Reclaiming Hijab Or Declining Freedom?
Submitted by Lopa Hassan on Wed, 01/28/2009 - 07:39
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(Re-Post: Originally published on September 30, 2002)
From head-to-toe Burqa to long cloak-Chador to black silky Hijab - each of these attires has become one of the most visible instruments and ideological symbols of political Islam for the last few decades. A number of great articles have already been written in this website on the background and history of veils and on how Islam justified them to be the strict dress code for women. In this article I would like to focus on the ongoing controversies over the justification of wearing hijab in a modern perspective and also see how some western-educated young Muslim women are internalizing the antiquated view of their own status imposed by an inherently misogynistic religion.
“Today young Muslim women are reclaiming the hijab, reinterpreting it in light of its original purpose - to give back to women the ultimate control of their own bodies….....I wear hijab because it gives me freedom. I do this because I am a Muslim woman who believes her body is her own private concern.” This is an excerpt from an essay written by a Canadian-born college-educated Muslim woman who suddenly decided to reclaim hijab at age twenty one. While being totally respectful of all the notions of civil liberties and a woman’s freedom of choice to wear anything she wants in a democratic society, I can’t help wondering what could drive a college-educated woman, of a North American upbringing, to throw away her freedom of clothing and embrace the veil or hijab and thus deluding herself that she is now liberated.
Just by wearing hijab she thinks she has full control of her body. What an illusive idea of liberation! We need to go to the origin of such notion and examine how veiling is anyway related to women’s freedom. Since the whole idea of cladding with veils emanates from the direct instructions of Qur’an, let’s first take a look at a few Ayats from the Holy Scriptures to examine how much control Allah Has allowed for women to have over their own body.
Volume 7, Book 62, Number 81: Narrated 'Uqba:
The Prophet said: “The stipulations most entitled to be abided by are those with which you are given the right to enjoy the (women's) private parts (i.e. the stipulations of the marriage contract).”
m5.4 (Ref: 8, p526):
Husband’s rights: A husband possesses full right to enjoy his wife’s person (A: from the top of her head to the bottoms of her feet, though anal intercourse (dis: p75.20) is absolutely unlawful) in what does not physically harm her.
Imam Ghazali
A woman must keep her sexual organs ready for service at all times. (Ref: 7: vol. I, p235)
(Shahih Muslim) Book 008, Number 3366:
When a woman spends the night away from the bed of her husband, the angels curse her until morning.
(Sunaan Abu Dawud 11.2142)Book 11, Number 2142:
Narrated Umar ibn al-Khattab: The Prophet (Peace Be Upon Him) said: “A man will not be asked as to why he beat his wife.”
Looks like Allah’s law guaranteed a man every right to go into his wife ‘anyway’ he wants, to discipline her anytime he wishes, and the wife has no say of her own about this. We don’t need to look hard into Muslim societies to find the terrible consequences the millennium-old Shariah law has brought for women. Due to the absence of premarital dating, the customary arranged marriage compels a Muslim woman to surrender herself to a complete strange man giving him the full ownership of her body. My question, what veil comes to her defense when she ends up being raped at her wedding night? What protection her hijab gives her when she must hasten to fulfill her husband’s desire even if she herself doesn’t feel compel to? Why can’t she take over and claim the so-called ‘ultimate control over her own body’ to protect herself when the husband exercises his Hadith-sanctioned right to discipline her?
The Canadian young woman made some interesting points in her essay, “Wearing the hijab has given me freedom from constant attention to my physical self. Because my appearance is not subjected to public scrutiny, my beauty, or perhaps lack of it, has been removed from the realm of what can legitimately be discussed. No one knows whether my hair looks as if I just stepped out of a salon, whether or not I can pinch an inch, or even if I have unsightly stretch marks. And because no one knows, no one cares.” This apparently logical assertion of ‘not being displayed to public scrutiny’ might give the impression that Muslim women are probably free from being subjected to meet the impossible male standards of female beauty and therefore are actually taken as equal human beings in their society. Sounds more like feminist fantasyland than Islamic paradise! Is there any such Muslim society where the evaluation criteria don’t include a woman’s physical features when searching for a potential bride for a traditional arranged marriage? I’m sorry, my hijab-loving sisters, there are people (like your potential in-laws) who would ‘know’ and ‘care’ if you have an unsightly stretch mark on your forehead or if you have a bad hair day when those people will examine you like a piece of furniture. Yes, judging women’s worth proportional to their attractiveness is indeed a universal male attitude. Perhaps Islam saved Muslim men a little shame on this issue by making it part of the divine decree like the following:
(Ibid, p228) : Her dowry should be reasonable. The Prophet said: “The best of the women are the beautiful in face and the least in dowry.
In an attempt to defend veiling, Islamic apologists all too often point their fingers to western women accusing them of reducing the definition of liberation to a right of wearing next to nothing. To these people, a woman can only be either scantily-clad or veil-clad; nothing could exist in between the two extremes! It is true that women in the West are often judged on the basis of their appearance, objectified, and very often suffer sexual harassments. Certainly every society has its flaws. I personally don’t like to see women being objectified everywhere in the media. We need to realize that North American and European women enjoy a whole array of rights and freedom all of which they had to earn through decades of movements and struggles. The freedom of clothing is just one of their numerous civic rights. If we unjustly reduce their achievements and contributions by stereotyping them as mere ‘Baywatch sirens’, we would only do a disservice to women of all backward societies(specially Muslim communities) by crushing their hope of ever marching forward.
So what is the most convincing reason for observing hijab according to Muslim scholars? They argue ‘wearing headscarves or veils actually stops men from treating women like sex objects. Veils make them ignore women’s appearance and draw attention to their personalities and mind’. Nice twisted logic! I argue veiling only reinforces the idea that women are nothing but sex objects which is why they have to take the whole responsibility of ‘not exciting men in anyway’ by wrapping themselves up with a shapeless piece of garment. Burqas or hijabs had not been able to raise women’s status to a liberated and independent group of humans in last 1400 years. No matter how much Islamists apologize in defense of veiling, it has been and will continue to be a symbol of subjugation and oppression of Muslim women all over the world. Segregating women from public life, controlling their freedom of movement, and thereby institutionalizing a system of sexual apartheid are just some of the best contributions that veiling has made so far.
Islamic apologists always get the free ride in spreading their propaganda that Islam gave women the ‘true liberation- and a place to actively contribute in society’, simply because no moderate Muslim seems to stand up and pose the obvious question, “Is this because of that ‘true liberation’ we see such a high illiteracy rate among Muslim women in the Middle East?”, or “Is that why the Arab world is being crippled by repression of women and is thus marching toward stagnancy?” Nobody seems to point out the fundamental fallacy of the argument of how veiling protects women from male sexual advances. Why don’t we see any Muslim man being bothered by the idea that implies each and every man of all age would lose every sense of a rational thought at the sight of a girl’s bare arm or her uncovered neck? And what kind of message does it send to a young Muslim girl when she’s preparing to set her foot to the outside world? Doesn’t she need to learn to have respect toward the opposite sex? Strange how we never think about the various psychological traumas a young woman might suffer while going through the process of mandatory veiling.
Muslim women need more than Quranic teachings; they need moral guidance showing that they could be modest and virtuous without the help of veils or hijabs. And why is it that women always have to worry about what they should or should not wear? After all, what makes a woman respectable has very little to do with her attire, and a lot to do with what is inside her brain and how much she uses it.
Finally, returning to the young women’s assertion ‘I wear hijab because I choose to……I find the experience liberating”; I’m happy that she feels liberated and has the freedom to choose the hijab. Only thing we need to be reminded is millions of Arab and Iranian women simply don’t have that freedom of choice; hijab for them is a forced legal requirement. I think, for Muslim women, raised in a free society, to go and advocate for veils or hijabs is just a cruel mockery to the sufferings of hundreds and thousands of women who were slashed with razors, had acid thrown in their faces, often were killed and imprisoned until the Islamic regime in Iran and other Arab states were able to enforce compulsory veiling and establish their rule. As for ‘liberation through hijab’ concept, I only have one question- what is so conflicting with the idea of liberation to demand a little freedom of feeling the wind through my hair?
Lopa Hassan, lopa_hassan@hotmail.com
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References
1. Against Hijab By Azam Kamguian , http://www.secularislam.org/women/hijab.htm
2. Women in Islam: An Exegesis (Part 4/7), By Abul Kasem
http://main.faithfreedom.org/Articles/abulkazem/women_in_islam4.htm
3. "My body is my own business." Naheed Mustafa
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/humanrelations/womeninislam/hijabexperience.html
4. Women in Islam: An Exegesis (Part 5/7), By Abul Kasem
http://main.faithfreedom.org/Articles/abulkazem/women_in%20Islam5.htm
5. Islam, Political Islam and Women in the Middle East. By Maryam Namazie
http://main.faithfreedom.org/Articles/Namazie/Women_in_ME.htm
A passing dog, an Ass and a
A passing dog, an Ass and a woman defile and nullify the prayer! so much for women's freedom in pisslam.
It's another matter that an ugly looking fat woman can hide herself in burkha well and not be an eye sore! Pisslam
Islam insist on women wearing
Islam insist on women wearing Hijab so that Muslim men do not get provoked- it implies that Muslim men find it difficult to control their "animal instinct". So would it be wrong to suspect the Muslim men of Vile intentions in a multi-religious society where women of other religions do not wear Hijab?? Wouldn't an young girl in Jeans and top would be a provocation to the Muslim men- can they be trusted to control their animal instincts????
Just curious...anyone knows
Just curious...anyone knows exactly what is the minimum distance a passing dog, an Ass and a woman, must keep away from the praying muslim man?
(I have dogs and women running all over the neighbourhood)
Cheers
I am a Hindu and can only
I am a Hindu and can only sympathise with the plight of women in the islamic world. However I would also like to bring to your notice the plight of women in India especially with reference to the recent incident in Mangalore, Karnataka India http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Pub_attack_Ram_Sena_chief_Muthalik_ar...
Let me tell you that this is not one isolated case such moral policing by right wing gropus in India are quite frequent. Maybe someone with litreray skills can write an article to highlight this here because they are no less dangerous than the Taliban.
I find the Sunni assertions
I find the Sunni assertions that Shia are not Muslim, very absurd given the fact that Shias are better Muslims than the Sunnnis. Yes the Shia donot believe in the Sahabas and the Caliphate of Abu Bakr and the other Caliphs and even consider Ali to a prophet. Yet when it comes to hating the Kuffar no Sunni can ever beat the Shia. The shia cleverly hide their hatred in their heart and behave as though nothing is wrong. They act infront of others like they love the whole world.
I once had a Shia who I used to consider as a friend telling me that " You Sunnis have distorted the real image of Muhammad, when in reality he was more peaceful than Gandhi" This is a fact, you cannot make a Shia talk of his hatred for others except ofcourse if you are a Shia.
Most non-Muslims are not aware of Shia dcotrine, but lemme tell you they are worse than the Sunnis, when it comes to hating others. Through the last 1400 years they have developed the technique of smiling at people's faces whiile cursing them in their hearts.
I am just wating for the Americans to leave Iraq, and then we will be seeing a bloody massacre in which hundreds and thousands of Sunnis will be killed. Today the Shia are75% of the population in Iraq, soon they will be 80% owing to the fact that the Sunnis can never beat the Shia in population growth.
So I feel that the US should leave Iraq and the Shias will take care of most of the Sunni tribes.......
It is time Muslim women break
It is time Muslim women break out from this demeaning cloak as a first step in their liberation from this nonsensical cult. If IMuslim men are aroused by watching uncovered women, then these bearded rascals should cover their eyes, lower their eyes or just control their mind and their canine instincts instead of suppressing their hapless women. Civilization is judged by how men treat their women and NOT how men subjugate their women. There is no justification at all in trying to cover women in hot and stuffy burkas.
Islam, today, represents what religion must NOT be, than what religion should be all about. Hope sense prevails and women in the "Darul Islam" are liberated. Alternately Muslim women must come out of their coccoon and taste freedom by abandoning their religion and marrying into other communities and cock a snook to their outdated Mullahs and Talibanic trash believers.
Bible says, a woman should
Bible says, a woman should neither pray nor profess with her head uncovered. If a woman prays with her head uncovered then shave her head:
"But every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head - it is the same as having her head shaved. For if a woman does not cover her head, she might as well have her hair cut off; but if it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut off or her head shaved, then she should cover her head." (1 Corinthians 11:5-6)
"Judge in yourselves: is it comely that a woman pray unto God (with her head) uncovered?" (1 Corinthians 11:13)
Biblical God says, gay and
Biblical God says, gay and lesbian must be put to death:
"If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads." (Leviticus 20:13)
Cannibalism in the
Cannibalism in the Bible:
"So we boiled my son, and did eat him: and I said unto her on the next day, Give thy son, that we may eat him: and she hath hid her son." (2 Kings 6:29)
"And ye shall eat the flesh of your sons, and the flesh of your daughters shall ye eat." (Leviticus 26:29)
"And I will cause them to eat the flesh of their sons and the flesh of their daughters, and they shall eat every one the flesh of his friend in the siege and straitness, wherewith their enemies, and they that seek their lives, shall straiten them." (Jeremiah 19:9)
"With their own hands compassionate women have cooked their own children, who became their food when my people were destroyed." (Lamentations 4:10)
"Therefore in your midst fathers will eat their children, and children will eat their fathers. I will inflict punishment on you and will scatter all your survivors to the winds." (Ezekiel 5:10)
"Because of the suffering that your enemy will inflict on you during the siege, you will eat the fruit of the womb, the flesh of the sons and daughters the LORD your God has given you." (Deuteronomy 28:53)
A-MIN, I agree with what you
A-MIN, I agree with what you have written. I know that there are verses in the Bible that cannot be palatable to the Human Mind. However while you are quoting these Biblical verses, have you ever stopped to wonder as to why you are unable to see the similar if not same hateful message in the Qur'an.
Rather than just quoting verses from the Bible you should sit back and reflect on the evil Ayas in the Qur'an.
I know you will try to rationalize and Justify them, however the problem is that it is not a solution, rather another problem in itself. If you really feel that the Bible is evil after due consideration and reflecting on it. I am sure that you will be able to find similar faults in the Qur'an and in the Sunnah.
However if you are blindly copy pasting these verses from evilbible dot com, then I am afraid you are not enlightning yourself. You are merely trying to somehow justify the wrong the in the Qur'an.
In the end you will find that you are merely fooling yourself by copy pasting these verses and it is of no help unless you really want to learn the truth while is beyond a sigle book.
sorry forgot to add.Dog,
sorry forgot to add.Dog, woman a donkey and farting, annul the prayer.Some time ago there was a detailed description in Arab news as to how one can know if the prayer is valid or not when one farted or not during prayer.LOL look at the level of moscums.They want to know if they have farted or not with the help of a mullah. No wonder allah the pimp is farting on moscums
Ibrahim Right on. I t is
Ibrahim
Right on.
I t is the classic case of the pot calling kettle black, both these Abrahamaic believers can sound very embarrassing sometimes, here we have a muslim quoting evil verses from the bible to justify his Islam, in another thread or a post to come, a Christian will quote the evil verses of the quran trying to show the evil nature of the book, all this while the muslim/christian debaters think they are behaving sensible and are being objective, this surely embarrasses the usage of good knowledge since each opponent will not look at the accusations made against him objectively, the only time he/she is objective is when treating his opponent's religion, very deviating from the path of true application of knowledge.
The only time that both believers will unite is when they apply non sequiturs and ad homonems to the non-believers, they will try hard to bring the negativity of non-belief without considering the fact that even if they succeed in pointing out true problems with any type of non-belief it doesn't make their religion true, a religion is only true if it brings a verifiable, testable, repeatable and a universally acknowledged evidence, without this, I don't see how one religious person will falsify any other religion. They constantly fail to realize that it is only their type of religions that have a book to follow, anything without a godly doctrine is not compulsive on its adherence, it is up to us humans to highlight human errors and rectify them.
Islam is to be divided into 72 different sects while Christianity has upwards of several thousands sects still each and everyone calls himself/herself the true one, calvinists believe in salvation through predestination while others have other methods, and funny enough each one is right bacause they got the contradictory salvation from the same source i.e the bible, as for muslims, am sure 90% of them won't give their daughters out at 6 and will be angry at any husband beating their daughters.
BD( who is sure the muslims must be ashamed of the verse and hadith where the prophet and allah okayed wife beating)
Funnily but tragically the
Funnily but tragically the shias and sunnis slaughter each other when kafirs are not available around to subdue or kafirs around refuse to be subdued.Its time for americans to leave Iraq and watch the fun.Sunnis and shias calling each other kafirs and bombing each other.We can send the Indian shia and sunni contingent to Iraq to help the build up.In islam destruction is building and constructing.So we can just rest back and watch the fun.Moscums in india can be of significan t help to iraqis in their body piling up acts. Saddam was the best hope for eliminating shias and sunnis with impunity.I donno why bush decided to get rid of saddam.Inshallah we will soon have magdi coming and creating blood bath just like the one in current papi land!
The Old Testament is just
The Old Testament is just that old. That was for the Israelites only, no one else. Sodomy and slavery are considered wrong as per 1 Tim 1:8. Christ brought a new covenant and no one is still under the Law of Moses. Many of the verses you qutoed was when the Jews had left God and followed pagans. So please read and read again. Cannabalism is not God's way, neither is sodomy, polygamy, slavery, murder, lying, pedophilia, murder.
Christian women only covered when praying inside of the church not at the market. Make sense. Covering the head was to show respect for the Christian man, not the pagan man.
Muslim women cover also to keep the demons from getting excited. Now demons are invisible and cant they see a woman in the bath? (smile)
A-MIM Stands for
A-MIM
Stands for XXX-Mohammedan Idiotic Mother-XXXX
All this stuff is from Koran, the XXXX-pot. Quote the correct verse numbers, will yea moron? Don`t do taqiyya here.
Hindu retard
Hindu retard Paki_islamist_terrorist,
Are you heavily drunk? You sound like a son of xxxxx. Are you not?
Bible: Female birth gets
Bible: Female birth gets penalty:
"If a woman have conceived seed, and born a man child: then she shall be unclean seven days...but if she bear a maid child, then she shall be unclean two weeks." (Leviticus 12:2-5)
Bible: Kill the women and animal:
"If a man has sexual relations with an animal, he must be put to death, and you must kill the animal. If a woman approaches an animal to have sexual relations with it, kill both the woman and the animal. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads." (Leviticus 20:15-16)
In Saudi Arabia women hate
In Saudi Arabia women hate the hi jab & burkha,given a chance they will throw it.I work in a different Muslim country now & i asked a women why do u wear the hi jab.she replied "it's an religious obligation".I replied "fine,not an problem,but will it stop at this? tomorrow the mullahs will ask u to wear the burkha & later they will ask u to cover the face.who will tell them to stop."This lady was visibly disturbed,I feel the hi jab issue is being used by the mullahs to push for more rights in non Muslim countries.unfortunately our secular politicians do not have the balls to say" NO" to hi jab.
Bible: Menstrual women are
Bible: Menstrual women are untouchable just like Sudras:
"And if a woman have an issue (her period/menses), [and] her issue in her flesh be blood, she shall be put apart seven days: and whosoever toucheth her shall be unclean until the even. And every thing that she lieth upon in her separation shall be unclean: every thing also that she sitteth upon shall be unclean. And whosoever toucheth her bed shall wash his clothes, and bathe [himself] in water, and be unclean until the even. And whosoever toucheth any thing that she sat upon shall wash his clothes, and bathe [himself] in water, and be unclean until the even. And if it [be] on [her] bed, or on any thing whereon she sitteth, when he toucheth it, he shall be unclean until the even. And if any man lie with her at all, and her flowers be upon him, he shall be unclean seven days; and all the bed whereon he lieth shall be unclean. And if a woman have an issue of her blood many days out of the time of her separation, or if it run beyond the time of her separation; all the days of the issue of her uncleanness shall be as the days of her separation: she [shall be] unclean. Every bed whereon she lieth all the days of her issue shall be unto her as the bed of her separation: and whatsoever she sitteth upon shall be unclean, as the uncleanness of her separation. And whosoever toucheth those things shall be unclean, and shall wash his clothes, and bathe [himself] in water, and be unclean until the even. But if she be cleansed of her issue, then she shall number to herself seven days, and after that she shall be clean. And on the eighth day she shall take unto her two turtles, or two young pigeons, and bring them unto the priest, to the door of the tabernacle of the congregation. And the priest shall offer the one [for] a sin offering, and the other [for] a burnt offering; and the priest shall make an atonement for her before the LORD for the issue of her uncleanness." (Leviticus 15:19-30)
A-MIM, I would strongly urge
A-MIM, I would strongly urge you to quote from your Quran as well.. that will do you a lot of good..
we know and accept that there is lot of crap in non-muslim religions but what makes non-islamic religions apart is the non-application of that crap to regular life.. ok.. if you use just 0.001% of your brain, you will understand it..
Islam , on the other hand , is 70% crap but the issue is that muslims retarded by constant fear of the wrath of alllah are following it.. and are not willing to accept that crap in quran..
God gave you brain to reason but Allah and moHAM-mad corrupted it ..
Islam and its ludicrously
Islam and its ludicrously puritanical dictates are the root cause of such excessively conservative "dress codes". Fraudulent ideologies tend to produce all sorts of disfunctional and nonsensical behaviour.
This xxxxx-Mohammedan A-MIM,
This xxxxx-Mohammedan A-MIM, the beard monkey has quoted all this from Koran (the abysmal shitpot). Mullahs give him injections of this xxxx, which this retard Koran-xxxx feels obliged to spew here at this site and then label it as some other book. What a moron!
The utterly disgraceful way
The utterly disgraceful way Islam treatments women have a direct bearing on the evil minded prophet of theirs- Muhammad.
1- Muhammad a poor orphan married Khadija, a rich widow older to him, in 599AD. As long as Kadija, the benefactor of Muhammad was alive he "dared not take another wife although Arabs were known to have more than one wife.
2- Khadija died in 619AD, and Muhammad started started marrying many women including Ayesha.
3- In 13 years between 619AD- death of Khadeeja- to 632AD- death of Muhammad- Muhammad married more than 9 women including his own daughter-in-law, Zinaba and child Ayesha.
4- Muhammad instructed Muslim Women to use Hijab because he could not control his sexual urge and must have "ogled" at every woman he met.
5- So if Khadeeja had out lived Muhammad- probably Muhammad would not have married anyone else and would have directed Muslims to adhere to strict "monogamous" relationship throw out their life.
6- The fact that Qur'an Surah 33 Verse 53 lays down the rules on how to visit Muhammad's house and specifies as to how to talk to his wives (from behind screen- do not ogle at them)- Allah seems to divert into minute details to satisfy Muhammad- clearly indicates the lecherous character of Muhammad.
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Islam: Dress-code: Male:
Islam: Dress-code:
Male: tight skull cap to restrict growth of brain (resemble circumcised dick-heads), overall become retarded beard-monkeys.
Women: Head to toe covered in blacks (98% vagina)
They both feel that non-muslims envy them on their attire!
Dear Friend A-MIN Can you
Dear Friend A-MIN
Can you kindly tell us as to what you are trying to achieve by posting these verses from all sorts of religions texts? I really don't understand as to what you are trying to prove. We know that the Bible contains rotten verses, does that make you feel better about the Qur'an.
Ultimately the Moderator will delete all these posts containing the verses that you have posted in the Forum. All that will remain is what you have said for yourself. Common man, you can speak for yourself. Why do you need to quote from some one Else's book to justify your religion.
There are a lot of sensible people here who will give you respect if you debate with some sense of respect. I am sure we could learn something from you in the process. If you feel some is acting like an ass (there are plenty here, including some high school dropouts) just ignore him. We could have a discussion on any issue you like.
We could begin with this article.
The problem with moscums are
The problem with moscums are far too many to list and they have been duscussed and analysed.The difficulty is how to get the kafirs know the truth about both Islam ( that is the current danger) and Biblical evil ( that was a dangerous cult and can soon turn in to a murderous cult if no opponent)_?
That is the difficulty.Look at one idiotic christian who keeps harping on US of A as being a christian country and wants every non christian out of US. Try as you want mate.These non christians will not only screw the christian daughters but also will enjoy all the benefits of ? christian society.Ha nothing you can do.Now there we are.Feelin angry and upset? Ofcourse you must be.All religions are absurd and stupid as they are all man made.there is nothing divine about christianity,please get it in to your biblically hardened skull.
If moscums are stupid for believing the sun sets in a muddy pond, you are stupidier to laugh at him and believing that the earth is flat and sun goes round the earth. Did you get that? i guess not. reading too much of bible and qrand leads to brain atrophy.
Keep it going Busted divinity.Your posts always make me feel that there are plenty of rational people in the so called christian countries and one need to be stupid just because he is born to christian parents ..A believing christian is as stupid as the moslem counter part and may be he is not dangerous at the moment. Believe me they are as dangerous as the islamic cretins.
ProudKafir. You are as stupid
ProudKafir.
You are as stupid as you think a believing christian is because that takes the discussion away from islam.. Christians have reformed themselves to the extent that most of the people are athiests in western contries nowadays..
In London, more people visit mosque than church even though they hardly form 2% of the population..
So, if you want to open a front for christians, do that on a christian forum..
Hindutwa retard
Hindutwa retard Paki_islamist_terrorist Says:
"Islam: Dress-code:
Male: tight skull cap to restrict growth of brain (resemble circumcised dick-heads), overall become retarded beard-monkeys."
*Hindu and Christian girls always fall in love with circumcised dick, you know! Because circumcised dick looks manly rather than kiddish!
"Women: Head to toe covered in blacks (98% vagina)"
Well, are you saying that your mom and sisters have got 70-80% vagina? lol
"They both feel that non-muslims envy them on their attire!"
Of course they do. At least you do! Because you are frustrated for the fact that your mom and sisters have got only 70-80% vagina!
A-MIM, whatever you say is a
A-MIM,
whatever you say is a pure reflection of how you have been brought up.. and going by what ever you have written so far. i am afraid you seem to been brought up in an abusive, deceitful environment...
how many muslim women have the freedom to follow their hearts? if they did, they would be killed as can be seen from so many news reports..
so, shove your circumscized dick up your ass (i can be uncivilized too)..by the way why did allah create you with foreskin if he wanted you to be circumscized? and why does he have to uncircumscize you in heaven?
why would your god offer bribes for converting people to islam? shouldn't all be born into islam?
how is a muslim on poles supposed to eat during ramadan?
should men not also wear hijab in order that women not be aroused by looking at them so that women can focus on the men's brain instead of his looks and body??
why did Allah create pigs if he thought pigs are unclean?
looking forward to a logically sound answers instead of your usual crap..
I think AMIM have seen some
I think AMIM have seen some truth here and it is eating her out. Hence the bile that she is spewing out. It is a reaction to the dose of truth.
She is to be most pitied as she can never go back to that blissful innocent state of the ignorant. As in the words of Virginia Wolfe, "You can never go back home." Peace has gone out of her. The Truth of this Site will continue to eat in her until she accepts it. Only then will she find peace and rest.
This is the reason why Islam is against women being literate. It will be hard to control them once they are educated. Especially now with the availability of the internet, all manner of knowledge is opened to them.
Viva la Internet! - It will bring Islam down!!
Can you feel it AMIM? That worm of knowledge and the light of wisdom is working in you. That is the reason why you are feeling upset. Don't blame the jinns; they are not involved.
Btw, to help you out of your islamic prison of the fear of hell: Know this, that the firy flames of hell have been fully extinguished! There is no Hell. Why? One of the reasons is, Our loving Father in heaven is not a cruel God who will punish infinately for finite sins. If no eathly father will do that to any of his children, no matter how bad they behave, how much more so, our heavenly father will never do that to any of his children. Evil men will never be resurected. God will just forget about them - not torture them eternally in a firy hell. And I can prove it too from the verses of the Bible.
$1 Trillion Reward to
$1 Trillion Reward to Christians If They Can Prove That Jesus Said "I am God", Or "Worship Me".
A-MIM, you might distribute
A-MIM,
you might distribute that trillion dollar award to the poor in somalia and darfur whoa are being butchered by the muslims in the cause of allah..
by the way, please explain why muslim men have tits? why did allah create men with nipples ?
to A-MIM your quotes from The
to A-MIM
your quotes from The Bible on cannibalism forget to mention 'who was writing about whom'. those words were from a God condemning those who had gone corrupt. HE WAS NOT RECOMMENDING CANNIBALISM, just highlighting that such behaviour comes from those who leave him!
A-MIM Don`t you think you
A-MIM
Don`t you think you need to go to a christian site for a wider audience to your offer?
A-MIM xxxxx xxxxxxxx You
A-MIM
xxxxx xxxxxxxx
You mean you have gone around asking these girls on their preference of kinda penis! Such a brazen luccha you are.
xxxxxxxx Beard Monkey, you don`t know parts of a regular woman, and what % is vagina? Such a jhatoo koran-xxxx creature you are.
And you post rewards for christians at this predominantly islamic site, such a confirmed chutia you are.
In true "xxxxxx" tradition of your xxxx-xxxx rasul-lulla, your baap must be doing with your wife. Run from here, you beard-monkey!
A Mim Most readers here are
A Mim
Most readers here are probably secularists or free thinkers. Let me suggest you go to "Answering Islam" site for your jargon. I am sure they'll "parade" you there. You'll be a "gold find" for them.. Who knows, you may to be able to make them "see the light"...Enjoy the ride. Here we like to objectively study Islam. "Preaching" our beliefs here is not the right place for it. This site is about Islam and Islam alone.
quoting from OT will not save
quoting from OT will not save your paedophile profits arse.Christians dont follow OT.Its very contextual or historic deed at times.Its the history of jewish people and the laws are only for the jewish tribe.
Also Remenmber jews were never expansionist Like Mohammedan Khaliphs or Paedophile Mohammed.
Even with this you cant see a single Paedophile Prophet in OT.
Even for arguent sake we think jews are to follow the laws of old testament, we could see that jews are much more educated and civilized than Paedophile followers who are still still stuck in 7 th century with Paedophile Mohammad.
Remember Unlike any Prophet Paedophile mohammed is the last profit and Mohammednas are to emulate his Sunnah as the best man ever lived .
thats is the problem with Islam still stuck up.
Following Paedophiles prophet they are still marry off children at the age of 8 in Iran and Saudi and many other mohammedan Countries.Following Mohammed they justify terorism , Because Paedophile Mohammed the Last profit was a terorist.
Ok Lets have short comparison
Ok Lets have short comparison Of Jesus and profit Mohammed
Stoning in Islam Sanctioned By mohammed
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According to Hadith Sahih
Volume 2, Book 23, Number 413:
Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar :
The Jew brought to the Prophet a man and a woman from amongst them who have committed (adultery) illegal sexual intercourse. He ordered both of them to be stoned (to death), near the place of offering the funeral prayers beside the mosque."
Volume 3, Book 34, Number 421:
Narrated 'Aisha:
Sad bin Abi Waqqas and 'Abu bin Zam'a quarreled over a boy. Sad said, "O Allah's Apostle! This boy is the son of my brother ('Utba bin Abi Waqqas) who took a promise from me that I would take him as he was his (illegal) son. Look at him and see whom he resembles." 'Abu bin Zam'a said, "O Allah's Apostle! This is my brother and was born on my father's bed from his slave-girl." Allah's Apostle cast a look at the boy and found definite resemblance to 'Utba and then said, "The boy is for you, O 'Abu bin Zam'a. The child goes to the owner of the bed and the adulterer gets nothing but the stones (despair, i.e. to be stoned to death). Then the Prophet said, "O Sauda bint Zama! Screen yourself from this boy." So, Sauda never saw him again.
Volume 3, Book 49, Number 860:
Narrated Abu Huraira and Zaid bin Khalid Al-Juhani:
A bedouin came and said, "O Allah's Apostle! Judge between us according to Allah's Laws." His opponent got up and said, "He is right. Judge between us according to Allah's Laws." The bedouin said, "My son was a laborer working for this man, and he committed illegal sexual intercourse with his wife. The people told me that my son should be stoned to death; so, in lieu of that, I paid a ransom of one hundred sheep and a slave girl to save my son. Then I asked the learned scholars who said, "Your son has to be lashed one-hundred lashes and has to be exiled for one year." The Prophet said, "No doubt I will judge between you according to Allah's Laws. The slave-girl and the sheep are to go back to you, and your son will get a hundred lashes and one year exile." He then addressed somebody, "O Unais! go to the wife of this (man) and stone her to death" So, Unais went and stoned her to death.
And Jesus
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“And early in the morning, He came again into the Temple, and all the people were coming to
Him, and He sat down and began to teach them. And the scribes and the Pharisees brought a
woman caught in adultery, and having set her in the midst, they said to Him, ‘Teacher, this
woman has been caught in adultery, in the very act. Now in the Law, Moses commanded us to
stone such women; what then do You say?’ And they were saying this, testing Him, in order that
they might have grounds for accusing Him. But Jesus stooped down, and with His finger wrote
on the ground. But when they persisted in asking Him, He straightened up and said to them, ‘He
who is without sin among you, let him be the first to throw a stone at her.’ And again He
stooped down and wrote on the ground. And when they heard it, they began to go out one by
one ... beginning with the older ones.. And He was left alone, and the woman where she had been
in the midst. And straightening up Jesus said to her, ‘Woman, where are they? Did no one
condemn you?’ And she said, ‘No one, Lord,’ Jesus said, ‘Neither do I condemn you; go your
way; from now on, sin no more’” (Jn 8:2-11)
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Leprosy
Paedophile Mohammed
How to treat Lepers according to mo hammed
Medicine
Bukhari :: Book 7 :: Volume 71 :: Hadith 608
Narrated Abu Huraira:
Allah's Apostle said, '(There is) no 'Adwa (no contagious disease is conveyed without Allah's permission). nor is there any bad omen (from birds), nor is there any Hamah, nor is there any bad omen in the month of Safar, and one should run away from the leper as one runs away from a lion ''
And Jesus touching the leper
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And a leper came to him, imploring him, and kneeling said to him, "If you will, you can make me clean." Moved with pity, he stretched out his hand and touched him and said to him, "I will; be clean." And immediately the leprosy left him, and he was made clean. And Jesus sternly charged him and sent him away at once, and said to him, "See that you say nothing to anyone, but go, show yourself to the priest and offer for your cleansing what Moses commanded, for a proof to them." But he went out and began to talk freely about it, and to spread the news, so that Jesus could no longer openly enter a town, but was out in desolate places, and people were coming to him from every quarter. Mark 1:40 –45, ESV
It might come as a shock to
It might come as a shock to you infidels, but sometimes I agree with Islam. Yes, I agree that Islam means SURRENDER or SUBMISSION.
All infidels must SUBMIT to Islam, or pay the jizya tax. If you become an apostate and reject Islam, you must SUBMIT to crucifixion or be stoned to death. All women in Islam must SUBMIT and accept second or third class citizenship, or else. When a macho Muslim chauvinist says three times to one of his wives, "I divorce you," the ex-wife must SUBMIT and accept it, and then slink away in humiliation. This pleases Allah, the Merciful the Compassionate.
Women must SUBMIT and cover their whole bodies in ugly Muslim rags. That will help depraved Muslim perverts from being tempted with unbridled carnal desires. You infidels know how it is with Muslim perverts, always thinking about those 72 virgins and 28 prepubescent boys with pearly eyes and all that other Muslim pig shit. Remember, it's the woman's fault if she exposes her ankle and gets raped, as a result, by Muslim perverts. If the woman is raped, she must SUBMIT and get stoned to death for adultery unless she can produce four Muslim males to testify that she was raped by all the male Muslim perverts hanging around like dogs in heat. This pleases Allah The Merciful, The Compassionate.
Women must SUBMIT and admit that Muslim males are superior in intelligence. No exceptions since the prophet, diaper chaser Muhammad has spoken. Nine year old little girls must SUBMIT to depraved, long-bearded Muslim perverts and "marry" them. And then the little female child must SUBMIT to the old depraved Muslim pervert so that he can consummate his Islamic ritual even though it's against the child's will. The Muslim pervert, being real macho, isn't affected by the child's tears, sobs, and sometimes screams, and protestations. The child SUBMITS or else. Since it was a "legal" marriage, the child had to SUBMIT and spread her little legs. How else could the Muslim male pervert fulfill his Islamic duty? This pleases Allah, The Merciful, The Compassionate. The modern Muslim perverts learned this ritual from Diaper Chaser Muhammad, who raped Aisha on her ninth birthday. Aisha, too, had to SUBMIT and get raped. Since Paedophile, Child Molester, Diaper Chaser Muhammad raped a little girl, modern Muslim male perverts took it to heart. So they also have this "holy" Islamic right. That's what makes The Religion of Peace a beautiful and holy religion. It please Allah, The Merciful, the Compassionate.
Wives must also SUBMIT to the whims of their husbands. If they don't SUBMIT, the husband has the right to beat the hell out of her. Because of fear, the wives usually SUBMIT. Concubines must also SUBMIT to married Muslim male perverts, who are always in heat. This pleases Allah, The Merciful, The Compassionate, the god of The Religion of Peace.
Infidels must SUBMIT to the superior Muslims. If you recall, "Muslims are the best of people." You find this information in The Muslim War Manual, sometimes called the Qur'an. If infidels don't SUBMIT to the superior Muslims, the superior Muslims have the right to kill the infidel. This is also found in The Muslim War Manual.
A little girl must SUBMIT and have her clitoris chopped off. This will keep the child pure. It's also done to please Allah, The Merciful, The Compassionate. The God of the Christians and Jews giveth, the god Allah/Satan, god of the Muslims, chops away. In a civilized country, chopping off a clitoris a la Islam is called "female genital mutilation." It's also called very cruel and inhumane in the civilized world. Muslims don't understand when infidels protest. This sacrament FGM really pleases the blood-thirsty Allah, The Merciful, The Compassionate, also the god of hatred, the god of pain, the god of cruelty, the god of hypocrisy, the god of untimely death and destruction, the god of the dreaded evil Muslims.
If a poor Muslim is caught stealing a piece of bread, he must SUBMIT to have his hand chopped off. If he steals a piece of bread again, he must SUBMIT and have his other hand chopped off, and one foot. If the poor man is caught again stealing a piece of bread, the poor man SUBMITS and has his other foot chopped off and his eyes gouged out. This pleases Allah, The Merciful, The Compassionate, who sees all.
If a girl is raped by a bunch of Muslim savages, she must SUBMIT to at least 100 lashes. If the raped victim talks to the Muslim judge and protests, she must now SUBMIT to 200 lashes. If the female rape victim goes too far and continues protesting, she might have to SUBMIT and be stoned to death. This pleases Allah, The Merciful, The Compassionate, who sees all. Gays must SUBMIT and be hanged by the neck until dead. If Gays had played their cards right, they could have gone to Muslim paradise and received 28 prepubescent boys with pearly eyes, and all that other Muslim pig shit. Hanging gays keeps The Religion Of Peace pure, and it pleases Allah, The Merciful, The Compassionate who sees all.
If daughters don't wear a Muslim rag on their heads, the daughters have to SUBMIT and be murdered by fathers, brothers, or maybe uncles. This is called honor killing in the Muslim backward countries. If Muslim daughters are caught talking to an infidel boy friend, she must SUBMIT and be murdered by a father, brother or maybe an uncle. This is done to protect the family's good name. It's also done to please Allah, The Merciful, The Compassionte. Honor comes first in the Muslim family. Honor is worth more than life itself in the perfect religion of peace. Yes, Islam means SURRENDER or SUBMISSION.
P.S. The reason atheistic Nazis and Muslims got along in the 30's and 40's of the last century is because they had the same boss--SATAN. I'll bet the atheist Mao Tze Tung would also have gotten along just fine Muslims. Yes, they had the same boss.
P.P.S. I was told that I should be more mature when I write. I'm here biting by nails and hoping that I passed the test. But then I'm wondering, did he mean "sordid" as in "mature entertainment"? I know I could pass that one with flying colors.
Ibrahim, the Muslims are
Ibrahim, the Muslims are experts in deception because they were taught by Allah, the god of deception. If I recall correctly, Allah, in one his titles, is called THE BEST DECEIVER.
Make no mistake, ISLAM IS NUMBER ONE WHEN IT COMES TO EVIL. EVIL MUSLIMS ARE DAMN GOOD IN EVERYTHING WHEN IT COMES TO EVIL. Don't you ever forget that. Did you know that Diaper Chaser Muhammad broke every one of THE TEN COMMANDMENTS every day? EVERY DAY!!!
Philip, you have cracked the
Philip,
you have cracked the test.. ;-)
Islam is evil and therefore muslims have become evil. Take islam away from muslims and i best they will be the best of people you come across. but taking islam away from muslims is an uphill task..
but going by exponential laws, we should be able to cover a big chunk of muslim population in a short period of time.. say 3 years.. if a significant chunk of people start giving up islam, then it will kind of turn into mass movement.. because let us not forget it.. we humans mostly have herd mentality .. the same reason why people started following islam will lead to its destruction..
That's telling 'im, focussed.
That's telling 'im, focussed. That was a good round. You won big on points. Keep up the good work.
Let's hope that everyone stays away from religions except the Islamic religion.
That reminds me. If I introduce this challenge, maybe atheists will be discouraged from arguing about religion. Okay, my atheist friends. Here is the challenge: If by chance you think matter came into being all of a sudden, prove it to us. If by chance you don't believe that matter came into being, that matter is eternal, then prove that challenge to us. If you can't prove one of my challenges, then, dammit stay away from religion, especially mine. Okay? It takes volumes to explain my religion, although it is simple in a way. So please don't tempt me. If you do, you will take me away from the contest that I have going against ISLAM. We must destroy ISLAM before it destroys us and rapes our little children and grandchildren. STAY THE COURSE DAMMIT. LET'S DESTROY ISLAM FIRST, AND THEN I'LL DISCUSS THEOLOGY WITH YOU.
DON'T FORGET MY CHANLLENGE ABOVE BEFORE YOU DISCUSS RELIGION ON THIS SITE. OKAY? May the CAUSE of all causes bless you.
focussed, I was referring to
focussed, I was referring to # 20 when I wrote # 42. Thanks.
Philip, If you don't keep
Philip,
If you don't keep your challenges to yourself before we remove islam from muslims, we might not be there to discuss theology.. anyway if you want to discuss theology mail me at mo_ham_mad at opermail.com,
it is operamail.com
it is operamail.com
"39. Philip Saenz Says: It
"39. Philip Saenz Says:
It might come as a shock to you infidels, but sometimes I agree with Islam. Yes, I agree that Islam means SURRENDER or SUBMISSION."
I agree with you Philip except it is not "or" but "and" as in:
Islam means SURRENDER and SUBMISSION.
Once muslims SURRENDERed their logic(read brain), then they will do the "and SUBMISSION" part.
Question is "How the heck do you keep surrendering and submitting when in the 21st century there is no escaping knowledge and wisdom?"
Everywhere you go, knowledge and wisdom smacks you right in the face.
Ahh...but the devilish muslims have a solution!
Anyway they can, they will turn back the clock to the 7th century!
And finally, when they have fully susceeded as in Afganistan under the Talibans, then CONGRATULATIONS! - they have ARRIVED!!!
Cheers
"31. A-MIM Says: January
"31. A-MIM Says:
January 28th, 2009 at 6:14 pm
$1 Trillion Reward to Christians If They Can Prove That Jesus Said “I am God”, Or “Worship Me”.
Ok A-MIM, I accept your challange.
Please register (if u r not already) and log into the english forum.
Go to the exclusive debate rooms area (where then no others can post except you and me) and set up a thread there for your challange inviting me to debate.
(since it is your challange).
Or if you like, I can set up the thread.
Are you game enough for it?
Awaiting your positive reply, thank-you.
Biblical Jesus vs. Qur'anic
Biblical Jesus vs. Qur'anic Muhammad
Evil minded Christian Missionaries are prone to attack The Final Prophet of God using the good image of the Qur'anic Jesus and couple of Biblical verses (ex: love thy neighbor, love your enemy, blah blah blah). Let's see whether their hateful attack against Prophet Muhammad has any logical and rational value at all.
NB: Christians believe that Biblical Jesus is the Creator of the universe (i.e. God) in human form, and both the Old Testament and the New Testament to be the inspired word of Biblical Jesus. That means the Creator of the universe was born as a man (not woman!) and he was eventually killed by his enemies! Think about their stupid belief about the Creator of the universe for a moment! Even school kids would laugh at them! That's why they are jealous of Islam!
PS: Muslims do not distinguish between the Prophets as it is forbidden in the Qur'an (3:84). This is just a response to the evil minded Christian Missionaries' hatred and propaganda against the Final Prophet.
Here we go:
- Biblical Jesus came to send sword and violence, and not peace! So, he was a terrorist! (Matthew 10:34, Luke 12:51)
- Biblical Jesus came to divide humankinds! (Luke 12:51-53, Matthew 10:35, 10:21)
- Biblical Jesus allowed his disciple to struck a servant of the high priest's and smote off his ear! (Matthew 26:51)
- Biblical Jesus wants people to hate their father, mother, wife, daughters, sisters, etc. to be his disciples! (Luke 14:26)
- Biblical Jesus instructed his disciples to slay and burn the unbelievers and disobedient people! (Luke 19:27, John 15:6)
- Biblical Jesus ordained killing the apostates, idolaters, and blasphemers! (Deuteronomy 13:6-9, Deuteronomy 17:3-5)
- Biblical Jesus condemned all non-Jews to death for not worshiping him! (2 Chronicles 15:13)
- Biblical Jesus condoned unjust honor killing! (Matthew 15:4, Leviticus 21:9, Genesis 38:24)
- Biblical Jesus vehemently condemned atheists! (Psalms 14:1-3)
- Biblical Jesus allowed the killing of innocent people, women, and children! (Ezekiel 9:5-7; Numbers 31:17-18; 1 Samuel 15:3, 29:5; Deuteronomy 20:13-14, 2:32-37, 3:1-7, 7:1-6, 13:6-18, 21:18-22, 22:25-29, 23:1-4, 25:1-3, 28:15-68; Joshua 2:8-21, 8:23-29, 10:28-43; Judges 1:21-35, 21:10-24; Matthew 2:16; Exodus 32:27)
- Biblical Jesus instructed his disciples to kill all except virgins for themselves! (Numbers 31:17-18)
- Biblical Jesus said that Eve was created from Adam's rib! (Genesis 2:22)
- Biblical Jesus said that man was not created for woman, but woman for man! (1 Corinthians 11:8-9)
- Biblical Jesus said that wives should submit to their husbands! (Ephesians 5:22)
- Biblical Jesus said that Eve was deceived, and not Adam! (1 Timothy 2:14, Genesis 3:12-15)
- Biblical Jesus said that pregnancy and childbirth is a kind of curse or punishment! (Genesis 3:16)
- Biblical Jesus said that man is the image and glory of God, woman is the glory of man! (1 Corinthians 11:7)
- Biblical Jesus said that female birth gets penalty! (Leviticus 12:2-5)
- Biblical Jesus said that women must keep silent in Churches. It's shameful for them to open their mouths therein. They should learn in silence from their husbands with all subjugation. They should not teach, and they are not permitted to have authority over men! (1 Corinthians 14:34-35, 1 Timothy 2:11-12)
- Biblical Jesus said that daughters inherit nothing when there is son! (Numbers 27:8)
- Biblical Jesus condemned women, children, infants, and animals to death! (1 Samuel 15:3, Leviticus 20:15-16, Exodus 29:16-18)
- Biblical Jesus considered menstrual women to be untouchable! (Leviticus 15:19-30, 18:19)
- Biblical Jesus instructs you to cut off your wife's hand unjustly! (Deuteronomy 25:11-12)
- Biblical Jesus said that rape victim shall marry the rapist and must be with him for all days! (Deuteronomy 22:28-29)
- Biblical Jesus said that divorced woman cannot remarry! (Matthew 5:32, Mark 10:11-12)
- Biblical Jesus considered women like sexual object! (Matthew 5:27-28)
- Biblical Jesus said that woman worth less than man! (Leviticus 27:3-4)
- Biblical Jesus said that witches must be put to death! (Exodus 22:18-20)
- Biblical Jesus imposed strict dress code including head covering on women! (1 Timothy 2:9, 1 Corinthians 11:5-6, 11:13)
- Biblical Jesus allowed Solomon to have seven hundred wives and three hundred concubines and David to have multiple wives! (1 Kings 11:3, 2 Samuel 5:13, Deuteronomy 21:15-17, Exodus 21:10)
- Biblical Jesus allowed cannibalism! (2 Kings 6:29, Leviticus 26:29, Jeremiah 19:9, Lamentations 4:10, Ezekiel 5:10, Deuteronomy 28:53)
- Biblical Jesus condoned slavery! (Leviticus 25:44-46, Exodus 21:7-11, Exodus 21:20-21)
- Biblical Jesus said that slaves should submit to their masters, even masters who are harsh! (1 Peter 2:18, Ephesians 6:5, 1 Timothy 6:1-2)
- Biblical Jesus said that disobedient slaves should be severely punished! (Luke 12:47-48)
- Biblical Jesus ordered stoning to death for adultery! (Deuteronomy 22:22-24)
- Biblical Jesus said that gay and lesbian must be put to death! (Leviticus 20:13)
- Biblical Jesus said that whoever does any work on the Sabbath day must be put to death! (Exodus 31:14-15)
The list may go on and on. So, using Christian Missionaries' logic and the above facts, it can be concluded with no doubt that Qur'anic Muhammad was much better than and superior to Biblical Jesus. The evidences are the Qur'an and the Bible. Shouldn't they be ashamed of their Lord Savior then!
Whatever Mohammedan . Now you
Whatever Mohammedan . Now you have to agree that Pimp Allah has nothing to do with the God of christians and Jews.Neither Did we have Womeniser-paedophle,rapist Profit Like Mohammed Scumbag
Almost all the verses above are from OT.And some of them are misquoted like Cannibalism that shows how pathetic Mohammedan logic.
The Point is that Jesus reversed the Laws Of Moses but Paedophile Mohammad Plagiarized From OT ,thus approved of stoning,cutting and chopping
Mohammedan logic
Bible is corrupt
Why ?
Allah said
who is Allah ?
Mohammad said Allah is god and He is last prophet
Who Is Mohammad ?
an Illiterate ,Paedophile caravan Raider,rapist who claimed to be last profit
Any proof for prophesy?
Allah said so....
who is Allah and did any one see Allah?
No but Mohammad saw him while flying to heaven on a she- donkey in a wet dream.
blah blah blah
Can we trust a child molester as last profit of hitherto unknown god Allah,?
yes because the child molester,rapist looter,scumbag,paedophile Mohammad said so
circular logic goes on.
Jesus vs Mohammed
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=GnStfMNfdMI
To the ape monkey A-MIM.
To the ape monkey A-MIM. Thanks but no thanks, the strangle-hold iron-grip that Christianity had on politics was the stuff of Middle Age European HIstory. Unfortunately for you, Izlam, a backward 7th century totalitarian fascist cult still lives on in states like Saudi Arabia, where Izlamic principles are enshrined in the constitution.
Do some research you brainless hamdog.