Rifqa Bary Updates and the Lies of a CAIR member
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Check out this exchange between extremist Muslim and honorary CAIR member Mohammad Lutfi and Allan Kornman of Act for America. Listen to the first accusation out of Lufti's mouth.
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I am really worried about
I am really worried about that baby. They will kill her. They are determined to kill her.
If Rifqa is sent back to her
If Rifqa is sent back to her parents and ends up vanishing, God damn ANYONE who had a hand in helping make that happen. And God damn every Muslim who cheers it on.
And while we're at it, God damn Islam.
HER FATHER LIED. MUSLIMS ARE
HER FATHER LIED. MUSLIMS ARE NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE CHRISTIAN FRIENDS. SURA 5:60. WHEN THEY SAY THIS IT IS TAKKIA.
I think thanks to media
I think thanks to media publicity, she will not be harmed. Instead of following muhammed's crude way of dealing with apostates, they will try to brainwash her using other strategem like relatives will come and convince her about false goodness of islam . She will not be harmed physically in US, but lot of mental pressure will be put onto her. Even that is also not done , then they will play taqiya and marry her of to some muslim , who will 'TAKE care of her'. Also she may be taken to Sri Lanka and will get 're-education In Islam' in some mosque like communist gulag or communist education camp. Instead of sending her to her parents, she should be placed under some foster care centre.
People still dont have knowledge about Islam. Its a most violant and dangerous cult, where satan worshiping of allah is more important than human relationships like parent-child, husband-wife.
Only way she can be safe is that , her parents do some research in Islam and leave this dangerous cult.
We non-muslims have a duty to protect these apostates of Islam as they are the seeds of hope through which the fire of islam can be extinguished.
Her father has sold her
Her father has sold her business and they may go to Sir Lanka taking the girl with them. No one can stop them.
I'm really worried about
I'm really worried about Rifqa too.
I doubt if her father will
I doubt if her father will kill her. The real danger is from other fanatical Muslims who will no doubt want her killed.
'Proselytize' is the evil of
'Proselytize' is the evil of all problem!!! Just like when u break up a relation u dont go with anybody immediately.. like that gal should have taken some time.... to find a religion or god of her preference. This kind of proselytizing ppl would sure to create enmity among religons.
the law says that she is
the law says that she is still teenager they have no right to take her away from her parents house,when she gets 18 years old then she can go wherever she wants.
And listen to that damn reporter ( we speak for her ,we speak for her ) oh really you speak for her or you speak against her ??? how is that?
If she was your daughter you would raise hell why all this double stander ?
The guy who is hiding her and supporting her with his money needs to be investigated he is capturing a teenager that's the law...if something else the city,or child center needs to take care of this situation if really she is in danger....This is the law and this is America just don't open your mouth and say whatever you want to say .
WHAT THE HELL IS TALKING THAT
WHAT THE HELL IS TALKING THAT xxxxx ,IF IT WOULD HAPPENED IN ANY MUSLIM COUNTRY HE/SHE WOULD BE KILLED AT THE SAME TIME OF CONVERSION EVEN THE THE MEDIA ,COURT & GOVT ALL WOULD BE AGAINST THAT INNOCENT GIRL(IN MUSLIM COUNTRY) BUT OUR MEDIA IN EUROPE /USA IS xxxx OUR GOVT AND CULTURE DOES NOT SUPPORT RELIGION THEY ONLY SUPPORT MUSLIM IF THEY COME OUT ON STREETS AND STARTKILLING KAFFIRS WHO GONNA STOP THAM NO ONE ......WEST WILL NEVER WAKE UP ONLY MUSLIM KEEP WAKING IN WEST...
muslims GO FUK
muslims GO FUK Y'SELF..muslims GO FUK Y'SELF..muslims GO FUK Y'SELF..muslims GO FUK Y'SELF..muslims GO FUK Y'SELF..muslims GO FUK Y'SELF..muslims GO FUK Y'SELF..muslims GO FUK Y'SELF..muslims GO FUK Y'SELF..muslims GO FUK Y'SELF..muslims GO FUK Y'SELF..muslims GO FUK Y'SELF..muslims GO FUK Y'SELF..mmuslims GO FUK Y'SELF..muslims GO FUK Y'SELF..muslims GO FUK Y'SELF..muslims GO FUK Y'SELF..muslims GO FUK Y'SELF..muslims GO FUK Y'SELF..muslims GO FUK Y'SELF..muslims GO FUK Y'SELF..muslims GO FUK Y'SELF..muslims GO FUK Y'SELF..muslims GO FUK Y'SELF..muslims GO FUK Y'SELF..uslims GO FUK Y'SELF..muslims GO FUK Y'SELF..muslims GO FUK Y'SELF..muslims GO FUK Y'SELF..muslims GO FUK Y'SELF..muslims GO FUK Y'SELF..muslims GO FUK Y'SELF..muslims GO FUK Y'SELF..muslims GO FUK Y'SELF..muslims GO FUK Y'SELF..muslims GO FUK Y'SELF..muslims GO FUK Y'SELF..muslims GO FUK Y'SELF..muslims GO FUK Y'SELF..muslims GO FUK Y'SELF..muslims GO FUK Y'SELF..muslims GO FUK Y'SELF..muslims GO FUK Y'SELF..muslims GO FUK Y'SELF..muslims GO FUK Y'SELF..muslims GO FUK Y'SELF..muslims GO FUK Y'SELF..muslims GO FUK Y'SELF..muslims GO FUK Y'SELF..
miss rifqa.should counter sue
miss rifqa.should counter sue her parents and ask the courts of america to divorce her from them,let her drag the case in federal courts until she turn 18 years old,some one should contact the ACLU-AMERICAN CIVIL LIBERTY UNION LAWYERS on her behalf. MR.Ali Sina TRY TO puplicize her case on facebook
LOOK whos talking this
LOOK whos talking this atheist care about rifqa oh my oh my they care about the girl xxxxxxx they dont care about the girl they care about her coz of the publicity of the news they wont say a word when women n childs are killed in palestine n bosnia but they will make a issue out of this stuff COZ they dont care about the girl they care about the love of their hating islam to hate islam they can do any thing in this world
ACCORDING to the constition a minor should be handed to her parents whats wrong in that BUT u will say its wrong coz u hate islam so much that u will manipulate any thing jst for ur hate
It is clearly apparent now
It is clearly apparent now that the whole Bari family from Sri Lanka are here illegally. Therupon should be deported except for Rifqa who should be given assylum here.
Hey you Azim Khan, Looks like
Hey you Azim Khan,
Looks like you are associate of her parents.
With your sweet words you will send her to parents and after few days kill her to confirm a seat for yourself in the Jannat(heaven) for killing a kafir(non believer of Allah). To save your skins you will fabricate her murder as an accident. Cmon man it's very old practice you cruel muslims do to kill a non believer. It's not Iran,Pakistan,Saudi Arabia etc etc. It's USA.
DHAREMA, PAKISTAN (Worthy
DHAREMA, PAKISTAN (Worthy News)-- A Christian schoolgirl in Pakistan's Punjab province was recovering Sunday, October 11, after she was allegedly "ruthlessly beaten" with a bamboo stick by a Muslim headteacher for saying she is "a Pakistani" citizen.
The bedridden Nadia Iftikhar, 11, told Worthy News and its partner agency BosNewsLife that she was seriously injured when the teacher of the local evening coaching school 'Bright Future Academy' in the town of Dharema got angry because she challenged her views on Islam.
Our teacher was teaching us about the culture of Pakistan and Pakistani people and quoted a sentence from the text book saying 'We are Pakistani and all of us are Muslims'," the girl recalled. "At this point I interrupted and said: "Madam, I am also a Pakistani, but not a Muslim instead I am a Christian."
The teacher, identified as Humaira Hassa, "got furious and grabbed a bamboo stick and started thrashing in a barbarian way and kept saying all Pakistanis are Muslim, you are not a Pakistani but a Christian," the girl said. "Your home land is some where in Europe or America," the teacher allegedly said.
Nadia added showed scars of the wounds at her back. Classmates said the girl briefly became unconscious, but was eventually brought home. The teacher could not be reached for comment.
NO POLICE
The girl's father, Iftikhar Masih, 45 said he did not went to local police. "I am an impoverished Christian man and am busy working for a daily wage to feed my family."
Local Christians in Punjab province have also complained of police complicity in attacks against Christian believers. However I have taken her to the doctor and and we believe that her injuries will be healed and she will be able to return to her school.
It was not immediately clear whether the 6th grade girl would be welcomed again by the Bright Future Academy where she said she has been studying for three years.
The attack is no isolated incident in the tense province, Christians said. There have been protests in Punjab province against attacks on churches and individuals and alleged persecution by authorities.
Azim Khan: " LOOK whos
Azim Khan:
" LOOK whos talking this atheist care about rifqa oh my oh my they care about the girl xxxxxxx they dont care about the girl they care about her coz of the publicity of the news they wont say a word when women n childs are killed in palestine n bosnia but they will make a issue out of this stuff COZ they dont care about the girl they care about the love of their hating islam to hate islam they can do any thing in this world
ACCORDING to the constition a minor should be handed to her parents whats wrong in that BUT u will say its wrong coz u hate islam so much that u will manipulate any thing jst for ur hate"
We care for her because this girl is an Apostate and Islam requires her to be killed. This smart intelligent girl has decided to dump your evil religion and we are gonna do everything to publicize this fact and give her all the protection she needs. Whine all you want - your Allah can go to hell.
If God is with us who can be
If God is with us who can be against us. I will pray for the girl so He may protect her from the attack of her parients those who are falsely guided by satanic prophet muhammad and his allah.
I blaim her parents. They
I blaim her parents. They cant teach her a lesson? Given her so much freedom to mix with Kafir society who inturn brainwashed her. Its her parents duty to guide her. How can she be so neglectful and ill-mannered? How can a big teenage run away from her parents? The love of parents are a gift from God...nobody in this world will look after her as much as her parents will. She shouldn't have behaved like this with her parents. 17 year old is not too young at all, some teenagers have PH.D at 16 years of age even.
If you know the world history
If you know the world history , analyze the religions - then you will understand that Britain, other western countries are responsible for the nurturing and survival of ISLAM - the poison ,hatefilled, intolerant,fascist,slavery ,violent bloodthirsty theology. Actually both ISLAM and christianity are intolerant,fascist, not accepting any other faiths or religions. ISLAM must be defanged and banished from the face of this earth- as it is based on hatred, killings, slavery,totalitarian,ant-freedom,anti-peace
Poor Rifqa - a brave,
Poor Rifqa - a brave, courageous girl. Can no one step forward and defend her?
If as one correspondent says, the family are here illegally, she should claim asylum on the grounds of imminent danger and the family should be be deported.
The USA needs to show solidarity against Islamic law. Sharia law has no place in the USA.
HM Comment ID #27760 "I blame
HM Comment ID #27760 "I blame the parents."
Quite right- they should have kept her in Purdah eh? Locked in the house until she was of marriagable age (6-9) then married to a 'good moslem man' of 'suitable age' (50+) who would know how to treat her 'right'.
Yeah, right!
Unfortunately for both you and them, this is the West, more particularly America, where people of all ages have "rights".
I know that many moslems don't believe in human rights or freedom etc (I've seen the banners, heard the chants) but bad luck again.
I have no doubt that the law of America provides for a minor to be protected from his/er parents if the parents are seeking to harm him/her.
I think that there may be a simple litmus test in this case.
I agree with those who opined that Rifqa would not be killed in the US. I suspect that there would be to much media interest to allow the family to do so and get away with it. It would also be used in any further cases to set legal a precendent - which (fortunately) would be detrimental to moslems, so I suspect they'd just "suck it up" - at least for the time being.
But, if she is removed from the Country (as Ali sina fears #27596) then I too fear for her life. The US can't protect her in (eg) Sri Lanka and the death of an apostate would definitely NOT be news there or in any other (not Western) Country with a large moslem population.
Finally, this is not (fundamentally) about Islam, it is about Human Rights.
Or, if you prefer; it is about how 'Islamic rights' conflict with human rights.
PS Is it possible to get a transcript of the exchange, I can't make it out.
HM says: "I blaim her
HM says:
"I blaim her parents. They cant teach her a lesson? Given her so much freedom to mix with Kafir society who inturn brainwashed her. Its her parents duty to guide her. How can she be so neglectful and ill-mannered? How can a big teenage run away from her parents? The love of parents are a gift from God…nobody in this world will look after her as much as her parents will. She shouldn’t have behaved like this with her parents. 17 year old is not too young at all, some teenagers have PH.D at 16 years of age even."
Would you say the same thing if it was a Christian girl converting to Islam?
Hypocrite!
Hi, What you accept from this
Hi,
What you accept from this animals called themselves Muslim?
They are nothing but animals. Muhammad was a follower of satan and allah himself is a satan. Who is after blood and blood. Whats happening in Pakistan? Muslim killing muslims. If allah is not a satan then how come his followers kills God's creaton?
Proof me any satan's claimed I am wrong?
Muhammad was suffering from so many illness. He was a bloody xxxxxxxx. My foot.
xxxx muhammad and his allah and his all wives.
"""HM Comment ID
"""HM Comment ID #27760
October 16, 2009 • 4:32 am
I blaim her parents. They cant teach her a lesson? Given her so much freedom to mix with Kafir society who inturn brainwashed her. Its her parents duty to guide her. How can she be so neglectful and ill-mannered? How can a big teenage run away from her parents? The love of parents are a gift from God…nobody in this world will look after her as much as her parents will. She shouldn’t have behaved like this with her parents. 17 year old is not too young at all, some teenagers have PH.D at 16 years of age even.""""
That's why you think a six year old Aisha was mature enough to marry with Muhammad(pbuh) and was fit to have sex at 9 year with Muhammad(pbuh). And here this girl much more mature at 17 is not given freedom to chose the the religion of her choice.
Why this double standered.
It is very typical Muslim behavior, twisting facts according to the desired results.
Well...Why..there are
Well...Why..there are millions of human beings who suffer in this world. Dont you pity them? Dont have a heart for the people who suffer in hospitals / poverty / etc. Rifqa Bary is becoming a celebrity. And now you are crazy to support her for running away from her parents and converting into religions without knowing anything about religions. She doesnt even bother to learn about religions and she converted to Christianity just to show-off people? Rifqa is an adult..she can understand whats right and wrong....how could she run away from her parents who looked after her since she was born...This is a pathetic ill attitude..Even if she doesnt believe in Islam thats perfectly fine...her parents have given her the freedom...but why would she misuse this freedom...is it necessary to convert into Christianity and run away from her parents when she is under 18..this is a sick attitude...why would she bother to convert at this point wen she knows nothing...she must have been brainwashed into doing evil things? Her parents treated her like a normal American child....why would she have a tendency to betray her parents like this...Whats a spoilt rotten egg Rifqa Bary the christian convert celebrity brainwashed by her friends at the expense of her Muslim beloved parents. She misused her freedom. Now she thinks her friends will act like her guardians and parent her instead of her real parents. So to her, her friends are better guardians than her parents who looked after her for 17 years ! Huh what a rotten head. People who brainwashed her into having such negative attitude and giving her money to run away from her mother and father are kidnappers. Her parents should have been more conservative.
HM you are an evil hypocrite.
HM you are an evil hypocrite. According to Islamic properganda thousands of young american girls are converting to Is-sham. There is not one story of one of these girls being treatened with murder from their parents or friends. Rifqa is a 'celebrity' because her satanic zombie parents have promised to murder her for her new beliefs.
Muhammed (Pigs Be Upon Him) would be proud.
To, HM Comment ID
To,
HM Comment ID #27996
October 17, 2009 • 1:01 pm
Just remember what have you posted in above mentioned comment.
She was brainwashed?
She was misguided?
She is doing it for fame?
She is minor to chose religion of her choice?
Then what would you say about Aisha, who was forced to marry Mohammad(pbuh) at 6 years of age?
You wanna say Aisha was mature enough to decide her groom at 6 while this girl Rifqa Bary is so little at 16 to chose religion of her choice.
You brain wash small children for bloody Jihad, and blaming we the free people for brain washing Rifqa Bary.
You say she is misusing freedom. Listen HM- Muslims are misusing freedom in the USA, didn't you read the news CAIR found with hands in glove with Al-Queda. CAIR was free accorhid to USA law to practice religion but they mis used this freedom to plot terror activiteis on US soil.
O come on HM, I'm sorry to say but it seems you are not a true muslim, cos a true muslim never lies. What more I can say about you man you are not a man of your words.
It takes time to reveal the truth, and I'm showing it to you for last one week here and there on FaithFreedom.org.
HM, I think you are Mehbish
HM, I think you are Mehbish Hossain, you sound like her anyway.
I would like to respectfully respond. You always ask us not to judge and not to make claims for which we don’t have proof. And what do you do?
You say: “HER for running away from her parents and converting into religions without knowing anything about religions. She doesnt even bother to learn about religions and she converted to Christianity just to show-off people?”
But you have no way of knowing what this girl (whom you yourself consider an adult) knows or does not know about both Islam and Christianity. It is just your assumption because of biased prejudice.
You ask how she could run away from her parents when she testifies that her father threathened to kill her if she “kept this Jesus in her heart”. And out of biased prejudice you assume that she perjures herself and flees for some egoistic reason, while you just can’t know these things, you are offering assumptions and opinions without proof here.
You say: “Even if she doesnt believe in Islam thats perfectly fine…her parents have given her the freedom…” Here you blatantly ignore Rifqa’s testimony and testimony given by many people that apostasy is not allowed in Islam.
You seem to be so ignorant about this. But in Iran, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Pakistan and other Islamic countries there exist written laws that apostasy from Islam is punishable by death or imprisonment. And there are now at least 2 Iranian girls in Evin prison in Teheran for converting from Islam to Christianity. All 4 influential Islamic schools of thought maintain that apostasy from Islam is punishable with death/ imprisonment. This is such easy and overwhelming proof. And yet you have dared to write in The Challenge: Anyone anywhere can choose any religion they want.
And Pigs be upon him is right; Muslims keep telling us that so many Western girls convert to Islam all the time. Yet not one of them is threathened, let alone persecuted anywhere in the world for this. You yourself, a student, told us you converted very consciously to Islam, trough deep thinking. And now Rifqah Bary has done the same but you don’t believe a word she says, don’t you? How can decent Muslims even live with such blatant and proven double standards in regard to freedom of religion?
I saw her parents on youtube
I saw her parents on youtube and they seem nice people (not short-tempered) who accepts people from different faiths. She is very lucky to have such parents who let her do whatever she wants to do. Her parents have the right to protect their young daughter from danger. The Muslim Sheikh has to decide on her death because there is a maturity level for the death of apostates.
Rifqa Bary you are a rotten spoilt moron. You are a 17 year old adult. Cant believe u got brainwashed by reading a biased book and the Bible and then converted to Christianity without knowing anything about Islam. Your parents are crying for you so badly and you should be grateful to god (whoever it is) for giving you such protective parents who care so much about u. Keep up the Holy Bible (full of craziness and countless proven contradictions) and run away from your parents ! Other people will care more about you than your parents. Stay away from your parents and stay inside the church all day long !! The priest will guide you to success and heaven in your dreams !
your logical Bible ...keep it up like a moron ! Go to the priest and he will bring peace to humanity (in your dreams) !
I agree with Azim Khan. This
I agree with Azim Khan. This is publicity. It is written in the Quran that no Muslim can decide on her death ( not even her parents) except the Sheikh. As far as I think she probably ( I am not sure) did not reach such maturity level to deserve a death sentence. But however, 17 years is quite adult because people go to university at this age.
This is total pubcility by Rifqa. She is a spoilt brainwashed girl who agrees with illogical things. You people make a big deal out of her actions...when you hear some women and children dying in Palestine or some other part of the world...you people ignore....is this humanity? You do not pity people living in poverty? You do not care about millions of people suffering in this world ? Shame on you. This is Rifqa Bary story is a silly movie nothing else.
You people are mean stone hearted.
To HM, in response to posts
To HM, in response to posts 28243 + 28461.
You wrote:
"Her parents have the right to protect their young daughter from danger. The Muslim Sheikh has to decide on her death because there is a maturity level for the death of apostates."
And: "As far as I think she probably ( I am not sure) did not reach such maturity level to deserve a death sentence. But however, 17 years is quite adult because people go to university at this age."
Do I understand you correctly in that it is "normal and acceptable" for you that a Muslim Sheikh may even consider, have a say, about the VERY LIFE of an apostate, when adult? That such an adult in the opinion of Muslims Sheikhs and you too, deserve or even MIGHT DESERVE a death sentence?
For apostasy? being a citizen of the US by the way? For, in your words, stupidly believing in the stupid bible?
If that is your view, shame on you! why don't the Americans apprehend the many people who convert from Christianity to Islam then, have you even considered why that is? It is now hundreds of years ago, the last killing of an apostate in Christian countries.
And about not caring about other people? If the Israeli's kill a 1000, that is bad, but Muslims call it genocide, but they will support the president of Sudan, responsible for hundreds of thousands of killings, rapes, they will highlight Gaza a million times but largely ignore the plight of the Darfurians, who by the way are black Muslims.
Christians can make up own
Christians can make up own rules. Muslims never make up things. They follow the ORIGINAL Quran and Prophet (SWT) 's teachings. Christians make up new new laws sometimes. Christians are gullible and ridiculous. They dont understand whats correct and incorrect.
Apostates are not allowed to live in Muslim countries. Its better if they get out of Muslim nations. There r many Muslims who may not believe in Islam but they never change their names to another religion. Anyone who does that is insane and devil. Whats the reason for being an Aopostate? Its useless. All religions other than Islam is full of loopholes and contradictions. If born-Muslims do not like Islam, they are allowed to live peacefully, but not say insane things like converting to a different religion by changing their names. This is ridiculous.
Bible?? Did u read the Bible?? Its totally man-made and changed seveal times. The Quran is still in the original condition and does not have a single contradiction, wrong statement or flaw.
Apostates are weird people who dont accept facts..just like Ali Sinner the fraud...if they dont believe in Islam, they shudnt create mischeif....either they stay as an atheist and join Muslim comminity peacefully...or they convert to another religion and move to a Chrittian country..obvously they cant stay in a Muslim communinty because Muslims dont like dealing with mad and blind people.