KN vs the FFI Staff

Printer-friendly versionSend to friendPDF versionFFI keeps emphasising that it is wrong to hate muslims. It is Islam and its teaching with which we have a problem. This is easy to forget that and to blame the muslims when one sees the evil of Islam being implemented by some muslims. I recently had an exchange of emails with a young muslim teenager whose courage and honesty is clearly a reminder of the wisdom of hate Islam but not the muslim. I wish I could say all young muslims were like this young man and so easily convinced, because they are not. But I am also sure that many many are, and merely require an honest exchange with someone who is willing to tell them the truth about Islam. And even those who are deeply imbedded in the teachings of Islam at the moment and curse us and hurl abuses at us have that humanity within them. Ali Sina has shown testimony of many muslims who faught with him incessantly and even cursed him, but yet came back to thank him when the seeds of doubt sown by FFI had bloomed and freed them from the evil of Islam. It is worth remembering even in the heat of the most involved argument with the muslims that it is wrong and counter productive to hate the human. Our beef has to be with Islam and not muslims, the primary victims of Islam. To FFI: Subject: I DARE YOU TO PUT THIS ON THE FRONT PAGE OF YOUR SITE Hi, i am a student studying in xxxxxx and i am a Muslim.Well though i do not qualify to be one coz i do not follow my religion and do regret at times.I have very little knowledge about my religion as i have always been around people in my life who were not much inclined towards religion.So while going through your website all i could make out is that the owner of this site is just one of the people who is serving the USA and its deep hidden motives and the followers are just blind slaves who r not seeing the real picture behind all this drama and hate vendetta which is being carried out.Whats puzzling about the owner of this site is that he just seems to be hell admant on maligning one religion called Islam.What i dont understand is that there are many practices which are followed in other religions like Christianity where a nun is not allowed to have sex throughout her life and so goes for the pope,also bible itself calls it a Cardinal sin in its testimony when adam accepts the apple and has it,christians were involved in barbaric genocides during crusades in which they even send young children for wars,how come these things are never highlited ,how ***** these things which can be used as flashpoints by other religion scholars are not mentioned by the owner of this site.How ***** the hate vendetta is carried out against only one religion,where as every religion possible in the world can be interpreted in a different manner and according to ones whims and fancies.For example,If i were to see a young lady breastfeeding her baby,i would look at it as beauty of nature but someoneelse like the owner of this site might look at the breasts of the young lady and have sexual desires,well thats his perception and the other is myne.As i have already said that i am not much learned in my religion but one things for sure, i am educated and do understand that no religion teaches violence may it be Hinduism,Islam,christianity,buddhism,jewism,.And that basically a suicide bomber who kills innocent civilians does not do it on the basis of Islam.Its not Islam vs christianity.Its the mighty vs poor,the oppressed vs the dictators.Im not supporting the terrorists but What happaens in Israel everyday where innocent people are killed by army is never described as terrorism,what an Indian guy feels in the dark lanes of Newyork city where abuses are hurled at him,thats not terrorism,What young children in lebanon feel when they become orphan because of bombings by isareli army,thats not linked to religion,the same way how can u link all the 1.1 bIllion muslims in world to terrorism and following a cult as u say.Every religion is wonderful,life is beautiful,some people who misinterpret religion and some people who commit atrocities cannot account for the whole faith.Its like saying George bush and the 30% of americans say that iraq war was right on their part and that killing of civilians in a war is part of War.Every second person in the world would agree with me saying that George bush is a Bastard,but that does not mean i say thAT all AMericans are bastards.My friend hate breeds hate,love breeds love,an eye for an eye would make the whole world Blind.Stop promoting USA s deep rooted ideology of maligning a particular religion and its followers.A Poor muslim in India,pakistan,dubai,melbourne,newyork has nothing to do with all this,he follows his faith,thats his personal matter,but do not play these dirty high level politics for a country which wants to control the world.There is a superpower above all of us and trust me it does play its part in ones life. [color=maroon]To K.N. K , You are immersed in conspiracy theories. If I were to ask Ali Sina or the editors to put everything on the front page because some one "dares" me to, then that is all there would be at the site. Your letter has nothing worthwhile. You may think about joining the FFI forum and there are quite a few member from Australia and they will tell you how they view Islam's impact on the autralians. Tell me did the US get JI to blow the bar in Bali? Tell me did the US get the lebanese to riot and insist on "islamic" values on that beach outside sydney? You can post what ever you want at the FFI forum and your posts will not be censored. Come and convince the community that they are all being manipulated to be pawns of the US. regards, doubtless. To K.N. Dear K, I reread you letter and I feel that I did not do justice to it with my reply. So I take the liberty of trying one more time. [/color] On 10/14/06, K.N. wrote: Hi, i am a student studying in xxxxxxx and i am a Muslim.Well though i do not qualify to be one coz i do not follow my religion and do regret at times.I have very little knowledge about my religion as i have always been around people in my life who were not much inclined towards religion. [color=maroon] You have been lucky for that reason. Why do people call those who were too involved with religion as "fundos" or why is that a mullah is considered an illiterate idiot among the people you are referring to? Am I correct in judging how the very religious are viewed in your "circle"?[/color] So while going through your website all i could make out is that the owner of this site is just one of the people who is serving the USA and its deep hidden motives and the followers are just blind slaves who r not seeing the real picture behind all this drama and hate vendetta which is being carried out. [color=maroon] That is not true. Ali Sina is not even an American. He is an iranian ex-muslim. [/color] Whats puzzling about the owner of this site is that he just seems to be hell admant on maligning one religion called Islam. [color=maroon] Because he has insights about Islam and he considers Islam to be a danger that no other religion poses in the present.[/color] What i dont understand is that there are many practices which are followed in other religions like Christianity where a nun is not allowed to have sex throughout her life and so goes for the pope,also bible itself calls it a Cardinal sin in its testimony when adam accepts the apple and has it,christians were involved in barbaric genocides during crusades in which they even send young children for wars,how come these things are never highlited , [color=maroon] Did you notice that you used the past tense describing the problems of christianity. Ali Sina considers Chrisitianity and Judaism to have been "defanged" and not a threat to humanity in the present. That cannot be said of Islam.[/color] how ***** these things which can be used as flashpoints by other religion scholars are not mentioned by the owner of this site.How ***** the hate vendetta is carried out against only one religion,where as every religion possible in the world can be interpreted in a different manner and according to ones whims and fancies. [color=maroon] The key reason is that other religions can be reformed and have been reformed and are no longer a threat to the peace of humans. Islam cannot be reformed and is posing a threat to the whole world in the present.[/color] For example,If i were to see a young lady breastfeeding her baby,i would look at it as beauty of nature but someoneelse like the owner of this site might look at the breasts of the young lady and have sexual desires,well thats his perception and the other is myne. [color=maroon] Interesting that you give an example that shows that you are not a muslim really. What are the chances of a woman breast feeding in public in a muslim country? Think about it? You have committed a sin against Allah. [/color] As i have already said that i am not much learned in my religion but one things for sure, i am educated and do understand that no religion teaches violence may it be Hinduism,Islam,christianity,buddhism,jewism,. [color=maroon] And there you are wrong. Islam does teach violence. That is the whole point. Please see some of Ali Sina's writings and see that Islam does teach violence against non-muslims and the Allah of Islam is a very vindictive and violent God against the non-muslims.[/color] And that basically a suicide bomber who kills innocent civilians does not do it on the basis of Islam.Its not Islam vs christianity.Its the mighty vs poor,the oppressed vs the dictators.Im not supporting the terrorists [color=maroon] Then why do the bombers and the terrorist quote the Quran all the time to justify their acts? Why do you think they do that? Do you think they do not know Islam? Okay one person may be wrong, but why is it that you have thousands upon thousands doing that? You say you do not know Islam and yet you know that those who quote the quran and say that they know Islam are wrong. Do you see that you defend islam without even knowing anything about it? [/color] but What happaens in Israel everyday where innocent people are killed by army is never described as terrorism, what an Indian guy feels in the dark lanes of Newyork city where abuses are hurled at him,thats not terrorism,What young children in lebanon feel when they become orphan because of bombings by isareli army,thats not linked to religion,the same way how can u link all the 1.1 bIllion muslims in world to terrorism and following a cult as u say. [color=maroon] Do you know how many many muslims have killed other muslims in the name of Islam? You hear the propoganda about how muslims are being oppressed by non-muslims, but do you know that muslims have killed far more muslims than the non-muslims ever did. Why is that? How come the muslims never ever complain or object to the muslims killing other muslims? I bet you do not even know where and when muslims have been killing other muslims? Here I will give you a hint, look up how many muslims killed other muslims in Algeria, Sudan, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Sudan, to begin with. Then try to see if you can find a muslim leader ever raising any objections to such horrendous killings. Saddam's sons used to put live iraqi muslims into meat grinders for fun, and show me a muslim leader objecting to that evil, or a mullah ever giving a fatwa against that. Why not?[/color] Every religion is wonderful,life is beautiful,some people who misinterpret religion and some people who commit atrocities cannot account for the whole faith.Its like saying George bush and the 30% of americans say that iraq war was right on their part and that killing of civilians in a war is part of War. [color=maroon] That is the whole point of FFI. Islam is not a religion. Islam is arab imperialism. Islam is an expansionist ideology. Islam is a death cult.[/color] Every second person in the world would agree with me saying that George bush is a Bastard,but that does not mean i say thAT all AMericans are bastards.My friend hate breeds hate,love breeds love,an eye for an eye would make the whole world Blind.Stop promoting USA s deep rooted ideology of maligning a particular religion and its followers. [color=maroon] What deep rooted ideology are you talking about? I know you have heard those words likely but please tell me what ideology are you talking about. Explain yourself.[/color] A Poor muslim in India,pakistan,dubai,melbourne,newyork has nothing to do with all this,he follows his faith,thats his personal matter,but do not play these dirty high level politics for a country which wants to control the world.There is a superpower above all of us and trust me it does play its part in ones life. [color=maroon] Tell me why are people who want to leave Islam put to death in muslim countries? Why does the islamic law have death penalty for apsotasy? Read the news about muslims in canada who are terrified of the religious muslims in canada and are afraid for their lives: [url=http://www.muslimcanadiancongress.org/] MCC asks Attorney General to Intervene in apostasy and blasphemy charges Moderate Muslims are being silenced by death threats[/url] TORONTO—The Muslim Canadian Congress has written to the Ontario Attorney General Michael Bryant, asking him to intervene, following "the recent pattern of allegations against moderate and liberal Muslims by Islamic fundamentalists, accusing the latter of being "anti-Islam" or "smearing Islam." In the letter, the President of the MCC said, "It seems these tactics from overseas are now being imported into Canada where ordinary liberal and moderate Muslims are being bullied into silence by well funded Islamist organisations." She wrote that in one case, "the name of a Muslim broadcaster was circulated to tens of thousands of people after labelling him as the top anti-Islam individual in the country." The letter said that on the surface this may seem to be an innocuous dispute within a minority community, but the danger such allegations present to individuals accused of apostasy and blas-phemy is serious, and are "thinly veiled death threats." .... You think that is a US conspiracy as well. Learn about Islam. Do yourself a favor. doubtless.[/color] To FFI Well,Gauging your response,im quite amused and now very sure that the owner of this site is a conspirator,someone who is paid huge amounts by american governement,so how much does America pay u?Do tell me.As i have already told u that i am a teenager who has no clue about Islam or for that matter any religion,but i do know that no religion teaches hatred.Being from an educated family for me humanity is of utmost importance.Let me give u a simple example-I am an Indian Muslim,my best friends from childhood who r like my brothers r all Hindus.There have been many hindu-muslim riots in India in past 15 years and one has organisations like VHP and bajrang dal who actually preach that muslims should be killed and they dont deserve to live in India and actually quote verses from Bhagwad gita.But u see like u i dont get paid by Pakistans ISI or USA corrupt government to tell other muslims see how muslims r being killed by hindus and that they are all culprits.That is not the case ,organisations like VHP or Bajrang dal do not represent my other hindu friends or secular indians,but websites like yours r criminal and have a deep hidden hate propaganda which is to slowly poison the brain of young people all over the world so that americas intrest are served.But my friend We all have a superpower above us and its watching,some day u will realise that the life u r leading is hollow and just licking AMERICA and murdering humanity for some million dollars is just not human.People r too smart or should i say a normal Indian is smart enough to understand the value of such websites.And i know u dont have the courage to put my last article on your websitecoz if u do then in that case people visiting your site will have some food for thought.Poor u,u have so much to loose. jai hind, [color=maroon] To K.N. Okay K, you do not think any religion teaches hate. And you did not answer a single question I asked but instead you retreat behind indian nationalism and your hindu friends. You did not even attemtpt to answer why the canadian muslims feel threatened. So I will ask you one question and you find the best answer and tell me whether that is teaching hate or not. If you can convince me that I am wrong, I will stop volunteering my time for FFI. So here it is: Why does Islamic law have death penalty for those who want to leave Islam? Why does Islam kill those who do not want to remain muslims because they no longer believe in Islam?[/color] Let us start from there and I will show you that Islam teaches hate. You do agree that killing is not a nice thing I hope. doubtless. To FFI: My Only request was that please publish my article on the front page of your website, i do not want to get into the details of what islam teaches is hate and no other religion has flaws,thats for people like u,its your daily job.Put my article up there,even if u put it up on the bottom,or on the top,or on the left hand side,its ok.I know u wont put it up,coz after people read that u wont be able to brainwash them,Its sad that u cannot put up what a 19 year old boy thinks about your website on the front page,And u call your website freedom of faith,what an irony? [color=maroon] To K.N. Okay. I will ask the editors of FFI to put your email exchange up on the front page if you atleast attempt to answer the question I asked you. I am sure they will post your email exchange if I request it. So here is the question again: Why does Islamic law have death penalty for those who want to leave Islam? Why does Islam kill those who do not want to remain muslims because they no longer believe in Islam?[/color] Now you are the one who claimed that Islam does not teach hate. Muslims always talk about no compulsion under Islam. Is killing someone not hate? You say you are in australia. Well here is the news of the father getting so upset that her daughter had left Islam that he killed her mother and wanted to kill her. [url=http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,20566159-5006786,00.html]Mother killed because daughter wanted to give up Islam[/url] And this is only a couple of days old news. So K, why do you insist on following a death cult? doubtless. To FFI im sorry,i asked a couple of people for the answer and the answer was not satisfactory,im sorry for having wasted ur time,i prefer being an agnostic. [color=maroon]To KN You have my respects. You are a good human and an honest one. I will be happy to answer any questions you have. And when you say that you are an agnostic then you are saying that you are not a muslim. You realise that, don't you. Good for you. Welcome to humanity. Please let me know if I can use your emails and publish them on the FFI website? I do not have to put your email address and I can take out anyother detail you want me to. Please let me know. reagards, doubtless[/color] P. S. Please keep in mind that muslims do get insanely upset when confronting that someone may be rejecting their Islam even partially like being an "agnostic". So be careful how you phrase your doubts to the muslims that you do not know.