Interview with Dove World Outreach Center - Telling the truth about Islam

Telling the truth about Islam is not considered to be politically correct.This can be viewed as racism.However,it is politically correct to lie about Islam & spread false rumours,for eg. Islam is a religion of peace & Muhammad was actually a good guy,he was just misunderstood.It was the Jews that made the Qur'an & Hadith look violent & they also added the historical & scientific errors to make Muhammad look like an idiot.
These are all perfectly acceptable lies & considered to be politically correct.

Muslims living in non-Islamic coutries (I think it's called Dar al Harb) constantly need our politicians to tell us how peaceful Islam is.But the truth is... It's the Muslims who need to be told that Islam is peace.Because they are starting to doubt Muhammad & the Qur'an.

So let's stop this PC crap & stop giving Islam our approval.
The Beast (Islam) is wounded,let's drive that stake further in it by spreading the truth.And very soon,believe it or not Islam will perish.

Hello Santiago,

I like your posts a lot, they give me comfort, as many other posts here often do. You earlier said that there never were so many websites in opposition to Islam and that every day a little is achieved to overcome it. Great! Thank you. I love your optimism and also believe in it, I only don’t know the time that it takes.

In my view I see a lot “unconditional appeasement” among my fellow Westerners. I see that like most people, they look myopically only nationally and not globally. And mostly also not in good historical perspective. And in the past this was OK, logical, we had our countries and they had theirs and we did not mix so much as now. Now we have massive ongoing immigration from Islamic and other countries in EACA; Europe-America-Canada-Australia. These immigrants can now easily maintain ties with their homelands. And also with the propaganda-media of these. They can travel a lot, and ever more people speak English and use the internet. Under these circumstances I like all of us to first look global, only then national and regional, in the 21st century. I believe many Muslims also look global and are most loyal to the Ummah, more than to the country they live in.

When we look global then we see so much unbalance between “Dar ul Islam” and “Dar ul Harb”, like religious minorities and apostates, the building of mosques and churches. And also we see bad treatment of women, oppression. And realizing or not realizing this unfair state of affairs, there are people who want to appease Muslims without demanding change of these and many other unjust situations and practices in Islamic countries & communities, not even gradual change. So "unconditional".

But I am so glad with FFI and its allies. Because FFI&allies are the “bad cops”, and it gives perspective in the sense that the Westerners & ex-Muslims now range from “bad cops” to “good cops”. And I believe that FFI&allies are a factor of ever growing already great influence and power. And under these circumstances I think that many Muslims will appreciate the “good cops” much more than they would without the existence of the “bad cops”. Hence they will also be more likely to make compromises, to confront fellow-Muslims. (Although this is not happening yet.)

Also I think they no longer can get away with Islamic propaganda, which extols true and untrue bright sides of Islam and ignores or denies all true (and maybe untrue, OK) downsides of Islam, both in scriptures and in detrimental behavior by self-confessed Muslims in past and present.

But the main point is that we of FFI & Allies can argue that because of ongoing, unjust, miserable situations and actions in the Muslim World, detrimental for the rest of the world, FFI & allies have a great and just motivation to exist. To observe/ monitor, report, analyse and if appropriate judge, condemn; Islamic scriptures, laws + behavior of self-confessed Muslims. Until either; Muslims start putting their Islamic house (Dar ul Islam) in order or; Muslims leave Islam in large numbers. And THEN we would not like nothing more than APPEASE, but this must be Conditional.

You guys, it is like the blind leading the blind. How sad...

I read your opening statement before the "read more" hyperlink, and the first thought I had was:
Isn't that true about all religions?

Islam is such a big deal today because of conspiracy, "terrorism", and past crusaides; but what of other religious minorities, and where they are minorities. For instance, in most places today Hinduism is considerd a very peaceful religion, but in India, the Christians (who are very peaceful THERE) are punished and pushed into the minority. In America, however, with a majority of Christians, they run the political sc ene and most non-Christian Americans would think of them as far less than peaceful for trying to disrupt their personal lives. Pagans, in this political setting, are a minority that is rising. As a pagan, myself, I can attest to how peaceful they are and all of the hopes I have for my religion, but I admit that I fear if it will ever become a majority that we will become the same way that other religious majorities have become. My only hope is that people will stop seeing it as "appeasement" and will learn tolerance, that it takes a healthy and balanced mix of religions in order to ever find a way to moniter peaceful interaction between our societies and to give room for average people to study philosophy and psychology/sociology by living it, for the benefit of each member in a society for the majority to interact in a tolerant and eager-to-learn-from-eachother way.

I've been called a bigot, racist, b*tch, whore, and an adulteress who according to the Bible should be stoned to death, but this will not stop me from criticizing Islam.

KRIS

You're deluded if you think that it's true about all religions.I left Christianity about 10 years ago & neither of my friends,family & country men tried to kill me.Neither did the "Christian" police try to arrest me for blasphemy when I criticized the Bible & Church.It's just not a big deal.

By the way,there's no conspiracy theories against Islam on this site,except facts that we quote from the Quran,Hadith & Sirat.

Oh,and Demsci,I appreciate your comment.

Kris:
there is certainly a grain of truth in your post.
In the history of many religions, they started out as oppressed minorities, gained a following and (in some cases at least) eventually gained power.
What then happened was that religious and secular "power" conflated and the persecuted became the persecutor.
This, btw, is a not uncommon thing psychologically and since religions and (eg) close-knit racial groups have a "group psychology" that is trans-generational they have long memories and so even events hundreds of years ago can be triggers for persecution.
In the case of most such groups however, such persection is either against or else not part of their "core identity" so eventually this phase is outgrown as the core identity re-asserts itself.

What is particularly dangerous is a group identity that is forged through the perpetration of persecution on its neighbours.
In the first place, the persecuting attitude is likely to form part of its core identity and, as such, will be passed on throughout the generations.
Since it is necessary to de-humanise the opponent to make violence towards him/her pallettable the group will think of itself as superior to those around it and develop a "them and us" attitude to their neighbours.
If such a group gains power (over a wider group or society) it is likely to continue to persecute non-conformists in varying degrees both minor and gross; the former when it feels most secure (read superior), the latter if it feels that its security is under some sort of threat.
Third, if the group starts to see itself as having less "success" (however it measures this) than its neighbours this will clash with the innate sense of superiority and a feeling of "humiliation" will occur. In turn this can lead to further anger and bitterness towards the "other" (who are considered to be the authors of the humiliation).
In order to compensate for this and satisfy the group's need to feel superior they will then attempt to cow and intimidate their more successful neighbours, force them into the group, destroy or steal the "trappings" of that success etc.

This sort of pattern can be seen in all sorts of groups from the individual with "attitude", through gangs and up to nation states.

(PS the "recaptcha" (TM) for this was "committee brawled" - an appropriate coincidence!)

Where in America do you see Christians killing, persecuting, and raping nonbelievers? Where in America do you see Christians denying educational opportunities and employment to nonbelievers? Where in America do you see Christians burning down places of worship for nonbelievers? Where in America do you see Christians denying nonbelievers the right to build and repair places of worship. Where in America do you see Christians enslaving nonbelievers and creating laws sanctioning the mistreatment of nonbelievers?

Anyone who thinks all religious are out to persecute people are deluded. Sure there are cases where the majority harassing religious minorities. In some of these cases politics are involved. But the rest of these cases it has to do with the combination of state and religion with one religion as head of the state.

Dear "Marie" – it is regrettable that you are as yet blind for you cannot see that 'criticism' of others is a 'sinful' deed, and it is ONLY perpetrated and perpetuated by the 'blind' who themselves are neither true followers of 'Christ' nor of True Islam.

True 'Christians' there are NONE, those true to allegiance to Allah's "Bow in obedience to my command" there are NONE, for everyone today of every 'race' or named 'religion' openly condone, support, and fund governing institutions that use rules backed by force to 'enslave' everyone, and their taxes paid are used to interfere, invade, control, subjugate, criticise, condemn, judge, punish and destroy. So 'dear' lady, is it true what others say about you?

There are many 'named' religions of MEN that are misleading humanity and turning man against man, for there are in fact only TWO religious ideological codes of conduct beliefs/policies/faiths/doctrines. These are the ideological 'policies' available to be followed:

The ONE is the TRUE religion.
The 'ideal' being the belief in:
Peace, compassion, kindness, truthfulness, mercy, respect, forgiveness, freedom & creativity using LOVE. (benign)

Thus the aspirant, pilgrim or 'follower' remains loyal in being an absolute pacifist in their interaction with others at all times.

The other is the FALSE religion.
The 'ideal' being the belief in the justification for:
War, cruelty, control, deception, disrespect, vengeance, torture, killing & destruction using FORCE. (malignant)

Thus the 'follower' is thus an aggressor that 'criticises' terrorises and injures others when they feel 'justified' to so do. People of ALL races and named 'creeds' or 'religions' need to know that the 'key' to Salvation is 'simply' to obey and remain in absolute conformity at all times and in all situations to:

The Primary TRUTHFUL and RULING Command of Allah/God that stipulates:
"Go your way in peace and love one another and be merciful, compassionate and forgiving."

You have been spiritually 'baptised' when the above IDEAL 'policy' has been given unto you and you have made a personal choice to BEfaithful and loyal to its code of conduct policy at all times and in all situations, especially when faced by aggression.

Let all 'sinners' now turn their face to THE CREATOR, be He or She named Allah, Mungu, God or 'whatever,' and let us bow in subservience to the love & forgive & go in peace & be merciful etc., COMMAND, before 'all hell' breaks loose as the 'thoughts' of the serpent operate THEIR DESTRUCTION through the mind and hands and voices of the 'NON-believers in PEACE & Love *& mercy & forgiveness.'

Imam Al-Mahdi
http://www.dar-es-salaam.org

i feel sorry 4r all nonbelievers,,,.,u criticise islam,,u r killing us in thousands,,in pakistan,,afghanistan,iraq,,now willin 2 do da same in iran,,,,well u may b happy,,but listen,instead of being angry i feel sorry,,,coz,,islam still says,,,ask ur enemy if they want,,peace 1st...then make them understand..n after that they dont listen,,thn if they attack u,,,u retaliate ..if they r defeated,,,dont kill them..if they want peace,,go n keep them in a safe place..where no 1 else can hurt them,,look read da quran 1st..read ur bible then,,thn compare.,.,dont listen 2 heresay,,pls,,life is once n da chance is once..i want evry1 2 b in heaven..pls,,dont just kill each other harm each other..but b brothers n sisters still lets talk,,lets disagree..lets try n understand each other....blood is not the way...love is da way...if i m bleeding,,ill suffer..but if u bleed dont u feel da pain,,we r human beings,,we should never oppress each other..respect each other..lets b peaceful,,intelligent,n lets b honest...force is not the way...4rgiveness n being merciful is da way....plsss.. i urge all muslims n non muslims,,,pls read ur scriptures,,no where in either religion is stated kill da men of other religion,,,pls.....dont b enemies..lets b frnds...love is da way......only it...love wins after all...love is love..we all know dat...coz,,evry 1 of us is smtimes in love ..n know..what love is...plsss...plsss...plsss.....plssss....i love evry1...i want all of us 2 b happyy...plss....