursue them with much thinking, commitment and effort. Right now, I would say we aim for ever more democracy in the world, because in real democracies Islam gets no chance to dominate as it does in these Islamic Dictatorial states. Which by and large cannot provide prosperity and freedom to its people like most democracies can.

I like "them trying to stop us". I don't like "us trying to stop them".


#8: what the hell does that

#8: what the hell does that have to do with xxxx-all about whether Pakistan should exist or not? Besides, most of us (myself included) don't even live in the UK?


Excellent article.

Excellent article.


In Long-term-strategy I

In Long-term-strategy I disagree with Continuum1.

If you do not stop them, they are coming to get you, one way or other. Remember that is the Islamic goal.

So if any kafir country wants to solve this problem, there is no other way. Long term strategy can include anything from preventing Muslims entering Kafir countries to denial of citizenship, permanent residency etc. After all Islamic countries do the same to Kafirs. Economic sanctions, alternate energy sources, and any way that will dry up the coffers of Islamic nations. kafir nations in particular should NOT support Islamic nations with military technology of any kind. Complete isolation of Islamic nations and forcing them to relinquish shariah laws is the first them to his long term strategy. This requires all kafir nations to unite.


Yes, all right, that is their

Yes, all right, that is their Islamic goal, kafir nations should unite. Denial of citizenship, OK, but only after people promoting the goal of Islamic government instead of Democratic government.

I am with you on most, only let us be aware of how are ideas are better than theirs, lets practice these good ideas, target OUR goals, go on the offensive too. Say expanding the number of democracies in the world, in all sorts of peaceful ways, using much ingenuity. I see possibilities there, but we must know what we want and be committed to it.


Hi Continuum: Your

Hi Continuum:

Your suggestion would make sense, but a campaign on such a trans-national scale would presuppose a leader among the kafir nations co-ordinating the uniting in the first place, would it not? And if yes, who should the leader be? My position is that it is only natural that the US befits the lead role of what you propse as a world-wide holy war against Islam given the lack of alternatives in the current international system. I say only the US for the following reasons: Europe is in the process of restructuring its political backbone which for almost 2 decades now has suffered from the osteoperotic effects of cultural relativism; China is naturally an ally of Pakistan, seeing as how it needs Pakistan to prevent India from becoming its institutional counterweight within what it sees as its sphere of influence; Russia governing under the Communist dictatorship of Putin and Medvedev are at the moment sympathetic to China and, not surprisingly if you watch Russia Today's stance on Israel, is pro-Muslim); the Latin-American and Oceanic states are too weak and divided to have any signifiable effect on fighting Islam; Africa is in the midst of a civil war between the Muslim North Africa and non-Muslim South Africa.


Denial of citizenship, OK,

Denial of citizenship, OK, but only after people promoting the goal of Islamic government instead of Democratic government.

Demsci,

How do you propose a government or any individual to find out what the prospective Muslim citizen feels truly?

You do NOT seem to understand one thing. If Muslims become majority, they will enforce shariah laws. Take a look at Kashmir.

Muslims are NOT fools. They will act as though they are for democratic government. Taqiah is in their blood. This happened/happens in Kashmir. Muslims neighbours who were friends with Kashmiri pundits for 20 years simply refused to help their Hindu neighbors. They simply warned Hindus that if militants attack them they will not help them. This is another way of saying to kafirs get the hell out of here. We do not like you and do not want you to stay here.

This will happen in Europe and is happening in parts of Europe. It has already happened in Malaysia.

Our/your ideals should NOT blind you to such an extent that you are prepared to allow destruction of your own house. There is one flaw in democracy. Numbers...which can change anything given a chance. Muslims perfectly understand this and will impose shariah laws when time is correct.

The only solution in this case is prevent citizenship of Muslims altogether. Use them for any service, but never award citizenship until they give up Islam altogether. Only this will save infidels in long run.


Anti-Jihad, I agree with

Anti-Jihad,

I agree with you. Only US has the potential. Europe, Australia, India, Israel must unite against this common enemy. Russia and China will be used by Islamists and vice-versa. Communism has something intrinsic that unites them with Islamists.


Hello JAH #8 What you are

Hello JAH
#8

What you are inviting us to is a pure show. We know how Muslims play with words and try to pull wool over the eyes of their audiences. I have questions that I would like to pose but in writing and I would like my responses in writing. Can you arrange such a debate with a few top scholars of Islam?

And here is the carrot. If any scholar can answer my questions logically I will convert this site into an Islamic site and will donate $50,000 dollars to that scholar and another $50,000 dollars to the person who arranges that debate so they can spend it for the charity of their choice. They can buy bombs, ammunitions, or pay to the families of suicide bombers - any Islamic charity.

What do you say?


Ali Sina Do you know that

Ali Sina

Do you know that our dear, Jah or Haj, is extremely well versed in Taqiyya. Man, I was really ignorant of this term till the time I happened to read your articles.
If one picks up any so called interfaith debate in which Muslims invite people of other faiths or no faith at all, we get to see the same thing. Lies Lies and more lies, Propaganda propaganda and more propganda.

I was watching the video of a Hindu Guru called Sri Sri ravishakar, in which he was telling how Zakir naik the oalf, was bhaving while he invited him to an interfaith conference. However Zakir Naik is not the only one to do so, you can pick up videos of any of the Muslim appologetics. Israra Ahmed, Shabeer Aly, any one of them and to any thinking person they will appear as people who are really big time liars. These Islamic propagandists are least to say in cahoots with the Devil (metamorphically).
Muslims will conjure fairy tales and lies about Islam like no other can. It seems that they have even beaten the Missionaries working in South and South East Asia at their own game.


Yeah, Continuum1, living

Yeah, Continuum1, living among family, colleagues, friendly Muslims that are (or seem) all unaware of any danger, I might indeed be naive. I should look at what happened in Kashmir.

I am with you on what you say a lot, but I want us also having our own ideals. The enemy seems to have the advantage of being purposefull, what with their Holy Book, their beloved Prophet and their "God-given" tasks. And many of them are so committed. The Christians may have won over the Pagans in the 4th century because the most purposeful and committed often seem to win.

So what I am saying is; let us also formulate our own purposes, let us also become very committed. I see the 5 pillars of Democracy + the Human rights + the Golden Rule as our values, to be highly committed to, to unite for. Why not aiming to spread them all over the Islamic world in the long run?

Is that imperialistic? But it is only in honest competition with their threat and we should aim for freedom of religion and more prosperity overall. Aiming to eradicate their religion could make them desperate, but this could be acceptable, even secretly endorsed, by the Muslims-in-name-only.

We have the trumpcards, or soft power, of: Being economically more successfull, being freeer, giving women better opportunities. Let us use them, now that free speech goes more and more global.

Don't forget about the achilles-heel of Islam. What do many women prefer secretly? I read that many Arab-Israeli women prefer Israel over an Islamic state. They apparently appreciate the difference.


This naivete of kafirs is

This naivete of kafirs is going to cost. As long as one is following Islam, he cannot be trusted.

Your arguments are quite weak and suicidal. It is like the argument against capital punishment of murderers, "If we kill murderers with capital punishment then what is the difference between us and the murderer".


Hi Continuum @ your post

Hi Continuum

@ your post #17: So we both agree that the US should naturally co-ordinate the role against the world-wide war against Islam. But it is interesting you should say this given how in the past you have pointed to the hypocrisy of US foreign policy in the past with regards to supporting the Taliban in their war against the Soviets in 1989, their support for Saddam Hussein during the Iran-Iraq War, their self-serving purposes for entering WWII. I guess my question would then be: how can the US assume the burdens of civilization of fighting Islam when it does not even command the moral high-ground?


C1, many people in Holland

C1, many people in Holland are still saying not to disrespect Muslims, that their religion is not to blame, that we are "Islamophobic". Maybe they are the "suicidals". But also let us consider how naïve Muslims can be. Their countries are no match to the Kafir countries economically. Iran is in big trouble with economy and dissatisfaction of people, millions of unemployed, drug addicts.

There is Ali Sistani, ayatollah in Iraq, who, seemingly, is opposed to clerics taking power, seeing next door what a mess the ayatollahs in Iran made. In Iran apostacy to Atheism, Christianity, Zoroastrism is reportadly huge. But in democratic Turkey Islam thrives.

I remember many of us in Western Europe fearing the Soviet Union + the East Bloc. But now practically the whole East Bloc is democratic, even in the EU. I don't want ever more to be just defensive, just afraid. No, Reagan also went on counter-attack.

About a citizen-contract, due to Taqqiya it is indeed very hard to see if Muslims do not deceive us, but could we say: Islam cannot coexist with democracy, so in this land no Islamic citizens.

Or maybe just; You sign for loyalty to the 5 pillars of Democracy and that you prefer them unequivocally over any dictatorial system whatsoever. Any time you support democracy's enemies, in sermons, speeches, even in demonstrations, you violate that contract, which is ground for expulsion. For any new immigrants. Mind you, even this is already politically inconceivable right now in Holland.


how can the US assume the

how can the US assume the burdens of civilization of fighting Islam when it does not even command the moral high-ground?

In that case US has to improve on this issue of moral high ground to lead. I said only US has the potential because of its advanced technology and its ability to manipulate the world. Other countries do not even stand a chance.


#25: In that case US has to

#25:

In that case US has to improve on this issue of moral high ground to lead.

Yes and I am sure it will, but in the meantime how-abouts can you envision it doing this when its detractors will so readily point to its history of "invasions" and "forced-regime changes" and say, "Ah yes, you say you want to destroy Islam out of good faith, yet your history of destroying other countries in Latin American and the middle East out of self-interest speaks otherwise of your snake-tongued hypocrisy. So why should we not believe that the US wanting to destroy Islam is not doing it out of self-interest?'

"I said only US has the potential because of its advanced technology and its ability to manipulate the world. Other countries do not even stand a chance."

So then now manipulation is a key element of destroying Islam? But is not manipulation morally wrong? I know by asking you these questions I come off as a Muslim posing to be an American, but I'm not as I'm just trying to take the devil's side here and ask you the same questions and use the same logic that I am sure will be the common run of Muslims.


May God Bless Pakistan and

May God Bless Pakistan and the PPl of Pakistan...
coz there are many Moslims who really hate talbanizations..thy really dont want Sharia Law..although its against islam..but i think every body is free to live...either in veil r widout veil....and not only so called moderate muslims...there are many Hindu,Sikh and Christians are living as wel...
whome girls are getting raped inFront of There families...and moslims are forcing thm to convert...few days back..they Gang raped a Christians of jst 9years....and killed her...this is the truth of islam...this is wat muslims are allowed to do...i dont know wat he shit Eourpian countries are doing...why they are not shutting there doers to thm...and let thm live in there islamic countries...y they are developing thm..and y they are helping thm..y they are funding thm...it is the fault of of Christians who first support thm and nw facing...actully whn ever you do good to thm..one day thy will kill you..coz its in there blood..and if one thing is in ur Blood....u cant take it out...


Mr. Jack Wheeler lost his

Mr. Jack Wheeler lost his credibility when he called President Barrack Obama Zero. I fail to understand what Obama has to do with the creation of Pakistan. He was not even born at the time of division of India. Jack Wheeler and his ilk are going to destroy Faithfreedom with their non-sense.

What about George Bush who has been cultivating the most intolerant Muslim state, namely Saudi Arabia? It is George Bush who is responsible for a big mess in Afghanistan. George Bush had absolutley no intention of fighting terrorism in Afghanistan, that's why he invented phony WMD's to invade Iraq.

Do you know why? (1) He and his pal Dick Cheney wanted to take control of Iraqi oil, not for the benefit of the US but for the benefit of their oil business and (2) Bush family and Dick Cheney have incestuous type relationship with Saudi royals and big Saudi businessmen including bin Ladens. May be that's why they let Osama bin Laden take shelter in Pakistan?


Yes and I am sure it will,

Yes and I am sure it will, but in the meantime how-abouts can you envision it doing this when its detractors will so readily point to its history of “invasions” and “forced-regime changes” and say, “Ah yes, you say you want to destroy Islam out of good faith, yet your history of destroying other countries in Latin American and the middle East out of self-interest speaks otherwise of your snake-tongued hypocrisy. So why should we not believe that the US wanting to destroy Islam is not doing it out of self-interest?’

Ofcourse they will speak... Is it NOT truth? America is that case has to work more to convince others of their good will. They will need to look at different strategies here. Interdependence of Kafir countries through trade, miltary agreements, technology transfers, special concessions for industries in dependent countries etc. can increase mutual trust and co-operation. This is NOT about simple exchange of words between leaders. It is a long term strategy.

So then now manipulation is a key element of destroying Islam? But is not manipulation morally wrong? I know by asking you these questions I come off as a Muslim posing to be an American, but I’m not as I’m just trying to take the devil’s side here and ask you the same questions and use the same logic that I am sure will be the common run of Muslims.

I do not think manipulation by itself is bad. When selfish motives of power and wealth are involved then manipulation is morally wrong.

The same being used for the overall good of humanity is good. Either Islam is destroyed or humanity will be destroyed.


[...] Should Pakistan Exist?

[...] Should Pakistan Exist? – Dr. Jack Wheeler Dr. Jack Wheeler is a leading conservative pro-western civilization intellectual. He runs the blog www.tothepointnews.com, and writes intelligent and to the point articles. The following is a brilliant solution to the Gordian Knot of Pakistan. [...]