Islamization of Europe and Policies to Prevent It

The entire non-Muslim worlds are afraid of two things: (1) a book by the name of Al-Qur’an that is made up of ink and paper, and (2) a man by the name of Muhammad who is long dead!

No one seems to be afraid of the blood thirsty and racist books like Bible and Talmud, or the war manual Gita, or even the Mein Kampf! No one seems to be afraid of Hitler, Stalin, Bush, Atomic Bomb, F-16, WMD, etc. either! But they are afraid of Muhammad and the Qur’an! Isn’t the Qur’an the Greatest Miracle for all times then?

Lets unite (Warning to all):
We should ask ourself what was so specific about the Muslim self-conscience that prevents it from getting integrated with any other? Why the Christians, Buddhists, Judeans, Sikhs or Jains can live in harmony with any country and enrich her culture, but the followers of Mohamed can not? The Islam is not just a total religion, it is a nationality. Its followers all over the world felt like part of God-chosen nation, which stands over the rest. The people who profess other religions are considered to be “impious” and in the case of the Hindus/ Buddhism, worse - for “pagan”. The Muslims would rather transform to the country where they stay rather then turn that into an Arab country, but they would never become real nationalist. Until they are minority in a certain country they would lead a closed life in their shell, keeping aside from the social and state life, but when they become a majority they would impose with an iron fist their understanding about the society over the other religious communities, without showing consideration for nothing.
Just see the other countries. Lebanon and Malaysia, bosnia, kosovo, palestine, kashmir, chechniya, Xinxiyan should be an eye openor for all of us.

There is no unity among muslims. they are united in 'Loot', 'rape', 'crime'. See the countries where they have destroyed all other religions but heavy ethnic fighting. In Turkey turks and kurds, azeri and persian, persian and arabs, arabs keep pakis and bangla as lowly. Among all muslims they consider bangladesh and africans as the lowest. No paki will marry bangaleshi, they consider then like vermin. No arab will marry a african. India helped bangaldesh to get independence now they are helping pakistan Taliban Osama supporter ISI to create terrorism among indian muslims. Specially bangaldeshi muslims under banner of several HUJI type are forwarding there holy agenda. Bangladesh is smaller than New jersey but has half the population of America. The people are over flowing there. They dont follow family plannig and run away to Burma , thailand and India. There they do robbery like muhammed, there women do prostitution but keep the faith as islam shamelessly. Due to excess breeding of muslims deforestation is rampant earlier 22 % forest was there now just 6 % and that too will become zero. Due to this land loss is happening and still they cling on to Islam.

See the logic of JAH, its called reverse logic if you discuss about AIDS and tell its horror and how to stop it the person with AIDS think see they are discussing AIDS control so it must be great thing to happen to manking.
Islam is like snake, when initally it came up few noticed it it started bitting people and people started dying , but later on few observed that its bite is creating death. Now Non muslim world knows about islam and just for snake a long stick is necessary similarly a hard look and crticism is necessary for islam. Just like after seeing shit we make our expression, we should do to muslims.

# 1. JAH Says:
"Isn’t the Qur’an the Greatest Miracle for all times then?"

It is the usual sh*t you spew. The Al-Qur’an is not a miracle. It is Muhammed's vomit.

#1. JAH Says: Qur’an! Isn’t the Qur’an the Greatest Miracle for all times then?
May be its news for him, birds of the same feather flock together. Evil people are attracted towards the koranic poop for the same reason as flies are attracted in droves towards any poop.
The Mafia type people need a manual/instruction booklet, they find everything they need in the terrorism manual called koran. They even find a sock puppet to to suppress their guilty conscious "in the name of allah". See they even chant "allah hu akbar" while beheading,stoning,bombing,killing,looting,raping...etc...
People calling this a miracle, really need to test their I.Q.

What's wrong with the Forum? Everything seems to be typed in Red, or is there something wrong with my laptop?

Maybe allah finally caught up with you?..
Try the next page, on page one I am getting the comments in bold rather than red...

lol, a-comment. we seem to have a lot of trolls in the Forum, I think the Moderators should do something about it. Many of the posts are stupid and irrelevant to the topic and others are downright abusive and insulting.

Dear Ibrahim
Actually the trolls are the useful idiots of islam for this website. It clearly shows the neurons available with the muslims vis a vie non muslims.
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Trolls can find science in the koran, the science of birth, setting of the sun in the muddy pool....formation of heaven and earth, no wonder they are at the bottom of the Nobel league.
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Miracle in the koran it teaches circular reasoning,
Muslim Claim: Mo is the prophet of allah.
What is the proof?
Muslim proof: The koran/allah vouches for it as ,
Our question: who wrote the koran?
Muslims: Err..Mo...via unseen unknown jibreel.
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Religion of peace (pieces) in the koran, pious acts in the koran of raping, pedophilia, beheading,stoning, looting. Even after this the trolls feel mo was the best man who walked the earth.
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The best part is on inheritance, allah/mo can't even count.
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They actually make me look smarter than I am. Even a Phd. like Pete Rottier can't reply me back while defending them.

Muslim always say we take things out of context. Well was the word black out of context. Was the words black face is cursed out of context and white face is blessed. Sura 3:106 and Jews and christians are apes and pigs out of context? NO!

xxxxx Raisin Head

Where in Sura 3:106 does it say that Jews and christians are apes and pigs?

003.106
YUSUFALI: On the Day when some faces will be (lit up with) white, and some faces will be (in the gloom of) black: To those whose faces will be black, (will be said): "Did ye reject Faith after accepting it? Taste then the penalty for rejecting Faith."

You xxxx.

@Dumb Raisin Head,

No matter whether your face is black or white, when you will be burned in Christian hell, your face will surely turn into black! You are an ignorant chap.

@Dumb Raisin Head,

Nowhere in the Quran does it say that Jews and christians are pigs. However, it does say that a group of bad Jews were transformed into apes. Here is the context:

The verses 2:65 and 7:165 refer to a group of bad Jews who transgressed in the matter of the Sabbath and other prohibitions of God (see the verses 2:63-66 and 7:164-166 for clarification), who have even been condemned to death in the Bible for the same (Exodus 31:14)!

The kafir world is awake and taking note of the spreading stink called islam.The kafir world also noticed that the stink is deadly and is taking actions to prevent the spread of the crap called islam.
You are an indian moslem worm and your rantings here make no difference to you arab masters,Good dogy.They might just say

Well FF67, bombing the Kabba and Masjid Al Haram will crush the Muslim belief that Islam cannot be challanged. THe Kuffar should raze the entire structure at Mecca by using sheer brute force.
This will force many Muslims into rethinking their position on Islam and allah. This would, however, require a lot of conviction on the part of Kafir Givernments and I really don't see this happening.

#17 Ibrahim, destroying the kaaba vulva will destroy MUST-APE's compass, they will never more know in which direction to bend their asses. Furthermore, the blackstone could be pulverized and its dust could be scattered to the wind , so that MUST-APEs start licking the ground in search for the unholy stone!

As for "force many Muslims into rethinking their position on Islam and allah", my guess is it will remain the same: butts up, heads down, allowing the Pervert of Pee to have a chance!

The only final solution to help integrate MUST-APEs into any ordinary society is by starting some facilities located in Birkenau,Treblinka, Auschwitz and send them into eternal vacation.

After reading many debates " Ali Sina Vs Muslim Scholars " I found Ali Sina has not yet met his match.

Request for all Indian Muslim and Infidel readers to invite--
The great M.J. Akbar "managing director of The Asian Age, a daily multi-edition Indian newspaper with an Islamic perspective." to have a debate with Ali Sina. I don't know if M.J. Akbar unlike jerk off Zakir Naik will dare to face Ali Sina.

After all Muslims are all cowards like their pedo. prophet Mo. Tuck their dirty rabid tail as soon as they smell some threat to their vile pitiable existence.

A000Z, MJ Akbar hardly knows anything about Islam to debate Ali Sina. I wrote to him once and he showed ignorance of the Quraiza massaceres, when I showed him the hadith , he probabaly spammed or banned my ID>

Or we could all try together. All the mebers on the FFI form could send him Emails asking him to debate Ali Sina. If too many people Email him, I am sure he will have to do something about it.

# 21. ibrahim Says:

---If too many people Email him, I am sure he will have to do something about it.---

That's a good idea. But--

I doubt if any SOPig Muslim will take the initiative to invite the SOPig M.J.Akbar.

Ibrahim ; can you post the link ,where we all can send e.mails to this SOPig.

#14 sURA 5:60 CALLED JEWS AND CHRISTIANS APES AND PIGS. Muhammad even said allah turned jews into rats. Allah needs to make up his mind.
Sura said black faces are cursed and whitefaces are blessed. Sura 3:106
Muhammad hated black anything. Black dogs esp because a black dog caught him stealing eggs-Lebanon story.
Hadith 9:162,3 Black women are a sign of a bad disease
Tabari 11: 11-26 says Allah created Africans black to be slaves to Caucasians
Ishaq 243 says a black man is less than a donkey's penis

If allah hated blacks so much why even waste the time trying to say he was so merciful, and causing misery to black people. Afterall, blacks are human too.
Black Muslims are as stupid as you, a Muslim. Black men rob, lie, fornicate, sex kids, just like you do. See just because you are maybe not black, blacks do as you. Blacks also refuse to do as you do. Many blacks are non-Muslim, and that makes them more intelligent than you! Most blacks dont serve allah or believe in beating women as you do sura 4:34. Most black women dont wear Arab do-rags on their heads as muslimah. Most black women are not as stupid as muslimahs according to Tabari1:280. When black women sit for hours getting braids, they want everyone to see how beautiful it is. Most black women will kick a man's behind if he puts his hands on her. Most American black women are educated and can take care of her own black self.

Now since you have to use the word JAH which means praise Jehovah in Hebrew, you are a contradiction of Islam, because he hated Jews and didnt know the word as Jews didnt pronounce it. The KJV ofthe Bible used the word.
Why put JAH above Illah or in Islam Allah a stolen word from King Vikram's religion of Santana Dhrama.

[...] is an interesting article over a Faith Freedom entitled ‘Islamization of Europe and Policies to Prevent It’.  The article outlines a model of Islamisation, with countries passing through a variety of [...]

Whats the difference between animals and humans. Human can think rationally. Thus there cant be any improvement in animals as they will do the same, breed, hunt, eat, sleep and die. Same story. but humans have observational skill, he started observing and slowly slowly man can do almost any thing called miracle. It can fly, can talk within secs another person in the globe. Thus science has to move forward so that no body is hungry and everybody lives a good life.
* Mohomet's son Ibrahim died after sometime , why he cant help him to live. So called apostle?? In fact his some son and daughter died after birth, which a normal good doctor can save now for same disease. But these guys will attack doctors also as most doctors are non-muslims.
* Why cant he tell how the sucession will happen after his death. He died due to over excitation in sex, and lo sudenly brutal fight for succesion started.
* Why his final progeny has died in battle of karbala????
Some muslims say see we are breeding faster and have 1.2 to 1.6 million people. But they dont know atheist Chinese are 1.3 million and they started 1-child policy in 1979 otherwise they would have been min 1.8 miilion, thus brreding like animals is not not a great thing. They have choosen quantity for quality, normally they have very very low IQ. They have aggressive tendencies.
Look the birth defects among muslims also.
http://sheikyermami.com/2009/04/22/muslim-inbreeding-causing-surge-in-bi...

Yes, Pathfinder, humans can think rationally, they can be held accountable. So we should be held accountable and the Muslims also, as we respect all as the same rational beings. I was reading your posts about "Infidels should unite". I think so too, somewhere in the future. I think many Muslims already think globally, they already follow a dream of what they are FOR, often being very committed to it. Their loyalty often is to the worldwide UMMAH, instead of to the country they live in.

The followers of all the other big faiths should in the future come together, formulate a common global positive goal, of equal rights and opportunities for the followers of all faiths, everywhere. So no domination OVER Muslims either.

Right now Iran is on the verge of acquiring an atomic weapon. There was this analysis of a weapons-expert, I think it was somewhere on Daniel Pipes'website; Anthony Cordesman. His analysis stated that when Iran would be foolish enough to attack Israel with atomic weapons, Israel would then retaliate. And there is really no telling what a wounded or even dying Israeli state would do. But we know what it COULD do, and that is devastating not only Iran, but many of its traditional Islamic enemies also, so as to prevent them from profiting from a destruction of Israels defence-capabilities, finishing the job so to speak.

“Islamization of Europe and Policies to Prevent It”

In my opion the human mind once set free, as it is in most European countries, is the most constructive weapon against any theist. European soceities have already reached a point in human history that are beyound Islamization and any infusion of any doctrine or ideology into these soceities, that tends to enslave man kind, may be tolerated, but will surly be corrupted and demise with time. We have seen this with communism and is ongoing on religion in general. As such advancement of Islam in to these societies may be the achillis heel rather then its dominance and this may led to its world wide decline.

#27
Don't worry FF67, Treblinka is right there, for anyone to start over. Just send some MUST-APEs on vacation every year.

Sometimes I feel encourage about people leaving Islam but is it really affecting the birth ratio of these rats?

By the way, there's a really amazing video in yoututbe in which the maker was trying to convince the Muslims to see how offensive it is when you replace the name infidels in the Qur'an to Muslims. The person didn't quite reallize the impact of his video especially to me. I noticed that the terms infidels and non-believers in the Qur'an are actually referring to the Muslims themselves. When you see what the Muslims are going through today especially in Israel, to my surprise the Muslims are actually the ones who are hiding behind the trees and rocks and the trees and rocks are the ones calling out on the Jews to kill the Muslims by their unmanned aircraft and Israeli spies embedded in the Muslim communities. Muslims are the ones killing Muslims, killing them where ever you can find Muslims in any strategem, whether suicide bombing, IED in the mosques, or just killing each other for being Shia or Sunni.

Sometimes I think the best way to get rid of Muslims is to treat them like some kind of virus. Contain them and let them kill off each other, and then we'll destroy their Kabaa once it's the only thing standing in a Muslim land.

I think as the Europe will become islamicized and % of muslims increase europe will become poorer. As deveopment = 1/ muslim %. Development is inversely proportional to Muslim population growth. When France will reach around 30 %muslim then it would be too poor and become basket case and they will realise, either they will force muslims to convert or they will balkanize and have one Free France (aka vichy France) and rest Islamistan.Similarly in all europe pockets of cancer like unites states of Euroislamistan will be there.
Again some leftist politisian will ask for immigration of poor muslims from those states. Same cycle continue...........................................

Islamization of Europe will be bad for the Arabs and Africans. The Islamized white Europeans would be more brutal and violence prone colonizers akin the the Turks. And a second round of world colonization cannot be ruled out. First they would venture into the Arab heartlands to bring purer form if Islam just like the Taliban are attempting to do in Muslim Pakistan. Then, they would seek to do the same in the next vulnerable real-estate. That would be Africa. It will not be a preety sight. Millions of Arabs and Africans will first die before the Muslim Europeans venture or attempt to venture into other lands.

From the article: "An exceptional case is that the phases 4-5 are more or less bypassed, and Muslims are allowed to grow to become a majority in a country."

This is not an exceptional case but a scary certainty that will materialise within the next 60 years. But then again, there's a chance of a huge asteroid hitting the earth within the next 60 years.

http://blog.taragana.com/n/growing-muslim-population-has-european-politi...

#18. Islamophobic Says:
Ibrahim, destroying the kaaba vulva will destroy MUST-APE’s compass, they will never more know in which direction to bend their asses.

It is strange that while Muslims prostrate towards Mecca to respect Allah, they also disrespect Allah by pointing their asses in the direction of heaven where Allah resides. But then again, if Allah is everywhere, why should they prostrate towards Mecaa?

#32. pedomo Says:
This is not an exceptional case but a scary certainty that will materialise within the next 60 years. But then again, there’s a chance of a huge asteroid hitting the earth within the next 60 years.

Another link:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,510364,00.html

FreedomFighter67:

To bomb kaba or Masjid Al Haram with an unmanned aerial vehicle would be a cruel thing to do. I certainly believe that we should give that honor to either Robert Spencer or Ali Sina.If they don't wanna do it, I'll do it myself.

Another reason not to use a UAV is that they only got the firepower to devastate the kaba itself, not the surrounding mosque. Thus, I'd rather use a B2 or a B1B.

Oh, and to the author of this article: Norway is approaching level C with a couple of no-go zones in Oslo. However, Sweden with it's very own Rosengaard is well within this level. At present, the swedish police avoids to go into these areas.

If we nuke the ka'ba, then there's nothing left of it anymore.. It evaporates. It would be a nice payback for 9/11, wouldn't it?

If kaba gone then muslims will burst like balloons, they will take sword knife etc kill all non muslims like christians, hindus, jews, buddhist etc in there area. Before doing that all non muslims should be protected from the reach of muslims.
It will be like fantasy movies when master ship gone all other evil are defused.

Earlier there was no birth control pills, condom was there, so non muslims also used to have many children, but muslims used to suffer from many diseases and so they lost many children within themselves, also they used to kill within themselves. But in world war 2 onwards western world used birth pills, abosrtion, condoms etc and also men and women became fully equal partners in society but muslims got the advantage of modern medicine so there mortailty rate decreased, but they avaoided birth control, condoms etc and see they still have 6-14 approx children, In bangladesh they increased them from 25 million in 1947 to 150 million in 2007. As per calculation by 2100 they will be 850 million more than whole europe population , now think of all other countries. Muslims will increase to 7 million by 2100 while nonmuslims to 4 million if they are not killed by islmaic Jihad...................................

I mean 7 billion muslims in 2100 while nonmuslims 4 billion.

Yes, demography is the key. I heard that the population of the world at 2050 is estimated at 9,5 to 10 billion, then it starts to decline. Urbanisation is going on rapidly and in cities people eventually get much less children. Only in the countryside people get many children, who go to the cities, but when the cities contain more than 50 % of humans, human growth will go in reverse, or so I heard.

And most countries went through a cycle of getting less deaths, than after a time-lag also less births, so as to restore the balance between deaths and births. Europeans, Americans, Japanese etc already went through it, and now the Brazilians and Thais for instance are getting deaths and births in balance.

Also when women get more equal rights and autonomy the number of children diminish. So it is important that we endeavour to let as many women as possible get a good education and eventual economic independence. This sort of women usually don't get loads of children.

But in the meantime demography is heavily on the side of the Muslims and the followers of other faiths, life-convictions at least should become aware of this and of the nature of Islam and the beliefs, designs, loyalties and actions of the Muslims. In order to defend their own faiths and democracy, for their descendants in the 21st century.

SpacemanSpiff Says: 1.FreedomFighter67:
To bomb kaba or Masjid Al Haram with an unmanned aerial vehicle would be a cruel thing to do. I certainly believe that we should give that honor to either Robert Spencer or Ali Sina.If they don’t wanna do it, I’ll do it myself.
Another reason not to use a UAV is that they only got the firepower to devastate the kaba itself, not the surrounding mosque. Thus, I’d rather use a B2 or a B1B.

If we nuke the ka’ba, then there’s nothing left of it anymore.. It evaporates. It would be a nice payback for 9/11, wouldn’t it?

My response:
To destroy the Kabaa is to destroy the Islamic belief that Allah is all powerful, thus bringing forth doubt to the Muslim mind that Islam is true. The surrounding buildings don’t matter at all. Muslims would probably retaliate, but as long as we are ready and meet them with brute force, they’ll realize even more that Allah can’t protect them. Humiliation is the perfect medicine for low-self esteemed individuals. It may sound ironic but it works.

The second alternative which takes longer to achieve to destroy Islam is to let the Saudi government go bankrupt by stopping our addiction to fossil fuel. Without the Saudi financial support, the rest of the madrassas which relies on it will also disappear. Once again, humiliation will eat up the false Islamic pride that keeps the Muslim minds remain in captivity of ignorance and stupidity.

The Islamization of Europe is inevitible. Like it or not, Euorpe will be an islamic dominated continent in another 30 years time. I think we would be seeing an Islamic Europe within our lifetimes.
This is one of the reasons why the RC church is getting its pants wet, worrying about the future of the church which is not going to be very good.
Muslims believe that Europe was gifted to them by allah to be Dar As Salam.
All they need to do is to fight for it, and that is exactly what they are going to do when the time comes.
To counteract this the RC is trying to gain foothold in countries like India from where they think they will recruit the future footsoldeirs of chritianity to defend the Church. This is the reason why the Chruches in India are working overtime to secure conversions.
Even today there are hardly any nuns left in the Catholic institutions who are of European origin. Most of these nuns of imported from countries like India and Phillipines. These nuns form an intergral part of the health care services which the Catholic Chruches provide.
Islam is pushing its frontiers beyong Arabia and is now almost at the gates of the vatican. Kossovo, which is the hotbed of Islamic millitancy is a mere 100 miles from Rome.
Chechnya has Islamic fighters from all over the world.
So Europe is facing a threat both from inside as well as outside.
Sooner than later Europe will not have enough indegenous population left to defend it, and then the Muslim armies will strike, while at the same time the Muslims living in Europe will rebel agains the state.
The outcome is quite predictable.

Ibrahim, in todays world there's no winning against Europe. What we're seeing now is an acceptance of islam like any other religion. It is utmost stupid, but that is the case. If we at some point resist in Europe, then we can engage in a war which noone wins. It's called nuclear war and if it is the only option, it will happen.

It would be the end of today's world. Let's nuke kaba today!

yup, like revelation in the bible big nation join together, and the antichrist,
may be it meant to be that way, dont really like to say this.European never learnt, after all this craziness, london bombing, the killing of theo in holland, riot in france,seems like thats just not enough to wake them up, or it just simply to fullfill the book?

on the other hand, apart from nuke, maybe look for alternate energy apart from oil, may be some politician will start showing true color, as we not dependent on them, some others just still complete ignorant, too comfy to worry, never look out through the window, they think is just like another friendlly gay movement campaign, sure they like it up the arse..

Gay pride meeting is now going to Iraq, did you hear.

To 27, FF67; I know how you feel, about these kind Western people, who think you are attacking or denigrating those "poor Muslims", when you just try to tell them what Islam is about, and what its followers do and what threat they pose. But Geert Wilders has been going up in the polls and his party is now the second biggest party in Holland. That Comforts me. Maybe the new video "Muslim Demographics" will wake more Westerners up. I think Geert Wilders' party should use it a lot.

But I also heard about conversions out of Islam, I heard that many of the people of Islamic descent in UK, France, maybe in Holland, Belgium, Germany too, are already ex-muslim, just not saying it openly. Maybe Islam will go the same way the Christian church went, namely very much down, in the 20th century.

And apostasy also seems rife in Iran and in Africa. Also in the West the Islamic women have experienced freedom, and Islamic boys are very impopular with them, there were articles about that. Maybe democracy can win through the women eventually. Many of them are so "asleep, unaware of the danger", so disinterested, or even supporting the followers of this religion that can be so oppressive for women, whereas they should unite and protect their rights, I feel.

And when as many women as possible get a good education and can pursue life-long-careers, then they will want to be free and get only a few children. So let us all be strong support gender-equality, everywhere!!! After all, they form half of mankind! And by the way, let us support gays too, they are supposed to be 10 % of mankind everywhere, and they are sure to be on our side!!!

Excellent article.

here some news from land downunder

"THE proposed Islamic school near Camden has been rejected by the NSW Land and Environment Court ..........he rejected plans ....because the development would not be in keeping with Camden's rural character and heritage"

try to post this website address on the comment section, guess what? my comment did't pass moderation?#%@!

Demsci,
heard the news about greert wilder party, give a bit of relief,and looks like the right wing accros eu, get a lot of swing as well, this is developing news, so hopefullylot of european try to find out themself what the fuss about this quran

Ibnsahr,

Yesterday, 4th june was election day in Europe for European Parliament in Brussels. Only 40 % of the voters voted, but that is because Europe is not such an interesting issue for most Dutch. However the party of Geert Wilders did outstandingly well and it became the 2nd largest party in Holland, at least in European Parliament.

You know, his party was against giving away power to European Union at the cost of Dutch independence, but I am all for a strong European State. I differ a lot from him. I think he is negative, thriving mostly on complaining. Also I think highly of his competition in parliament. The other parties are more positive and have better strategies with most issues I feel.

But the reason I still voted for his party was the way in which all these other parties deal with the threat of Islam. They are politically correct and seem to equate criticism of, defense, protest against all Islamic teaching and behavior as disrespectful to the Dutch Muslims. But I think globally and I think Islamic perpetrators of murder, oppression etc are much worse than Wilders, who protests, defends Western Democracy only.

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