If there is hope it lies with the women and children
Submitted by Denis Schulz on Thu, 02/26/2009 - 07:29
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In 1984 Winston Smith said if there is hope it lies with the proles. In Islam if there is hope it lies with the women and the children. Muslim men have had 1,400 years to improve on their situation and have failed miserably. They are not to be trusted. From Osama bin Ladin and Muqtada al-Sadr to Chaplain James Yee at Guantanamo Bay and Asan Akbar at Camp Pennsylvania to the Muslim FBI agents that cheered 9/11 and then stole FBI files they cannot be trusted. Their record even without bin Ladin and al-Sadr is dismal at best. Their commitment is to Allah and the Qur’an, to the God that gave them possession of all of the women of this earth and the promise of 72 virgins in the hereafter, to the God that has made them what they are—sexist…chauvinist…pigs.
It is a hard phrase, a terrible phrase; a 20th Century phrase tacked onto a 7th Century culture. If there is hope in Islam it does not lie with Muslim men.
The fate of Aqsa Parvez, the deaths of Sara and Amina Said, the thousands of honor killings spread across Islam like Salmonella on the floor of the Devil’s kitchen, make it next to impossible to accept the words of Tariq Ramadan and Ibrahim Hooper and John Esposito as anything but the sheerest of nonsense and any charge ever made against men by Susan Faludi and Betty Freidan and Germaine Greer as believable.
The recent beheading of Aasiya Z. Hassan by her husband Muzzammil Hassan is a case in point. Mr. Hassan, a moderate Muslim, had recently launched a Muslim TV channel to counter what he considered the violent image of Muslims presented by the mainstream media. Cheers to Mr. Hassan. Islam was coming of age. But then Hassan murdered his wife in a slaying that was as surprising as it was brutal but was nonetheless in keeping with Islam’s sexist chauvinist roots.
Apologists insist the slaying had nothing to do with religion; the couple had been having marital problems. Archie Bunker had marital problems; William Jefferson Clinton had marital problems. So did Robert E. Lee and Jefferson Davis; they worked them out.
Islam can be likened to one vast slave plantation. One half of the plantation is composed of slaves, the other half of overseers. The ratio of slaves to overseers is completely out of whack. One slave is never enough. Andrew Johnson said he was opposed to slavery because everyone couldn’t have slaves. There were not enough of them to go around. That is the catch.
A master with many slaves can be lenient, ignore transgressions, encourage familiarities but if a master has only one slave and is judged by how well he keeps control of his lone chattel then servitude can not only be worse than rigorous it can be a nightmare. The one thing a master in a sexist chauvinist culture cannot tolerate is to be shown up or made to look the fool by his slave, his wife—or, by extension, a sister, a daughter, an in-law; an aunt. (Preston Brooks saved face for his family by beating Charles Sumner over the head with a cane for insulting his Uncle but Brooks would have quailed at raising a hand against a woman)
In Islam women are inferior to men. It is a sexist chauvinist culture.
“Treat women well for they are like domestic animals…All women of this world menstruate and are stupid…Preserve their chastity except with their wives and the slave girls they possess—for which there is no blame…Believers, truly, among your wives and your children there are enemies for you: so beware of them…In hell I saw women hanging by their breasts. They had fathered bastards.”
In Islam women father bastards, men are free of guilt.
Muslim: B1N142 “’O womenfolk, you should ask for forgiveness for I saw you in bulk amongst the dwellers of Hell:’ A wise lady said: Why is it, Allah’s Apostle, that women comprise the bulk of the inhabitants of Hell? The Prophet observed: ‘You curse too much and are ungrateful to your spouse. You lack common sense, fail in religion and rob the wisdom of the wise.’ Upon this the woman remarked: What is wrong with our common sense? The Prophet replied, ‘Your lack of common sense can be determined from the fact that the evidence of two women is equal to one man. That is a proof.’”
Ungrateful to your spouse…fail in religion…your lack of common sense…ask for forgiveness…is it any wonder that Islam is the religion of the sexist chauvinist pig?
If there is hope in Islam it lies with the women and children. It lies with Ayaan Hirsi Ali, with Wafa Sultan, with Zainah Anwar; it does not lie with Ingrid Mattson or Audrey Shabbas or with the Hanadi Jaradats. Unfortunately, given the numbing silence of the slave pen and the economic strictures of a closed society, the Mattsons and the Shabbass’—Islam’s Aunt Thomasinas—outnumber the Ali’s and Sultan’s.
In the end it will be left to the children to undo the horrors of Islam and that is why the Taliban has been fighting tooth and nail to destroy the nascent educational systems taking root in Afghanistan and Pakistan. With the hate-filled Madrassa schools performing to expectations, producing class after class of recruits for the Taliban and al-Qaeda, it has become a war against girls.
Last month Taliban militants in Pakistan’s Swat Valley bombed five girl’s schools. Five! In November 2008, Taliban thugs squirted acid from water bottles on groups of students and teachers walking to a girl’s school in Kandahar City. In May 2008, Taliban gunmen broke into the Miyan Abdul Hakim girl’s school in Kandahar and burned exercise books, textbooks, floor mats and desks. Attacks are frequent; threats are continuous; students, teachers and caretakers are terrorized.
But the girls persist; they are not taking it lying down, they fight back in the only way they know how. Tuba Sahaab is an 11-year-old Pakistani girl. She lives on the outskirts of Islamabad. She is a poet, has had a book published and appears regularly on the media. She was interviewed by CNN.
“If they kill me, do not worry,” she said. “I want everyone in Pakistan to be equal. I want to give peace to my nation. I will fight for it.”
(How remote in time and space from the nonsense coming from the carefully scripted 11-year-olds presented to the American public by a left wing media that still blames Ulysses S. Grant for the Peloponnesian War)
Tuba has faith in Barack Obama. “I want to go to the White House and show him my poems, show him what is happening and ask him to come to Pakistan and control it because he is a super power.”
Obviously, it will not be that easy. Tuba still has a lot to learn, not as much as Rosie O’Donnell or Dennis Kucinich, but enough to make it a heart wrenching and soul-searing experience.
Meanwhile, in Wahhabi run schools throughout the Arab countries and in the Western world, Muslim children are being taught to hate the West. Islamic schools in the UK have been promoting bans on Harry Potter books and movies, cricket, chess and Western music.
The Muslim Santa Anna has crossed the Rio Grande. Jim Bowie and Davy Crockett are hunkering down for a last stand. One can only hope Tuba is not the last person to make it into the Alamo.
The image of the typical
The image of the typical Muslim woman wearing the veil and forced to stay home and forbidden to drive is all too common in most peoples’ thoughts. Although some Muslim countries may have laws that oppress women, this should not be seen as coming from Islam. Many of these countries do not rule by any kind of Shari'ah (Islamic law) and introduce their own cultural standpoints on the issue of gender equity.
Islam on the other hand gives men and women different roles and equity between the two is laid down in the Qur’an and the example of the Prophet (peace be upon him). Islam sees a woman, whether single or married, as an individual in her own right, with the right to own and dispose of her property and earnings. A marriage gift is given by the groom to the bride for her own personal use, and she keeps her own family name rather than taking her husband's. Both men and women are expected to dress in a way which is modest and dignified. The Messenger of God (peace be upon him) said: "The most perfect in faith amongst believers is he who is best in manner and kindest to his wife."
Violence of any kind towards women and forcing them against their will for anything is not allowed (4:19). A Muslim marriage is a simple, legal agreement in which either partner is free to include conditions.
Marriage customs thus vary widely from country to country. Divorce is not common, although it is acceptable as a last resort. According to Islam, a Muslim girl cannot be forced to marry against her will: her parents simply suggest young men they think may be suitable.
My dear amim,honestly r u
My dear amim,honestly r u daydreaming.please take up a job in saudi arabia experience your perfect religion.About women driving in saudi arabia.the main reason why women are not allowed to drive is that they become independent which could lead to affairs.One of the saudi lady replied in the letters to the editor of arab news--"-what prevents me from doing it with the driver".thats the answer for you.You muslims don't trust their wives,then how can you trust anybody.Why you guys r so insecure.!!
If you're a muslim, here's
If you're a muslim, here's how to win any argument:
1. Accuse accuse the person of lying and ignorance. Tell the person to read "authentic" Muslim websites and texts. Say that critics of Islam are "so-called" experts. Say that once a person "learns" about the "real" Islam, he/she will understand how beautiful and peaceful it is.
2. Accuse the person of racism or islamophobia (This is one of the best tactics!). Say they are "filled with hate" (this works really well with Liberals!).
Restrict your arguments to a specific subject (How Muslims are persecuted and misunderstood). Generalize a lot. Never suggest that a person examine both sides of the issue (that is, compare arguments from anti-Islamic sites with those from Muslims experts). Never refer to the hate and violence Muslims do. Say that the actions of Muslims have nothing to do with Islam.
3. Say that the problem is that Muslims today are not practicing the "Original Islam" of Mohammed and the glorious era of the 'Four Righteous Caliphs' that followed him (Do not mention the hate and violence that Mohammad preached and practiced and do not mention that 3 out of the 4 so-called Righteous Caliphs were murdered by Muslims in a fifty year orgy of conquest, greed, violence and rivalry that ended at battle of Kerbala - called the Ashura - with Muslims fighting Muslims and the heads of Mohammad's grandson and even infant great-grandson and 70 others being carried in bags as trophies by the victorious Muslim army). Tell them that Islam is really peaceful!
4. Say that any verse from the Koran that portrays Islam negatively is "out of context".
Tell them it doesn't really mean what it says. Also, insist that any tradition that says that Mohammad did very bad things is "weak" or forged, or that it has no isnad (chain of narration) even if it has a long isnad and Muslims constantly quote from this same source.
5. Tell people that any 'nice' or 'peaceful' (or earlier) verse in the Koran is valid for everywhere and all time. Any 'kill' and 'hate' verse has limited application and can only be understood by an expert or in relation to another verse 56 pages away.
6. Accuse Christianity and other religions as being "just as bad" (mention the Crusades). Say that Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world. Say that Islam is the fastest growing religion on Mars too, and the rest of the universe.
7. Claim that Muslims are injustly persecuted (never mention 1200 years of jihad against infidels, the treatment of non-Muslims in Islamic societies or current events). Mention the classical era when Islamic societies led the world in science, medicine and philosophy (Do not mention this was 700 years ago and that much of it was based upon ancient Greek works or influenced by the hated 'Jewws' living in those countries)
8. Explain that jihad means "inner struggle" (like a diet plan or giving up smoking!) and not "holy war". Tell them that Islam says fighting can only be in self-defense. If they ask about all those raids, explain that Mohammad went on 26 self-defense expeditions, captured a lot of self-defense loot and self-defense slaves and killed a lot of people in self-defence in the early morning and night self-defense attacks. He even let his men rape women in self-defense at Banu-Mustaliq. If they question that last statement, suggest that maybe the women accused Mohammad's men of being 'gay' and they had to prove themselves. (Note: It may be wise to work more on this answer!)
9. Blame all current problems in Islamic societies on (choose one or more...) the Jews, Hindus,Christians,Jews again, the Crusades, the USA, Atheism, Israel, Colonialism, Hollywood, Bush, the Pope, Vatican, Capitalism, racism, poverty, sexuality, discrimination, translations, the media, the Neocons, Right-wing radio talk shows, Communism, the Romans, women, Zionists, culture, Imperialism, islamophobes, "people filled with hate", stereotypes, facism, the Cold War, the War on Terror, ignorance, education, lack of education, misguided education, despair, lack of hope, the suffering of the Palestinian people, bad hair, cartoons, teddy bears and Bugs Bunny. Stress that Muslims are innocent victims of circumstances, always.
10. If the discussion is about women, say that Islam "protects and honors" women. Say that "Islam has given women all her rights". Point out the immorality in Western culture. Say that most of the people that convert to Islam are women. (Never talk about what the Quran and hadith say about women, except for 4 specific verses and do not mention that Mohammad himself said women are 'deficient in intelligence' and beat his wife). If they talk about the status of Muslim women everywhere, say that it is because Muslims do not follow Islam. Tell them it is "cultural".
11. Say that a small minority of extremists have hijacked Islam, and they are not 'real' Muslims. Explain that just because a person says the shahada (profession of faith), observes the 5 pillars of Islam, goes to the mosque every Friday, has memorized half of the Quran, wears a beard, and is named 'Mohammud' - this does not mean that he is a 'real' Muslim. (Suggest that the terrorist, who knows, may really be a Scientologist, a Presbyterian,or a Rotarian pretending to be a Muslim). Oh yes, if Muslims do hate and violence, say that they are being 'used' and 'manipulated' by (see list in #9 of candidates to blame for manipulating innocent Muslims).
12. If the person brings up issues relating to words and actions of Mohammad, say that you are offended. Say that we should not apply contemporary standards of morality and conduct to the teachings of the 'eternal' Quran and the actions of Islam's prophet. Tell them "everybody" did "it" back then. Say that Mohammad was "a mercy for all mankind". If he/she continues to ask about those deeds, make a few threats. Another possible idea is to ask the person to draw a picture of Mohammad on an old piece of paper, then say you are offended and attack the vile kafir infidel!
13. Say that it (whatever) is because they (whoever) don't understand the original message in Arabic. Tell them you can't understand the real meaning of Islam and the Quran unless you speak Arabic. Another good idea is to use a lot of cute Arabic words to confuse the person. It also makes the Muslim seem smarter and/or an expert on Islam.
14. Quote the verse "who kills a single person, it is as if he killed all of mankind" to prove how peaceful Islam really is (Do not mention that the phrase is incomplete and you have omitted the first five words).
15. Say that any problems in the Muslim world are because the US, Europe and the West support brutal, corrupt Arab regimes (Do not mention that all regimes in Muslim Middle East are undemocractic, brutal and corrupt). Say that Muslims are being used (or exploited or deceived) by the evil colonialists and/or imperialists. This is a good time to bring up Uncle Benny and say he was created in a CIA lab and so the so-called radical Islamists are Americas' fault (Use the name "Bin Laden" which is what infidels call him).
16. Another good idea is to blame anything and everything on the "Enemies of Islam". Take the Ashura, for example. When Hussain, the grandson of Mohammad was killed on the battle field, Muslim site after site says that he was martyred while fighting the "Enemies of Islam" instead of mentioning that it was actually a rival Muslim army and a battle for power and treasure. This event was the climax and start of the great Sunni-Shiite feud and one of the reasons why these two Muslim groups are still killing each other 1350 years later. Even so both sides blame it on the "Enemies of Islam".
17. When something bad happens say it is a "conspiracy" against Islam. For example, when an old British teacher working in Sudan lets her school children name a teddy bear "Mohammed" the Sudanese Imams immediately called for her death and said it was all part of a Western conspiracy against Islam. As found on Muslim sites, Palestinian children are dying of poisoning because the "yahood" (Jews) have a conspired to sell clothing with rat poison infused into the dye. It is a well-known fact that infidels stay up all night, every night, just plotting against Islam. Oh yes, when using the word "conspiracy" also include the words "Zionist" or "Jewish" to emphasize the cunning and evil nature of the plot.
18. Say that Western societies are not doing enough to adapt to Muslims and to accomodate their customs and beliefs. Tell them that if Non-Muslims are really "tolerant" then will recognize the unique cultural issues of Muslims and respect their customs even if these are contrary to the host countries traditions and laws. Explain that a true multicultural society must recognize the right of Muslims to have their own laws (sharia) and control of their own lives and even of the people and neighborhoods they live in. Tell them that things like female genital mutilation, honor killings and forced marriages are expressions of this cultural heritage and are of no concern to infidels. This is necessary, as the Archbishop of Canterbury says, because Muslims often do not feel "comfortable" with the laws of the country they live in.
19. Blame it on the weather. I mean 'good' weather. The Reuters news agency tells us, regarding the February 2008 "Youth" riots in Denmark, that "Police could give no reason (for the riots), but said that unusually mild weather and the closure of schools for a winter break might have contributed.
20. Once again, remember that Muslims "are the best of people" and Mohammad is a "Mercy for all mankind". Keep thinking this. Never doubt; never question. If there is an issue it must be understood in light of these two sacred and eternal truths. Don't let facts get in the way of feelings. If something appears to be wrong or bad, it can only be a work of evil infidels or a misunderstanding. There must be an explanation even if it is weird, really weird. The problem cannot be Islam's fault so it must be the work of (insert name of evil non-Muslim group here). Explain that the rules of conduct that Muslims demand for others do not apply to Islam, because it is "special".
21. If all else fails, assume a zombie-like attitude and start saying the Qanoot-e-Naazilah prayer in a low, intense voice (in Arabic!). Hiss a little between lines. Let the infidel know you a more than just a little crazy. If you have a knife take it out and start testing the blade with your thumb. Roll your eyes, foam at the mouth (twitching is good, too!). Stand up suddenly and start yelling "Allah Akhbar". Do this ten times as loud as possible. You have won the argument! Note that all of the above explanations -- except the last two points -- are based upon actual answers and justifications from Muslim sites and web commentaries.
Bliss You have correctly
Bliss
You have correctly written down the steps to kill the human civilization.
The Bible uses Rape as a
The Bible uses Rape as a Weapon
Indeed all sane human beings find the act of rape a reprehensible and heinous crime, not only do we find the act as sick, we also find it more disgusting when rape is used as a weapon, a form of punishment against the victim, indeed this may even be more disgusting than a rape for the sake of rape!
If you are a Christian, and you are reading this article then I put forward two questions for you:
-Is rape wrong?
-Is using rape as a weapon and punishment wrong?
I truly believe that the majority of you will say yes, and this brings me to my point, what if I was to tell you that these very things are in the Bible? And before you think that oh bad men raped and the Bible recorded it etc etc, I am not talking about that, I am talking about your supposed holy God who sanctioned rape as a weapon and punishment to certain women!
Here are the following passages:
Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee. For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city. (Zechariah 14:1-2)
The Lord will enter into judgment with the ancients of his people, and the princes thereof: for ye have eaten up the vineyard; the spoil of the poor [is] in your houses. What mean ye [that] ye beat my people to pieces, and grind the faces of the poor ? saith the Lord GOD of hosts. Moreover the Lord saith, Because the daughters of Zion are haughty, and walk with stretched forth necks and wanton eyes, walking and mincing as they go, and making a tinkling with their feet: Therefore the Lord will smite with a scab the crown of the head of the daughters of Zion, and the Lord will discover their secret parts In that day the Lord will take away the bravery of [their] tinkling ornaments [about their feet], and [their] cauls, and [their] round tires like the moon, The chains, and the bracelets, and the mufflers, The bonnets, and the ornaments of the legs, and the headbands, and the tablets, and the earrings, The rings, and nose jewels, The changeable suits of apparel, and the mantles, and the wimples, and the crisping pins, The glasses, and the fine linen, and the hoods, and the vails. And it shall come to pass, [that] instead of sweet smell there shall be stink; and instead of a girdle a rent; and instead of well set hair baldness; and instead of a stomacher a girding of sackcloth; [and] burning instead of beauty. (Isaiah 3:14-24)
So here we have two passages where the God of the Bible is directly involved in getting women raped as a form of punishment! Now honestly, you the Christian behind the screen, do you support such filth? If you do, then I'm afraid you seriously need help, and should even go under watch by the police, because only insane people can stand by and support rape being used as a weapon! It is no good if the Christian says oh well yes this is harsh and sad bla bla bla, no, either Christians CONDEMN and APOLOGIZE and FORSAKE such filth, or you are a supporter of rape plain and simple, you don't have it two ways.
AMIm good to have you back?
AMIm good to have you back? We were getting wooried about your well being and safety.
Amim has learnt that his
Amim has learnt that his Prophet was a pedophile and also married his own daughter-in-law. I heard that he has stopped raising his ass towards the sky. He is doing this because an Arab asked for the hand of his 9 yr old sister. Amim suddenly realised what his Prophet did to 9 yr old Aisha. He went into silence thereafter.
Oh! Rationalist don't be so
Oh! Rationalist don't be so hard on Amim. Poor fellow is still reeling under the pressure of following a paedophile. Soon we will be seeing a new reformed AMIM, one who does not talk crap every time he opens his mouth
sister rationalista and
sister rationalista and ibrahima,
Oil your own machine, sisters! Otherwise you will be an easy prey of some smart Muslim men! lol We are aware of the fact that you are having a very hard time to justify your greatest sex-maniac god who used to possess more than 16,000 wives and young cowherd girls. WOW! Do you know which god I am talking about? This is a quiz for you for today. I will be right back with another quiz. Until then .... bye sisters.
Hmmm.. lemme guess AMIN, the
Hmmm.. lemme guess AMIN, the name of the god is Allah, whom we also know by the name of allah the pig, the moon god of the pagan arabs. his other names are hubal, belzebub, satan, shaitan, etc.
So don't worry Amina, we can understand that being the by product of pare, your mental faculties are totally drained. Add to that the fact that you are a muhammadan Lesbian, who cannot satiate her desires and hence comes to the FFI forum to release her poison on us.
Don't you think that you should join a gay organisation like Al Fatiha, they can really help you. Even though we don't have anything against gays and lesbians, but this is not the right place for you Amina, the Gem of Heera Mandi.
. AMIM Says: ( read amœba
. AMIM Says: ( read amœba says);
""According to Islam, a Muslim girl cannot be forced to marry against her will: her parents simply suggest young men they think may be suitable.""
Hi "amœba "; Me and my friends are looking for just such kind of Muslimahs to get married to, can you tell us where to find such tilling machines??
HalalCow786, Are you a
HalalCow786,
Are you a lesbian or a trans?
What is a moderate Muslim?
What is a moderate Muslim?
a radical Muslim?
an insane Muslim?
#5 Rape is fornication and
#5
Rape is fornication and adultery.
Bible said if the wife is no agreeable to sex leave her alone until she wants it.
Sex with slaves is fornication or adultery. Mjuhammad had sex with his wife Sawda slave, Mary, got caught asnd had a convenient revelation. O Allah, please grant me the concession to have sex with this Egyptian slave and it not be adultery. O I forgot, can I lie also.
AMIM aka amina bai
AMIM aka amina bai Says:
HalalCow786,
Are you a lesbian or a trans?
Amina bai, how's buisness? Why do you hate other people so much Amina bai, I mean you a lesbian committed to the world's oldest profession, is saying this. Cmmon Amina have some shame. By the way how is your mother, no not your father's 15 th wife, your genetical mother who was suffered sexual abuse as a child at the hands of your father?
I was so sorry to know about you Amina, I ll send some one soon to help you out of Heera Mandi to some nice Karachi suburb.
another joke of the year by
another joke of the year by Amina bai
Oil your own machine, sisters! Otherwise you will be an easy prey of some smart Muslim men!
What do you mean by smart muslim men. Had they been smart they would have left islam long back.. amina bai
(I can't call you sister cos I don't relish the idea of calling someone following the profession of the flesh as my sister)
Bliss I would then tell and
Bliss
I would then tell and show them what Jesus said Xtians are to do and what Muhammad did and ask them to choose for themselves:
a beheading or a shot in the arm
4 wives and sex slaves
1 wife and no slaves
Drink camel piss and milk
Or medicine frominfidels
Allah forgives gay men but
Allah forgives gay men but gay women are to die Sura 4:14,15
Allah aka Muhammad said the
Allah aka Muhammad said the man on top get the most lashes and the man receiving the penis gets less.
Tuba is indeed the new
Tuba is indeed the new conscience in the world of poetry...she is as much important as the Peruvian Melissa Patoni...With her sensitivity and resilience,I am sure,she can teach the world a lesson...Her poetry should be distributed free in Afganisthan and other nations where religious dogmatism outscores humanitarian values...