Mark D. vs. Ali Sina
Re: Did Muhammad Perform any Miracles? by Ali Sina
Dear writer/editor:
I have read your article titled above. I pray to our God that you wrote this article in good faith. I also pray that you use your own measure when judging yourself as you do Muslims.
You wrote in your opening paragraph "... Muslims can see the errors of Christians Jews or Hindus, they are unable to see the absurdities in their own Faith". Any thinking intelligent person would refrain from reading your article at this point simply because what you extrapolate would apply to all Christians, Jews and Hindus. You assume the responsibility of being an outsider pointing the absurdities of Islam, so you must then admit that you are unable to see the absurdities in Christianity, even if it’s your new faith, you are a Christian now.
Since I read your article based more on the title than the content of your opening paragraph, I chose to continue. The umbrella thought that kept resurfacing as I read your points is that why do you think that a prophet needs to be able to perform miracles in order to be a prophet? John the Baptist never performed any miracles. Would Muhammad be any less of a prophet if he in fact never performed any miracles? What about the achievements of Islam after Muhammad's death? To take ignorant disbandants constantly overwhelmed in tribal wars and then teach them to pray, refrain from drugs and alcohol, perform good duties to themselves, families and communities, defeat the two major empires of the times the Romans and Byzantines...etc. Isn't that truly miraculous? How about the fact the Holy Quran has been preserved as it was given to Muhammad. Muslims today read the same book as their Muslims brothers did 1400 years ago. Can this be said of any other religion?
Finally, did any prophet of God perform miracles under their own powers? God with his great mercy is the performer of miracles. God split the sea and drowned the pharaoh, God created the miracle of Jesus and Adam/Eve, God cured the sick and put life back into the dead just to name few examples.
I would like to add that your opening remark is in fact offensive. There is no need to label other people's beliefs as "absurd". I would hope that any discussion by any religious person while reviewing another faith would refrain from using such disrespectful language. I hope that our reviews would be based on respect, if simply for pleasing our Lord the creator most Gracious.
With Sincerity and Respect,
Mark D.
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Hello Mark. D,
You say that Muhammad united ignorant disbanded Arabs, who were constantly overwhelmed in tribal wars to pray, refrain from drug and alcohol, perform good duties to themselves, families and communities, defeat the two major empires of the times the Romans and Byzantines.
First of all the Arabs were not as ignorant as they are depicted by Muslims. They owe their ignorance to Islam. The proof of the pudding is in eating it. Just look where Arabs and Muslims are in relation to other non-Muslims nations, in science, arts, culture and economy.
Arabs did sometimes fight with each other. There is nothing exceptional about that. This is the nature of human beings. We always did that no matter which part of the world we lived. However, after the Arabs converted to Islam the killings intensified. Muhammad himself, during his own lifetime, raided and looted dozens of towns and villages. He massacred and enslaved thousands or people. After his death those killings continued. Ordinary people became mercenaries and bandits and kept enriching themselves by raiding new territories and living off the spoils of war. What is so extraordinary in a band of terrorist gaining power? Hasn’t this been the case throughout the history?
So you believe that Islam’s achievements after Muhammad's death is a miracle. What are these achievements? Defeating two major empires, the Romans and the Byzantines! Actually it was the Persian and the Byzantines. But is this a miracle? What is so miraculous in raiding and butchering people, looting them, enslaving them and raping their women? Except the Mongols, no one thinks Genghis Khan was a holy man. In fact he is regarded as one of the most barbaric an ruthless men ever lived and yet he vanquished mighty empires and his army conquered from China to Europe.
You are engaging in a logical fallacy known as argumentum ad baculum or “might is right.” You are gravely mistaken. The fact that one wins in a battlefield is not proof of one’s truth.
Muslims won, both at the time of Muhammad and after him because they were ruthless and determined. They were a bunch of savage ideologue zombies and marauding criminals. Their victims were civilized people, living their lives, much like we, the non Muslims do today. In September 11, 2001, four of Muhammadan ideologues managed to take control of planes full of non-combatant civilians and then caused the death of nearly 3000 people. Was that another miracle of Islam? I know that many Muslims think so. But that is not true.
Truth can be determined in a debate, where ideas clash and not in battlefields?
Is the fact that Muslims waste their time five times a day to pray to a bogus deity of hate and war a good thing? These prayers are to numb your brain and stop you from thinking. They are exercises in futility. If God exists he does not need our prayer. He would rather see us helping on another and making this world a better place for our future generations.
Is prohibiting alcohol a good thing? Excess of everything is bad, including overeating. I lived in Italy. Italians drink wine every day and during all my years in Italy I never saw a drunk in the streets. There is no harm in drinking in moderation. There is more harm in overeating and smoking. Also use of drug is not prohibited in Islam. The Talibans, who live strictly by the rule of Islam, were the biggest producers of opium in Afghans and hashish is an invention of Muslims.
So as you see, what Muhammad brought is either useless or evil. The evil part is the jihad and in order that “fighting is good for you.”
Another evidence of the truth of Islam, according to your Islamic reasoning, is your claim that the Quran has been preserved unchanged. This is also a mistake. When Muhammad died the verses and suras of the Quran were scattered everywhere
Ahmad b. `Ali b. Muhammad al `Asqalani, ibn Hajar, quotes Zaid who said, “Abu Bakr sent for me on the occasion of the deaths of those killed in the Yemama wars. I found `Umar b. al Khattab with him. Abu Bakr said, "`Umar has just come to me and said, 'In the Yemama fighting death has dealt most severely with the qurra' and I fear it will deal with equal severity with them in other theatres of war and as a result much of the Qur'an will perish [d h b]. I am therefore of the opinion that you should command that the Qur'an be collected.'" Abu Bakr added, "I said to `Umar, 'How can we do what the Prophet never did?' `Umar replied that it was nonetheless a good act. He did not cease replying to my scruples until God reconciled me to the undertaking." Abu Bakr continued, "Zaid, you are young and intelligent and we know nothing to your discredit. You used to record the revelations for the Prophet, so pursue the Qur'an and collect it all together." By God! had they asked me to remove a mountain it could not have been more weighty than what they would now have me do in ordering me to collect the Qur'an. I therefore asked them how they could do what the Prophet had not done but Abu Bakr insisted that it was permissible. He did not cease replying to my scruples until God reconciled me to the undertaking as He had already reconciled Abu Bakr and `Umar. I thereupon pursued the Qur'an collecting it all together from palm-branches, flat stones and the memories of men. I found the last verse of sura al Tawba in the possession of Abu Khuzaima al Ansari, having found it with no one else, "There has now come to you..." to the end of the sura.” [Ahmad b. `Ali b. Muhammad al `Asqalani, ibn Hajar, "Fath al Bari", 13 vols, Cairo, 1939/1348, vol. 9, p. 229]
He adds, “The provision of a textus receptus (jam` al masahif `ala mushaf wahid, jam` al nas `ala mushaf) in which the root j m ` abandons the meaning 'to collect' to take on the force of 'collating', 'reconciling', is a different activity and has been attributed to only one of Muhammad's successors, `Uthman b. `Affan (A.D. 644-56). (p. 139)The alternative jam` al masahif view requires our assent to the contrary proposition. Not only had the Qur'an texts been organized, preserved and collected at a much earlier date, but this had been done on innumerable occasions and by innumerable persons. On the accession of the Prophet's third successor there existed such an unwieldy body of materials that it was not only possible but essential to establish a textus receptus ne varietur while many of those best qualified to bring this vital undertaking to a successful conclusion were still happily alive.” (p. 140)
What happed to all that ‘unwieldy body of the material?”
Othman in his wisdom decided to choose one version of the Quran and burn the rest.
How do we know that what he chose was the real Quran?
Do you see the absurdity of this claim which is uncritically rehashed by every Muslim?
Now, for the sake of argument let me agree with this bogus claim. Why the fact that a book has been preserved proves its truth? Who said the Bible is corrupted? The Bible was copied and translated to many languages since its early days and there is no discrepancy found in any old and dew version of the Bible. There are many ancient books, both religious and otherwise that are preserved. Does that mean these books are divine revelations? Muslims call it isteqrar. Its Latin name is argumentum ad antiquetatum. It is a logical fallacy. Things don’t become true just because they endure time.
Islam is based on a series of logical fallacies. Every argument that Muslims present as evidence of the truth of Islam is a fallacy. The truth of an argument can be established only in a battle of ideas. An argument is true only if it can withstand the probing of its adversaries.
You reluctantly read one of my articles and decided to write a rebuttal. If you had read more you probably would not feel offended, but rather enlightened and liberated.
Islam is a lie. You should not be offended by the truth. Can you prove me wrong? I promise to admit my error publicly should you or anyone shows my errors. If no one can prove me wrong then perhaps, I am right and Islam is indeed a false and diabolic faith. Why then any sane person would want to cling to something like that?
Oh please ALi Sina I request
Oh please ALi Sina
I request you to stop this site. Please dont do this our to rasool.What did he go to you? The slande rof allah the great ( pimp) and rasool (PBUH){ piss be upon him, Pus be upon him,pigs be upon him}. If I can lay my hands on you,I willwring your neck.Grrrrra.
Please please some one take this site down.Our allah will take care of you and your followers, W moslems are most peaceful religious people.We are 2 billion people( idiots) and our brothers all over are on the look out for you ali Zina!
Please please stop this slandering.This web site is a pig stye and this grabage site will go.Inshallah we will be here for a long time.
Hahaha pathetic moslems. Begging,pleading and threatening.Nothing seems to work. Allah help them
Ho hum, yawn, how boring!
Ho hum, yawn, how boring! Another angry Muslim demanding respect whilst giving none to all others. Taking offense whilst dishing it out by the bucket-full to all others. Dogmatic repetition of all the taqiyya propaganda taught in madrassas to innocent children and to naive dhimmis.
Where are all the learned moolas, shaikhs, imams, ayatollahs, moulanas, molvis, muftis? Stop sending us boys to do a man's job. Sorry ladies, this is Islam, so your voices must not be heard.
DEAR MARK i want to answer
DEAR MARK
i want to answer you as well..although u r in debeat wid Ali Sina but i too wanna clear you as well
Dear Mark...things should be Clear...so clearly states tht you Pray to you God...so i think there are Two gods...
ONE GOD of Bible
and Other Allah of Quran
(HE IS 101% RIGHT THIS IS WAT U PPL ARE DOING IN THESE DAYS...YOU CREAT PROBLEMS FOR HUMAN BEINGS...U DAMN CARE AB8 THE REALITY AND LOGICS..YOU JST BELIVE THE 1400 YEAR CULT IS ACCURATE..HOW COME...HOW WE KNOW...THERE ISNT ANY PROOF.MUHAMMED CLEAR THE THING QURAN IT SELF A MIRACL.
IS IT REALLY)
u r dont know the history of islam..its not we who are qouting,...its really History who is providing the evidence..as muslims claim tht Quran came to the world 27th of Ramadan(if i m wrong do correct me)..bt history proves even till death r even after death of Mohammed Quran was not compiled...
Next thing its wasnt happen on tht @7th Ramadan day..coz it was written according to history,,on Leaves and Bones and many other things...whn not compiled thn not written...so this claim is baseles..even not logical...so u dont wanna accept this coz its according to islamic belives....if u accept tht reallity u r infadel so u should b killed..so my advice not to accept and live peacfuly
there are thing Ali Sina qouted ab8 Problems in Quran..but my Knowledge says tht....If its NAZIAL(come directly from God) thn it shouldnt b handi capped....thn y ppl make changes on it...LIKE ZAER ZABAR(in arabic zaer zaber means can any body plz clear tht thing coz i dont know the english of tht zaer zabar)
Uthman first did tht..thn Omer and Hajaj Bin Yousaf...so putting zaer zabers on words change the whole meaning...so r u sure if Allah sent this thn who thy ppl are to change it again...y..either allah forget to put this things,,,r ppl are more intelligent thn allah so thy set it according to there knowledge.
and u r talking ab8 Mircals of John
i agree wid you John did not perform any Mirical....bt he never rape any girl...
he never have sex wid any slave girl...
Mr Mark think logically...why God send ProPhts...for the Peace and Love..not for killing PPl...
Raping there women...
if God want all this thn God can do widout any man...
it means God is not Love...GOd dont love Things Which HE made
either logical r illogical...
a rapist and sex lover cant b a Prophet...
hwo u can define....
SEX IS SEX
widout marriage its sex...
either wid slave girl r any other person...bt widout marriage sex is sex...and sex is sin...
he had army so ppl are afraid of him..so he can sex and fuck ...bt now can u fuk ur maid tell me..no way
she will send u to jail...
tell me if some one kill you father...your Brother in-law and you in front of sister and will ur sister accept tht person as her hubby and love and accpet his things happly...
and if yes..thn even tht muhammed did marry wid tht Jewish girl on tht nite...
he married next day...so on tht night sex wat we call.trial sex r HOLY trial sex..coz Mohammed did this...so it should b holy for you...bt not for us...
next Its a Law after Divorce women shuold not come out of her home for at least 40days..
bt mohammed married to his daughter in law next day whn his adopted son divorce her...all laws are banned on mohammed,,coz he got rite to made and Break the lawss.
Miricals of Mohammed
1.married wid 9year old girl
2. split the moon.(.wid any historical proof)
3. married more thn 12 wives
4. sex wid slave girls
5. rape girls
6.allow his followrs for temporay marraiges(http://www.islam-watch.org/Brahmachari/Mutah-Temporary-Marriage-in-Musli...)
7. kill inocent ppl
8. greatest mirical is quran
which say kill ur enemies.dont make frndship wid Jews and Christians.
9.give all rights to Women...
read and thn come again
dont fly widout wings..
it will hurt you
"Muslims today read the same
"Muslims today read the same book as their Muslims brothers did 1400 years ago" - This must be another miracle for the 2 million delusional idiots
Ali
The next miracle of Muhammad's Moon God will be the disappearance of this website - wishful thinking eh?
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".....How about the fact the
".....How about the fact the Holy Quran has been preserved as it was given to Muhammad......Can this be said of any other religion?"
Actually christians view of the bible is quite contary to the muslim view of the quran. We view the bible as an inspired word of God in the sense that the literal word itself may be meaningless but God himself through the Holy Spirit is capable of making the literal word lively. And by looking at how God dealt with israelites he didn't require words to disseminate information from one generation to the other because he knew that would not be an effective way. He carefully chosen few experiences that are essential for His plan and encoded them as the way of life through rituals of jews. For example the passover, the yom kippur, sukkot, etc. By doing this the information could be preserved for a long time, even during times of troubles. Even, Jesus did not leave behind any book. He only did few important things: extensive training of 12 students and the commemoration of Last Supper.
The whole bible is built on the grounds of few central events. So during the canonazation of the bible it was so easy to understand this is forgery and this is authentic. And editing one verse or the other did not really make a difference at the message of the bible.
Dr Sina has made several
Dr Sina has made several observations above and asked many questions. If the average devout or wavering Mooslim were to open his eyes to those observations and then to try honestly to answer these questions, he would probably become an Islamopostate.
I am sure that many Muslims of above-average intelligence will be able to see the truth of Dr Sina's words, if they just chill before they blow their top.
The following is a rule-of-thumb for encountering and coping with new ideas and is directed mostly to Mooslim readers:
Your reaction to words can show you how close to reality you are.
If the words of a statement offend you or make you uneasy, then those words are not in agreement with your reality model.
If the same words do not affend you, they are in agreement with your reality model.
If a word offends you then examine what it says and how it conflicts with your reality...and don't forget to examine your reality and determine how close or how far it is from objective truth...or how close. --Charles Daniel
Two entries from our Daffy Dawa Dictionary:
Mooslim--person, usually of Hindu extraction being devoutly enslaved to Allâh but envious of the devotional love of Krišna for his cows.
Islum--Sharía-compliant neighborhood.
And finally from our Department of Strangely Stoopid Black Dogma:
On the Divine Mohammedean policy of the Killing of Apostates:
"It's wise if you don't want everyone leaving Islam, cuz if the death penalty wasn't there, Muslims left and right would be dropping it like a hot turd."
And, Thank you, Dr Sina...for giving us the opportunity to take a couple of cheap shots at Mo's Minions.
Its Shafee al-Zindig, Poma,
Its Shafee al-Zindig, Poma, proudchristian, raja, proudkaffir and other who are zombies and delusional idiots and not my rasool and allhatala may you all suffer and rot in hell with your religion and this nerd M***F** Ali Sina
Dear Mark This is yet
Dear Mark
This is yet another attempt to sugar coat koran. you people create a web of graceful words to sheild the evil words in koran...islam and muslims went unchallenged for 100s of years but internet is doing a wonderful job now..you can spend your lifetime defending the indefensible...
Thanks
Dear Mark, Greetings
Dear Mark, Greetings brother.
I would like to draw your attention to many issues:
1. You say " so you must then admit that you are unable to see the absurdities in Christianity, even if it’s your new faith, you are a Christian now.
This is actually wrong. Dr. Sina is not a Christian. But he respects all faiths that are decent. Christianity is one such faith. It does not want to kill "infidels". It does not treat other human beings who are not Christian as "dirt". You probably just wanted to feel good about Islam by assuming Sina is a Christian, and maybe that is why he is so negative about Islam. That is not the case my friend. Islam condemns itself. The Qur'an is a terror manual. It is no more than a hate speech in many of its parts.
2. You say "What about the achievements of Islam after Muhammad’s death? To take ignorant disbandants constantly overwhelmed in tribal wars and then teach them to pray, refrain from drugs and alcohol, perform good duties to themselves, families and communities, defeat the two major empires of the times the Romans and Byzantines…etc. Isn’t that truly miraculous?
In an age where power and thugness ruled, Muhammad thrived. He collected a punch of bandits and became a warlord. He was no more than Billy the Kid, but on grand scale, and more evil. He killed innocent people, raped women, attacked peaceful tribes, attacked commercial caravans. Those are the true achievements you are proud of Mr. Darwish. You can read more on "The Challenge" on the top of your screen. Or read some of the articles I published on FFI and Islam Watch this year, and the past year.
3. You say "How about the fact the Holy Quran has been preserved as it was given to Muhammad. Muslims today read the same book as their Muslims brothers did 1400 years ago. Can this be said of any other religion?
Are you serious? Please see a 3-part study I published on the collection of the Qur'an on this site and on Islam Watch. Man, you are gravely mistaken here.
4. I strongly recommend you read brother Sina's Challenge before your write him an email like tha above. Your email indicates you are not familiar with what Muhammad and his band of thieves and criminals did. You see, anyone can say "be good", "be nice", "Help each other". Hitler said that many times. But the proof is in the pudding. Here is Muhammad's pudding. Please read the evidence. It is all documented from authentic sources:
http://www.faithfreedom.org/the-challenge/
5. Finally, as a bonus, I would like to say that the "Qur'an" is a very good and useful book indeed. Here is the evidence:
http://islam-watch.org/Kammuna/Quran-Good-Useful-Book.htm
Brother Mark, thank you. I hope you are willing to consider the evidence about Islam. Forget about other religions. We are not discussing them here. This is not a comparison between religions. We are just critically scrutinizing Islam. We have analyzed Islam, and found it to be pure Evil. We have analyzed Muhammad, through his actions. He was found to be no more than a sick man who is a thug, thief, assassin, criminal, rapist, ..etc..long list brother.
Anyway, thanks again. Peace
Muhammad is rejected to be a
Muhammad is rejected to be a prophet of God by different groups of people and for different reasons.
An atheist does not even consider the slightest possibility of the existance of God let alone the book full of asininities and violence.
A jew reject muhammad prophethood because the quran is antisemitic to the core.
A hindu is considered a polytheist, according to muhammad they are fuel in hell.
Christians reject muhammad because there is nowhere in the bible there is prelude of some one like muhammad (except those few verses refering to an anti Christ). The bible goes even to say that if anyone comes and preach any other message different to what the apostles have preached he/she is cursed (Galatians 1:9)
And the humanity as the whole cannot accept the prophethood of a man who has weird behaviors as those of muhammad. In today's age we call these type of people charlatans, debaucherers or cult developers. We have them even in Christianity.
The only people cherishing in the prophethood of muhammad are the gullibles, evil inclined, narcissists or muslims!
Mark says: "I would like to
Mark says:
"I would like to add that your opening remark is in fact offensive. There is no need to label other people’s beliefs as “absurd”. I would hope that any discussion by any religious person while reviewing another faith would refrain from using such disrespectful language. I hope that our reviews would be based on respect, if simply for pleasing our Lord the creator most Gracious."
There one of them goes again. They cannot (or will not) see beyond "insult, disrespectful language, hurt feelings, victimization". Cry-babies! (And how respectful are they themselves to Israel?). Arguably because they (are obliged to) think that their own religion is already perfect. And that "some of its followers interpret it wrongly, sometimes act atrociously because of other causes, but never because of Islam".
Why can't Muslims occasionally say, like many of us do, "I don't care you called other peoples belief absurd, I listened to the contents of your words, and I concede what you say is a weak point of my religion, thank you for pointing it out to me, inspiring me to improve my thoughts". Confident in the knowledge that Islam is so good it can easily afford a few mistakes, drawbacks.
And how can he know what pleases the Lord? Maybe the Lord is pleased with thinking and arguing, and improving people's thoughts, beliefsystems, in order to create ever more happy, peaceful, prosperous, free societies?
YES CHRISTAINS STILL REJECT
YES CHRISTAINS STILL REJECT HIM
COZ IN BIBLE IT IS WRITTEN AB8 HOLY SPIRIT
AND JESUS SAID IT WILL BE WID YOU FOREVER
BT MUHAMMED IS DEAD
Sina wrote: "If God exists
Sina wrote:
"If God exists he does not need our prayer. He would rather see us helping on another and making this world a better place for our future generations."
Now that's what I call straight talk, despite the fact that no single person can say with certainty that his/her prayers have been answered, the wishful zealots keep blathering words that does nothing but wither away their otherwise active and logic seeking brain cells.
As Hippocrates says:
"Prayer indeed is good, but while calling on the gods a man should himself lend a hand."
Now that's the problem with Muslims, instead of being pragmatic about whatever they do, they prefer to sit on their butts and communicate with the imaginaries for a better life, the Christians are better in this because apart from the hard core fundies that just won't seek proper medical treatments or ones that would start seeking treatment and then abruptly turn to their pastors for divine interventions, and the ones that just won't go far with education due to the imminent coming of armaggadon the majority are smarter than the Muslims.
I think Hippocrates in his time tried to avoid any hubris type charges that is why he didn't renounce prayer completely, of course Olympus or any greek god wasn't answering any prayer, but the people believed just like the believers of today, once the emotion is satisfied through some placebo effect, power of suggestion or any type of confirmation bias...the believer will go allahu akbar or hallelujahh.
It is just ridiculous to think a mother must pray to an all merciful god to relieve her little baby from cancer.
Proudchristian wrote
"An atheist does not even consider the slightest possibility of the existance of God let alone the book full of asininities and violence"
Most atheists I know will not agree with your statement above, an atheist is the opposite of theist, the latter beig "religious" while the former stands for "without religion" just like symmetrical and asymmetrical, the popular stance of the atheist I know or read about is that god is not disproven but rather unproven, if one can bring a sound evidence for his/her god, minus circular reasoning, that will be fair game, some nonreligious people don't even call themselves atheists, some are just humanist, nonreligious, agnostics, deists, freethinkers or secularists they just aren't into ancients beliefs that lacks a credible evidence and relies mainly on fear and selfish thinking (others can go to hell if I get to heaven). To a humanist, all the violence and suppression of freedom for women that the Muslims are into, any kind of self misery, toture, suppression of real knowledge that Christianity induces are all because people are gullible and insecure enough to refuse to not call a spade a spade, it makes whatever arguments they bring forth ridiculous because the evidence is just a circular one, reminds me this saying:
"I have never made but one prayer to God, a very short one: 'O Lord, make my enemies ridiculous.' And God granted it."....... Voltaire
Nice weekend to Y'all
#13 BD tHE bIBLE SAID fAITH
#13 BD tHE bIBLE SAID fAITH WITHOUT WORKS IS DEAD. WHILE PRAYING WE MUST WORK. wORK IN iSLAM IS ROBBING AND SEX AND LYING AND KILLING AND REPEATING ALLAHU AKBAR!
If a Muslims kills you it is not murder. Therefore the dont count the real crimes. Pedophilia is no crime in Islam.
Lying is no crime in Islam.
Honor killing is no crime in Islam.
Muhammad legalized every crime in the world except leaving Islam. Muslims get killed for that and becoming educated in order to kill intelligently.
The biggest crime in islam is
The biggest crime in islam is to think! Dont you dare think was allahmiyas instructions.Clear as a bell.SO moslems have stopped thinking for 1400 years and wanted every non moslem also to stop thinking. Islam means the thinking stopped 1400 years ago.
I wonder if Mark is related
I wonder if Mark is related to Nonie Darwish?
Its Shafee al-Zindig, Poma,
Its Shafee al-Zindig, Poma, proudchristian, raja, proudkaffir and other who are zombies and delusional idiots and not my rasool and allhatala may you all suffer and rot in hell with your religion and this nerd M***F** Ali Sina
munirani, which madarsa did u go to where your rasool is held in high regard? he was rather a rangeela rasool a pedo who married a 6 year old...used to rub his penis between aeysha thighs and when she became 9, he had sex with her...i have heard muslims praising him for self control until she turned 9...wow...your rasool is a dead man who left a legacy of shame that u muslims have to endure and defend...
until ofcourse your become an apostate
Proudkafir: "Oh please ALi
Proudkafir:
"Oh please ALi Sina
I request you to stop this site. Please dont do this our to rasool.What did he go to you? The slande rof allah the great ( pimp) and rasool (PBUH){ piss be upon him, Pus be upon him,pigs be upon him}. If I can lay my hands on you,I willwring your neck.Grrrrra.
Please please some one take this site down.Our allah will take care of you and your followers, W moslems are most peaceful religious people.We are 2 billion people( idiots) and our brothers all over are on the look out for you ali Zina!"
Now I really believe the person who wrote the above is in a severe mental distress and could be suffering from a number of mental disorders including borderline, paranoid, and bipolar personality disorders, severe clinical depression, hallucinations, dissociation, etc.
I also believe the above person gets some eerie kind of satisfaction by venting out his pent up anger due to his extreme frustration for being unable to achieve what he fantasies or fantasied. This persona may also have a strong belief that when he vents out his anger by writing derogatory remarks about certain beliefs, he is causing extreme pain in the followers of that belief. This could mean that at some subconscious level, this person wants to put them in as much pain as he himself is. And since this person may very well believe that he is being successful in achieving that, this person could also be a full-blown delusional.
I could be wrong, but lately I have gotten into this habit of diagnosing people by reading their posts on the Internet. Sorry, not my fault.
Correct.You have diagnosed
Correct.You have diagnosed correctly.This is exactly the state of mind of moslems! Stupid, obnoxious,violent.irrational,always bent on sex, always thinking of molesting child,extremely fearful of allah and hell fire.Your writing clearly reflects all the above
Hey proudkair: Look what you
Hey proudkair: Look what you babbled again!
"Correct.You have diagnosed correctly.This is exactly the state of mind of moslems! Stupid, obnoxious,violent.irrational,always bent on sex, always thinking of molesting child,extremely fearful of allah and hell fire."
Didn't I diagnose you?
Dear Mr. Pork xxxxxx!
Dear Mr. Pork xxxxxx!
I might be mistaken, but I believe your Pervert did perform some miracles. Unfortunately, not a single MUST-APE, apart from his Unholiness MonkeyMAD was an eye-witness of them.
As far as I can recall, it split the moon in two and it rode a female-headed horse called Buraq(wonder where its name comes from), and invented MuuuuuuBaboonHeella!
Not a single monkey was there at the moment.xxxxx! Mr.xxxx !, wouldn't you dare to deny these xxxxerlous truths stated by the Profit$$$ of xxxxx?
Some people argue about some Satanic verses sent by supposedly Gabriel, which forced to MuuuCowMAD to launch Q-RANDY 2.0. , as it was a yellow chicken afraid of being beaten by the meccans.
Besides, a writer employed by Mumm-RA-MAD the Naji made some changes in the unholy text, by approval of the Paedophile Pervert DumbleMAD itself. As you can see, this writer was mightier than Allah the moon god himself. If I were you,I'd pray for this writer instead!
Au revoir, xxxxxx!
Didn’t I diagnose you? 1. Do
1. Do you understand "satire"?
2. So you agree mooslims are Stupid, obnoxious,violent.irrational,always bent on sex, always thinking of molesting child,extremely fearful of allah and hell fire?
munirani wrote: Its Shafee
munirani wrote:
Its Shafee al-Zindig, Poma, proudchristian, raja, proudkaffir and other who are zombies and delusional idiots and not my rasool and allhatala may you all suffer and rot in hell with your religion and this nerd M***F** Ali Sina
Thanks. I prefer to rot in hell then be one of Allah's whores.
"Since I read your article
"Since I read your article based more on the title than the content of your opening paragraph, I chose to continue. The umbrella thought that kept resurfacing as I read your points is that why do you think that a prophet needs to be able to perform miracles in order to be a prophet? John the Baptist never performed any miracles."
No a prophet does not need to perform miracles in order to be a prophet. A prophet is a messenger of God, who foretells of future events to come, not lead the people "to the right path" as Islam claims.
defeat the two major empires of the times the Romans and Byzantines
Muslims did not defeat the romans, they fell apart long before Muhammed came along.
"I would like to add that your opening remark is in fact offensive. There is no need to label other people’s beliefs as “absurd”.
Anyone can say my beliefs are absurd, I have no problem with that. Remember we are in a democracy, not in some Islamic country.
dear oh dear. If my comments
dear oh dear.
If my comments did not prick your conscience and cause mental agony/pain( which I believe very few moslems have) you would not have specifically responded.Right? There are hundreds of comments and you chose to pick mine.This comment is close to reality and that's exactly what helpless moslems and ( you too) are thinking.See the munirani example,Deluded moslem mind hoping we all go to hell! HAHAHAH
Satire unfrotunately is a nonmoslem concept and moslems are sick,violent,stupid,idiotic etc.
Hey proudkafir, do you know
Hey proudkafir, do you know who laughs like 'HAHAHAH' in a serious conversation?
and what's about your comments 'pricking other people's conscience and causing mental.agony/pain?' Are you still making the mistake of analysing the entire world by your standards? you are pathetic. More than anything else.
continuum1 : No I do not
continuum1 : No I do not understand "satire". Why don't you explain? I just wanna see how much command an Iranian has on English
Marie wrote; Thanks. I prefer
Marie wrote;
Thanks. I prefer to rot in hell then be one of Allah’s whores.
You are indeed a whore. you all christian woman drinking alcohol and then dancing with some stanger guy and even kissing them in front of your parents. we all know how adultrous you are. you christian female have no shame. in my pakistan majority of whores are christians.
munirani: no you are
munirani: no you are mistaking. In pakistan, the majority of whore are from the neighbouring Afghanistan looking for easy 'bucks'. They look good too:)
PS: I was talking about the
PS: I was talking about the 'professional' whores. That is, those who charge for their services!
And Marie, I really wonder if
And Marie, I really wonder if anyone who's got the genitals on the outside could be qualified to be a whore!
What's this allah dalal???
What's this allah dalal??? Allah is a dalal supplying 72 virgins and 28 boys.Please dont laugh.this is islam a serious matter of death and life after death wit dalal.Hmmm There no laughing when discussing a serious matter like islam, pimp allah and the rapist rasool Okie dokie
Oh dear proudkafir, I never
Oh dear proudkafir, I never said that. I said who laughs like HAHAHA all of sudden during a serious discussion. Not a normal person I would say.
and what is dalal?
and what is dalal?
Moslems want this moslems
Moslems want this moslems want that etc.the list is ever growing and it will stop at moslems want all kafirs killed!
they want separate prayer area, want separate area for women in hospitals, schools, want prayer mads all over, want halal meat, want the dalal allah all over, want to scream over the mega phone about the dalal and rapist rasool, want to procreate as many as they like, marry as many as they like want slaves and right hand possessions, want want want.What do these bandicoots give in return to any society? A lot.
Poverty, for sure.
Population explosion.Ignorance,illiteracy. millions and millions of idiots,disease,riots, mindless killing violence, wanton destruction, prejuidice, women oppression, 5 times a day head banging habit, filth, stink, garbage, irrationality and any thing else you can think of. that will be the gift , ladies and gentleman , of the moslems to any society they emigrate from islamic sh1t holes.
Ok proudkafir, I think you
Ok proudkafir, I think you have reached your limit. Go to bed with a bottle of some hard liqueur.Continue on the path to nothingness.
I shall leave as well. Goodbye brothers and sisters! That was once again quite a lot of fun talking to 'all of you'. See ya.
Munni-Rani have u had sex
Munni-Rani have u had sex with a 60 yrs old when u were 6 yrs old.
Did he smack you for not sleeping with him when he wanted it.
Then u will know what ur ISLAM is.
Blue label is waiting fro me!
Blue label is waiting fro me!
Funny thing is when I disrobe
Funny thing is when I disrobe Islam , it gives me almost as much effect as Blue label does. Hmm
I like a methodical approach to this act of disrobing Islam .it's a serious business, mind you.
Use islamic verses properly and islam disrobes itself!
Its a serious thought process of a 7th century bedouin arab, who was wiping his back side on the sand.How much more inspired thoughts can you expect from this 7th century moron? Islam is the most scientific religion. Oh yeh scientific enough to say sun sets in a muddy pond under the throne of allah, who is sipping a glasof red wine on this throne?
Scientific enough to say the mountains are nailed to the earth just to prevent the earth shaking!!!
Stupidity has limits, but islamic stupidity is just like allah the pimp, no limits! Limitless absurdities, matched only by the asinine moslems stupidities.
The News Flash article "The
The News Flash article "The Statistical Analysis of Islamic Doctrines"
My, my, these people gone mad. Statistical tests do not work on the miracle of allah, the book of all sciences. Where the hell have they heard of science working against science?
sorry proudkafir, I just
sorry proudkafir, I just could not help. Why blue label? Because you are very rich, a connoisseur or both? Ot is it because you want to tell you know the name? Why not Indian Tharra? It is much stronger than the BL and gives you a kick you'd never forget. Plus, it only costs peanuts.
And do you know what we call the men who peep on other men 'wiping their backs on the sand'? Come on, I have already theorised that about Ali Sina. He didn't like it and moved my message to the garbage bin. Remember?
And i know 'disrobing' Islam kind of intoxicates you. Didn't I say earlier you are showing signs of multiple mental disorders and some extreme pent up anger due to a lot many factors, especially your frustration? Well, take my advice and try the Tharra. For starters, it suits your personality a lot more than Blue or any other color of label does. And second, ... well I'll think about it!
#28 God made liquor and said
#28 God made liquor and said to Noah drink anything you want and eat anything you want Genesis 9:3.
There are not many christians in Pakistan to have girls around. Muslims rape the Christians girls and call them whores. If a man has sex with a whore he is a whore lover. Therefore Muslims are the christian whore's lover. Imagine a Muslims whore lover. The christians are not allowed to be Christians and then you blame them. You two-faced holy behind sons of SATAN!
Muhammad your great example to follow did that an I expect Muslims to rape, screw slaves,sex babies, animals, smoke weed, not wine, like Muhammad while laying on a dead woman in the cemetery. See. JIHAD WATCH for Fr. Bostros comments from your own books. He is from Egypt and exposes all of the torrid sex scene of Prophet Muhammad. The great pedophile.
Yeah, whatever you say Raisin
Yeah, whatever you say Raisin Head. Pakistan was created for Muslims. Is that really a big damn surprise that there are 98 percent of them there?
And what does that mean?
"There are not many christians in Pakistan to have girls around."
and tell one thing y'all: why
and tell one thing y'all: why is it that you all are so much against a person who was merely interested in sex (as you say). Sex is a natural insticnt in human beings and animals. Now I have another theory about Ali Sina: Since that guy thinks only in black and white, right or wrong, I think sex or having too much sex is on the wrong end of his moral spectrum. Guys got issue about having sex. Ain't I right, Sina?
#43 iF GOD MADE ANYTHING
#43 iF GOD MADE ANYTHING BETTER THAN SEX HE KEPT IT TO HIMSELF.loooooooooooooL
But when you hurt other people it is wrong.
Sex babies
Sex animals and then sell the animals to the next village
In Africa Muslims was made marry the mule LOOOOOOOOOL
Sex with other women and passing germs
In Pakistan, there are not many Christians to have many whores for 98% of the Islamic population. Christians have been either killed or they fled.
In a mostl Christian land, they allow Muslims, yet the unholy Muslims are so evil they say thank by imposing those archaic laws of allah aka Muhammad from the 7th century on all people. After people treat them like humans they revert back to the animalistic stage. SEX is not appreciated. the men are the only ones to enjoy sex as the girls have their vaginas cut out. Is that fair?
All allah had to do was not make vaginas.
To Proudchristian. The bible
To Proudchristian. The bible have many errors. There are about 5000 ex of ancient bibles from around year 300 and there are more erros in them then there are words in the NT. the problem with translating the old text are that the greek versions did not separate words, so one big problem has allways been interpretation. Let me give you one example, how would you interpret this
godisnowhere
Raisin Head: You know what
Raisin Head:
You know what is better than sex? I am not sure but a lot of people say it's cocaine. But alcohol seems to be working just fine for you. And what about "All allah had to do was not make vaginas.". Don't tell me you prefer dicks over vaginas!
By the way, I have a
By the way, I have a universitydegree in textcritic of NT
tarzan. why don't you fix
tarzan. why don't you fix your spacebar first?