Nehru or Jinnah: Who Divided India?
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PDF version‘We shall have India divided or we shall have India destroyed.’This is what Jinnah said in the course of India’s independence. And it indeed became a reality. There was uproar in Indian on Thursday, August 19, over former Indian foreign minister Jaswant Singh’s expulsion from the nationalist Bharatiya Janata Party, because his new book holds Jawaharlal Nehru, India’s first Prime Minister and freedom struggle icon, responsible for India’s partition in 1947, while praising Jinnah on the issue. While Singh’s sacking is a different matter, but Jinnah’s above statement, which turned the reality, simply means that Singh shifted the blame for the partition from Jinnah’s shoulder to Nehru’s. The partition of India had been decided at least in 1930, when Muhammad Iqbal, Pakistan’s spiritual and ideological father, zealously preached in his Presidential Address at the All India Muslim League Meet in Allahabad that ‘The religious ideal of Islam, therefore, is organically related to the social order which it has created. The rejection of the one will eventually involve the rejection of the other’, and then went on two propose the Two Nation theory: ‘I would like to see the Punjab, North-West Frontier Province, Sind and Baluchistan amalgamated into a single state… the formation of a consolidated Northwest Indian Muslim state appears to me to be the final destiny of the Muslims, at least of Northwest India.’ And of course, with the Muslim League’s adoption of ‘Pakistan Resolution’ at Lahore in 1940, it had been sealed; it was only about time. Any further attempts to keep India united by Hindus and a handful of nationalist Muslim leaders (Abul Kalam Azad and Fazlul Haq etc.) were destined to failure. Singh’s thesis is based on the argument of Maulana Azad, India’s first Education Minister, who, in his book, “India Wins Freedom”, argued that the partition could have been avoided had Jawaharlal Nehru and Sardar Patel shown some flexibility over the Cabinet Mission plan. According to Singh, ‘Nehru believed in a highly centralised polity. That’s what he wanted India to be. Jinnah wanted a federal polity. That even Gandhi accepted. Nehru didn’t. Consistently, he stood in the way of a federal India until 1947 when it became a partitioned India.’ Jinnah was leading the separatist movement as early as 1937, when Iqbal wrote to him: ‘Why should not the Muslims of North-West India and Bengal be considered as nations entitled to self-determination just as other nations in India and outside India are.’ This, according to Iqbal, was need for saving ‘Muslims from the domination of Non-Muslims’. Just before his death in 1938, Iqbal urged that ‘Muslims should strengthen Jinnah’s hands’ for achieving Pakistan, adding: ‘People say our demands smack of communalism. This is sheer propaganda. These demands relate to the defence of our national existence.’ Efforts to keep India united, continued nonetheless. The 1946 British Cabinet Mission to India released a plan on May 16, calling for a united India, comprising considerably autonomous provinces, formed on the basis of religion. The Congress initially rejected the plan, and the British Mission to release a second plan on June 16, calling for the Partition along religious lines. Jinnah, hoping that power would go only to the party that supported the plan, gave the League’s assent to both plans. But the Congress, eventually, accepted the May 16 proposal, rejecting the other, thus, spoiling Jinnah’s hope of grabbing all the power. Disappointed for failing to grab all power, Jinnah reluctantly negotiated the formation of an interim government for federalist India. Advised by Jinnah, the British Mission first proposed formation of an interim government having equal number of Hindu and Muslim representatives. Muslims, being only about 20% of the population to 75% Hindus, the Congress objected to this arrangement, but agreed to a 12-member cabinet having 6 Hindu, 5 Muslim and another representative from remaining religious groups. However undemocratic, this was a jolly-good deal of Muslims, but Jinnah, who had hoped for all power, would not accede to anything less than 50% Muslim representation, which fitted well with Muslim League’s propaganda that ‘One Muslim should get the right of five Hindus’. As the new proposal was supported by the British as well, Jinnah condemned the British negotiators of treachery, and quickly washed his hands off further negotiations. He called a Muslim League meet in Bombay on 29 July 1946. Its resolution said, ‘It has become abundantly clear that the Muslims of India would not rest with anything less than the immediate establishment of an independent and full sovereign State of Pakistan’ and urged upon the Muslim masses to undertake ‘Direct Action to achieve Pakistan and get rid of the present slavery under the British and contemplated future caste Hindu domination.’ When Jinnah was pressed on whether the Direct Action would be violent, he ominously replied: ‘I am not going to discuss ethics. We have a pistol and are in a position to use it.’ On his violent instigation, UK’s News Chronicle wrote: ‘…there can be no excuse for the wild language and abandonment of negotiations… Mr. Jinnah is totally wedded to complete intransigence, if, as now seems the case, he is really thirsting for a holy war.’ News Chronicle was prophetic concerning Jinnha’s thirst for “holy war”. There started the Direct Action on 16 August 1946 in Calcutta, the capital of Muslim-majority Bengal (53.4% Muslim), having a Muslim League government. Direct Action was a Jihad for Jinnah and his Muslim League, in the likeness of Prophet Muhammad’s stunning victory at Badr against a much stronger Meccan force; and Jinnah chose the date for Direct Action, coinciding with the day of Badr Jihad, 18th of Ramadan. A Muslim League propaganda pamphlet, read out in mosque sermons, said:
Muslims must remember that it was in Ramzam that the Quran was revealed. It was in Ramzan that the permission for Jehad was granted. It was in Ramzam that the battle of Badr, the first open conflict between Islam and Heathenism [i.e., idolatry, which equates Hinduism] was fought and won by 313 Muslims; and again it was in Ramzan that 10,000 under the Holy Prophet conquered Mecca and established the kingdom of Heaven and the commonwealth of Islam in Arabia. Muslim League is fortunate that it is starting its action in this holy month.
By the grace of God, we are ten cores [100 millions] in India but through our bad luck we have become slaves of the Hindus and the British. We are starting a Jehad in Your Name in this very month of Ramzan. Pray make us strong in body and mind—give Your helping hand in all out actions—make us victorious over the Kafers…And the rest is history. Excited by inflammatory speeches of Muslim League leaders, the Muslim mob, after the rally, attacked the innocent Hindus and other non-Muslims of Calcutta, unleashing horrible slaughter, rape and arson for one-and-a-half days, before the Hindus and Sikhs (two-third of the population in Calcutta) hit back in like manners. Some 5,000 were dead with ~43% Muslim victims in one count—not as pretty a success as Prophet Muhammad achieved at Badr. Nonetheless, this set off chain-reaction of violence from East Bengal to West Punjab leading to eventual partition in August 14-15, 1947. And until July 1947, violence was committed almost exclusively by Muslims, except in Bihar (Oct. 1946), where Hindus retaliated against Muslims, reacting to local Muslim instigations, and to their attacks and massacres of Hindus in Calcutta and East Bengal. Thereafter, the Sikhs and Hindus hit back in East Punjab, as the partition was eventually agreed upon. The rest we all know: massacre of up to two million (evenly divided between Muslims and non-Muslims), rapes of hundreds of thousands (mostly Hindu & Sikh women), forced conversion of millions of non-Muslims and displacement of some 20 million across the border. Concerning, who was responsible for the partition, enough evidence is presented above. Sri Aurobindo said, ‘The idea of two nationalities in India is only a new-fangled notion invented by Jinnah for his purposes and contrary to the facts’. Hindu Mahasabha leader, Syama Prasad Mookerjee, told the United Provinces Hindu Conference on October 8, 1944: ‘The sooner Mr. Jinnah understands that Pakistan in any form or shape will be resisted by Hindus and many others with the last drop of blood, the better for him…’ Nehru, for himself, was staunchly opposed to the partition, and blamed in his writings, wrongly and unequivocally, the British for forcing the partition upon the harmonious brotherhood (which never existed) of Hindus and Muslims. We have seen too many evidences of Jinnah’s campaign for the partition, but not a single statement, opposing it. As concerns Nehru’s lack of flexibility in forming the Interim Cabinet, it is absurd on the part of Azad and Singh to suggest that Nehru showed no flexibility. He had flexibility way to much by allowing 5 Muslim representatives in a cabinet of 12, when they deserved only 2. What Nehru didn’t do is to be ridiculously flexible. Even if Nehru did that, it was not going to be sustainable in popular democracy that India had proudly emerged as. The result would have been a recipe probably for greater horror, at a later. --- Fore more information on this issue, consult Justice GD Khosla’s “Stern Warning” and my “Islamic Jihad”.
mUSLIMS WHO INVADED iNDIA,
mUSLIMS WHO INVADED iNDIA, KILLED 80 MILLION HINDUS NOW CLAIM INDIA WAS STOLEN FROM pAKISTAN. THEY TEACH THEIR CHILDREN THIS MESS.
Imagine what would have
Imagine what would have happned to India if cabinet mission plan was accepted.
Two nations , Hindu and muslim forming a lose confedration. Fate will be same as that of Lebanon.
Sardar was first to grasp stupidity of this deal.. He hated the plan and siad it so.
Perfect recipie for yearas of blood shed and finally take over of Hindu India and as usual 100% cleanisng of minorities from muslim areas. This plan gave almost whole north India including Assam to Pakistan. All sikh places of worship would have gone to muslim majority state. Sikhs opposed this plan from day one.
This confederation would not have been able or willing to merge Princely states. Without consent of this 50-50 power sharing parliament, no action would have taken place. Muslim league would have worked as obstructionist organisation, not allowing to pass any laws. Hindu humamist/secul;arists would have accepted all demands of muslim majority regions.
No power sharing would have ever worked with obstinate Jinnah and his musli league.
Khan, your such a liar.
Khan, your such a liar. Anything to badmouth Islam.
Yes you idiot, Jinnah wanted more than 20% representation. Because in a Hindu controlled government Muslims world be oppressed. If you want proof look at Indian Muslims today. They have the worst jobs and lie in the worst conditions.
If Jinnah was power hungry then refute these 2 facts
1. Jinnah was offered the job of PRIME MINISTER of the entire India by Gandhi to avoid partition.
2. Jinnah knew he was going to die soon. He knew he would not live long enough to gain absolute power.
Nheru consented, predicting Pakistan would fold in 6 months.
Were still here.
And just for reference it wasn't just the 2 million Hindus and Sikhs massacred. It was in response to the 2 million Muslims massacred. This was done by India. Jinnah never wanted to split Punjab or Bengal. He called it moth-eaten Pakistan.
India has never been a nation. Joining the whole thing into 1 country never made sense. Even today, India is not united.
However, I dislike the
However, I dislike the partition of India, I feel whatever happened was for good. My assessment is that Hindus were week at the time of partition (being out of power for 1,000 years) and Muslims would have dominated them. Moreover liberal out look of Hindus would have resulted in more appeasement of Muslims making the United India ungovernable. I would call it a good riddance.
Division of India has resulted in division of Muslims into three different entities and they have grown week. It is the muslims who have suffered in Pakistan, India and Bangladesh in last 60 years and whereas Hindus have prospered during this time. Hindus have now started to think freely and I feel in time to come will dominate Muslims more.
Muslims have now become rudderless - they are confused lot. In India they dont know whom to support - their own Muslim brothers who are Jihadist or secular people (who are kafirs). I can vouch that on outside most support the secularist but deep inside they all have sympathies for Jihadist. In Pakistan - the situation is worst they dont like USA but are completely dependent on it. Even the bread they eat is courtsey USA. So they are against the one who feeds them. It is a pathetic situation to be in. For Bangladesh - less said the better.
I feel it that theory of Karma that is taking place - Muslims had bad intension and have committed grave sins and are suffering because of it and i dont see any hope of them coming out of it. I hope they keep on this downward swirl till Islam is extricated from the face of earth.
Faithfreedom - keep up the good work, Thanks for all the knowledge made available by you.
I am glad the stupid stooges
I am glad the stupid stooges of moslems the gandu and mehru duo did not force patel to accept the moslem demands.The gandu has already created enough problems by allowing the scum bag moslems to stay back if they wanted.We all would have been either killed or converted.The skunk moslems should be evaporated.
Jalal said- "If you want
Jalal said-
"If you want proof look at Indian Muslims today. They have the worst jobs and lie in the worst conditions."
But who is responsible for this scenario? Do you think in America, Europe and UK where no religious biased exist for immigrants talent muslims perform better than hindus or chinese [budhhist] ? If you think i is you are in self denial friend. Face the reality, Hindus are cut throat competitors and hard working in education and jobs.They perform better elsewhere. In India, I have never seen a muslim boy or girl securing within top 10 position of any competitive exams or even school classes. Who are responsible for this? Maximum muslim boys run after worst looking hindu girls of the class instead of concentrating on education. Muslimas are too shy and busy with hiding her hairs [refer to few days ago Bangalore head scarf incident and note that that girl is one of the worst performing student of the class and instead of studying hard she is busy making noises over wearing a religious head scarf in college?]
Wake up, forget religious rituals, be spiritual and take humanity as goal of life and invest more time in education and preparing yourself for 21st century's lifestyle.
Best of luck!
To: All ya'll Who Divided
To: All ya'll
Who Divided India?
I know, I know, It was prophet Muhammad!
Regards
Kabir
Hey presto The moslem skunks
Hey presto The moslem skunks stink and are not doing well in studies because of JOOS! The joos have made all the subjects very difficult to decipher and the hindoos and joos together have conspired to keep moslem skunks busy in sex and sex related matters and if only qrand was the only book to be read the moslem skunks would have beaten all the rest.
Jalal, You Say: Yes you
Jalal,
You Say: Yes you idiot, Jinnah wanted more than 20% representation. Because in a Hindu controlled government Muslims world be oppressed. If you want proof look at Indian Muslims today. They have the worst jobs and lie in the worst conditions
.
Me:
You should have done better analysis of the facts based on the unbiased sources.
You are a type of people who will eat beef and blame Hindus for your bad stomach.
In Hindu controlled India,
India has Six Muslim presidents and vice presidents and many central and state ministers.
India has Muslim scientists working in their Defense programs
There are also famous Muslim actors in Indian movie industry, because non muslims (Hindu) do not discriminate and like the people for their performance.
India has Muslims in software business (Azim Prem ji - Owner of Wipro well known industry)
List is very long……..
(It is very disappointing to see that India even after the Islamic division could give this much importance to Muslim. Above should not happen again as non Muslims in India should always remember that India is the only country in world which has divided because of Islam and true Muslims can not be loyal to non Muslim country)
Muslims in India prefers Islamic school over Government schools (free education, mostly Indians go to these schools) and private schools.
About Jinnah, he did nothing different what most of Muslim leader would do. We can see how separatist are demanding separate Islamic state from China, Thailand, Philippines etc and in future they would demand separate Islamic state out of Europe and America. Western world should not make the same mistake which India made in 1947 partition by allowing Muslims to live with non Muslim India after the partition.
Regarding Islamic State of Pakistan:
We should not even call it a country; it is simply another type of Kabila (tribal government) where no one is in real power. Following are the reason for my View:
1 Lying is in their blood whether it is common Paki or president of Pakistan. ( Ex President Musharaf denied pak involvement in Kargil through out the war and to prove his point Pak army even handed over Flt. Lt. Nachiketa to India). Now the same Ex President is trying to prove that it was well planned and it forced India to talk to Pakistan about Kashmir.
2 Their National heroes like Abdul Khadir Khan (The Smuggler) were charged with stealing technical documents (Gas centrifuge blueprints –sensitive to nuclear technology) in the Netherlands, but he and Pakistani government denies the charges. Later his own Paki government put him under house arrest for selling/smuggling the nuclear technology to other countries. National Heroes are the role model for the citizens to follow, but with such type of role model what else one would expect from Pakistanis.
3 This is the only country where Army general can send the democratically elected Prime Minister to jail, this is the only country where the same jailed prime minister along with other supporters can force the President to resign, this is the same country where President can suspend the judiciary for unknown reasons, their army is involved in killing the innocent converted Muslims in the name of war of terrorism and on the other hand have very deep relationship with terrorist organization like Taliban, LET, JEM and so on and helping them in planning the attacks on Nato forces.
4 This is the country which has got best terrorist training camps in the world and supplies them in regular basis to his neighboring countries and deep sea countries. When bomb blast and terrorist activities take place in other countries than become sympathetic by saying that we both are the victim of terrorism.
Pakistan is a great failure, nothing else.
Muslims like Jalal and
Muslims like Jalal and kabirlaw are one of the many hypocrats.
After british came, they opened many western education schools and colleges , hindus started studying, while muslims boycotted education. Still muslims give more damn about education and think jihad or doing petty things is good than becoming doctors or engineers. Pakistan could have done much better, but they started harassing helpless hindus there. The hindus decreased from 21 % to 1 % there. The muslims just lifted hindu girls from hindus.
In bangladesh they massacred hindus enmassed and looted.
Also its better that when pakistan becomes totally ruined and reject islam whether 10 years or 50 years then they will realizes there mistakes and should join with India.
Till then muslims are disloyal to humanity. Just see muhammed. Jews gave them shelter and allowed to live in there city yathrib, and what muhammed did. He killed there males, raped there women and took there hardworking money.
Muslims are same, you feed a muslim for many years free of cost and when day he will get chance will kill you. Just like snakes.
To kafir123 and PK Is that
To kafir123 and PK
Is that why Pakistan made Rana Bhagwandas (A Hindu) the Chief Justice of Pakistan (The highest lawyer in the land) when Iftikhar Chaudhry was ousted?
To kabirlaw, Just showing
To kabirlaw,
Just showing one or 2 examples doest show anything. Its a fact that hindus decreased from 21 % to less than 1 % in pakistan, 37 % to 8 % in bangladesh while in india muslims increased from 9 % to 17 %.
They do ethnic cleansing of hindus from kashmir, where thre presence is more than 5000 years old.
Due to foolish policies of nehru and gandhi, the complete transfer of hindu and muslim population shoulkd have been done. The muslims inside india are more problem than muslims outside in pakistan.
The world is waking up to muslim menace. The relegion of hatred and intolerance islam has to go out.
The whole indian subcontinent could have been a developed one if there would have been no Islam.
The pre islamic india was extremely rich and highly advanced place.
The muslims also respect force. In China they are systematically clearing uighur muslims where there % dropped from 95 % in 47 to 45 % now and still decreasing, while paki muslims are all praise for chinese, while they are ethnically same as indians want harm to india and collaborating with chinese. For chinese paki are just a slave. They have given pakis nuclear bombs and want then to hit india and let india hit paki, so that india is devasted and paki is wiped out of map, so that china will be boss of asia and then they will just walk to kashmir and take all kashmir.
Yes china also wants kashmir and they want paki as slaves to do the dirty work. Paki should know that there ancestors were hindus who were systematically abused , many killed and rest forced to be muslims from hindus. They are not arabs, they belonged to a superiors culture vedic culture. Muhammed was a thug and today pakistan is suffering is because of islam. Due to islam the more radical a person is , the more cruel he is , the best leader he can be. Pakistan doesnt have control of many areas where local warlords rule. The americans are maintaining pakistan army only, for a strategic reason.
You: Is that why PAKISTAN
You:
Is that why PAKISTAN MADE RANA BHAGWANDAS (A Hindu) the Chief Justice of Pakistan (The highest lawyer in the land) when Iftikhar Chaudhry was ousted?
Me:
Thanks for letting everyone know your long list of achievement in case of non Muslims (Hindu). Your statement is more than enough evidence to show how minorities are treated in Pakistan.
Judiciary is not a policy making post. Judge can only follow the guidelines set by law makers even they have to agree if it says that killing non Muslim is legal.
Indian never says that “India made a Muslim president” instead they say that India has a Muslim president, if you know what I mean.
Thanks again for letting everyone know.
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I'm glad to see this article
I'm glad to see this article here.
Despite many claims to the contrary the UK did not want a partitioned India. In this we were in step with both Nehru and Ghandi, with only Jinnah demanding a separate Muslim state.
Eventually, with both the threat and increasing practice of violence by the Muslims, partition was accepted by all sides, though I grant the UK 'led the charge' here.
Whether this was moral cowardice, appeasement, or simple pragmatism I will leave to others' judgement.
To be fair to Jinnah et al, I can understand their fear that Muslims would be oppressed in a Hundu-dominated state on several grounds:
1. The oppression of Hundus under the Moghuls is well known and they would have been fearful of retalition for that.
2. The Sharia dominated Islamic state is, by definition, oppressive to non-Muslims so they probably felt that a non-muslim state would enact reciprocal disciminatory laws.
3. They would have known that a united India would never have countenanced Sharia law and they would have considered this 'denial' as being 'oppressive' in nature., whereas a "pure" muslim land might - and various attempts have been made to 'Islamise' Pakistan's law over the years,
4. A united India would never have countenanced an all-muslim leadership - thus inverting what Jinnah and his supporters would see as the 'natural' order of things, again this would seem 'oppressive' to them.
The Koran itself tells Muslims not to live with non-muslims (K18:26, K3:28) so they probably felt themselves to be under a religious imperative to obtain a separate state.
What I also find interesting here, though slightly to one side of the articel is this:
1. India has remained a functioning (though arguably flawed) democracy ever since it's birth. Pakistan has alternated short-lived attempts at domocracy with Military Dictatorships or government, pock-marked by violent outbursts during coups etc.
2. India is now an "emerging economy". this puts it in the 'second league' of world economies and it will doubtless become a "developed economy" and economically join the "first world". Indeed india is likely to overtake many "first world" countries economically. Pakistan, on the other hand is very much a "third world" country.
My question is this: Why is this the case? What reasons are their that caused INdia to forge ahead whilst Pakistan at best remained static and, certainly in relative terms, slipped back?
Jalal you wrote: "Jinnah was offered the job of PRIME MINISTER of the entire India by Gandhi to avoid partition."
And this still wan't enough for him? I think you have proved Khan's case!
Did you read the article? Khan quite clearly writes: "... massacre of up to two million (evenly divided between Muslims and non-Muslims),..." thereby agreeing that it was not only Muslims who became violent.
However I do agree with you when you say: "Jinnah never wanted to split Punjab or Bengal. He called it moth-eaten Pakistan." You are quite right - he wanted the lot to be included in Pakistan.
Raman: I do agree with your points and the conclusion that in the end partition was probably for the best - at least for India which would not have made the progress it has if it had had to 'drag the dead weight' of Pakistan/Bangladesh with it.
Watchman and PK make excellent points.
Most muslims attend "Madrassah" schools, rather than secular ones. Unlike western "religious" schools where the faith provides an "ethos" but the curriculum is determined by the state, the Madrassahs (from what I've seen) are primarily concerned with teaching "Islam" of one sort or another (oftenSalafi/Wahhabi) rather than provding a full education.
If I am correct in this, then the Muslims are going to leave school less well educated than their non-muslim contemporaries (except in Islam of course!) and hence will be at an immediate disadvantage for jobs, careers, etc.
I don't have much sympathy since this is a 'self-inflicted injury' determined by the priorities of the community - though I also suspect that by now it has become a self-sustaining cycle of poor education and poverty.
Kabirlaw: I must admit I am surprised that Pakistan made a Hindu the Chief Justice, but one bright spot in Pakistan has always been the independance of its Judiciary, even if they are compelled to impliment unjust laws (eg the notorious "blasphemy" laws); so perhaps this is one area n Pakistan in which a non-muslim can excel.
That said, Bhagwandas joined the Judiciary during the rule of Ayub Khan - who is known as a secularist (at least by comparison to Jinnah and Haq for example) and I do wonder if he would have been allowed to enter the Judiciary in other times. It is also worth reminding you that constitutional petitions against him being a senior judge were lodged by Pakistanis with a less 'secular' attitude than Ayub Khan, though they were defeated by the judiciary - once again proving its independance.
Jalal I will address few
Jalal I will address few things you mentioned. Yes Gandhi offered Jinnah prime-ministership to keep India undivided. No, Patel and Nehru did not go along with that. That is why they are blamed by some responsible for dividing India. Secondly Hinduism is a multi God society tolerant of many Gods and religions. Islam is one God violent ideology intolerant of any other religion. Muslims are intolerant of each other leave alone other religions, daily suicide bombings to kill other muslims world wide speak for itself.When in minority they create trouble for the majority, when in majority they kill off the minority. The suffering and fast shrinking minorities in Pakistan is typical of islamists.
Islam is a curse on
Islam is a curse on humanity.They have been cutting each throats of non muslims and muslims themselves since inception.
Vienna,30-08-2009 Face facts.
Vienna,30-08-2009
Face facts. Jaswant Singh book is motivated.It has nothing to do except guiding Pakistan from
darkness to light! Let us see how he goes about his mission. On one thing I am happy at least.
His work will undermine Hindu political hooliganism in India.
i am an Indian striving to
i am an Indian striving to make my country a better place to live in . I am comfortable with my friends who belong to all religious communities. I am comfortable with their beliefs as much as they are with mine. there is space for each one of us to live in harmony. i think that is the core which keeps the Indian engine going. with all the threats, violent/ non violent, military and economic we have succeeded in running the gauntlet and are still got a long way to go. what happened 62 years ago is to be taken as fait accomplii. Pakistan is there- they will hate us as much as other neighbors hate their big brother-India. we shall over come.
there is no point mauling the violent past. just look ahead and move on. after all Jinnah, Nehru, Patel Mountbatten too had feet of clay--they were politicians, there was one Gandhi who got the subcontinent independence. will Pakistan at least give him credit for that??
If one region does teach how
If one region does teach how to love each other, it's must be satanism. This faithfreedom tends to provoke amongst believers. Disbelievers provoking. The really do not like people live in harmony.
If one region does not teach
If one region does not teach how to love each other, it’s must be satanism. This faithfreedom tends to provoke amongst believers. Disbelievers provoking. The really do not like people live in harmony. They like provoking other religious people to hate each other.
Faithfreedom never learns
Faithfreedom never learns Thomas Arnold Research. Blind makes people frustrated. Always try to provoke all their life.
[...] Nehru or Jinnah: Who
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The on;y way to tell the
The on;y way to tell the stupids is that Vikramaditya, banda bairagi, maharaj aranjit singh , and general Zoravar sing r not dead, and the stupid congressis preachng the appeasemnt and pushing India to another partition , is sinful and must b thwarted buy all national , as muslim population increase is endangering and raising the baneer ,
Another pea brained secular
Another pea brained secular beating his drum.Of course no body has problem with the moslem skunks, but its the islam that has problem with all others.Its th e pisslam that divides people in to them V/S US and its the pisslam that calls for rape of th e infidels women and killing of the men.Its the pisslam that trying to spread terror and it's not the fault of the kafirs.It's the pissing islam thats at fault and am quite amazed at the level of stupidity of kafirs particularly of the Indian variety.Islam is evil and followers of evil thoguhts are equally evil.Please get that in to your brain.Not too difficult ?
I will never understand
I will never understand KAFIR. But I have heart. I will never try to provoke any religions. Because of Kafirin provocation, many religions broken into pieces. What actually are you looking for in your life. Hundred years Islam and Hindu could live together harmoniously. But since British imperialism invaded India., Islam and Hindu relation broken into pieces. British and European countries in general had applied DEVIDE ET IMPERA.
anywhare.
Reply to sya_fic: You are at
Reply to sya_fic:
You are at the right place to understand the meaning of KAFIR and Islam.
You said: "I will never try to provoke any religions."
Me: Islam is already provoking every other religion.
You Said: "Hundred years Islam and Hindu could live together harmoniously."
Me: Do you really think so, may be in Islamic perspective you could call that Harmoniously and peacefully (forcing to pay Jazia tax or Convert, rape of non muslims females, forceful marriage, destruction of religious places, etc etc).
Go through the following link and uncover the true History of India.(read all his articles with open mind)
http://www.faithfreedom.org/2009/08/05/distortion-of-indian-history-for-...
Do not blame Christians or Europeans for pathetic condition of Muslims but Quran.
Hindus and Muslims lived in
Hindus and Muslims lived in peace for over a hundred years? LOL. LOL.
Marie; "Hindus and Muslims
Marie;
"Hindus and Muslims lived in peace for over a hundred years? LOL. LOL"
Beauty and Divinity of Islam!
"Hindus and Muslims lived in
"Hindus and Muslims lived in peace for over a hundred years”
This person is either half slept or brainless. What next?
Pagans and Muslims lived in peace for over a hundred years?
Buddhists and Muslims lived in peace for over a hundred years?
Christians and Muslims lived in peace for over a hundred years?
Sectarians Muslims lived in peace for over a hundred years?
islam is the worst enemy of
islam is the worst enemy of humanbeing,islam is responsible for millions of deaths.quran is the book of hate and terror.not the people ,but the ideology as we know it from history makes the people killer.we should not and must not tolerate the intolerance of throatcutter.they are killing each other,when they don,t find hindus or others.jinnah was an opportunist parsi,he used muslim for his own greediness.i wish for our muslim facists more enlightedness.
Beacasue of extremist hindus
Beacasue of extremist hindus like Nehru ... Jinnah had no choice but to demand a seperate state called Pakistan.
\Beacasue of extremist hindus
\Beacasue of extremist hindus like Nehru\
I feel like laughing. Nehru a Hindu extremist? You might have learnt this in some Madrassa. Everybody all over the world knows he was a secular leader. Hindus in India hate him for this secular, muslim-appeasing leader who made a mess of Kashmir. He was the one who announced subsidy for Haj pilgrimage in India out of Hindus' money, which has grown to gigantic proportions today with each successive leader increasing it. It is being circulated at many places through the internet that Nehru had muslim forefathers. His daughter Indira married a muslim.
http://mynewsscrapbook.blogspot.com/2009/01/history-of-nehru-family.html
Authors: Arvind Ghosh and N.S. Rajaram
1.GHIASUDDIN GHASI - Literal meaning of name-Kafir Killer. Mughal noble man who was the city Kotwal of Delhi.Persian ancestry. The British issued a shoot-at-site order to finish off all mughal noblemen who could be potential claimants for the throne of Delhi. This ethnic cleansing was done by Sikh and Gorkha soldiers with an efficiency, which only they are capable of. This muslim escaped from Allahabad and left for Agra. On way he was stopped by the British and asked to identify himself. He gave his name as Ganga Dhar. Dhar is a Kashmiri brahmin surname. When asked to explain his Persian features he told them he was a Kashmiri Brahmin. The British believed him. If they had investigated him properly the history of India would have been totally different.
2. MOTI LAL NEHRU - Son of Ghiasuddin Ghasi. Hindu only by name. Was a muslim like his father. He picked up a Persian word 'nahr'(canal or nullah) and added the sound 'oo' to make it sound like a Kashmiri Brahmin name. That was how the name Nehru was born.He was a totally unsuccessful vakil's assistant(mukhtear) in the Allahabad court. In utter desparation he worked as a pimp at 77,Mirganj,Allahabad which was in a red light area.
3. THUSSU - Innocent, poor brahmin girl from Kashmir.After the death of his first wife during delivery, Moti Lal went to Kashmir and married Thussu. He renamed her as Swarup Rani.This innocent girl was not aware of Moti Lal's evil designs.
4. MOBARAK ALI - Very successful and prosperous lawyer from Allahabad. Moti Lal befriended him in order to get a job under him. On bringing Swarup Rani to Allahabad he immediately gifted her to Mobarak Ali. Mobarak Ali kept her in his house Irshad Manzil for his pleasure. When she became pregnant, Mobarak Ali asked Moti Lal to take her back. Moti Lal requested Mobarak Ali to have the delivery at Irshad Manzil as he was living in a brothel. But Mobarak Ali refused.As per Sharia Laws even a @#%$ has a right of inheritance if he is born in his father's house.So Moti Lal took Swarup Rani to the brothel at 77, Mirganj where the child was born.
5. JAWAHAR LAL NEHRU - @#%$ child born to Swarup Rani and Mobarak Ali. The Nawab of Oudh on hearing that this muslim child was living in a brothel, took him to his palace. Jawahar Lal lived in this palace from age 1 to 10. It was here that his circumcision ceremony took place. He was taught Persian and Urdu by the Nawab of Oudh. He never knew a word of Sanskrit or Hindi. Went to Trinity College,England. Came back and started an unsuccessful lawyer's practice in Malabar hill, Mumbai. Arrested by Mumbai police for molesting a Parsi girl working in his office. Went on to become the first prime minister of India. Famous womaniser. He once had a keep who was a catholic nun. When she became pregnant,the catholic church stepped in and helped him out by sending the nun out of India. Ever since, the Catholic Church has grown in India with a speed that has not been mathched anywhere else in the world. They used to black mail Jawahar Lal and got what they wanted. Jawahar Lal died of syphillis.
6. INDIRA GANDHI - Daughter of Jawahar Lal and Kamala Kaul. Her real name was MAIMUNA BEGUM. She was a practicing muslim throughout her life. She was once invited to Mecca by the King of Saudi Arabia. Only muslims are allowed to enter the city of Mecca. Even the Saudis knew the truth but the Hindus were kept in the dark for obvious reasons. Our p-sec journalists worked overtime to push the news of the invitation under the carpet. Once she told one of her lovers M.O.Mathai, secretary to Nehru,\I will never marry a Hindu. I hate them. \This explains why she never took any action to save the lives of the Hindus in East Bengal. This also explains why she always surrounded herself with anti-Hindus.
7. FEROZE GANDHI - Contrary to popular belief, he was not a Parsi. He was the son of a muslim, Nawab Khan, who was the liquor supplier at Moti Lal's brothel. His mother was a Parsi who converted to Islam after marrying Nawab Khan. In later years converted to christianity due to influence of his daughter-in-law Sonia Maino. His real name was FEROZE KHAN.
8. RAJIV RATTAN BRIJESH ROBERTO NEHRU GANDHI - Rajiv Gandhi was born to Feroze Khan(Feroze Gandhi) and Maimuna Begum (Indira Gandhi).His circumcision ceremony was conducted secretly. He was a muslim until Sonia Maino converted him to christianity. He went to Cambridge for his studies at the expense of the Indian tax-payer. He spent his time reading porn books and running after girls. Did not pass a single exam in three years. Was asked to vacate the hostel. Lived in the Indian High Commissioner's residence for the remaining period of his stay in England. Picked up a low class Italian girl for a one night stand. But the girl had other ideas. He never got a degree from Cambridge. Was made a pilot(without any licence) in India to impress the low class Italian girl whom he was planning to marry.
9. SONIA MAINO - Low class Italian village girl from the village of Orbassano near Turin in northern Italy. Her ambition in life was to become an 'au pair' girl. In plain English it means 'part time servant maid'.She had a get-rich-quick mentality which was typical of low class Italians. Someone suggested to her that she could go to Oxford or Cambridge where rich boys from all over the world were congregating for their education and they were looking for good looking young girls. This girl chose to go to Cambridge. If she had gone to Oxford, the Indian public would have been spared a lot of trouble. She went to Cambridge under the pretext of picking up some English which would be useful for her job as an au pair girl. She was picked up one night by Rajiv Gandhi from a Greek pizza place in a back-alley of Cambridge. The rest is history. She owns a shop named Ganpati in her native village of Orbassano on Regina Margherita Street, which is run by her sister Marouchka. To a visitor it would look as if they are dealing in Indian made trinkets associated with Hindu gods, like small figurines of Ganpati and pictures of Krishna as a baby.But they were actually selling original antique idols of Hindu gods stolen from Indian museums and Hindu temples in India.They have reduced the scale of business after the Italian police started investigating them. Her present financial empire leads all the way to Pablo Escobar,the head of the Colombian drug cartel. She exports coffins to a company called Tribute Caskets in Kansas City. A senior executive of this company Virginia Cover de Rodrigues is a very close friend. This woman owns a bank account code named Svenska into which the Bofors kick back money was paid. This Virginia is also a close friend of Manuel Noriega of Nicaragua.The president of the Vatican Bank Archbishop Paul Marcinkus who was doing money laundering for Escobar suddenly disappeared with a lot of money. The police were looking for him all over the world. He was safely sitting in no.10,Janpath doing in-house catholic services for Sonia Maino.
10. SANJAY GANDHI - @#%$ child born to Maimuna Begum(Indira Gandhi) and Mohamad Yunus. Went to England like his brother for studies, funded by the Indian tax payer. His original name was Sanjiv Gandhi. When he was about to be caught by the British police for stealing a car,a fresh passport was issued by the govt. of India with a new name Sanjay Gandhi, to escape arrest. When he was a boy his mother disappeared alongwith him for a couple of days. The excuse given was that the boy had a speech defect and had to undergo a surgery. This was one more lie from the family of congenital liars. The truth was that circumcision was done for Sanjay Gandhi and Indira Gandhi underwent an abortion to avoid the birth of the child sired by M.O.Mathai. In his later years he came across some photos of Indira Gandhi with Dhirendra Brahmachari in some compromising positions. Used to blackmail and physically assault his mother. Could have been assasinated by the Russians on a request from Indira Gandhi herself. The Russians would have gladly done it as Sanjay Gandhi was pro-American.
11. THE RANI OF ETAWAH - Dumb, stupid Hindu woman. On the death of her husband the Raja of Etawah, she found that she would have to part with her entire kingdom as she had no children. Asked Mobarak Ali and Motilal to fight her case. They asked her for Rs.500,000.00. This was a very, very big sum in those days. The Rani paid in full. They shared the amount between them and did not fight the case. The case was lost in the lower court. They then told the Rani that they would fight the case in the higher court. They took another 500,000.00.They split this amount also and did not fight the case.The case was lost in the higher court also. They then told the Rani that they would fight the case in the Privy Council in London. They demanded up and down plane fare, a fat fee for themselves and a fee for a British advocate to fight the case in London. The smart British advocate said that the Rani could get hold of an infant of the appropriate age and say to the entire world that she was pregnant at the time of the Raja's death. This idea worked and the Rani's kingdom was saved.This stupid Rani thought that Mobarak Ali and Motilal had saved her. She gave them a lot of money and gave Amethi,a part of her kingdom to Motilal. Ever since the members of the Nehru >family have been behaving as if Amethi is their private property. This was how Moti Lal bacme a very rich man. He bought Irshad Manzil from Mobarak Ali. Irshad Manzil in Persian means 'House of happiness'.Moti Lal changed the name to Ananda Bhavan which means 'House of happiness' in Sanskrit.Jawahar Lal was not born in this house as our pseudo secular historians would want us to believe.
12. MOHANDAS KARAMCHAND GANDHI - So called Apostle of Truth. Aided and abetted in spreading the biggest lie in the history of mankind.
BHARAT MATA KI JAI!!
Adee You say: "Beacasue of
Adee
You say: "Beacasue of extremist hindus like Nehru … Jinnah had no choice but to demand a seperate state called Pakistan"
I say:
Because of Nehru,
Does World has "Hindu Republic of India" instead of a "Secular India" .
And in Hindu India, he had allowed so many converted Muslims with special minority right which overrides the national constitution.
In Hindu India, Hindus are still fighting for their religious places which were looted and destroy by your rapist ancestor.
You Muslims (converts from South Asia) are disgusting, you will eat beef and will blame Hindus for your bad stomach.
Show some respect to your ancestors who were raped by your great great grandfathers(Muslims Invaders), were forced to pay Jazia taxes, were slaughtered, your great great grandmother were forced to marry those animals and you still following the same religion. Show some respect to your ancestors who had gone through such a horrible time by Muslims by converting back to your old religion.
Stop watching the biased news from Islamic media.
Mr. Khan's blogg is balanced
Mr. Khan's blogg is balanced analysis of Jinnah. No doubt jinnah in his early political career was a secular and supporter of united india, but later he realized that his political ambition was undermined by the circumstances. For achieving his unholly ambitions he used Islam like condom ( Jinnah was atheist ) and divided india. after partition Jinnah realized the blunder he committed but there was no way to return back.