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Muhammad: A Kindred Spirit From Mecca

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Ibn Kammuna

Introduction In this article, I try to investigate the claim that Muhammad had a gentle spirit in Mecca, that changed quickly after his emigration to Medina. This study relies mainly on comparing earlier Meccan Qur’anic verses with other Qur’anic verses from his early times in Medina, as well as with verses from his last “revelation” when he was the supreme leader of Arabia. Meccan Muhammad Muhammad’s message was for his kin folks. Allah is in control of everything. Muhammad is no more than a warner. However, Muhammad did what he could, mainly threaten people. Note how verse 42:7 in the Qur'an promises those who do not follow him the fire of hell. There is more beauty and rhyme in the Meccan Suras. Arabs loved poetry and rhyme, and Muhammad had to compete with that. They had certain annual markets in Mecca where poets competed with their poetry (i.e. Ukad or Ukaz,..). The best poems were hung on the walls of the Ka’ba, an honor that not every poet obtained. Muhammad was unsuccessful with his new ‘poetry-like’ jargon; the Qur’an. In this regard many great poets won the hearts of the Arabs more than Muhammad's Suras. By the end of his thirteen years in Mecca, Muhammad realized that words are powerful, especially if they came in an attractive way (i.e. poetry). But he also realized that  his language abilities cannot compete with those great poets of old. When he went to Yathrib (called Medina later), he probably had in mind getting rid of those poets who went against him, or mocked him with their poetry. History bears me out here. Did he not assassinate Asma bint Marwan and other poets who said some poetry criticizing him? Muhammad's assassinations and killings of poets are best understood within the context of his life. He could not do much to them when he was in Mecca. He was weak with no political power. Would it not be natural to see Muhammad as a vindictive unforgiving person for those who criticized him right from the start? Muhammad did target poets after the hijra (emigration) to Yathrib (Medina) with assassinations. Even after he took over Mecca, he ordered the killing of Ibn Khatal and his two singing girls because they sang songs making fun of Muhammad. He was just a vindictive unforgiving person right from the Meccan times. He just did not muster enough power to send his henchmen to kill people back then (Muhammad himself was a coward who relied on others to do his bad deeds for him). Below are some verses from the Meccan period (all of the Qur'anic quotes below are from Yusuf Ali translation): 026.214 And admonish thy nearest kinsmen, 042.003 Thus doth (He) send inspiration to thee as (He did) to those before thee,- Allah, Exalted in Power, Full of Wisdom. 042.004 To Him belongs all that is in the heavens and on earth: and He is Most High, Most Great. 042.005 The heavens are almost rent asunder from above them (by Him Glory): and the angels celebrate the Praises of their Lord, and pray for forgiveness for (all) beings on earth: Behold! Verily Allah is He, the Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful. 042.006 And those who take as protectors others besides Him,- Allah doth watch over them; and thou art not the disposer of their affairs. 042.007 Thus have We sent by inspiration to thee an Arabic Qur'an: that thou mayest warn the Mother of Cities and all around her,- and warn (them) of the Day of Assembly, of which there is no doubt: (when) some will be in the Garden, and some in the Blazing Fire. While in Mecca, Muhammad increasingly became more insulting to his kin folks and their religions. Despite that, the pagans of Mecca were civil people. They did not drive him or his Muslim group out of Mecca. He had leaving the city on his mind as he realized he cannot make it to be the leading authority figure if he stayed. Over a period of thirteen years he only managed to have around one hundred to a hundred and fifty Muslims, mostly rowdy and lower class people. The fact of the matter is that Muhammad had it in his mind to leave Mecca all along. He sent a group of Muslims to Abyssinia (Ethiopia, 615-6) to see about the situation there. He also went to Taif (619), and the people there told him to just leave. They kicked him out. The idea that Muhammad was forced to leave Mecca because the Meccans were after him wanting to kill him does not find much historical support. The reader is advised to see M. A. Khan’s book discussion on this matter ( Islamic Jihad, pp. 18-26). Early Medinan Muhammad In Medina, there are, in my view, two distinct stages to Muhammad's career of ten years there. In Mecca, he realized that he can't win the hearts of people through his kind verses Qur'an (poetry!!). He just was not good enough to compete with the top poets of the time. He must have contemplated more power and success in life. So, he had to feel his way by using force. He wanted to see how much power he can exercise over other people. First loots were unsuccessful. However, the Nakhla raid was a success. He made a good bounty out of that raid without even lifting a finger. For a quick analogy here, I grew up where there are local dogs in the villages that herded sheep and goats. If a dog tasted the blood of a goat and killed it, that dog had to be shot. There was no way to keep that dog from doing it again. The usual say in the village would be “He (meaning the dog) could not be kept alive. He tasted blood”. Well, in a sense, the Nakhla raid for Muhammad was his “blood tasting” experience. (off course, the problem was he, Muhammad, was kept alive). Here are some verses from that period: 002.256 Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error: whoever rejects evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy hand-hold, that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things. 002.257 Allah is the Protector of those who have faith: from the depths of darkness He will lead them forth into light. Of those who reject faith the patrons are the evil ones: from light they will lead them forth into the depths of darkness. They will be companions of the fire, to dwell therein (For ever). Note that the above verses still gives an option of belief to people, however he is still threatening people with hell fire. Muhammad is still feeling his way on what to do next. However, look at those verses from the same period: 002.190 Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for Allah loveth not transgressors. 002.191 And slay them wherever ye catch them, and turn them out from where they have Turned you out; for tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter; but fight them not at the Sacred Mosque, unless they (first) fight you there; but if they fight you, slay them. Such is the reward of those who suppress faith. It is evident that Muhammad had moved to what I call passive fighting. Muslims are still weak during that period. He wants them to defend themselves by fighting those who fight the Muslims. Verse 191 above shows Muhammad's hateful heart against those who fight the Muslims. It is at this stage that we see Muhammad feeling that he has some power to be able to subdue those who fight the Muslims. But, he has to be careful with his revelations, as he is still not in full control power-wise. He had to seek alliances with multiple groups and tribes. Muhammad's True Colors The true color of a person shows best when he is in power to decide the fate of other people. Many people loved the late king Hussein of Jordan for many reasons. He was just a kind-hearted man. One of the things about the late king if one reads his writings, and many people do not know that, is that there were many assassination attempts and coups against his life and against his rule. It was a habit of his to forgive those who tried to kill him or make a coup against him (in fact, many of those people he elevated to high ranks in the Jordanian army and the Jordanian police). The late king Hussein had a gentle spirit. Compare that to Muhammad and what he says in the last Sura of the Qur'an (chronologically). Please remember that he was the highest authority in the land when such verses were “revealed” to him. By the way, by that time, Muhammad’s “revelations” lost their rhyme. He did not need to compete with the poets anymore. He had military and political control over much of Arabia. Below are the verses from the chronologically last “revelation”: 009.028 O ye who believe! Truly the Pagans are unclean; so let them not, after this year of theirs, approach the Sacred Mosque. And if ye fear poverty, soon will Allah enrich you, if He wills, out of His bounty, for Allah is All-knowing, All-wise. 009.029 Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. 009.073 O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the Hypocrites, and be firm against them. Their abode is Hell,- an evil refuge indeed. 009.074 They swear by Allah that they said nothing (evil), but indeed they uttered blasphemy, and they did it after accepting Islam; and they meditated a plot which they were unable to carry out: this revenge of theirs was (their) only return for the bounty with which Allah and His Messenger had enriched them! If they repent, it will be best for them; but if they turn back (to their evil ways), Allah will punish them with a grievous penalty in this life and in the Hereafter: They shall have none on earth to protect or help them. 009.113 It is not fitting, for the Prophet and those who believe, that they should pray for forgiveness for Pagans, even though they be of kin, after it is clear to them that they are companions of the Fire. 009.123 O ye who believe! fight the unbelievers who gird you about, and let them find firmness in you: and know that Allah is with those who fear Him. The above verses show no mercy against non-Muslims. The command is to put others into submission by whatever means necessary, force them to pay Jizya, kill them,..etc. Choice of religious belief in a pluralistic society is no more existent. Concluding Remarks Muhammad was not a kindered spirit as some Muslim apologetics try to portray him. This fact dates back to his Meccan times. He had a vengeful inner spirit. However, in Mecca, he could not harm people and kill them as he did not have much power. The best he could do is curse others and say Qur'anic verses telling them they are going to hell. That he did. As his power increased, his Qur'an lost much of the rhyme, and added much of the “harm and kill the others” to it. Earlier in Medina, this matter was less noticeable as Muhammad was not in complete control of everything. Later in Medina, he had supreme power over all of Arabia. It is during that time that his true colors showed up in the form of teaching the Muslims, through his Qur'an, to kill and subdue all who do not agree with his message.

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Mohammad was a Arab bandit

Mohammad was a Arab bandit and a child rapist . I cant understand how muslims can call such a man holy.

what do you think friends?


Muhammad has committed so

Muhammad has committed so many crimes during his lifetime,such as robbery,rape/paedophelia,murder,etc.
Is it possible to take these charges to court him and convict Muhammad of his crimes even though his dead?


Santiago, post

Santiago, post 25153.

Oooooohhhhh, watch out for Kabirlaw on this, Santiago, I went there once with him and he assured me that Muhammad would be acquitted in any court of law!

Actually I only meant that in order to be fair about judging any and all perpetrators of all sorts of crimes we should BEHAVE like Judges and juries do, who weigh the crimes, not the religion or race or other irrelevant characteristics, of both Perpetrator and Victim.

It was in regard to comparison of outrage among Muslims against Israel. I meant: It is the crime that counts, not whether the perpetrator is Jew/ American or Muslim (including Muhammad) and not whether the victim is Muslim or not. I pleaded for equal judgment, in content as well as quantity.

But he thought I liked to bring Muhammad to a court of law, and being a lawyer he educated me.


Watch this video of

Watch this video of Palestinians. The feed hatred to children and poison their mind: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvE5K9W6UUk ; Secular Muslims (LOL) such as Londonspirit and Kabirlaw will never say that the contents of this video are wrong.


What happened to Londonspirit

What happened to Londonspirit and Kabirlaw with their kafir education loooooooooooooooooooool
In Cairo Egypt, Christians are not allowed to attend the university Obama spoke at and he said nothing but blamed America. Dark skinned Africans are not allowed to attend the university either. SUCH ISLAMIC FREEDOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! QURAN 10:90 SAID PHARAOAH WAS A MUSLIMS WHEN THE ARABS WERE CONQUERING EGYPT FROM THE COPTIC CHRISTIANS BERBERS.

aLL THEY KNOW IS HATE. PLEASE SUE THEM RIGHT BACK AND LET THE WORLD KNOW ABOUT THE UN AND ISLAMIC BEDTIME STORIES.


A FATWA. BOMB HIS FILTHY

A FATWA.
BOMB HIS FILTHY GRAVE,THEN SET IT ON FIRE USING LOCAL PETROL.
NO NEED FOR PUPLIC TRIAL.
CASE CLOSED,SEALED AND DELIVERED.
APROVED BY ALLAH AND THE MUFTI.
LA SALAM ALA MAD MOE


the mufti: A FATWA. BOMB HIS

the mufti:

A FATWA.
BOMB HIS FILTHY GRAVE,THEN SET IT ON FIRE USING LOCAL PETROL.
NO NEED FOR PUPLIC TRIAL.
CASE CLOSED,SEALED AND DELIVERED.
APROVED BY ALLAH AND THE MUFTI.
LA SALAM ALA MAD MOE

I say:

I have a better idea:

Dig up Muhammed's grave and rebury it with pigs inside.


Incidentally in sodi barbaria

Incidentally in sodi barbaria the grave of the rapist pedophile is unmarked! No body knows where in sodi barbaria he remains buried,this is a great mekkan vengence to the rapist pedophile


"Dig up Muhammed’s grave and

"Dig up Muhammed’s grave and rebury it with pigs inside."

Noooo, poor pigs. What did they do to deserve this?


"Is it possible to take these

"Is it possible to take these charges to court him and convict Muhammad of his crimes even though his dead?"

No. But you can convict his true followers a.k.a his small clones.

"But he thought I liked to bring Muhammad to a court of law, and being a lawyer he educated me."

Lawyers lie to please his client. Truth is not their concern, money is.


noooo muhammad+pigs=swine flu

noooo
muhammad+pigs=swine flu terror syndromeX


La Illaha IllAllah Muhammadur

La Illaha IllAllah Muhammadur Rasullullah!
There is no God but ALLAH and Muhammad is the messenger of ALLAH!!

Starting from Ibn Kabuma,

Ref:
Arabs loved poetry and rhyme, and Muhammad had to compete with that. They had certain annual markets in Mecca where poets competed with their poetry (i.e. Ukad or Ukaz,..). The best poems were hung on the walls of the Ka’ba, an honor that not every poet obtained. Muhammad was unsuccessful with his new ‘poetry-like’ jargon; the Qur’an. In this regard many great poets won the hearts of the Arabs more than Muhammad’s Suras.

Comment :
If those arabs were better poets than Muhammad as u say, can you find any material/ poems written by those great poets in the present times? if if there is any material can it be used to convince people to follow it, can you make a religion out of it ?
NO!
Muhammad was not a poet and Quran is not poetry , its the Word of Allah and that why its still peserved in its original form with millions of folllowers of islam all around the world. If it had been poetry or a self created material , it would have been vanished by now and had not become a threat for people like you who want to harm islam.

All ov the non beleivers here talking about peace, which they are not able to see in islam/muslims:
You dont need to go far to see this, I am new on this website and so far the posts that i have read clearly show the difference. Majority of the post written by non muslims show agitation and frustration, disrespect , foul language and delibrate effort to misinterpret islam and making every effort to insult Muhammad (pbuh) and Allah. Though we have been attacked YET the posts written by Muslims show more respect , peace, and control !! I have not seen any muslim making fun of Jesus (AS) ....

And for all those who are leaving islam:
if they had only been true muslims close to Allah and Muhammad (pbuh) they would have never left such beautiful religion. They are only doing it out of conveneience beacuse this makes most of their acts acceptable and legal without feeling guilty, but there is no compulsion in islam , u have the choice to become mr.ali sina as this world is not a place for saza( punishment ) and jaza( reward) , ull get it at the day of judgement which is not far...

So all of u scared there relax,

WE ARE THE BELEIVERS OF ONE ALLAH AND MUHAMMADIES, NO ONE CAN STOP THE SPREAD OF ISLAM AND NO ONE CAN DESTROY ISLAM EXCEPT ALLAH!!!