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Printer-friendly versionSend to friendPDF versionFrom: N. N. To: faithfreedom2@gmail.com Cc: faithfreedom@gmail.com Date: May 9, 2006 12:06 PM First I am a Hindu and I was born and raised in India and moved to US 12 years ago. I have been a frequent visitor of your site and I agree with most of your views. However I have some disagreements which I will post later on. Please hide my identity in all ways for my safety and safety of my family. Below are the things I agree with you on and I tell the below from proof also as you regard proof, logic and truth as basis of any valid debate and I am like that too. So I add short examples at the end of each statement. - Muslims are idiots and violent and illogical, and that is because they are stuffed with these qualities since birth. And you can never win with wrong-illogical idiots. For example, if somebody tells you in broad daylight that it is night right now you can't talk to the person, talking to Muslims is similar. - Muslims can never live in Peace with anybody. If they are minority then they are problem of majority and if they are Majority then only God(or you may call it truth) may help minorities.(England, India, China, Russia, USA………) - If they are minorities then they can't be expected to be loyal to their country but only to Islam and they will bomb their own countries in name of Islam.(England, France, Denmark, India, USA etc.) Although I have to say there are many loyal Muslims too, however disloyalty I mentioned above is common denominator across many countries. - And India has been biggest victim of Islamic violence.{For example, Indian badshah(King) Akbar was called the great but he the best Muslims king of India himself killed so many Hindus because they would not convert to Islam, and I don’t even want to talk about rest of the Muslim kings} So I agree with most of your points and for the existence of your site. However, I can't comment on Islam as religion, Koran as their book and Allah, why? Because I don’t have much knowledge on this subjects. Anybody can say anything they want as it is freedom of speech but sensible speaking is use of this great right and everything else is misuse and intelligent always use not misuse. I do agree with your right to speak on Islam and Koran and Allah and you might be right about it as you have more knowledge on this subjects but I can't as I don’t. However, below are the things I disagree with you on as I do have knowledge on them so here they go. - You claim that you are invincible in argument because you only speak what can be logically proven. Because you mean to say that anything that can be proven is correct and since you only say things that can be logically proven they are correct and so you are invincible.(you said this in debate with Hamza Tetris) Anyway, you are wrong because 1) Logic is not always correct, for example, if you eat candy for ten days and your teeth will go bad then if you eat candy for one day then you teeth should go 1/10th as bad logically, right? Wrong because if you eat candy one day then your teeth will not go bad. So logic is not always correct. So you might want to add truth and logic together for becoming invincible, yes truth and logic together make you invincible. I still don’t believe humans are invincible and if they are they will never say it and 2) As soon as you say you are invincible you are evincible. Why? Because right and logical person never says that. Just so that my point is down your alley give example of Islam. Islam believes Islam is the only right religion and only word of God and everything else is false. Just this belief of Islam or Muslims is causing so much trouble for the world then how can your belief that you are invincible correct? I say this in philosophical terms, in practical terms it is arrogance and when you are arrogant than you are not leaving any room for Muslims to argue with you. As an arrogant person will never accept truth that goes against his belief, it is like a Muslim is arguing with you. Attitude is very important in truthful debate and when you talk about subject this big your attitude has to be truthful. A person who leads truth is always truthful and logical and if you wan to prove Islam wrong and want people to believe you then first you should be truthful because otherwise you are leading another cult like Islam. And atleast you wont be convincing me that Islam is wrong religion and although I am not your target I still think truth is very important. - You also said in debate with Hamza tetris that "Those Arabic poets were either getting paid or they were ignorant like Gandhi." Please tell me how Gandhi was ignorant. I mean don’t get me wrong I disagree with lots of things Gandhi did but then he was not ignorant and it is possible he might have said to appease Muslims but than I want you to prove that Gandhi was ignorant on this subject. This is one of the reason why I wrote and didn’t send the following mail as Gandhi says one thing and you say the other so who am I to believe? I mean Gandhi was great personality and you are not yet. So out of fear that I could be wrong I didn’t send the following mail. Like you I dare to doubt and I still doubt about saying anything about major religion as it is your word against Gandhi and so many greats. - Either prove me wrong or acknowledge the above on your site for your whole purpose of this site to be true or at least I won't be visiting this site as I will be considering it all false and your personal hate towards Islam and muslims for something terrible happened to you. And if it is your personal thing then you are wrong again as Hindus might have caused harm to Muslims that does not make Islam a wrong religoin, Christians might have caused harm to others that does not make christianity a wrong religion. Anyway wait to hear from you and if you think I am right I really need you to accept it beause truthfull person will always accept what is truth even if it means he/she is wrong. As a matter of fact accepting when you are wrong is bigger truth then speaking truth itself because when you accept truth you have won over your ego and that is biggest of all truth as us Humans, because at the end of the day it is all about "I". We can keep talking on many more truthfull subjects but only if my respect for you continues and it will happen if you accecpt what I said as truth or prove me wrong and I will accept it. Note: Please do not post the following mail untill we get the above resolved. [color=purple] [Appended Email not posted because N.N. never replied and "resolve" the above] N. N. :, Gandhi said: I wanted to know the best of the life of one who holds today an undisputed sway over the hearts of millions of mankind.... I became more than ever convinced that it was not the sword that won a place for Islam in those days in the scheme of life. It was the rigid simplicity, the utter self-effacement of the Prophet the scrupulous regard for pledges, his intense devotion to his friends and followers, his intrepidity, his fearlessness, his absolute trust in God and in his own mission. These and not the sword carried everything before them and surmounted every obstacle. When I closed the second volume (of the Prophet's biography), I was sorry there was not more for me to read of that great life. Mahatma Gandhi, statement published in 'Young India,'1924: The challange that AliSina poses to the muslims is: I accuse Muhammad of being: a rapist a pedophile (had sex with a child) an assassin a mass murderer a ruthless torturer a terrorist (I have been made victorious through terror) a lecher a misogynist a narcissist a thief and plunderer a cult leader a mentally deranged The man Gandhi is protraying and the man AliSina wants muslims to disprove and so far none have been able to, appear to be quite different; you may want to read AliSinas writings to decide for yourself. You can decide for yourself whether Gandhi was ignorant or appeasing or what. Gandhi is not the real concern of the website, but reaching out to muslims is. Doubtless[/color]