Muhammad: A Pedophile
Muhammad “married” Aisha when she was six years old.
'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported: Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) married me when I was six years old, and I was admitted to his house when I was nine years old. Muslim 8. 3310
Narrated 'Aisha:that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death). Bukhari 7. 62. 64
Narrated A'isha: that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: I have been informed that 'Aisha remained with the Prophet for nine years (i.e. till his death)." what you know of the Quran (by heart)' Bukhari 7. 62. 65
Narrated 'Ursa:The Prophet wrote the (marriage contract) with 'Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death). Bukhari 7. 62. 88
Arab year is lunar, which is shorter than solar year. In solar years, Aisha was 8 years 9 months old when Muhammad consummated his marriage with her. Consummate? This is a nice way to say raped her. According to Muslims, a woman must consent to her marriage or the marriage is null. How can a 6-years old child consent to her marriage? Without a consent, how can we call this relationship between a 51 years old man and a 6-years old child marriage?
Some Muslims claim that it was Abu Bakr who approached Muhammad asking him to marry his daughter. This is not true.
The Prophet asked Abu Bakr for 'Aisha's hand in marriage. Abu Bakr said "But I am your brother." The Prophet said, "You are my brother in Allah's religion and His Book, but she (Aisha) is lawful for me to marry." Bukhari 7.62.18
Even though Abu Bakr was fool enough to let Muhammad have sex with his little daughter, that marriage was invalid, because the only person who should have given consent was a minor. Aisha was unaware of what was going on and was surprised when Muhammad pulled down his pants and invited her to sit on his lap. She Narrated:
When the Prophet married me, my mother came to me and made me enter the house (of the Prophet) and nothing surprised me but the coming of Allah's Apostle to me in the forenoon. Bukhari 7. 62. 90
Aisha was playing with dolls like any other 8 year old child would do. She was not ready for marriage and had no understanding of it.
Narrated 'Aisha:
I used to play with the dolls in the presence of the Prophet, and my girl friends also used to play with me. When Allah's Apostle used to enter (my dwelling place) they used to hide themselves, but the Prophet would call them to join and play with me. (The playing with the dolls and similar images is forbidden, but it was allowed for 'Aisha at that time, as she was a little girl, not yet reached the age of puberty.) (Fateh-al-Bari page 143, Vol.13) Bukhari 8. 73.151
Narrated Aisha:
The Prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six (years). We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Bani-al-Harith bin Khazraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing became Alright, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, "Best wishes and Allah's Blessing and a good luck." Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah's Apostle came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age. Bukhari 5.234
Having sexual feelings for small children is called pedophilia. According to Ayatollah Montazeri, the most revered Shiite cleric of Iran , the “marriage” of Muhammad and Aisha was a political maneuver to placate the enemies of Islam. He wrote: The reason for this marriage was that the Prophet was under the intense pressure by his enemies like Abu Lahab and Abu Jahl and was completely dependent of the protection of other tribes. Abu Bakr had a lot of tribal influence. And rejecting his offer, in those conditions, for the Prophet was not prudent. In reality this marriage was symbolic and not to satisfy his sexual instinct, because, as a rule a 53-year-old man cannot have sexual feelings for a 9-year-old girl.
This is nonsense. Abu Bakr was already a devout follower of Muhammad and his confidant. Abu Lahab and Abul Hakam (whom Muhammad derogatorily called Abu Jahl, father of ignorance) had nothing to do with Abu Bakr. How can having sex with a child placate one's enemies? Assuming this ridiculous excuse is true, what about Aisha? Was she only a pawn for Muhammad’s political maneuvers?
In one thing the Grand Ayatollah is right. As a rule a 53-year-old man cannot have sexual feelings for a 9-year-old girl, unless he is a pedophile.
The Islamocritic scholar, Abul Kasem, has demonstrated that in Islam there is actually no age limit for marrying a child. He found the following hadith which shows a Muslim man can marry an infant. However should one of his adult wives suckle that infant both wives become haram to him.
Case of one of two wives suckling the other-If a man marry an infant and an adult and the latter should give milk to the former, both wives become prohibited with respect to that man [their husband], because if they were to continue united in marriage to him, it would imply the propriety of joint cohabitation with the foster-mother and her foster-daughter, which is prohibited, in the same manner as joint cohabitation with a natural mother and daughter-It is to be observed on this occasion, that if the husband should not have had carnal connection with the adult wife, she is not entitled to any dower whatever, because the separation has proceeded from her, before consummation :-but the infant has a claim to her half dower. [Hedaya Vol. I Book III, page 71 (Ref. 6)]
Abul Kasem also quoted the story of Umar marrying a child just four or five years old.
Umme Kulthum was 4 or 5 years old when Umar married her. This child was his most favourite wife (just like prophet Mohammad). There is a great controversy about the identity of this child bride of Umar. Many scholars claim that she was the daughter of Ali and Fatima. Others say that Umme Kulthum was the posthumous daughter of Abu Bakar and Habiba. Abu Bakar died (13 A.H.) a few months before Umme Kulthum was born. She was the half sister of Aisha. So, Umar asked Aisha for the hand of Umme Kulthum when she (Umme Kulthum) was only 4 - 5 years old. Aisha agreed and Umar and Umme Kulthum got married.
According to Abul Kasem’s calculations, Umar was 56 years old when he married this little girl. Why would he not wait for Umme Kulthum to reach the age of nine? Shouldn’t Umar follow the sunna (example) of his prophet? The answer is that Muhammad did not set any limits for child marriage. Ummar must have remembered when Muhammad expressed his desire to marry a crawling baby before death overtook him. This story is reported by Ibn Ishac, the most authentic biographer of Muhammad. Most other biographies are based on this monumental work of Ibn Ishak/Ibn Hisham
(Suhayli, ii.79: In the riwaya of Yunus I.I recorded that the apostle saw her (Ummu’l-Fadl) when she was baby crawling before him and said, ‘If she grows up and I am still alive I will marry her.’ But he died before she grew up and Sufyan b. al-Aswad b. Abdu’l-Asad al-Makhzumi married her and she bore him Rizq and Lubaba….(Ref.3, page 311)
Wind of Change
What ever Muhammad did to satisfy his desire for sex, power and ransom, he did it all without having second thought and justified his crime by pretending it a revelation from an imaginary Allah. He not only fooled people of his time but sowed seeds of his venom for the coming generations. He is a curse on humanity. The ray of light is reaching to millions exposing the venom filled Islam. Wise and informed people are leaving Islam. I can see the time when masses of Muslims will leave Islam in public gatherings. Time is running out for the Islam and followers of Muhammad.
Ol' Mo the paedophile...
Back at madressah we were taught that the prophet pee be upon him married Aisha because he need someone to impress all of his teachings as a child is sharper with regard to committing to memory. Thanks again for clearing up any doubts I had about that 'reason'. In truth, Mo was one horny and frisky dude who not only raped widows and orphans, but also has a thing for under age kids. I am a father to a little girl and could never imagine giving up my daughter for any damn paedophile prophet. Abu Bakr must have had his head so far up old Mo's arse, he couldn't see the bastard for who he really was.
Cultural bias
Well, I didn't see anything wrong with this marriage (Aisha and Mohammad or Omar with Umme Kulthum). It wasn't rape nor abuse.
I quoted the definition of marriage, rape and abuse from Cambridge Advanced Learner Dictionary:
"Marriage is a legally accepted relationship between a woman and a man in which they live as husband and wife, or the official ceremony which results in this." (legal acceptance)
"Rape is to force someone to have sex when they are unwilling, using violence or threatening behaviour." (unwillingness)
"Abuse is when someone uses or treats someone or something wrongly or badly, especially in a way that is to their own advantage." (treatment)
You know exactly what these two words' lexical meaning. It was lawful and legal marriage in their country and acceptable in their culture; may be not in yours. So, what's the deal?
It seems to me that you have a tendency to use your standard of value system into theirs. Then I believe it will lead you to cultural bias. Have you confirmed it to adult Aisha that she was raped and abused? I need this evidence.
Lupus the devout follower of
Lupus the devout follower of Islam who just does not give up:
"Marriage is a legally accepted relationship between a woman and a man in which they live as husband and wife, or the official ceremony which results in this." (legal acceptance)
A 6 year old is not a woman. She is a little child who does not know where babies come from.
I agree with you when you claim your culture/religion allows dirty old men to have sex with little girls. Why do you think the rest of the world calls you barbarians?
Put aside your primitive cultural bias and walk into the 21st century, its about time.
Thank You
Good atheist 21st centurian...
Quote you: “I agree with you when you claim your culture/religion allows dirty old men to have sex with little girls. Why do you think the rest of the world calls you barbarians?
Put aside your primitive cultural bias and walk into the 21st century, its about time.”
Yes, this 21st century but you forgot to count or simply took from statistical data (go Google it) of the number of American and European children (6 graders) and teenagers (9 graders) admitted that they have done sexual intercourse with more than 1 man and more than once. Are they women???? What culture do you want me to call this? Modern? Civilized barbaric?
Have you asked and confirmed it to adult Aisha about what you said about her and her 'old dirty' hubby?
There is law to punish in The USA
Lupus ! Yes there are so many American and European children (6 graders) and teenagers (9 graders) who had sex with men. But the biggest difference is the provision in law. USA has strict law to punish those men & women who have sex with children. There are devils in every society be it USA or Iran or Saudi Arabia for that matter but it was Muhammad the father of Islam who himself was a devil, gave his own example of pedophile behavior to be followed by all Muslims of the world.
But I'm sorry to say there is no such law in Islamic countries where a 90 year man can marry a newly born baby girl. Yes man it is shocking but legal in Islam. According to Islamic Sharia law a man can marry a girl of any age even in her ABSENCE, what a joke justified by Islamic Sharia Law
So, Marriage is Illegal?
@What is a name,
Now, you talk about law. Muhammad married (not RAPED) Aisha. Let say Aisha was 9 years old (if it is the fact), was in that CENTURY when many disbelievers killed their baby-girls, and in that COUNTRY where girls probably faster than other girls in the world get their first period of menstruation, and in that CULTURE in which young marriage was acceptable, is it illegal?
The problem is YOUR MIND. You accused people to be wrong, if what they do, mismatched with what you believe to be true in your CENTURY, COUNTRY, and CULTURE.
Do you want to say that all such things are universal? Or, should all countries follow American or Europian law?
Get your facts, do your home work
Muhammad married Aisha of 6 years old(?) not 9, when muhammad was more than 55 years young(?). If it was a normal practice in those centuries to marry and rape a baby it was the most important for Muhammad to establish a good example denying marriage with Aisha. Even animals don't fuck babies of other animals, doing so muhammad put himself below animals that's what he is.
Read it -
The Prophet asked Abu Bakr for 'Aisha's hand in marriage. Abu Bakr said "But I am your brother." The Prophet said, "You are my brother in Allah's religion and His Book, but she (Aisha) is lawful for me to marry." Bukhari 7.62.18
Look how cleverly Muhammad made exception for him self to marry a BABY girl of his so called brother. Every now and then muhammad received revelations from imaginary Allah to justify his desires for sex and ransom.
Read Koran and Hadith before you shout here. This website is not about loose talk without facts like others so called Islamic sites. There is a contact page at the top of this page, go and whine there. If you have facts before hands disprove any one of accusations made by FFI against muhammad.
You are the next same Muslim I'm discussing who is playing his old broken record without getting the facts from Koran and Hadith. We have debunked the same argument with a Muslim lady Mehbish Hussain, later she changed her name HM, again to HHHM, again to Jihadist. Each time we identified her and exposed her lies, even she accepted her tactics of changing-name.
It is/was the responsibility of every prophet to give his/her own example doing the good work/behavior to be followed by the people. But muhammad was not a prophet HE WAS A DEVIL who could not have control over his sexual desire so he married making fool out of people to enjoy the body of BABY Aisha. Now it is only Islam where a baby of 6 years has mental and physical growth to decide her sex partner !!!! Wow Lopus Islam is on right track. Please Muslims if you can not cope up with modern thinking please go back to your those so called beautiful centuries to enjoy end less sex with babies. What could be better than Iran to enjoy this pedophilia. And you Lopus ask your students of science whom you teach English, to quit studying modern science to read beautiful book of those so called centuries. It is happening in Afghanistan & Pakistani Waziristan. Of course Iran too is a better place to practice pedophilia under Sharia in the guidance of Ahmedinezad the pimp of Ayatollah Khomeini. Go and live in those Islamic countries practicing SUNNA, MARRYING & RAPING BABY GIRLS.
Read this http://faithfreedom.org/content/pederasty-permissible-islam how filthy the terror-manual Koran is.
hope that this reasons u
dear lupus,
even if a girl gets puberty by 9 yrs age,her body is NOT at all ready for sexual intercourses ,pregnancies. as a gynaecologist i wish to tell u that the child is not mentally or physically ready for marriages. TO THINK THAT ALLAHS MESSENGER DID THAT TO AYESHA.IF HE WAS T MESSENGER OF GOD,SURELY GOD WOULD HAV NEVER NEVER SUPPORTED SUCH A DEED.AND THINK OF THIS,FROM AGE OF 9,EVERY 2 YRS A MUSLIM GIRL KEEPS GETTING PREGNANT(BCOZ NO CONTRACEPTION EXCEPT LACTATIONAL AMENNORHEA ACCORDING TO ZAKIR NAIK IS ACCEPTABLE IN ISLAM},BY AGE 30 SHE HAS 10 CHILDREN,AND FURTHER ON....AND IF EVERYONE HAD THIS MANY CHILDREN{THINKING THAT ALL CONVERTED TO ISLAM},WHO WOULD GIVE ZAKAT TO WHOM?JUST THINK LOGICALLY.U R RESPONSIBLE FOR UR CHILDREN.IF UR CHILDREN DONT GET ENOUGH FOOD,MEDICAL NEEDS,EDUCATION THEN UR THE BIGGEST CRIMINAL IN PRODUCING ONE AFTER ANOTHER.I HOPE U UNDERSTAND.
Marriage
Marriage requires the mutual consent to fulfill this act in the spirit it was intended.
Lupus,you are a sick appologist for a barbaric act, Excuses,excuses is that all you offer?
The sexual slavery/ forced 'Mariage'. Honour killing' of women is endemic in 'Islamic' society, as is femail genital mutilation! Do you believe only infidels kill baby girls?
First period? you sick fuck, so this is how to determine the intelectual capeability of a 'woman' to take a decision on marriage?
Legallity does not enter it, Morality is beyond the strictures of man made law. From your attitude I can only determine you have no personal morality. If Mohammed sucked pigs cocks and fucked sows- this would be more moral and acceptable than child rape! only if he commited these acts he would be put to death. Odd isn't it the well being of a pig counts for more than a girl child?
I've done my homework, Sir.
What is the name....
Hi smart!
So, is this the smart response of an atheist??? Did I hurt you? Calm down SMART!
“If it was a normal practice in those centuries to marry and RAPE a baby it was the most important for Muhammad to establish a good example denying marriage with Aisha.”
Why do you like to say RAPE for a MARRIAGE? Do you have enough proof that MUHAMMAD RAPED Aisha? Is this what you call scientific and objective arguments? Go back to your linguistics lesson!
“The Prophet asked Abu Bakr for 'Aisha's hand in marriage. Abu Bakr said "But I am your brother." The Prophet said, "You are my brother in Allah's religion and His Book, but she (Aisha) is lawful for me to marry." Bukhari 7.62.18”
For this hadith, you made your own implication using your OWN CONTEXTS!!! For rubbish thing like what you said, I don’t need to look up Quran and Hadith. They are too worthy to compare with your head. For that, you will make your own implication based on what you like. Am I wrong?
“Even animals don't fuck babies of other animals, doing so Muhammad put himself below animals that's what he is.” Are you from National Geographic? Hope so!
“You are the next same Muslim I'm discussing who is playing his old broken record without getting the facts from Koran and Hadith. We have debunked the same argument with a Muslim lady Mehbish Hussain, later she changed her name HM, again to HHHM, again to Jihadist. Each time we identified her and exposed her lies, even she accepted her tactics of changing-name.”
She is not me and I’m not her. Prove it!!! Do you search!!! Old trick.
“And you Lopus ask your students of science whom you teach English, to quit studying modern science to read beautiful book of those so called centuries. It is happening in Afghanistan & Pakistani Waziristan. Of course Iran too is a better place to practice pedophilia under Sharia in the guidance of Ahmedinezad the pimp of Ayatollah Khomeini. Go and live in those Islamic countries practicing SUNNA, MARRYING & RAPING BABY GIRLS.”
I teach my students English to understand and use English properly. No harsh language allowed, and not to make any premature judgment like what I assume you did. I teach my students to understand other cultures through their languages so that they can be smart like you. I also teach them that in Pragmatics they have to obey Grice Maxims to achieve the objectives of conversations. I don’t know which part part of my responses made you look so angry.
Btw, as you are a very talented story teller, I'm wondering how the story is ended. What happened to Aisha? Did she grow up or died young in suffer? And if she grew up, did she leave Muhammad? Did she hate him? Tell me more.
Thank you so much
Your reply above is self
Your reply above is self explanatory for the visitors of this page.
Okay, point taken.
Okay, point taken.
Thorough propaganda
Lupus, You shame the Wolf, Wolves have a strict social structure - and protect thier young, regardless of some type of "CONTEXT"
If a lie is an old or ancient lie, it is no less of a lie because of this. Just the same as if an act of EXPLOITATION is carried out by an ADULT, a figure of 'AUTHORITY' against an INNOCENT CHILD is unarguably wrong.You seek to justify this act with "CONTEXT"? This practice is unexcusable under any circumstances nor justifiable by some distorted view of "CONTEXT". Most CHILD ABUSERS were victims of abuse themselves. When arrested and challenged they invariably say that the ABUSE they experienced DIDN"T DO THEM ANY HARM as a JUSTIFICATION of thier sick behaviour. What happened to Aisha she didn't complain, as if this is some kind of excuse. If she had it would doubtless have been edited out. Your "CONTEXT" and "CULTURAL" arguements are used as excuses for many barbaric practices, including child mutilation. Have you lost your humanity to a work of fiction?
You teach English? "Like what I assume you did" my English is poor, but it is better than yours,. Do you use your English to indoctrinate, spread lies, justify vile acts and advocate the veneration of barbarians and thier vile deities. You HAVE lost your humanity if you can justify to yourself, acts of hatred, enforcement of injustice, Child sex abuse or the acceptance of blasphemy, Why should a hypothetical God be excepted from challenge, scrutiny or criticism? Or is your god too fragile? Are your religious leaders worried the lies and iniquities will be exposed? YOU ARE FEARFUL,YOU ARE JEALOUS, YOU SEE THINGS IN THIS WORLD YOUR TRUE SELF IDENTIFIES WITH, WHICH CONFLICT WITH YOUR INFECTION OF ' ALLAHS' (or to be more accurate, Mohammeds' ) SUPPOSED 'TRUTHS.'(the Pope makes up truth as well!) . WERE YOU ABUSED AS A CHILD? IS THIS WHY YOU ARE FEARFUL? ISTHIS IS WHY YOU ARE ANGRY? IS THIS WHY YOU HAVE AN IMAGINARY FRIEND, PRETEND AND MAKE BELIEVE YOU ARE ONE OF THE CHOSEN PEOPLE? (along with the Jews,Jehovas witness,Christians--Ad nauseum)
If it wasn't all so sick I would find it funny!
aisha
muslims give many lame reasons for muhammad raping the 9 year old kid.
they claim that marrying a 9 year old kid in those times was normal in arabic culture.ok thts fine if tht was a culture.and i have absolutely no problem with the fact tht a nine year old is indulged in sex. afterall even the 3rd 4th standard gals have their boyfrends in schools.
BUT. muhammad was not just a regular arab men. he was a prophet . why did he blindly follow vat others were doing. he rather should have set examples before others. but instead he himself got indulged into sex with a kid.
secondaly.
muslims claim in those harsh climates of the arab the aging process was very fast. a 9 year old kid could become a adult so fast in those climates.
but the point is that if tht harsh climate could make a 9 year old kid age so fast.. then muhammad was already 54 at that time.. so virtually he would have become a 80 year old man . y didnt muhammad find a gal of his own age..??
why a kid..??
Pedephile?
When u say that Muhammahd is a pedephile, where is your facts that Aisha said no, or where did she say that she was forced into having sex with him. He did not marry Aisha because he wanted a sexually desire, or was confused. He did it because "Narated Aisha: Allah's Apostle(The Prophet Muhammad) said(to me),"You have been shown to me twice in (my)dreams. A man was carrying you in a silken cloth and said to me"This is your wife." I uncovered it;and behold it was you. I said to myself, If this dream is from Allah, He will cause it to come true.(Sahih Bukhari) Book of Nikah pg.10,15 You r just making things up, when u say rape where is your evidence. Did Aisha say she was raped, was she forced. And we don't get opinions from shiaqs. U say that it was rape because of age. but back then things were different from this time period. Back then they could have sexual intercourse with a women(meaning those who reached purberty). But in our time that can't not be done. We didn't have the same rules back then.
GOOD RULES HAD TO B MADE BY THE PROPHET
DEAR FATIMAH,
IF MUHAMMAD WAS GODS MESSENGER,HE SHOULD HAVE SET THE RULES HIMSELF.GOOD RULES AND JUST NOT SEEN WHAT PEOPLE WERE DOING AT THAT TIME.HE WAS NO COMMONER,RIGHT?HE WAS THE GODS MESSENGER.SO HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN WISE ENOUGH TO KNOW THAT A CHILD OF 9 YRS AGE,IS NOT MENTALLY AND PJYSICALLY FIT 4 SEX OR OPREGNANCY EVEN IF SHE HAS ATTAINED PUBERTY.WHAT EXAMPLE HAS HE SET TO YOU ALL?AT THIS AGE ALSO, UR NOT REDY TO REFORM UR RELIGION.U KEEP SAYING ITS ALLAHS WORD.I CANT BELIEVE ANY GOD COULD B SO BARBARIC AND ILLOGICAL.AND IF HE IS,SORRY TO SAY,HE IS NO GOD.HE IS A IMAGINATION OF A PERVERTED INDIVIDUAL
In those days it was
In those days it was acceptable for old men to marry and have sex with little children. Disgusting, but acceptable in that barbaric society. My question is why did'nt the Prophet put a stop to that practice? The purpose of being a Prophet is to change the world for the better by setting a good example. Am I right? So instead of putting a ban on that terrible practice he jumps right in and gives his endorsement.
A true messenger of God would never have done this.
Sick Sick Sick
Citation
"Child marriages such as this were relatively common in Bedouin societies at the time, and remain common in some modern societies worldwide. American scholar Colin Turner suggests that such marriages were not seen as improper in historical context, and that individuals in such societies matured at an earlier age than in the modern West. In modern times, however, the issue of Muhammad marrying and having sexual relations with a girl so young has been used to criticize him, particularly in the West, where there is heightened concern about child sexual abuse and related issues. In response some modern Muslim apologists have argued that adding up other dates given in the traditional sources may indicate that Aisha was older. Such a tactic was employed by the Indian Ahmadiyya figure Maulana Muhammad Ali. However, scholars such as Watt accept the traditional account."
And one more thing, she wasn't forced to marrie him, unlike "yours" catholic priest who "use" the kids. Those are true pedophile. There is the difference.
And don't call us barbaric, when Islam took it's place we were way ahead of the christian world, because your church didn't allowed you to prosper. As for Kur'an, the first words that are written are "Ikre, Bismi, Rabike" (don't now if they are written exactly) which means "Learn, read in the name of thy Lord".
We know about that point that
We know about that point that it was a different time with different customs around the world. But Mohammed is the supreme example of behavior for 1,57 billion people, much more important than mere priests. And marriage made no difference for the victim, Aisha, because she had no say but was forced into this marriage and even if she had had a say, she was not an adult, so couldn't make an informed decision.
And it is true what you say about our church in the past. But then your "church" did the same, and since Al Ghazali, around AD 1200, even more so. Islam prohibited the printing press for about 200 years in Islamic territory!
While in the 18the century Europe and America experienced Enlightenment and started practicing Democracy, trying to exercise the will of the majority of the people more and more, however imperfect. That is much better in our opinion than allowing some minority to rule over the majority. Even if that minority claims to be very wise and honest, or guided by divine rule. Something any one can say, and the truth of Islam is simply improvable. It is much more likely that it is an untrue religion. Reason enough to grant it no unelected power, but on top of that it is in our opinion also beaten in usefulness by the enlightenment/ democratic system. And we say; let the people decide in fair elections everywhere eventually.
That is why we consider there is a difference between Democratic and Islamic ways of organising society. A difference in civilization. I will call you human, instead of being barbaric, but also I will consider the democratic way of doing things more civilized than the Islamic one.
Boring
"And one more thing, she wasn't forced to marrie him, unlike "yours" catholic priest who "use" the kids. Those are true pedophile. There is the difference."
Repetition again. The issue of "force" is irrelevant because she was still a child who couldn't make her own decision. The one that got forced were her parents. Look at this:
"The Prophet asked Abu Bakr for 'Aisha's hand in marriage. Abu Bakr said "But I am your brother." The Prophet said, "You are my brother in Allah's religion and His Book, but she (Aisha) is lawful for me to marry."
Pedophile is a human who has a special attraction to children. Mo is a pedophile. The priests (punished) is a pedophile and a rapist at the same time, muslim (not punished) who marry children is a pedophile. All of them are pedophiles, got it? Why do you people always say the same things all over again?
Advancement?
The pre Islamist Arabs were culturally centuries in front of the western world, as were the pre christian Greeks. Mathematics, Philosophy, science and Architecture. After less than 200 years of Christianity the Greeks couldn't even build brick houses. The cultural heratage of the advanced civilisation that was in Arabia has been dragged into the darkness by Islam. Islam has made every attempt to obliterate and destroy any evidence that could challenge Islams' version of the truth. Islam is top dog when it comes to destruction, and what is sickening its street dogs are proud of it! Islam does a good job of re building though, building in false evidence and making false claims to support thier lies. The Christian church is just as guilty. The God Man Jesus/Joshua was an ancient legend all around the Mediteranian, Born in a stable/ cave to a virgin, 12 deciples,wore robes of purple, performed miracles, raised the dead, turned water into wine, returned to his place of origin on an Ass, and was put to death on a cross /tree 500 years before the 'Time of Christ' his name Dionisis, a Greek pagan deity. The newly formed literalist church dismissed the ancient Godman legend legend as "Demonic mimicry" A legend which pre dated Literalist Christianity by 500 years! Mimicry. that was the best excuse they can offer but the "sheep" accepted it. Sheep is a good analogy for the mindless folowers of 'Faith'No single monotheistic religion is good at tollerance. They all kill , are all corupt are all built on a lie, and all re-write history and ammend thier dogmas (although these dogmas are immutable truths!!) to suit the current power holders.
Learn, read in the name of the Lord, providing you don't find anything that contradicts 'Truth', or is "in the name of the Lord" a euphamism for only find out stuff to reinforce our lie?
Islam also cites Jesus as a prophet. It is an interesting FACT that there is NO evidence of the existance of such a character, yes, NO academic evidence, only heresay and manufactured artifacts. NO historic evidence from the perported period, NO ROMAN, NO JEWISH, NO GREEK chronicaler in this period has made a single mention of Jesus. Why? The most obvious answer is he didn't exist! Why has the Quoran/ Kur'an included this character tha did not exist?(to reinforce it's own lie?)
The Arabs WERE way ahead of the Christian world, and much before Islam, It is a shame that a great culture has been so defiled by THE BARBARIC BELIEFS OF THE TRULY IGNORANT. The JEWS have a lot to anwer for, the JEWISH TRIBAL DEITY, A GENIE WHO LIVES IN A MOUNTAIN, who has no name (but is called Yaweh or is it Allah?) and his gullable stooge Abraham/ Ibrahim have blighted humanity for millennia. It is ironic that the JEWS set the template for NAZI facism, a device popular with all FUNDAMENTALIST FANATICS! JEWS, CHRISTIANS, ISLAM YOU SHARE THE SAME ORIGINS. YOU SHARE THE SAME CRIMES.YOU ALL CORRUPT CHILDREN. YOU ALL TRY TO DESTROY HUMANITY. SHAME ON ALL OF YOU!
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It's not the case for arabs in ancient saudi arabia. They were barbaric. Remember, islam was created in there.
Why Did Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) Married Young Aisha Siddiqa (r.a
Through the centuries, orientalists have advance numerous accusations and far-fetched theories to discredit Islam and its last Prophet, Muhammad (peace be upon him). Praise be to Allah alone, all such accusations have been successfully refuted by the Muslims Ummah. Currently, one of the 'reinvented' accusations against the noble character of the Prophet is about his marriage to young Aisha Siddiqa (r.a.).
Let's probe some of the orientalists' charges in detail in the light of modern research, historic evidence and the Islamic sources of the Qur'an and the Sunnah to separate truth from falsehood, and display to the world that Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) is indeed an exemplary for all of mankind.
Two main theories are often advance by orientalists to attack the pure character of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) on his marriage to Aisha (r.a.) at her young age.
A. He was a Paedophile.
B. He was involved in child abuse.
Let's analyse each theory to dig out the truth, through the Guidance of Allah (SWT).
A. Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) married Aisha (r.a.) because he was a paedophile?
Definition of a Paedophile:
The diagnostic criteria for paedophilia according to American Psychiatric Association:
DSM-III-R Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, rev ed. 3, (American Psychiatric Association).
Harold I. Kaplan et al., Synopsis of Psychiatry, 5th ed. (Williams and Wilkens, 1988), p. 360.
Does the prophet fit the above criteria of a paedophile?
With the above criteria of a paedophile in mind, lets analyse the lifestyle of the prophet and his marriages.
His marriages:
Name of Bride
Bride's age at marriage
Comments
Khadija bint khawilad
40
Twice widowed before
Sauda Bint Zama
50
Widow
Aisha bint Abu Bakr
9
Started living with the prophet at the age of 9.
Hafsa Bint Umar bin Khattab
22
Widow
Zainab bint Khuzaima
30
?
Umm-I-Salma bint Abu Umayia
26
Widow
Zainab Bint Jahash
38
Widow
Juwaeria Bint Harith
20
Widow
Umm-I-Habiba bint Abu Sufyan
36
Widow
Marya Qibtiya bint Shamun
17
Virgin, Egyptian
Safia bint Hayi bin Akhtab
17
Widow
Raihana bint umru bin hanafa
?
?
Maimuna bint harith
36
widow
Source: Syed Abu Zafar Zain, The Prophet of Islam, the Ideal Husband (Lahore: Kazi Publications), pp. 10-12.
Statistics from the above table:
Percentage of his wives who were 17 years and older = 91 %
Percentage of his wives who were widows = 75%
Comments: The statistics show that the prophet's marriage to Aisha at her young age was an exception and not a norm of his other marriages. Furthermore "a paedophile's main mode of sexual satisfaction is with prepubescent girls", which is contradictory to the 91% of prophet's marriage to women 17 years and over. An unbiased examination of Prophet's life and his marriages to his wives blatantly rejects the notion of his lifestyle fitting that of a paedophile. All his brides were aged widows (except Aisha and Marya).
Moreover, according to the criteria in the references cited above in Synopsis of Psychiatry, a vast majority of paedophiles possess a history of exhibitionism, voyeurism, or rape. Again, there is no single reference from either religious or secular sources that the noble Prophet ever indulged in such sadistic behaviour (God forbid). This truth is observed and accepted by both Muslims and unbiased non-Muslims scholars.
Annie Besant, The Life and Teachings of Muhammad (Madras, 1932), p. 4.
B. Others claim that the noble Prophet (peace be upon him) indulged in child-abuse when he married Aisha at her young age
Let scrutinise this allegation...
Definition of Child Abuse:
Child Abuse, also called CRUELTY TO CHILDREN, the wilful and unjustifiable infliction of pain and suffering on children. The term can denote the use of inordinate physical violence; unjustifiable verbal abuse; the failure to furnish proper shelter, nourishment, medical treatment, or emotional support; incest; other cases of sexual molestation or rape; and the making of child pornography. Frequently described by the medical profession as the "battered-child syndrome," abusive treatment of children is almost universally proscribed by criminal statutes. Child abuse can have serious future consequences for the victims involved. Delays in physical growth, impaired language and cognitive abilities, and problems in personality development, learning, and behaviour are common following instances of child abuse or neglect. Encyclopaedia Britannica, 1998
Comments: None of the criteria of child-abuse applies to the noble life of the Prophet (pbuh). There is no single incident of any infliction of pain and suffering by the prophet on Aisha or any other human being for that matter. Neither any instance of verbal or sexual abuse can be concluded from the relationship of the prophet with Aisha (r.a.) or any of his wives.
An abused child can have serious future consequences...delayed physical growth, impaired language..learning and behaviour...etc (above definition). As one examines the chaste life of Aisha (r.a.), her personality, physical, mental and spiritual development are all contrary to that of an abused child. In fact through the Prophet's marriage and his guidance to Aisha, history testifies that she should be labelled not as an abused child but as a 'blessed child'.
After analysing and refuting the accusations against the noble character of Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him), the only viable alternative left with us is:
C. The Prophet married Aisha for the benefit of Islam and Humanity
Lets analyse...
1. The Prophet married Aisha primarily for three reasons:
2. Her Marriage with the prophet was a Wahy (Divine Revelation). She, herself relates from the Prophet. "He said, 'I saw you in dreams three times. The angel brought you to me and you were clad in white silk. He (the angel) said that it was your consort and he (angel) showed me by opening your face. You are just like that..." Sahih Muslim, Vol.2, p. 285.
3. Aisha (r.a.) was born after her parents had embraced Islam. Therefore, she was free from the defilement of polytheism right from her birth.
4. In her youth, already known for her striking beauty and her formidable memory, she came under the loving care and attention of the Prophet himself. As his wife and close companion she acquired from him knowledge and insight such as no woman has ever acquired.
Aisha lived on almost fifty years after the passing away of the Prophet. She had been his wife for a decade. Much of this time was spent in learning and acquiring knowledge of the two most important sources of God's guidance, the Qur'an and the Sunnah of His Prophet. Aisha (r.a.) was one of the three wives (the other two being Hafsa (r.a.) and Umm Salama (r.a.) who memorised the Revelation. Like Hafsa (r.a.), she had her own script of the Qur'an written after the Prophet had died.
So far as the Hadith or sayings of the Prophet is concerned, Aisha (r.a.) is one of four persons (the others being Abu Hurayra, Abdullah ibn Umar, and Anas ibn Malik) who transmitted more than two thousand sayings. From her, 2210 Hadith have come, out of which 174 Hadith are commonly agreed upon by both Bukhari and Muslim.
Many of her transmissions pertain to some of the most intimate aspects of personal behaviour which only someone in Aisha's position could have learnt. What is most important is that her knowledge of Hadith was passed on in written form by at least three persons including her nephew Urwah who became one of the greatest scholars among the generation after the Companions.
It is the claim of the Scholars of Islam that without her, half of the Ilm-I-Hadith [knowledge, understanding of the Hadith (and Islam)] would have perished.
5. Many of the learned companions of the Prophet and their followers benefited from Aishah's knowledge. Abu Musa al-Ash'ari once said:
Al-Muwatta of Imam Malik, Hadith 2.75.
Arwa Bin Zubair says,
Ibn Qayyim and Ibn Sa'ad, Jala-ul-Afham, vol. 2, p. 26.
Abu Musa al-Ash'ari says:
Sirat-I-Aisha, on the authority of Trimidhi, p. 163.
6. As a teacher she had a clear and persuasive manner of speech and her power of oratory has been described in superlative terms by al-Ahnaf who said: "I have heard speeches of Abu Bakr and Umar, Uthman and Ali and the Khulafa up to this day, but I have not heard speech more persuasive and more beautiful from the mouth of any person than from the mouth of Aisha."
The Prophet said,
Sahih Al-Bukhari Hadith, Narrated by Abu Musa Al-Ash'ari Hadith 4.643.
Musa Ibn Talha (r.a.) says,
Mustadrak of Hakim, vol.4, p.11.
7. Men and women came from far and wide to benefit from her knowledge.
Aisha's great interest in the study of the Qur'an is understandable. She was an eye-witness to a number of revelations and had therefore a clear idea of the circumstances in which they were revealed. It was on her bed alone (and no other consort's) that the Prophet received Wahy (Divine Revelations) several times. This helped her in interpreting the verses.
8. At the time of the Prophet's death, the Prophet's head was on her lap. It was in her quarters that the Prophet was buried.
The life of Aisha (R) is a proof that a woman can be far more learned than men and that she can be the teacher of scholars and experts. Her life is also a proof that a woman can exert influence over men and women and provide them with inspiration and leadership. Aisha (R) is a continuing inspiration and role model to today's youth who are diligently searching for an example amongst the pop stars, movie actresses and sports stars. May the memory of her's live forever in the heart of the Muslim Ummah and may Allah grant her the highest abode in Paradise...Ameen.
Conclusion
It was the aforementioned qualities of Aisha (r.a.) and the Prophet's guidance in moulding these capabilities for the service of Islam, were the main reasons, why the Prophet Married young Aisha (r.a.), and not the perverted reasons brought forth by misguided orientalists.
Muslims invite all sincere humans to study the life of Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon) in the light of the authentic sources of the Qur'an and the Sunnah (exemplary sayings and deeds of the Prophet) and judge for themselves where the truth lies. Indeed, by recognising the truth of Islam as the final and complete Guidance sent by our Creator can humanity find lasting peace in this world and a means of salvation from the hell fire in the hereafter.
George Bernard Shaw, The Genuine Islam, vol. 1, no. 81936.
Though, the Prophet is not among us in his flesh, but his exemplary life has been preserved for all humanity to follow.
When Truth comes Falsehood disappears, Islam came, now Shirk (polytheism) must clear.
Boring
Fix your definition of pedophile. Mo was a pedophile all right. He attracted to 6 years old aisha in a wet dream and consumated her at 9. He set the rules of pedophile. Attraction was enough to call him pedophile. Abu Bakr was already his closest companion, there was no need to marry 6 years old child and why marriage? as if there were no other ways. Why not wait until she grew up? A muslim is a brother to another, isn't it? so that was only an sexcuse ops i mean excuse. Your "divine revelation" wasn't logical and it's pure belief, any other religion can make this argument. I ask you:
- Does quran forbid child marriage?
- Does quran prescribe punishment to muslim who do child marriage?
- What is the age limit of marriage in sharia law?
- Did mo allow aisha to remarry after the old goat's dead?
Let's see your respond.
Another one from Sirat:
"(Suhayli, ii.79: In the riwaya of Yunus I.I recorded that the apostle saw her (Ummu’l-Fadl) when she was baby crawling before him and said, ‘If she grows up and I am still alive I will marry her.’ But he died before she grew up and Sufyan b. al-Aswad b. Abdu’l-Asad al-Makhzumi married her and she bore him Rizq and Lubaba….(ref.10, p. 311)"
It seems that your version of "truth" wasn't strong enough to get rid of the "falsehood". Muslim practice child marriage with ease. Must be a forged "truth".
-"I have studied him - the wonderful man and in my opinion far from being an anti-Christ, he must be called the Saviour of Humanity. I believe that if a man like him were to assume the dictatorship of the modern world, he would succeed in solving its problems in a way that would bring it the much needed peace and happiness: I have prophesied about the faith of Muhammad that it would be acceptable to the Europe of tomorrow as it is beginning to be acceptable to the Europe of today."-
Dude, any person can make comment to any thing in this world, but that doesn't make his/her OPINION valid. You can find many people praising famous people and religions (even some of religionists here quoted it) so anyone can do what you do. It seems after the old goat died his companions got split in bloody killing up until now and continued to conquering all non muslim lands. The muslim world is miserable, and don't forget about rebellion of apostates. Peace and happiness, eh? from where? Mars? Your statement is refuted with reality itself.
KIDDY FIDLER!
CHILD MOLESTERS OFTEN SEEK OUT WOMEN WITH CHILDREN! how many of Mohammed's (I spit on his vile name)NUMEROUS 'WIDOWS' had children? Women who are vulnerable often fall prey to the predatory paedophile. In most cases the mothers are even complicit in allowing sexual acts against thier own children. Examining Mohammeds' (May pig blood/piss be poured on his name) matrimonal history, it would seem to any non biased, objective realist that he was in fact a sexual predator deliberately finding widows who more than likely had children, am I mistaken in thinking this is an unusual number of widows? (edditation and ammendment being rife in religious texts, the presence of other children is likeley to have been airbrushed out!) When removal of evidence fails then make excuses to justify Aisha had a good memory! I think I'll marry this child and FUCK HER because she won't forget? No she didn't , she said she was only nine years old! NO MATTER HOW YOU PRESENT IT, OR HOW MANY TIMES YOU SEEK TO JUSTIFY IT- HE FUCKED A CHILD! Because she was beautiful, had a quick mind, a good memory. Why if he was such a good being who wanted to mentor the child did he not adopt her as a daughter? That would be the act of a truly righteous being.
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Let me make this clear that don,t spread Islamic knowledge in the wrong way
Islam is a peacful Religion which shows the solution of every problems for the humanity
We muslim believe in humanity but the Best human was Prophet Mohammad Peace be upon him
you ppl are among those aknowlegde who spreads and Introduces Islam in the wrong way
Yes Aisha was married in 6 yrs old age but Prophet mohammad had no sex with her untill she became teenager
and as we all know that when a person becomes teenage then they passes the age of childhood...
And Don,t forget the day will come that Allah (God) will ask you that why you have spread Islam at the wrong way why u used
Bad Words For the prophet Mohammad (PBUH) there will be no way of saveing yourself from the fire of the Hell....
First try to know the truth then spread it...
The way you have used such bad words for our prophet I could also reply you by that way but our religion does not permit me toh do this so....
Its mention in Holy Quran 16:125
" Invite All to the way of the lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching and argue with them
in a way that are most gracious"
So I request you all that first plzz know islam and Prophet Mohammad then talk anything about...
innocence
Saba, you seem to be an innocent that has been infected with the virus of religion. You are seem to be a kind soul as you can only recognise the good things, The good things in religious texts show the humanity of ordinary people, ordinary people are flawed, but basically good,so this is what you choose to see, you shield yourself from acnowledging the sick perversions, massacres, subjugation, and instruction to hate, all of these acts are in your holy texts, and are justified because of thier supposed 'Devine' origins.
The exploitation of people like you by others who seek power sickens me. The ancient Arabs were 'Gods unto themselves', and Gods to themselves only. If there is a god it resides in you as an individual - INDIVIDUAL. If an individal is wrong and commits acts of evil it is limited to a single individuals actions, limited in its impact. When you stop being an individual and become a part in a machine fueled with ' self righteousness' where anything can be qualified or sanctiond by the AUTHORITY, who tell you 'God is with us / God is on our side' ( a popular mantra for the powerfull when they want others to die and kill for them. It's interesting that the ones at the top are very rarely in the firing line!) They all claim to be wiser, and know better than you, they will justify, 'As he work of God' anything that seves THEM.even God serves them! Mohammed was wise and cunning. He used his wisdom for deciet, manipulation, self engrandisment and power. He was wise enough to know who to kill and clear his path to domination. Cunning enough to trap others to do his bidding.
The delusion of self righteousness is compounded and reinforced because each part of the machine believes it NEEDS to be part of the machine. It gets praise from others for its' unquestioning complience. If challenges or it's not complient it will be shunned and punished by the others," You have not studied hard enough!" "You have not learned!" How many are brave enough to admit they do not understand and suffer the scrutiny of thier 'superiors'? carrot and stick, fear and love.
The magnitude of error by one person is not insignificant , but it is limited. The magnatude of crimes commited by many millions in the name of Allah and inspired by Mohammed are crimes you WILL be party to.These actions ARE of cruelty, oppression and murder, which as I write are being carried out by DEVOUT FOLLOWERS of Islam. These actons will be a catastrophy, both to you and the people you love.. You ARE an individual ,this is your birth right. Authority always fears the individual, this makes individuality a harder path to follow than that of the heard. Learn your true self, this cannot be learned from a book or from the tales of others.I have yet to hear a story that has not been changed in the telling!
Fires of hell.? I have no fear for a sick invention that exists only in the minds of wicked men, Find the origin of hell and you will find a deviant liar hiding there. If there is a God that loves you, why would it punish you ? Would a loving god not give you the oppertunity to try again to get it right?
Peace. .
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Muhammad: A Pedophile-was!
Let me make this clear that don,t spread Islamic knowledge in the wrong way
Properly translated that means stop telling the truth it hurts my tender sensibilities and feelings.
Islam is a peacful Religion which shows the solution of every problems for the humanity
When Muslims say peace what they really mean is submit, be subject to, obey and allow yourself to be dominated by al lah, Muhammad and the Quran. Islam = peaceful, calm and tranquil, no.Solution for every problem: how so, The Gods give humanity nothing practical, only things not verifiable of proof, for us to fight over. Allah did not tell Muhammad how to manufacture toilet tissue for wiping. Those pebbles and rocks had to be very uncomfortable and hardly effective.
We muslim believe in humanity but the Best human was Prophet Mohammad Peace be upon him
All humans are part of humanity; there is no need for belief. Your parent is the best of humans. It’s the bad Muslims that make it bad for everybody.
you ppl are among those aknowlegde who spreads and Introduces Islam in the wrong way
Do you mean knowingly, acknowledge or acknowledged! Aha, you are just learning.
Yes Aisha was married in 6 yrs old age but Prophet mohammad had no sex with her untill she became teenager
Are you calling Aisha a liar? Stop believing and do your own research.Sahih Bukhari, Volume 7, Book 62, Number 64: Narrated 'Aisha: that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage (had sex) when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years.
and as we all know that when a person becomes teenage then they passes the age of childhood...
Teenage starts at thirteen and ends at nineteen.
And Don,t forget the day will come that Allah (God) will ask you that why you have spread Islam at the wrong way why u used Bad Words For the prophet Mohammad (PBUH) there will be no way of saveing yourself from the fire of the Hell.... First try to know the truth then spread it...
Sahih Bukhari, Book 84: Volume 9, Number 57: Narrated 'Ikrima: Some Zanadiqa (Atheists) were brought to 'Ali and he burnt them. The news of this event, reached Ibn'Abbas who said, "If I had been in his place, I would not have burnt them, as Allah’s apostle forbade it, saying, 'Do not punish anybody with Allah’s punishment (fire).' I would have killed them according to the statement of Allah’s apostle, 'Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him.'
The way you have used such bad words for our prophet I could also reply you by that way but our religion does not permit me toh do this so.... Its mention in Holy Quran 16:125 " Invite All to the way of the lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching and argue with them in a way that are most gracious"
The prophet used bad words for us, first. Sorry, we don’t want it, thank you anyway.
Quran 8:12 (Spoils of War, Booty) - Remember thy Lord inspired the angels: "I am with you: give firmness to the Believers: I will instill terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers: cut you above their necks and cut all their finger-tips off them."
So I request you all that first plzz know islam and Prophet Mohammad then talk anything about...
We already know Islam and Muhammad by their bad works and rotten fruits that is why we can talk about it the way we do…, it’s ok if you want to believe though, have a nice day.
Ignorant people keep repeating themselves
You seems lost. Why don't you read this section from A to Z, not just jump in the middle and start something that have been done by others. My advice: Carefully read this site and the discussions.