Saudi Arabia Allowing 8 Year Old Girls to Marry Old Men
Submitted by Lee Jay Walker on Thu, 04/16/2009 - 04:14
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Saudi Arabia allowing 8 Year old girls to marry old men
In the nation of Saudi Arabia the despotic feudal system remains and the rights of girls, women, non-Muslims, Shia Muslims, and others, are violated by the Sunni Islamic justice system. Despite this, major nations still desire to trade with Saudi Arabia and the oil factor and geopolitical issue, appears to override human rights. So when will Saudi Arabia be challenged by the international community?
Before focusing on deeper political issues it is important to mention that laws in Saudi Arabia are based on Sharia Islamic Law and the Hadiths. Therefore, we are not talking about people on the margins of society who have no power, but who support child marriage; on the contrary, we are talking about major political leaders and Sunni Muslim religious leaders who support child marriage.
Therefore, the kingdom's Grand Mufti, Sheikh Abdul Aziz al-Sheikh, supports child marriage and to him, and other Sunni Islamic leaders, they will site the life of Mohammed, who also married a child. Given this, Sheikh Abdul Aziz al-Sheikh supports young girls as young as ten years of age to get married to elderly men. He stated that "It is incorrect to say that it's not permitted to marry off girls who are 15 and younger."
The Grand Mufti, of course, will look to Islamic scripture and focus on the Hadiths and then regulate this within Islamic Sharia Law. So he further added that "A girl aged 10 or 12 can be married. Those who think she's too young are wrong and they are being unfair to her." While only last month, a Saudi Arabian judge justified the right of an 8-year-old girl to be married to a 47-year-old man. The judge, Sheikh Habib Abdallah al-Habib, refused to annul the marriage after the mother signed a petition against the marriage of her young daughter.
This problem does not only apply to Saudi Arabia because violations like this can be found in many other societies, however, the political ties between major nations and Saudi Arabia is a reality. Also, in other poorer societies the rule of law may either be weak or centralization via the state may not be enforceable. However, in Saudi Arabia, we are talking about the judicial system, leading Sunni Islamic clerics, and of course the government is turning a blind eye to this serious issue.
Today, in Saudi Arabia, and other nations like Yemen, you are seeing grass-roots organizations rising up to challenge the conservative status quo. So some moderate Sunni Muslim clerics are speaking out and the media is also highlighting these cases in order to challenge the system. Therefore, some changes are happening and these brave individuals, organizations, and clerics, need international support.
Wajeha al-Huwaider also spoke out against the violation of human rights in Saudi Arabia. Wajeha al-Huwaider stated that it is essential to stand up against people who want to "keep us backward and in the dark ages." This brave individual is the co-founder of the Society of Defending Women's Rights in Saudi Arabia. Organizations like this need greater global media coverage and the same applies to economic and political support.
Change of course must come from within but outside nations, institutions, and individuals, must play their part because issues like this must not be held to ransom by any one nation or religious faith. Issues like slavery, religious persecution, child marriages, and other global issues, must come under a global charter.
Of course, it is clear that nations and societies are at different development stages but issues like child marriage and slavery can not be ignored. So nations have a collective responsibility to defend people who are not protected by national laws. This does not imply that direct confrontation is the way, but economic, political, and other pressures must be enforced and the same applies to isolation within international institutions.
If America and the European Union, and other major democracies, are concerned about human rights and social justice, then they must stand up to the ruling elites in Saudi Arabia. After all, conversion from Islam to Christianity is punishable by death in Saudi Arabia and not one Buddhist temple or Christian church is allowed in this nation.
When we add religious persecution to child marriage, alongside the persecution of women, then clearly this nation needs to be challenged. The democratic world "must not sell its soul for oil and geopolitics."After all, the global community ignored the role of Saudi Arabia with regards to global terrorism, and September 11 was the ultimate consequence of this, for the majority of attackers were Saudi nationals. Therefore, violations of human rights will come back to haunt other societies if they keep on turning a blind eye and the issue of child marriage is very serious.
Lee Jay Walker
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Strangely but not
Strangely but not surprisingly it's the great satan( US of A) which is bending over backwards to sodi barbarians.The bloody sodi bastards have been violating the rights of every conceivable creatures and the bonking US of A was not even bothered.They kept telling India off.When the moslem scum bags have come home to roost, US is waking up.MAshallah islam will rule the world.Inshallah the islam will prevail and the statue of liberty will be veiled. this is not a veiled threat.This is an open challenge
Oh, my God, I think I'm going
Oh, my God, I think I'm going to be sick! Although I am not surprised, it is still utterly disgusting that these men get off on children who haven't even hit puberty yet!
While our president is bending over to practically kiss this guy's (king)'s butt! I wonder how aware he is of this issue.
I have heard some Arabs say they do not approve of their women marrying Saudi men for many of these disgusting purposes....multiple wives, child marriage, etc....and they were Muslims.....!
It is wrong to forbid her (the 8-year-old) to marry cuz it is unfair to her? Um, yeah...he's right...it is certainly unfair to her....it is unfair
1. That she is robbed of her innocence.
2. That she is forced to marry a man old enough to be her grandfather
3. that she doesn't live a normal playful innocent life like most of her 8-year-old sisters around the world...
4. that she act as a woman before her time and is scolded, beaten and humiliated should she make a mistake and/or act unaccordingly....
5. That she is expected to understand sex (rape really) marriage.
6. That her mind has been brought to an earthly life of distraction at such a fragile age! Talk about Psychological damage!!
You sick disgusting Saudi Muslim bastards.....you will be judged oneday....rest assure!
yesterday in bangalore a 10
yesterday in bangalore a 10 yr old girl was raped by her muslim neighbour(Jaffar) . in the past few days i have read about many such sameful crimes commited by muslims.in kerela , some ten days back, a minor was raped by a muslim.
In a mad race to emulate their prophet they have given up all their virtues which the humans learned over thousands of years of evolution. they kill innocent people in the name of jihad, they practice incest, they rape minors, they kill their daughters and mothers , they stone them......
i read an article on Daniel Pipes website where it was reported that these rich arabs come hyderabad and marry virgins and next day talak , talak, talak........
In islam, women are treated like an object for sex
hey dont blame this....jst
hey
dont blame this....jst look at the picture..either they are right r wrong but they are stick to there religion and belife...
either its good r bad...bu they follow it....
even i've one muslim female frnd and she said me its ok if husband beat his wife coz its according to QURAN...look...thy are so fair...bt look at ur own self..i too look at me..what we are doing..we shoulf practice our Religion and thn thy ppl will come to kow the reality..we jst say ab8 human right and bla bla...we should Practice our religion and thn they come to know the real meaning of LOve.....care and respect...
God Bless u all
Dear Sumanyu thts true...but
Dear Sumanyu
thts true...but wat we can do dear...
the only way tht we should practice wat they are doing...wat we can do...our leader are not able to beat thm.....
So what's new about sodi
So what's new about sodi barbarian marrying an eight year old girl?That has been shown to the scum bags by the pedophile prophet rapist maha loud ah mohammad and pimp allah.
The sodi barbarians have been at it(screwing children business) for so many years,There are hordes of muslimahs available in hyderabad in india for them to use and throw.Then after use these muslimahs end up in Mumbai grant road.Such is this moslem filth, its plain horrifying.
The moslem apologists who keep posting here are perhaps hiding now in the burkhas.they can neither condemn these sunnahs of their pedophileprophet, nor can they praise,Secretely every moslem male entertains the idea of sleeping with a child.Be carefulSee a skull cap stay away.keep the children( boys and girls) away from these monsters.kafirs need to be extremely careful.Both men and women.Kafir women can get raped and men can get killed by these mindless zombies.
Poma are you sick or a living
Poma are you sick or a living dead man.
Allah said men can beat women all 4 of them and his muta or misyar wives. Slaves girls can be sexed as that is not fornication, but a holy act approved by allah, so is pedophilia by Muslim men.
As a Muslim you must approve of it because you cannot say its wrong because Prophet Mo said so and he did it and you are suppose to follow his wise sex acts.(smile) Any man who touches my girls will have ME to reckon with and I dont care which god said so. Allah didnt have kids remember in Islam. I am a child of God and he said I can protect myself and take care of my family. If a Mooslim thinks he has am Islamic right to rape my girls then I have an unholy right to cut your holy penis off as fast as I can cut.
Man, protext your girls and boys as pedestry is holy in Islam. Allah has 28 white boys who do not bleed forever, so when you get tired of the 72 big breasted white eternal virgins, 180 feet tall, he can change up. allah said gay men are forgiven Sura 4:15,16, gay women are to die. Greek mythology is also a part of Islam, with Mo riding a half woman and half horse named Burqah. He hated women. He said women are on the level as a dog, animals, to be used for sex and cleaning and cooking. DO UNTO MUSLIMS AS MUSLIMS ARE TOLD TO DO TO US INFIDEL 1:1
Many people and some of their
Many people and some of their leaders blame muslims and Islam for terrorism and unholy acts such as child marriage. The leaders turn a blind eye to these problems and the people are indifferent to this matter because they don't compel their leaders to do something about it.
For instance in India, the so called secular govt is subsidisisng madrasa education, hajj travel etc. knowing well that madrassas are breeding ground for jihadis. The terror manual Quran influences young minds; even though they don't grasp the real meaning when young, when they grow up as men they fully understand what they learned in madrassas and start acting accordingly. What is the logic behind teaching terror manual to children and expect them to beheave as responsible citizens when they grow up! The educated people beheave as responsible citizens because of the secular education they received when young. So the need of the hour is STOP MADRASSA EDUCATION; CLOSE MADRASSAS AND GIVE CHILDREN THERE SECULAR EDUCATION as children of other religions get in normal schools. Unless and until this is done no amount of exhortations or pontification will stop muslims from following the pedophile prophet.
Kalaan the Indian govt is
Kalaan
the Indian govt is full of shit especially the Congress party and its allies. If they could they would sell half of India to Rome and the other half to pakistan and Saudi Arabia
This shows the Pedophilia is
This shows the Pedophilia is officially sanctioned by Islam, no "if"s about it. Yet, you can still find idiots, for lack of a better word, who still want to debate and say this is not pedophilia. Some time ago, we had a guy Sadiq/Donald Morgan who "debated"(I can hardly call it a debate.Mr. Sadiq is no pundit, thats for sure) and tried to show that Islam has nothing called "Pedophilia". I bet Mr. Morgan is still wasting his time, and showing his Ass to Allah five times a day.
And, you are right FreeSpirit. If this is not rape, I do not know what is.
Peace to all, especially useful idiots who call themselves Muslims. Calling someone a Muslim is no more than a grave insult to that person indeed.
dear Raisin Head dear first
dear Raisin Head
dear first of all i'm not Muslim...dont abuse me calling muslim...so clear...next u take me wrong...i meant tht after doing all this shit thy seem thy are right and this is the way of ALLAH...
so sorry if u didnt understand me...
#10 Please forgive me, my
#10 Please forgive me, my bad!
I am so glad to know you are sane!
MUST-APES are made to follow
MUST-APES are made to follow the paedophile profit$$$ Pervert MonkeyMAD!
This is nothing new. Marrying
This is nothing new. Marrying little babies is ok in Islam.
#14 How can those old men sex
#14 How can those old men sex a baby? They are truly disrespectful and sick. How can any man sex a kid. They need a labodomy a total wax job. Clean it out totaly. A new brain implant. they are robotic anyway, so it wont matter. Wafa Sultan laid the man out. He couldn get to her but he was panting. If he could have beat her he would have. If he and I debated he would probably get up and leave after I get through with him. I have debated many black Muslims and they just walk away.
Marie and Raisinhead, Like I
Marie and Raisinhead,
Like I stated in another article.....let Madea deal with these sick bastards.....one at a time! They'd be sorry they couldn't keep it in their pants!
Muslim men.....use your privates on someone your own size!
if u do go sex u r good
if u do go sex u r good muslim...
if u think ab8 sex five times a day...Good muslim
if u sex five timesa day good muslim..
sex is the real life
widout sex no one is muslim
if dead wid out sex u r not on the way of Allah..coz it was Propets sunna...so u've to fulfil suna...
suna is suna..and if u point on sunna i'll kill you...
this is islam....a great religion of Peace...
#17, Good sarcasm! :) And
#17,
Good sarcasm! :) And you are right....the better the muslim, the greater the enemy!
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LE GENOCIDE VOILÉ
Parution : Janvier 2008 - Gallimard
LA TRAITE NEGRIÉRE ARABO-MUSULMANE du VIIème au XX ème siècle
La traite négrière pratiquée par les nations occidentales est connue de tous. Cependant, historiquement ce crime contre l’humanité est une invention du monde arabo-musulman. Ce sont les Arabes, Berbères, Turcs, Persans entre autres, qui sont à l’origine de cette infamie et l’ont pratiquée en grand. Bien avant l’arrivée des Européens les Arabo-musulmans ont razzié les peuples noirs du VIIème au XVIème siècle, pendant près de mille ans, avant de continuer du XIXème au XXème siècle, longtemps après les abolitions occidentales. Aussi, la stagnation démographique, les misères, la pauvreté et les retards de développement actuels du continent noir, ne sont pas le seul fait des conséquences du commerce triangulaire, comme bien des personnes se l’imaginent, loin de là ! De nombreux auteurs ont cependant donné dans une approche militante de l’histoire, en restreignant leur champ de prospection à la seule traite atlantique générée par les Européens. Ceci au nom d’une certaine solidarité religieuse, que nous qualifions de « syndrome de Stockholm africain. »
Pourtant il suffit d’observer la dynamique diaspora noire - descendante des 9 millions de déportés africains -, qui s’est formée dans le Nouveau Monde pour reconnaître, que la destruction programmée des peuples noirs au sens d’un génocide n’y est pas prouvée. Alors que la déportation des Africains en terres d’Islam, est comparable à un génocide, une véritable entreprise programmée comme une sorte « d’extinction ethnique par castration. » La plupart des 17 millions d’Africains importés dans le monde arabo-musulman et transformés en eunuques, ont presque tous disparu. Aussi, le souhait ici est d’informer sur l’antériorité et la dimension de la traite transsaharienne et orientale. La raison historique - qui n’est pas affaire de croyances -, se doit de rendre compte des faits, rien que des faits même les plus inouïs. Car aucune amnésie sélective ne réussira indéfiniment à voiler une vérité historique.
LE GENOCIDE VOILÉ
Parution : Janvier 2008 - Gallimard
LA TRAITE NEGRIÉRE ARABO-MUSULMANE du VIIème au XX ème siècle
La traite négrière pratiquée par les nations occidentales est connue de tous. Cependant, historiquement ce crime contre l’humanité est une invention du monde arabo-musulman. Ce sont les Arabes, Berbères, Turcs, Persans entre autres, qui sont à l’origine de cette infamie et l’ont pratiquée en grand. Bien avant l’arrivée des Européens les Arabo-musulmans ont razzié les peuples noirs du VIIème au XVIème siècle, pendant près de mille ans, avant de continuer du XIXème au XXème siècle, longtemps après les abolitions occidentales. Aussi, la stagnation démographique, les misères, la pauvreté et les retards de développement actuels du continent noir, ne sont pas le seul fait des conséquences du commerce triangulaire, comme bien des personnes se l’imaginent, loin de là ! De nombreux auteurs ont cependant donné dans une approche militante de l’histoire, en restreignant leur champ de prospection à la seule traite atlantique générée par les Européens. Ceci au nom d’une certaine solidarité religieuse, que nous qualifions de « syndrome de Stockholm africain. »
Pourtant il suffit d’observer la dynamique diaspora noire - descendante des 9 millions de déportés africains -, qui s’est formée dans le Nouveau Monde pour reconnaître, que la destruction programmée des peuples noirs au sens d’un génocide n’y est pas prouvée. Alors que la déportation des Africains en terres d’Islam, est comparable à un génocide, une véritable entreprise programmée comme une sorte « d’extinction ethnique par castration. » La plupart des 17 millions d’Africains importés dans le monde arabo-musulman et transformés en eunuques, ont presque tous disparu. Aussi, le souhait ici est d’informer sur l’antériorité et la dimension de la traite transsaharienne et orientale. La raison historique - qui n’est pas affaire de croyances -, se doit de rendre compte des faits, rien que des faits même les plus inouïs. Car aucune amnésie sélective ne réussira indéfiniment à voiler une vérité historique.
De islam is de islam, de islam van Abol Qasim Muhammad ibn Abdallah (circa 570-632). Er was niets gematigd aan deze meneer (een rover, massamoordenaar, slavenhaler, pedofiel). Zijn leer is te vinden in vele moslem boeken, waarin opgeroepen wordt tot oorlogvoeren, onderwerpen enz. De gematigde islam bestaat daarom niet, wel gematigde moslems, lieden die het niet zo nauw nemen met de letter van de (sharia)wet.
Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Book 62:
Volume 7, Book 62, Number 64:
Narrated 'Aisha:
that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).
Volume 7, Book 62, Number 65:
Narrated 'Aisha:
that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: I have been informed that 'Aisha remained with the Prophet for nine years (i.e. till his death)." what you know of the Quran (by heart)'
@ 15 Pim den Dool.
"Je kunt ook zeggen dat zij een gematigde variant van de islam aanhangen".
Waar kan ik de gematigde variant van "de religie van de vrede" vinden? Ik heb ze niet in de Qur'an gevonden, noch in de Sira of de sahih hadiths (Bukhari, Muslim, Malik's Muwatta. Ben nu bezig met de Tafsir al Jalalayn. Daar zal ik ongetwijfeld eengematigde variant vinden, vol vrede en liefde.
Hoort Spong niet bij die bevolkingsgroep die na het instellen van de sharia als eersten van de hoge daken naar beneden gelazerd zullen worden?
@ 19 Arab female: "the father is more sickening than the so-called groom...this is inhumane and beyond Islam..." You're right Arab female. Abdallah ibn Uthman Abu Qahafa (Aisha's father) was more sickening than the so-called groom...
You're right ma'am. These practices are infuriating and disgusting. I too abhor these practices. In the west where I live people go to jail if they commit this crime. You said: "Islam is not like that." Why not ma'am.
How about the hadiths of sahih Bukhari:
"Volume 7, Book 62, Number 64:
Narrated 'Aisha:
that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).
Volume 7, Book 62, Number 65:
Narrated 'Aisha:
that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: I have been informed that 'Aisha remained with the Prophet for nine years (i.e. till his death)." what you know of the Quran (by heart)'
I hope that I do not insult you by quoting from sahih Bukhari. If I hurt your feelings I apologize.
I did open my eyes. I take the trouble to read the Qur'an the Sira, sahih Bukhari, sahih Muslim, Malik's Muwatta, Tabari, The reliance of the Traveller (Umdat al Salik). I plan to read Tafsir al Jalalayn. I have to admit that I read all these Writings in English translations.
The al Arabiya News Channel has the same item dated Sunday the 12 of April.
One lady calling herself Arab female wrote this line: "I cannot believe to this day we hear such stories...but unfortunately this is happening...the father is more sickening than the so-called groom...this is inhumane and beyond Islam... where is the Government and the law? This child will be marred with this psychological impact ...like a caged animal with no say and no one to run to for support....its appalling but taking place in the 21st century"
I told her that I agree with her. Once upon a time in the seventh century ad a father sold his six-year-old child to his religious leader. This father’s name was Abdallah ibn Uthman Abu Qahafa, aka abu Bakr.
This was her answer: “Alf Janszoon Unfortunately people like you would want to justify these acts!! Would that be your answer if you had an 8-year-old girl? Islam is not like that at all! The religion is being spread already in so many continents, and this is not what Allah has advised us to do and treat children... please open your eyes.”
This lady is in total denial concerning the truth about her religion.
My reply to her quoting Bukhari "Volume 7, Book 62, Number 64 and 65: was banned. This is typical of Muslim sites. If you begin to quote from their scriptures they become very uncomfortable and close their eyes.
I apologize for my mistake in
I apologize for my mistake in sending to much text. First time on this site. Sorry.
#20 Ayatollah Khomeni said
#20 Ayatollah Khomeni said inhis book The Little Green Book in 1990 that Muslims can sex a 2 month old baby, animals who after sex sell it to another village, and smoke weed but dont drink wine. Read it in Urdu or Arabic. It is sickening. Muhammad wanted Aisha when she was a baby in blankets. He thighed her from age 6-9 at 9 he actually had sex with her. In Islam it is renamed and made holy. Like Mo had sex with a slave girl of his wife Sawda, and Allah sent a vision and made it legal for Muhammad (Smile) Even Aisha said Allah was quick to please Muhammad. A medical doctor told me that Allah performed a miracle when Mo put his penis in Aisha. Wow. Was Mo impotent after 20 young wives and no children. The one he had was by a slave girl, a child who died. It is said that the child was that of a slave boy. MO WAS IMPOTENT. HE DREAMED OF SCREWING HIS WIVES, AISHA SAID HE WAS WITH HER WHEN HE WENT TO SEE ALLAH IN PARADISE ON A HORSE WITH A WOMAN'S HEAD FROM GREEK MYTHOLOGY.
Those guys are not human
Those guys are not human beings..........Playing with the life of small girls all time and saying their religion is PEACE. ...........? the HELL.....
i want international marry
i want international marry