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Wow the qualities of a prophet. The best example for all the human beings for all the times to come.
The only human being allah the pimp could find in this entire universe to transmit his message.The finla prophet.The lunatic.
Pedophile, rapist,liar, thief, murderer, the evilest scum bag mohammad.I am out of words to describe this filthiest creature and to think that he is the best example for all the moslems scum bags to follow! Cant take it any more

The links in the checklist isnt working, would be benefical for discussion and quick reference if they were clickable and directed to sources in hadith and quran.

Also Thanks for FFI, use this site daily and often for reference and research during discussion with muslims.

Now Now Now-- how dare you call Islam is evil despite the facts that it allows all it's followers to be Criminals in the name of holy Sunnah of pedo. MoHamMad ,while living in some Decent Democratic Country???

Ali Sina should be prosecuted by some Democratic Sariah court LOL the sooner the better LOL

And Hurrah's for Jerk off Zakir Naik for finding all kinds of futuristic science in Qu'rand the Islamic book of prostitution.

Halalpork looooooool. holy crime by satan allah as he said in quran 3:54, 'I AM THE GREATEST DECEIVER, LIAR, SCHEMER, PLANNER TO DO IT ALL.LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
PHARAOH WAS A MUSLIMS AND SO WAS MOSES LOOOOOOOOOL ONE HAD TO RUN AWAY FROM THE SUN GOD CALLED PHARAOH MUHAMMAD. OSIRIS MUHAMMAD IS EGYPTIAN. THIS IS SO FUNNY. CANT MUSLIMS READ, OH IT IS UNHOLY FOR THEM TO READ OR ASK QUESTIONS JUST BE DUMB TABARI 1:280.

In this modern and progressive world it is not easy to be a Muslm. So many difficult decisions to make:-

1. Should one behead or bomb infidels and fellow Muslims who have other views?
2. Should one marry only one woman or two or three or four?
3. Where can one buy sex slaves (right-hand possessions)?
4. When one passes gas during 5 times-daily bums-up time should one wash only one's bum or go through the whole cleansing wudoo all over again?
5. Should one marry a female baby whilst she is still a virgin or take a chance on her virginity and wait until she is 9 years old?
6. Should one live in an Islamic hellhole and starve or move to evil infidel lands to claim welfare Jizya and risk losing one's soul?

Muhammad and Allah forgot to tell Muslims everthing to do and any special fatwas cost so much money as moolas have many hungry mouths to feed . Why would they call Islam the religion of peace when it gives the mind and others no peace?

It is so much easier to be an infidel like me, to stop worrying and quit Islam for peace of mind as so many sensible people have done and are doing in ever-growing numbers.

Let's learn the truth together watch peace tv on www.peacetv.tv . May Allah guide the wrong doers on to the right path of Islam and Allah is the all knowing and powerful.

Now I can understand why Adolf Hitler had such great respect for Muhammad.

To MH

I read that debate between Nadir Ahmed & Ali Sina.Nadir did not give one "scientific" verse from the Quran.He keeps avoiding the real challenge.That debate went something like this...

Ali Sina
"Muhammad was a murderer,rapist & robber.Is such a man worthy of being God's prophet & divine messenger?"

Nadir Ahmed
"Yawn...who cares?Let's talk about the scientific evidence in the Quran."

I must admit that I always marvel at the strange & twisted logic of a muslim mind.Here's sme more logic in Islam...
Hadith Bukhari (80:753)
"The Prophet said,'The freed slaves belong to the people who have freed them.'"

LOL.

In all fairness, Biblical prophets also did some naughty things. Moses murdered someone, Abraham had sex with his wife's slave girl and produced Ishmael, Jonah was disobedient to God, and Jacob had two wives, one loved and one unloved and also children with two of their maids. In the New Testament, Saul turned Paul murdered many Christians before his conversion. (though he is an Apostle not Prophet). The Catholic Church was brutal in history with it's politics, killing people for heresy, and even in the modern day cover-ups of pedophile priests. The point is, you are going to find good and bad in the religions. Only Jesus was without blemish according to the Biblical text.

Religion is not the problem in and of itself, it is mankind that is the problem. Islam is in the forefront because so many people in the religion cannot seem to let go of outdated traditions from culture. I have studied Islam for awhile now and find some of the Prophets teachings to be similar to that of the Christianity. I know there are other Suras that seem to contradict later on and I find Sharia law horrifying, but the Old Testament shared some similar laws and Christians obviously do not stone people for adultery or abstain from eating pork in the present day. While it seems that Islam will never make it to the 21st century at times, I do personally know Muslims that are some of the nicest and caring people I've ever met. They take their religion seriously, but do not condemn others for not being Muslim. I have Christian friends that live in Muslim countries and love it. It is all a matter of the people and politics, not necessarily the religion. My hope is that with education and better economies, something can be done to stem the tide of fanaticism.

Dear Sarah

I also know many wonderful Muslim people around me including my own family. In fact my wife who is a very wonderful person, is a secular Muslim who has never opened the Qur'an and has no interest in it !! However, I left Islam some 30 years ago and do not hide this fact . In a recent survey of Muslims around the world, (some 1.4 Billion), it is found that 93% believe in peaceful existence with other peoples of the world, and 7% ( which comes to some 98 Million people ) believe that either every one in the world should accept Islam or be killed ( Notice that Islam imposes itself on everybody unlike any other religion ). The world should be run under the Sharia Laws of Qur'an. 98 Million people thinking this way is a frightening prospect. These are the folks who have said they will become martyrs in the cause of Islam , what the Qur'an and Muhammad taught and demanded them to do.

Please don't be fooled and confused by the niceness of your Muslim friends and the principals of the Qur'anic and Hadiths teachings. These are two different issues. We should show love to these good folks and inform them with kindness and wisdom of the evils of Islam. And Islam is the politics of some 56 countries out of 57 Islamic countries of the world. Turkey is the only country that it's constitution is not based on the Qur'anic Laws.

But as for the folks in the Old Testaments, I will have to write volumes to clarify the things you mentioned about Abraham, Moses, etc. and this is not the place for that discussion. These were very special people in God's sight. They were all repentant of their actions. You cannot compare Muhammad with these great Prophets. Muhammad assumed himself entitled to all the terrible acts he committed, and he cooked up Suras of the Qur'an to justify his atrocities and vindicate himself. His Allah became his accomplice. As for the Apostle Paul, he was only a man, full of sin till he met Christ. When he was a member of the Sanhedran, the political arm of the Jewish establishment, he was commissioned to arrest and get rid of the followers of Christ. But once he came face to face with the Risen Lord on the road to Damascus his life changed. He gave up his enormous power, wealth, family and all he had to follow Christ. He was arrested many times and jailed, persecuted and finally executed for his faith. He wrote more than half of the New Testament, and at every opportunity he called himself a wretched man for his past actions. He never hid his past but glorified God for God's Grace throughout his life. While we are enlightened by all the past prophets, as a Christian, I follow Christ as He is portrayed in the 4 Gospels.
Can you find a single act of Christ that was sinful ? Can a Muslim find one, even one action of Muhammad that would glorify God and one would wish to follow ?

Most Muslims are wonderful but all follow a disgraceful man and cult. You will do well to gently open the eyes of your dear Muslim friend to truth. If you get a chance browse through the " challenge " tab on this web site, read " Understanding Muhammad " by Ali Sina, and " Inside the Revolution " by Joel Rosenberg. There are other books around but these are must read to get a better picture of what we are dealing with.

Do you know that most people who die of cancer die because they deny that they may have cancer and refuse to see a doctor early enough while cancer is small and treatable ? The cancer of Islam may grow beyond control unless folks accept that it is a disease and need immediate recognition and treatment.

Thank you for the opportunity to write to you.

To Sarah and Parviz,

Well isn't is wonderful all the nice things you have to say about Islam.

Rot is coming out of your mouth. The people, millions of them, who have suffered some of the most brutal treatment on earth spit on your words.

May you walk in their shoes and learn something about compassion. Till then, no one wants to buy the garbage of your words.

To Parviz,

I was only demonstrating a point. I agree with you about the OT Prophets. I also agree with you that Muslims are blinded to the truth of their Prophet and it is causing me many days and nights of worry with one in particular. He wasn't too religious when we met and now is jumping in feet first. He teases me about believing in "three Gods" because he does not understand the Trinity, but has agreed to go to church with me because at this point, he is still open minded. I question him closely about what he learns and have thus far recognized that they are only teaching him the good parts. However, how do you tell a friend about their Prophet without causing offense? It is one thing to go on websites and completely another when they live in your building! Any advice is welcome.

To Plaintalk:

Not sure were your vehemence is coming from, but you would do well to look at yourself before casting a stone. I am well aware of the problems in this world but I do not jump on the "let's hate all muslims" bandwagon. They are victims too! That is discriminatory and plain wrong. Compassion encompasses all things...and you obviously are only compassionate when it suits you. That is not true compassion. The average Muslim living in an Islamic state has no choice but to comply or secretly convert or become an apostate. Do you not have compassion for these people?

Dear Sarah,
you are quite right, muslims are the biggests victims of Islam.
Consider all the fratricidal acts between Sunni and Shia - its almost never out of the news.
Consider the sort of political (I use the word loosely for some examples) regimes many of them live under.
Muslims deserve great compassion for what they suffer - though it needs to be understood that their suffering is largely the result of their adherance to the myth of Islam.
(What I mean by "myth" is that Islam encompasses a range of belief from hard-line fundamentalists to vague Deists.)

I would hope (perhaps somewhat vainly) that no-one here simply hates muslims. I certainly do not, though I have a strong antipathy towards traditional Islam itself - because it is inimical to everything I hold dear.

To Plain Talk:

You said

Rot is coming out of your mouth. The people, millions of them, who have suffered some of the most brutal treatment on earth spit on your words.

May you walk in their shoes and learn something about compassion. Till then, no one wants to buy the garbage of your words.

I say:

Why so angry dude? Sarah nor Parviz have not said anything to insult you. Were you bullied at school or have you been unfortunate enough to be born with a small penis?

Parviz St. Paul was a pharisee.

Wow great enlisting of qualities
I must admire u for doing so.
I don't think there is any deed that was undertaken by xxxxx prophet which was not listed here
This page should be forwarded to all fuckin muslims

Hi Sarah,

In response to your reply to my comments I must say that it is one thing for a Muslim to leave Islam and another for them to accept another faith. In fact 70% of the Iranians who have lived under the dictatorial Islamic theocracy for the past 30 years have said in a recent survey that they no longer believe or respect Islam. But very few of them have embraced other faiths. The reason is that the Muslims are taught from their childhood that of the religions which have " Books " i.e Jewish and Christians, their Holy Books have been corrupted. Also they say that Christians believe in 3 Gods. These are very common arguments the Muslims make with no theological knowledge what so ever. Both these statements are radically false, but Muhammad had to make this accusation otherwise by comparison to the Torah and the Bible there is nothing in Qur'an worth knowing. A muslim friend of mine told me that when he was in graduate school he decided to educate himself about Islam. He spent $1000 back in 1968 and bought a Qur'an and the best commentary of the time, in 24 volumes. After reading a couple of chapters he couldn't stomach so much nonsense and meaningless stuff so he sold the whole thing off for about $10 and that was the last time he ever thought of Islam.

Muslims think it is a terrible sin to read the Bible ( see the second book below ). But if they read the Gospels or books written about Jesus to learn about this Christ that they so much bad mouth they may fall in love with him !

2 books you may get for your friend about Jesus, assuming that he will look at them :

http://www.amazon.com/Jesus-I-Never-Knew/dp/031021923X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF...

http://www.amazon.com/Dared-Call-Him-Father-Miraculous/dp/0800793242/ref...

As for God being 3, the Bible never ever says such a thing. God is ONE. But God is very capable of manifesting ( Showing, Revealing ) Himself as whatever He chooses . While the word Trinity is not found in the Scriptures, it is very much implied in a number of places, and it means that God has manifested Himself in the New Testament times in 3 different types, as Father, then as what is called the Son ( to show us in practical and personal sense what God 's attributes are, Philippians 2:1-11 ) and as the Holy Spirit ( that is what God is , Spirit, but a Holy One, who is with us now ). Now , even a lot of Christians have difficulty grasping the Doctrine of Trinity in its totality, but we accept it by faith, as we accept that God IS by faith, one cannot prove or disprove God. We don't see God, but we accept it by faith. The very first verse of the book of Genesis says " In the beginning God...." So the world begins with God.

Now if you wish to study the Doctrine Of Trinity in depth, please check the following book, written by a brilliant doctor who was a heart specialist !

http://www.amazon.com/Great-Doctrines-Bible-Father-Spirit/dp/158134497X/...

and to clarify in a simplistic way the question my muslim friends kept bringing up, I wrote the following as part of a letter to my Muslim friends :

You all know more or less about my beliefs, that how 30 years ago I became a Christian, which did not happen hap hazardly but took 26 years of God working on me ! . Now some of you have brought up the issues like, are there 3 Gods or 1 without looking into it . Looking into the Qur'an and the Bible I like to share with you the following:
The following is an interesting comparison of verses from the Quran and the Bible about the question of "Oneness" of God.
Nowhere in the Bible can you find a mention that God is more than One. Yet, the Quran which was written about 800 years after Christ makes statements that the Christians say there are 3 Gods !

Verses from Quran.

"and say not, "Three". Desist, it is better for you; Allah is only one God; far be it from His glory that He should have a son; whatever is in the heavens and whatever is in the earth is His; and Allah is sufficient for a Protector." (4:171)
"Certainly they disbelieve who say: "Surely Allah is the third (Person) of the three"; and there is no god but One God,…. The Messiah, son of Maryam is but an apostle; apostles before him have indeed passed away; and his mother was a truthful woman, they both used to eat food. See how We make the signs clear to them, then behold how they are turned away." (5:73 – 75)

"Certainly they disbelieve who say: "Surely Allah – He is the Messiah, son of Maryam". Say: "Who then could control any thing as against Allah when He wished to destroy the Messiah, son of Maryam and his mother and all those on the earth?" And Allah’s is the kingdom of the heavens and the earth and what is between them; He creates what He pleases; and Allah has power over all things." (5:17)
The same is the case with the verse (coming after 5:75 quoted above) addressing the Christians:

"Say: "Do you worship besides Allah that which does not control for you any harm, or any profit?" And Allah – He is the Hearing, the Knowing." (5:76)

"The Messiah by no means disdain that he should be a servant of Allah, nor do the angels who are near to Him, and whoever disdains His worship and is proud, He will gather them all together to Himself." (4:172)
"And they say: "The Beneficent God has taken to Himself a son." Glory be to Him. Nay! They are honored servants; they do not precede Him in speech and (only) according to His commandment do they act. He knows what is before them and what is behind them, and they do not intercede except for him whom He approves, and for fear of Him they tremble." (21:26 – 28)
"Certainly they disbelieve who say: "Surely Allah, He is the Messiah, son of Maryam". And the Messiah said: "O Children of Israel! Worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord, surely whoever associates (others) with Allah, then Allah has forbidden to him the garden, and his abode is the fire; and there shall be no helpers for the unjust." (5:72)
"Whoever obeys the Messenger, he indeed obeys Allah." (4:80)

Verses from the Bible
Mark 10:18
"Why do you call me good?" Jesus answered. "No one is good—except God alone.
Mark 10:17-19 (in Context) Mark 10 (Whole Chapter)
Mark 12:29
"The most important one," answered Jesus, "is this: 'Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one.
Mark 12:28-30 (in Context) Mark 12 (Whole Chapter)
Mark 12:32
"Well said, teacher," the man replied. "You are right in saying that God is one and there is no other but him.
Mark 12:31-33 (in Context) Mark 12 (Whole Chapter)
John 5:44
How can you believe if you accept praise from one another, yet make no effort to obtain the praise that comes from the only God ?
John 5:43-45 (in Context) John 5 (Whole Chapter)
Romans 3:30
since there is only one God, who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through that same faith.
Romans 3:29-31 (in Context) Romans 3 (Whole Chapter)
1 Corinthians 8:4
So then, about eating food sacrificed to idols: We know that an idol is nothing at all in the world and that there is no God but one.
1 Corinthians 8:3-5 (in Context) 1 Corinthians 8 (Whole Chapter)
1 Corinthians 8:6
yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live;
Galatians 3:20
A mediator, however, does not represent just one party; but God is one.
Galatians 3:19-21 (in Context) Galatians 3 (Whole Chapter)
Ephesians 4:6
one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.
James 1:13
When tempted, no one should say, "God is tempting me." For God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does he tempt anyone;
James 1:12-14 (in Context) James 1 (Whole Chapter)
James 2:19
You believe that there is one God. Good!
1 Peter 4:11
If anyone speaks, he should do it as one speaking the very words of God. If anyone serves, he should do it with the strength God provides, so that in all things God may be praised
1 Peter 5:5
Young men, in the same way be submissive to those who are older. All of you, clothe yourselves with humility toward one another, because, "God opposes the proud but gives grace to the humble."
1 John 4:7
[ God's Love and Ours ] Dear friends, let us love one another, for love comes from God. Everyone who loves has been born of God and knows God.
1 John 4:6-8 (in Context) 1 John 4 (Whole Chapter)
1 John 4:11
Dear friends, since God so loved us, we also ought to love one another.
1 John 4:10-12 (in Context) 1 John 4 (Whole Chapter)
1 John 4:12
No one has ever seen God; but if we love one another, God lives in us and his love is made complete in us.
1 John 4:11-13 (in Context) 1 John 4 (Whole Chapter)
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"Truth is the "light" by which to find your way out of darkness. Turn it
on."

"Truth does not become more true if the whole world were to accept it;
nor does it become less true if the whole world were to reject it."

"Everything can be imitated, except truth; for imitated truth is no longer truth."

Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me".

(John 14:6)

And finally Sarah, remember that you can never in your own power make your friend believe in what you believe. It is only the spirit of God who draws men to Himself.

Islam says use the sword to convert apostates to ISlam !!

To Marie,

I mentioned that Apostle Paul was in the Sanhedrin, which was the supreme council & tribunal of the Jews. That makes him a Pharisee.

Like you say so and so is in the senate. you automatically mean that he is a senator !

Dear Sarah

Sorry if I have written a long reply to you earlier but I just thought of the following links which you may find of interest:

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Nonie Darwish is among many prominent Muslims from the Arabic and Iranian world who you can see on the YOUTUBE.

The following clips of her are interesting to see. You can Google to read more about her background.

Born in Egypt, Darwish is the daughter of an Egyptian Army lieutenant general, who, when assassinated by the Israeli army in 1956, was called a "shahid" by the Egyptian president Gamal Abdel Nasser,[2] although Darwish blames "the Middle Eastern Islamic culture and the propaganda of hatred taught to children from birth" for the assassination. In 1978, she moved with her husband to the United States, and converted to Christianity there. After September 11, 2001 she has written on Islam-related topics.[3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gF46oYxPXg&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZNIwiBRnSE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87tvvnoNSnQ&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCzapxPqW5A&feature=related

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonie_Darwish

Each Christian domination has its own version of the bible written in many different languages. Therefore, there is no original version of the bible that each of these Christian domination can agree on.

While the Quran written in classical Arabic is still the same as it had been at the Prophet’s time. The only errors are in its translations into today’s modern languages depending on the author’s understanding of classical Arabic.

Let’s say if the Christianity was the true religion to be followed why is there no original version of the bible available today? Surely God could have protected the original version of the bible to the end of time? Now if you study the Bible and the Hindu Holy scripture in detail you would naturally accept Islam is the true path. For specific references from these Holy Scriptures watch peace tv especially Dr. Zakir Naik programs available on satellite and on the web at http://www.peacetv.tv . May Allah guide us all on to the right path of Islam.

Awan Comment ID #27518:
That is a rather ill-informed comment.
The Old Testament (OT) still exists in the original Hebrew and Aramaic (would you be surprised to learn that the Jews still use the OT in its original languages?)
The New Testament (NT) still exists in the original Greek. (Would you be surprised to know that the Greek Orthodox Church still uses the NT in Greek?)
Thus contrary to your assertion the whole of the Bible is preserved in the original languages.

Whilst the major demoninations Roman Catholic/Protestant/Orthodox do disagree about the status of some individual OT books, there is a "core text" that is common to all. This is, in fact, the Protestant Bible.
Importantly, all sects agree about the NT which is the Christian portion.
Neither do the disputed books impinge on any doctrine or belief of the churches.

With regard to the Quran.
All Islamic authorities state that the Koran was not collected until AFTER the death of 'the prophet'.
These same authorities cannot decide if it was Abu Bakr, Ali or Uthman who FIRST collected it. They also state that Uthman's version was collected for fear of parts of the Koran being lost.
Uthman also ordered the destruction of all other 'korans' except his, thus eliminating much of the evidence of discrepancies. His action also begs the question as to why the other versions had to be destroyed if their were no discrepancies.
Several of the companions noted that Uthman's version had missing verses from various Sura.
There is the issue of the "stoning verses" which are omitted from the Uthmanic Koran. (This omission is tacitly admitted by Sharia which orders the punishment of stoning (Hadith) rather than flogging (Koran)).
(For references see posts in FFI under Quran).
Thus you have no true basis for saying "the Quran ... is still the same as it had been at the Prophet’s time".

Why on earth or heaven do you say "you would naturally accept Islam"?
What is natural to humanity about Islam?

In response to Awan and Jonc and the readers of this discussion the following study may be of interest.

The Origins of the Koran:
Classic Essays on Islam's Holy Book

Edited by Ibn Warraq; Prometheus Books, 1998
Summarised by Sharon Morad, Leeds

http://debate.org.uk/topics/books/origins-koran.html

With regards to the authenticity of the Bible, both the Old and the New Testament, I must say this, that while Qur'an contains 114 Suras, all much disconnected from one another, written in no particular order, the Bible contains about 1480 chapters, 66 different books , written by 44 prophets over a period of almost 1600 years, inspired, and woven together in such a way that one can not find any statement disputing or negating another. In fact one is not allowed to take any one individual verse by itself and draw a conclusion from it. The Bible says that " Let in the mouth of 2 or 3 witnesses all things be established " . Also " Here a little and there a little ". Meaning that the Bible verses must validate each other as written by different author, in different book, may be centuries apart . No doctrine can be based on one verse alone. And therefore, in such a massive book it would have been easy to find hundreds of contradictions, but one can not find errors or discrepancies.

For discussion on Qur'an please see the link above.

Thank you.

The following article compliments Awan and Jonc's discussion.

The Origins of the Koran:
Classic Essays on Islam's Holy Book

Edited by Ibn Warraq; Prometheus Books, 1998

http://debate.org.uk/topics/books/origins-koran.html

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Parviz Comment ID #27588
A word of caution: the "here a little, there a little" has been used by some in what is known as "knight jump exegesis".
This is the taking of a verse from this book, a verse from that and a verse from another, putting them together and saying "thus shows that the Bible says..."
The error here is the neglect of the context of the verses.

Where the Bible scores over the Koran is that all its verses (except for the "Wisdom" books and Psalms - which are rather different types fo material) are set in their context.

Dear Jonc,

Thank you for your word of caution. I was simply putting forth the concept of relating scripture to scripture if one wants to understand what a verse or a passage is all about. I know many people who read the Bible as if they were reading a novel and then complain that they did not get the meaning of what they read. In my years of study, almost 30 , I still get excited when I discover another meaning that I had never seen before, specially when it comes to the actions of Jesus, what he said and did, and the parables he told.

Anyway, to be more precise the verse I quoted comes from the great book of Isaiah chapter 28, verse 10 that in the Kings James translation reads : \ For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little \

May The Lord Bless you, always

Parviz,

Thank you Sir ! I don't know who you are but you are amazing. Very knowledgeable ! Great material. Please be as active as humanly possible. You are needed.

Thanks

Dear Observer,

I often write very spontaneously in response to what is posted on FFI. I am glad you find the comments worth reading. I recently wrote several responses on

http://www.faithfreedom.org/2009/10/16/let-the-west-know-islam/

My hope is that it may speak to some ones heart, and bring about a reason for contemplation.

Blessings.