Miguel Mendex vs Ali Sina

Printer-friendly versionSend to friendPDF versionFrom: MIGUEL MENDEZ To: faithfreedom2@gmail.com Date: Apr 26, 2006 10:16 PMDEAR ALI SINA I'VE STUMBLED ON YOUR WEBSITE BY MISTAKE. I DID READ THE MISEDUCATION YOU ARE PROVIDING TO PEOPLE. I DO RESPECT YOUR BOLDNESS BUT NOT YOUR CHALLENGE. NOT BECAUSE I AGREE WITH YOU, I WON'T CHALLENGE YOU BECAUSE IT WILL BE MEANINGLESS. YOUR HAVE A ERRONEOUS-VIEW ABOUT ISLAM AND ITS PROPHET. YOU HAVE AN ADVANTAGE ON EVERYONE ELSE. WHICH IS GREAT! THE ACCUSE CAN NOT DEFEND THEM SELVES. FOR EXAMPLE I CAN ALSO PROVE THAT PROPHET LOT WAS AN ALCOHOLIC AND PRACTICED INCEST, SOLOMON PRACTICED POLYGAMY, JESUS SUFFERED FROM A MILD CASE OF SCHIZOPHRENIA THAT CAUSED A CLINICALLY SIGNIFICANT IMPAIRMENT THAT LEAD TO HIS DEATH, WHICH CAUSED THE FOLLOWERS TO SUFFER FROM DEMENTIA. STATING THEY SAW HIM RISE FROM THE GRAVE. I CAN GO ALL DAY WITH THESE ACCUSATION OR THESE SO-CALL DIAGNOSIS ON THESE PEOPLE WHO CAN NOT DEFEND THEM-SELVES. WHICH IS YOUR SUPERIOR POSITION ON THE SUBJECT. WITH YOUR PESSIMISTIC VIEW, PEOPLE MAY SAY IN YOUR STORY THAT YOU SUFFER FROM POST TRAUMATIC STRESS DISORDER AND MAYBE A MILD CASE OF DEPRESSION. WHICH MAY BE TRUE OR NOT???? BUT WHEN YOU'RE LONG GONE HOW WILL YOU DEFEND YOURSELF. I JUST WANT TO CONVEY TO YOU THAT ITS EASY TO KILL THE MESSENGER WHEN HE CAN NOT DEFEND HIMSELF BUT DIFFICULT TO FOLLOW THE MESSAGE FROM GOD. THERE ARE MANY TRUTHS AND MANY DISTORTION OF IT. WHICH ONE WILL YOU LIKE TO BE REMEMBERED BY. MAY GOD BLESS YOU AND OPEN YOUR HEART TO THE MANY TRUTHS. [color=purple] Dear Miguel, The dead are the dead. It is the living who are killing and beheading and threatening to kill millions in the name of the dead mohammed. It is those alive that we are trying to reach. You call it miseducation but you do not provide a single instance of where AliSina has lied or misstated. Why? Instead you have decided to resort to the standard defense that muslims resort to: everyone else was as bad as mohammed. Our concern is not with everyone else. What do you have to say about mohammed? What do you have to say about the living? Doubtless [/color] On 4/27/06, MIGUEL MENDEZ wrote: DEAR FFI I WASN'T TRYING TO SAY EVERYONE ELSE WAS AS BAD AS THE PROPHET. I WAS JUST TRYING TO CONVEY THAT A PERSON'S HISTORY IS IN THE HANDS OF THE AUTHOR AND IN THEIR POINT OF VIEW. IF YOU WAN'T ME TO PROVE THE INNOCENCE OF THE PROPHET. I DO NOT FEEL IM THE PERSON FOR THE JOB BUT I WILL GIVE A POINT OF VIEW THAT OTHER MUSLIMS MIGHT NOT APPROACH. FIRST AND FOREMOST THERE ARE MANY ACCOUNTS WITHIN ISLAMIC HISTORY THAT DESCRIBE THE PROPHET AS THE WALKING QURAN. WHICH WILL MEAN TO ME, THAT HE EMULATED AND PRACTICED THE LAWS AND SPIRITUALLITY THAT IS FOUND IN THE QURAN. WE ALSO MUST LOOK AT THE ERA THAT THE PROPHET WAS LIVING IN. WE ALSO MUST LEARN TO UNDERSTAND THAT GOD CREATED EVERYTHING IN EXISTENCE, SO IF GOD IS RESPONABLE FOR CREATING GOOD. HE WILL ALSO HAVE TO TAKE RESPONABLILITY FOR EVIL. NOW SOME OF YOUR ACCUSATIONS, [color=purple] Okay Miguel, let us take a look at each of your answers and see how the walking quran is said to have behaved. If that is the way the quran says for humans to behave then it is a pretty savage barbaric way for men to be.[/color] RAPE- THE LAW OF THE QURAN STATES YOU MUST BE MARRIED BEFORE HAVING SEX. IT ALSO STATES A MUSLIM MUST NOT BE A TRANSGRESSOR OR AN AGGRESSOR IN ANY AND ALL AFFAIRS OR SITUATIONS. WHICH INCLUDES BUSINESS MATTERS, SOCIAL EVENT, WAR, SEX AND ECT… SO IF HISTORY STATES HE WAS THE WALKING QURAN, WE MUST CONCLUDE THAT HE PRACTICES THE ACTIONS OF THE QURAN. SO THE PROPHET FORCING HIMSELF ON A WOMAN WILL BE COMPLETELY OUT OF CHARACTER AND AGAINST HIS OWN PRACTICE. [color=purple] Your prophet killed the fathers and brothers of women and then had sex with them the same day. That is recorded by muslim historians. Is that a transgression? What do you think the women who have just lost all their relatives felt? Then your prophet allowed women who had been captured in war to be turned into slaves and sanctioned his men to have sex with them before they are to be sold. Do you think the prisoner slaves wanted to have sex. Do you think his slaves wanted to have sex? Would you call that a transgression? Do you know either the quran or the history of Islam? You obviously have bought into the propoganda of the muslims. Read FFI and you will find all the events I tell you listed and references given to Islamic history written by muslims and the sayings of your prophet. Do you think that is the way the prophet of God should behave? [/color] PEDOPHILE- THIS IS A TRICKY SUBJECT, IN OUR COUNTRY YOU MUST BE 18 YRS. OLD IN ORDER TO HAVE SEX. IN OTHER COUNTRIES AND CULTURES, ONCE A GIRL HAS HER MENSTRUATION SHE'S OLD ENOUGH TO HAVE A CHILD AND GIVE BIRTH. NOW SCIENCE CONFIRMS THAT. IS IT RIGHT? THAT CAN ONLY BE DECIDED BY THE SOCIETY AND ITS LAWS. BUT THERE ARE MANY ACCOUNTS WITH IN ISLAM TRADITIONS THAT THE PROPHET DIDN'T ENTER I'ESHA UNTILL SHE BECAME OF AGE. SO WHAT EVER WAS ACCEPTABLE AGE FOR THIER SOCIETY COULD ONLY BE DEFIND BY THEM. NOW IF THE PARLIAMENT OF EUROPE PAST A LAW THAT A PERSON HAS TO BE 21 YRS. OLD IN ORDER TO HAVE SEX. WE (USA) WILL BE CONSIDERED PEDOPHILERS TO THEM. [color=purple] Pedophile is not a tricky subject. It is a simple subject. Muhammed was 55 years old. He had sex with a child. That is pedophila. Muhammed asked to marry Aiesha. Abu Bakr, aiesha's father, at first said no becuase he said muhammed was like a brother and how could he marry a brothers daughter. Do you understand? The pagan Abu Bakr recoiled at the idea of marrying a brother's daughter. But Muhammed said it was all right with allah. Then he is said to have "thighed" aiesha before she had her menstruation. That is the reason why Khomenii the imam of the shias, the leader of Iran, had said that it was okay for men to have sex with little babies. Read these links to see how depraved your muslims really are when it comes to pedophilia: [url=http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/JenniferKing50718p2.htm]Link[/url] [url=http://www.faithfreedom.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10197]Link[/url] [url=http://www.faithfreedom.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=253317#253317]Link[/url] Then muhammed is not the prophet of 7th century arabia. Muslims tell he is the prophet of all men for all time. That is the reason for muslims still marrying 6, 7 year olds in many muslim countries. It used to be the custom of many to kill their enemies and eat them. Are you telling me that cannabalism was a custom of some people and hence if someone claims to be a prophet it would be acceptable to have the prophet be a cannibal? I do not think so. Is this what your quran says? Is that what is meant by the walking quran? You see pedophilia is not as complicated as you thought. [/color] AN ASSASIN, MASS MURDER, TERRORIST THE QURAN FORBIDES THE KILLING OF THE INNOCENCE. IF PEOPLE DO OTHER WISE THEN THE ACTION FALLS ON THEM NOT ISLAM. IT WILL BE SAFE TO SAY, WHAT HAPPEN IN THE IRAQ PRISON IS NOT THE FAULT OF THE USA OR ARE WE. IT'S AN OLD STATEMENT WE SAY HERE IN OUR SO-CALL FREE STATES THAT "IT'S ALL FAIR IN LOVE AND WAR" IF THE PROPHET WAS ONE OF OUR FORE FATHERS HE WILL BE CONSIDERED A PATRIOT, A GREAT GENERAL AND A HERO. BUT SINCE HE'S AN ENEMY OF THE USA YOU CAN FILL IN THE BLANK FOR ME. GOD DESTROYED NATIONS FOR PRACTICING HOMO SEXUAL ICKEDNESS. THAT IS CONSIDERED A HATE CRIME HERE IN THE USA. SO FOR YOU TO JUGDE A MAN ON CRIMES THAT ARENT CONSIDERED CRIMES AT THAT TIME; IS HE STILL A CRIMINAL? MAN IS CREATED IN WEAKNESS, SO ANY OF THE PROPHETS WILL BE SUBJECTED TO ERROR. [color=purple] The problem has been and is in defining who is the innocent. Muslims have always lied and claimed that the non-muslims were not innocents and killed them. All you have to do is to see how non-muslims are treated in the muslim world to see the hypocrisy. You cannot even take a simple cross into saudi arabia. Chruches cannot be built in many muslim countries. Hindus have been put into prison for simply saying their prayers, etc. Muhammed made up lies and then killed people who he did not like. Killing an old poet because he did not like the fun he was making of muhammed!! Is that killing an innocent or not? What was the poet guilty of? Read the life of muhammed for yourself and stop mouthing propoganda of the muslims. Is having a preganent women killed because she criticised the assasination of an old man, killing an innocent? You defend pure wickedness of your prophet as weakness. You compare the prophet of God to greedy men. Is that how you want to compare your prophet? It is a simple lie on the part of the muslims who are telling you that the prophet did not kill innocents. Read his life for yourself. You can read many of the articles at FFI.[/color] BEHEADING IS A PRACTICE THAT STARTED TO PREVENT THE PERSON FROM SUFFERING WHEN EXECUTED. ONCE THE HEAD IS REMOVED THE FEELING OF PAIN IS ALSO REMOVED. THE PROPHET NEVER EVEN TOOK REVENGE FOR ANY PERSONAL REASON. [color=purple] Yes to cure a headache the treatment is to chop the head off. But Islamic beheading is not "chopping". Daniel pearl or Nick Berg were beheaded according to the Islamic method of beheading and have you heard the tapes? No you have not, else you would not have said some thing as absurd as you did. Okay if you think that is the way to be merciful, here read this sahih bukhari: Volume 8, Book 82, Number 796: Narrated Anas: A group of people from 'Ukl (tribe) came to the Prophet and they were living with the people of As-Suffa, but they became ill as the climate of Medina did not suit them, so they said, "O Allah's Apostle! Provide us with milk." The Prophet said, I see no other way for you than to use the camels of Allah's Apostle." So they went and drank the milk and urine of the camels, (as medicine) and became healthy and fat. Then they killed the shepherd and took the camels away. When a help-seeker came to Allah's Apostle, he sent some men in their pursuit, and they were captured and brought before mid day. The Prophet ordered for some iron pieces to be made red hot, and their eyes were branded with them and their hands and feet were cut off and were not cauterized. Then they were put at a place called Al-Harra, and when they asked for water to drink they were not given till they died. (Abu Qilaba said, "Those people committed theft and murder and fought against Allah and His Apostle.") Do you think the punishment for murder should be that your eyes are burnt, your limbs are cut and you are let to bleed to death and to deny you water as you are bleeding to death? Is that mercy? What kind of nonsense are you talking about? Muhammed was a vicious and a cruel man, and all your lies are not going to be able to hide that fact. You see the world is now a different place. Information is easy to get and easy to send. People are learning about how evil muhammed was and the muslims cannot kill those who are telling the truth. People who have simply bought into the lies of the muslims without checking and without thinking look like fools now. No one is going to believe you becuase you do not even take the time to check the facts for yourself. That is why you should read what AliSina says and check and see if he is lying or if he telling the turth. If AliSina is telling the truth then you are following are very brutal and evil man, and trying to tell the world to follow satan's spawn. Personal reasons? Was the killing of Abu Afak and Asma bint Marwan killing for personal reasons or shall we accept the usual "end justifies any and all means" that they stood in the way of spreading Islam, because with their criticism of Islam and Muhammed were doing great damage to the prophet's reputation? And that is how Islam and its true believers deal with its critics to this day: painful slaughter and not "chopping of the head" to avoid pain. [/color] SAHIH MUSLIM #5752 'A'isha, the wife of Allaah's Prophet (sallAllaahu alayhi wa sallam), said that whenever he had to choose between two things he adopted the easier one, provided it was nor sin, but if it was any sin he was the one wio was the farthest from it of the people; and Allaah's Messenger (sallAllaahu alayhi wa sallam) never took REVENGE from anyone because of his personal grievance, unless what Allaah, the Exalted and Glorious, had made inviolable had been violated. #5756 'A'isha reported that Allaah's Messenger (sallAllaahu alayhi wa sallam) never beat anyone with his hand, neither a woman nor a servant, but only, in the case when he had been fighting in the cause of Allaah and he never took REVENGE for anything unless the things made inviolable by Allaah were made violable; he then took REVENGE for Allaah, the Exalted and Glorious. I WILL LIKE TO END THIS E-MAIL ON THIS NOTE. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A PERFECT MAN… THE QURAN STATES MAN IS CREATED IN WEAKNESS AND IS SUBJECTED TO ERROR. THE PROPHET REPEATED MANY TIMES HE WAS ONLY A MAN. MAY GOD GUIDE US TO THE TRUTHS OF THIS WORLD. [color=purple] I hope you will take the time to educate yourself and find the truth about your evil prophet. Is it too much to ask that the prophet be a simple decent average man even if he is not a perfect man? Did he have to be downright evil? Doubtless. [/color]